CF 1.2 is out!

[Cert]

Just logged into Eruware for the heck of it and Viola! It's out!

[p1t]

alright....!! :)

[ayasin]

DAMN!! You guys are FAST!! I just sent the official press release to ClieSource at news at ClieSource.com. The press release has lots of detials that I won't reproduce here. Also former and current beta testers have been added to the database so they can log in and get the updates as well.

[Cert]

Just obvious indication of how in-demand you are!

[Alistar]

Dual MS mode works great.
Although I notice that if I don't have an MS in as well, the audiplayer and movieplayer don't see anything.

[KongK]

Whoosh! Got it. Thanks Cert :)

[ayasin]

Originally posted by Alistar
Dual MS mode works great.
Although I notice that if I don't have an MS in as well, the audiplayer and movieplayer don't see anything.

Movie player should still see the movies, even without the MS inserted.

[somas1]

Originally posted by Alistar
Dual MS mode works great.
Although I notice that if I don't have an MS in as well, the audiplayer and movieplayer don't see anything. audioplayer sees the mp3s on my cf card when I am in dual  mode but can only play the mp3s in cloaking mode.  Is this normal?

[ccelada]

Love dual MS mode... no more soft resets!!!!! :)

[williamwck]

Mcfile cannot show the information of CF card but FileZ can show both CF and MS card.

[frasej]

It seems noticeably faster, however I still can't "see" mp3's or movie files or record to CF unless I use MS Cloak. Is that correct?

[caseyatbt]

Yeeeeaaahhhh, Clie Files now works.!!!!

[wchoi19]

:) Audio Player requires that the CF be the first mounted volume. To achieve this do the following:

1. Eject or unmount both the CF and the MS.
2. Insert the CF (mount it if you are not in auto mount mode).
3. Insert the MS.

Then, go to Audio Player and you can see the list of songs.

[wchoi19]

:) I just tested Movie Player. It works well.
1. Just check Dual MS Mode and make sure you did unmount.
2. Unplug both CF and MS.
3. Plug in only CF and mount it.
4. Go to Movie Player.
Then you can see the list of movies.

[Shiryu]

Correct me if I'm wrong.

Dual MS Mode works not like "Dual MS" when it be actived. AudioPlayer & MoviePlayer are still see the content of one card, either MS or CF. This mode is just like the old trick that we have found in Ver 1.0. Is that possible to let the SONY native software to recognize the contents of both card? This is what I presume that the Dual MS Mode should work like. Or the function is pretty similar with MS Cloaking mode, we can just use the limited content in one card.

[caohotcool]

Originally posted by wchoi19
:) I just tested Movie Player. It works well.
1. Just check Dual MS Mode and make sure you did unmount.
2. Unplug both CF and MS.
3. Plug in only CF and mount it.
4. Go to Movie Player.
Then you can see the list of movies.

I can see the list of movies but I cannot play them. It can be played in cloaking mode.

When I tried to play them, it gave a error message.
"Cannot play the selected movie. This format might not be supported."

[Brownster]

I had the same problem with previous versions of CFDriver on my NX60. I had to reinstall my System Update and MSPro Update to get Movie Player to work again. Remember if you ever do a hard reset and restore that you have to reinstall all updates as they usually are not backedup...atleast not by BackMan, which I use.

Jim

Originally posted by caohotcool


I can see the list of movies but I cannot play them. It can be played in cloaking mode.

When I tried to play them, it gave a error message.
"Cannot play the selected movie. This format might not be supported."

[eludwig]

Eruware roXXors!

Dual MS mode is a very flexible cool arrangement that answers most of the inconveniences of the masquerade mode. Whichever (MS or CF) is inserted first becomes the "primary" memory for the Clie for the built-in apps. The Mp3 player sees the songs on either one, but not both, depending on which is inserted first. Switching the cards is trivial now. Just put the CF driver into automount mode (and Dual MS mode, of course) and pop the little buggers in and out!! Woot! I totally love it!

Great work, guys!!

Ed

p.s. Did I say I love it? no? I love it!! ;-)

[ayasin]

I forgot to mention in my press release (which isn't on the front page yet...hope a mod checks the news mail soon) that the Dual MS Mode option is sticky after a reset. Also for people having issues with their audio players, make sure your CF is the fisrt volume (see manual) AND that you have a memory stick inserted

[rcrump2005]

Yikes. If I use Dual Mode and use Audio Player I get the following message: This track is unavailable for one of the following reasons: The Memory Stick media is write protected or does not support copywright control, or the track file is corrupted. I can use the MS Cloaking mode and the CF audio works great (tested on same audio tracks). I am using a Vikking 256 CF on an NX70. Suggestions ???

[caohotcool]

Originally posted by rcrump2005
Yikes. If I use Dual Mode and use Audio Player I get the following message: This track is unavailable for one of the following reasons: The Memory Stick media is write protected or does not support copywright control, or the track file is corrupted. I can use the MS Cloaking mode and the CF audio works great (tested on same audio tracks). I am using a Vikking 256 CF on an NX70. Suggestions ???

I just tested MP3 player. I got the same problem.
I have SanDisk 1GB and NX70v

[Brownster]

Make sure you have the updates installed. I got this after a hard resest and restore. I have to use MSPro update too to keep from getting this message.

Jim

Originally posted by rcrump2005
Yikes. If I use Dual Mode and use Audio Player I get the following message: This track is unavailable for one of the following reasons: The Memory Stick media is write protected or does not support copywright control, or the track file is corrupted. I can use the MS Cloaking mode and the CF audio works great (tested on same audio tracks). I am using a Vikking 256 CF on an NX70. Suggestions ???

[rcrump2005]

:D You da man.... after MS Pro update Dual MS Mode works GREAT !! Bring on more CF cards!!!! Byte me Sony...

[wilfredt]

Movie player still hangs when I click the play button. I have tried both MS Dual mode and MS Cloaking. (Also tried with slow mount and read only combinations)

My Config :
- MS Pro update re-installed.
- Transcend 1G
- MS Pro 512M
- NZ90
- movie files about 70-80M, 20 mins, High Quality

Am I the only one who still has problem on that??

[Brownster]

I think there are still some issues with Movie Player. I have some movies that play on CF and others that do not. I think this is still an issue that is listed in the Known Issues Document. There doesn't seem to be any ryhme or reason to which work or don't work.

Jim

Originally posted by wilfredt
Movie player still hangs when I click the play button. I have tried both MS Dual mode and MS Cloaking. (Also tried with slow mount and read only combinations)

My Config :
- MS Pro update re-installed.
- Transcend 1G
- MS Pro 512M
- NZ90
- movie files about 70-80M, 20 mins, High Quality

Am I the only one who still has problem on that??

[esc]

Hi guys,

Movie Players still not working very well in both MS cloaking and MS Dual mode.

Is either clicked play... hangs

or

able to play movie but unable to stop at all...

esc

[Eddy]

MoviePlayer
MoviePlayer has always had an issue with its' features with running off Compact Flash Card. I've gotten used to that. & I think Eruware has already tried their very best to accomplish & tackle this complicated matter. I'm very satisified indeed, with all it has to offer. Very great improvement! Thank You Eruware! :D

Surely it's much more stable yet offering the Dual Mode proving to be useful without soft-resets.
Thought I've just installed the driver, I haven't the time to do some extensive testing on it. Keep up the good work! :D

[rob_squared]

I know, I love dual MS mode. Soft resetting wasn't too bad, but not having to do it is so nice.

[Unregistered]

Originally posted by Brownster
I had the same problem with previous versions of CFDriver on my NX60. I had to reinstall my System Update and MSPro Update to get Movie Player to work again. Remember if you ever do a hard reset and restore that you have to reinstall all updates as they usually are not backedup...atleast not by BackMan, which I use.

Jim



I got the same problem with you !!!!
when i turn on the DUAL MS mode and mount the CF, the Audio Play said no music track. then i remove MS, it said No MS. after re-insert the MS to MY nx70, it can reconize all MP3, but when i play it, the same error message as you!!!!!

[elwood1]

CF Driver/Utility is giving me the message that reg. code is incorrect. Help

[n1nsei]

Dual Mode works in most part ;)

- when in Dual Mode I can play MP3 from CF card, and (what I find most interesting) CLIE Viewer sees pictures from both cards - from MS and from CF as well. I even tried to check how Dual Mode is 'idiot proof': I copied same .jpg image to /PALM/Images on both cards, and guess what? CLIE Viewer is able to recognize both pictures, however it shows the one from MS as first in thumbnail mode.

- when in Dual Mode Movie Player is not able to recognize any movies - but CLIE Viewer shows them in thumbnail mode, and is able to run Movie Player applet without any problems.

- when in Dual Mode, with Caching set to On system hangs up when Audio Player plays MP3, and at the same time another application tries to access any file from CF card. CLIE freezes for fraction of second, sometimes up to 2 or maybe 3 seconds, and then I get FATAL EXCEPTION, or in rare cases some kind of debug notification saying 'System Error' and hex number I was unable to memorize.

Apps in Dual Mode:

- Audio Player records sound to MS - good,

- CLIE Camera saves pictures to MS,

- Movie Rec saves movies to temporary file, and when finishing recording it reports Multimedia System Error. There is in CLIE Files temporary movie file, but without name change there is no way to play it.

- CLIE Files works without any problems.

Well, this is getting closer to fit my needs. Native app that write data should write to Memory Stick, to maintain compatibility. CF as usually larger card should be used as converted movie and MP3 storage. Movies from Movie Rec are small, so I see no problem with recording them to Memory Stick.

OK, I just wanted to summarize my experiences with new version of driver - hope someone will find it useful.

[zzv347]

Has anyone noticed that the user guide shipped with 1.2 is the old one?

It has no info on Dual Mode and still uses the old name for MS Cloaking....

[zzv347]

WIPED CF !!

Just been playing around with the CF in and out, with or without the MS. To try and get Dual Mode working.

I now have a CF Card that windows says has one directory PALM, no files and has 6.21MB free. Strange for a 256MB card.

Looks like a return of the CF wiping bug......

:confused:

[Eddy]

Originally posted by n1nsei
Movie Rec saves movies to temporary file, and when finishing recording it reports Multimedia System Error. There is in CLIE Files temporary movie file, but without name change there is no way to play it.
Nice! I never realized there was a temp file from recording! Until I read about your post & also found a fie somewhat like this "%12_tmp%.MQV" & it was working after I renamed it! Thanks! :D before I just assumed that it was a junk file.
Originally posted by zzv347
Looks like a return of the CF wiping bug......
You must be kidding right? This wasn't encountered during ClieFiles was it? During which procedure did this started to occur?

[Raybot]

Originally posted by zzv347
Has anyone noticed that the user guide shipped with 1.2 is the old one?

It has no info on Dual Mode and still uses the old name for MS Cloaking....

Not sure if its the same manual I got but mine has MS Masquerading but then under it, a thing about MS Cloaking. It also has a thing about Dual Mode ... I think for the sake of simplicity, the old manual was modified to add the new features ...


- Raybot

[johnnylion]

I've been experiencing difficulty with playing MP3 files in Dual MS Mode--AudioPlayer sees the MP3 files, but I get the same "Invalid File" warning that others are getting when I try to play a selection.

Others have mentioned the need for an MS Pro Updater. Where can this be found and what is it for?

Thanks in advance, John

[Eddy]

[size=1]MS Pro Patch[/quote]
Not sure which version NX you have, so you have to choose your model from the link below, and BACKUP before you do the update.
Sony US official site
http://www.ita.sel.sony.com/support/clie/

[n2ifp]

Originally posted by johnnylion
I've been experiencing difficulty with playing MP3 files in Dual MS Mode--AudioPlayer sees the MP3 files, but I get the same "Invalid File" warning that others are getting when I try to play a selection.

Others have mentioned the need for an MS Pro Updater. Where can this be found and what is it for?

Thanks in advance, John

It can be found at Sony's support site. It was mainly for the new MS Pro stick, but it seems to have helped in other areas with the CF driver.

[Unregistered]

dual ms mode will not allow me to play either audio or video files. while they are listed and show up, i get either a crash when playing videos or a message that the file is not supported when playing audio files.

however, when in cloaking mode, both work...but i still have to perform resets.

i swear i will never buy another sony pda; their attitude sucks, their tech support is awful (i was told that the nx60 does not play audio files).

[n2ifp]

Originally posted by Unregistered

i swear i will never buy another sony pda; their attitude sucks, their tech support is awful (i was told that the nx60 does not play audio files).

Your kidding?? Sony actually said that?? Amazing :D

[Eddy]

Tech support people.... they just cut you off like that? I thought they'd usually transfer you to another department & then refer to another and then some...

[tracker1]

Originally posted by elwood1
CF Driver/Utility is giving me the message that reg. code is incorrect. Help

elwood1,

You may already figured a way out, but just incase you have not, simply do a soft reset and that message will go away.

Best,
John

[skou2]

Originally posted by zzv347
WIPED CF !!

Just been playing around with the CF in and out, with or without the MS. To try and get Dual Mode working.

I now have a CF Card that windows says has one directory PALM, no files and has 6.21MB free. Strange for a 256MB card.

Looks like a return of the CF wiping bug......

:confused:

I had the same problem. I have a NZ90, a Sony 128 MB purple memory stick, and a SanDisk 192 MB CF card. I have MP3 on both memory cards, and even though I already had the MSPro update installed, I couldn't get dual mode to work properly, i.e., get files from both cards to be seen by Audio Player. I tried reinstalling the MSPro update after reading the thread here, and then when I launched Audio Player, I saw a list of garbled file names (not sure on which memory medium they were found). My NZ90 started beeping angrily, then a fault occurred. After a reset, the MP3 files on my CF card have disappeared, even though they still take up space (I supposedly have 28MB only left, but the card lists only a bunch of empty directories, including MSAUDIO). The files are still gone if I take the CF card to my laptop.

What happened? Are the files on the CF card recoverable, or do I have to reformat the darn thing? Help!

[skou2]

Originally posted by skou2


After a reset, the MP3 files on my CF card have disappeared, even though they still take up space (I supposedly have 28MB only left, but the card lists only a bunch of empty directories, including MSAUDIO). The files are still gone if I take the CF card to my laptop.



Ooops, correction: the whole MSAUDIO folder is gone (I still have MSFILES ans MSSOUND folders), but the folder and the files it contains still take up memory on the card...

[Unregistered]

Originally posted by skou2


Ooops, correction: the whole MSAUDIO folder is gone (I still have MSFILES ans MSSOUND folders), but the folder and the files it contains still take up memory on the card...

Sorry for the multiplicity of posts... Another clue: if I try creating a new folder MSAUDIO in the PROGRAMS folder (on my laptop, using a CF card adapter), I get an error that such a folder already exists, even though Windows Explorer cannot see it (I also tried looking for it with no success using the MSDOS C:\ Command Prompt utility). So the folder is definitely there, but hidden somehow (and yes, I did enable the listing of hidden files).

[johnnylion]

Originally posted by Eddy
[size=1]MS Pro Patch
Not sure which version NX you have, so you have to choose your model from the link below, and BACKUP before you do the update.
Sony US official site
http://www.ita.sel.sony.com/support/clie/ [/QUOTE]

Thanks for the info. I've got an NX70. There are actually quite a few files there I could benefit from--unfortunately, the site's not working well as I get timed out trying to download the files...

Cheers,
John

[n2ifp]

Originally posted by skou2


What happened? Are the files on the CF card recoverable, or do I have to reformat the darn thing? Help!

It's possible if you use ScanDisk or Norton's Disk Doctor to fix the directory and file structure. You need to do it from an external card reader. What caused it, I can't say.

[n2ifp]

Originally posted by johnnylion

Not sure which version NX you have, so you have to choose your model from the link below, and BACKUP before you do the update.
Sony US official site
http://www.ita.sel.sony.com/support/clie/

Thanks for the info. I've got an NX70. There are actually quite a few files there I could benefit from--unfortunately, the site's not working well as I get timed out trying to download the files...

Cheers,
John


I just tried it and it downloaded fine??

[Eddy]

I'd suggest copying all files remaining from your CF to your PC, 6-in-1 read/write or Mounting.
Then see how the CF contents behaves on your PC. But don't format your CF just yet, try deleting a few folders & sometimes these files might be recoverable.
I had a similar case with CF ver1.1.2 with ClieFiles that made 2xPALM folders. I tried to delete one of the Palm folders, then window error saying that the folder isn't empty. After that all the contents came back. Hope this might help.
If this doesn't work,worst scenario might be format.

I had this experience with the previous driver not functioning with ClieFiles so since then I've always make an image copy of all my files stored in CF on my PC's HDD. :)

[johnnylion]

Hmmm.... Would you mind emailing it to me then?

Thanks,
John

[Eddy]

with all these CF wipped cases, I might need to do another backup of my 256MB CF again. Just to make sure. :p
Nothing is "fool proof".

[n2ifp]

Originally posted by johnnylion
Hmmm.... Would you mind emailing it to me then?

Thanks,
John

I just sent you a note, as I cannot attached a file throught ClieSource.

If you reply to my email, then it should give me your address to send to.

Thanks!

Larry Winward

 

 

[ayasin]

If you have problems with the driver (Dual MS mode locking up is a key indication) make sure that you actually updated your driver. You must delete your old driver via the CF Utility. See the quick start secion of the manual for details on how to do this. I suspect at many of the people having strange problems are using older versions of the driver.

[drvman02]

For the AudioPlayer Issue, the MS PRO update does fix the problem.

I was having issues with it, downloaded the update now it works great. I must say I like the dual mode.

Now

[Eddy]

Yep, choose remove driver, this will cause a soft-reset. Then hotsync the 2 files that came with the new ver1.2 :D

[Flash-57]

> CF Driver/Utility is giving me the message
> that reg. code is incorrect. Help

Yeah, it did that to me. Make sure you install the CFutility program AND the slot driver. I didn't install the slot driver. Now that I have, it works fine.

[clueless]

Originally posted by Eddy
[size=1]MS Pro Patch
Not sure which version NX you have, so you have to choose your model from the link below, and BACKUP before you do the update.
Sony US official site
http://www.ita.sel.sony.com/support/clie/ [/QUOTE]

I can't find the mspro update on that page. I have tried clicking nx60 and searching on that page

[skou2]

Originally posted by n2ifp


It's possible if you use ScanDisk or Norton's Disk Doctor to fix the directory and file structure. You need to do it from an external card reader. What caused it, I can't say.

I tried various disk fixing utilities, but my CF card stayed wiped. I ended up reformatting it.

Meanwhile, I did a hard reset on my NZ90, reinstalled all applications and updates, including MSPRO, and STILL I cannot get dual mode to work properly (128MB Sony blue MS and 192 MB SanDisk CF). Yes, I do have the 1.2 CF driver. The symptoms are:

1) If I mount the CF card FIRST, AudioPlayer sees NO files (but CLIE files does see the contents of the CF card); then as soon as I put in a MS stick in, AudioPlayer all of a sudden sees the files on the CF card only (not the ones on the MS); CLIE files does see the contents of both cards; if I then unmount the CF card, AudioPlayer still does not detect the files on the MS.

2) Using any of the slow mount, slow mode, auto mount options does not help any;

3) If I mount the MS card first, AudioPlayer sees the MS files immediately. Mounting the CF card afterwards never results in these files being detected by AudioPlayer (but by CLIE files ok).

4) I tried the sequences above with a 512 MB Sony MS Pro and a 512 MB SanDisk CF card, with the same results.

Has ANYBODY managed to get dual mode to work with the NZ90, a SanDisk CF card and a memory stick? Or maybe I'm just thick and I misunderstand the dual mode option; am I right that AudioPlayer is supposed to detect simultaneously all mp3 files on both cards, and able to play from lists of files mixed between the two?

[Eddy]

OK, here's the direct link for MS Pro patch download:
http://www.ita.sel.sony.com/bin/support/support.cgi?whichone=1&installfile=mspronx_enus.txt&downloadfile=MSPRONX_ENUS.PRC&loc=2

Here's the page you're looking for, all the different update patches. (should take a look at the
http://www.ita.sel.sony.com/support/clie/nx60/softupdates/

Should also look at the Clie Handheld System Patch to see if you have it yet.
it's the file name...... SYSUPDATEPACKNX_US.PRC

Hope this helps. :p

[frasej]

Actually, what you describe is the way it's supposed to work, and is documented.

[skou2]

Originally posted by frasej
Actually, what you describe is the way it's supposed to work, and is documented.

Ok, I was just being thick, then. I reread all the posts and I see that the behavior I've been observing (except for the CF wipe, of course) is the correct one. Thanks!

[frasej]

Originally posted by skou2


Ok, I was just being thick, then. I reread all the posts and I see that the behavior I've been observing (except for the CF wipe, of course) is the correct one. Thanks!

No problem. It happens. Every time the CF driver changes, things work a little differently, and not always the way we think it should work.

[zzv347]

Ok, just wiped the CF again.

ry this :-

Driver settings Auto Mount & Dual Ms Mode

Remove CF and MS

Open Cliefiles 1.0

Insert CF and see what happens.

I'm now formatting my CF again....

Anyone else???

[Eddy]

ClieFiles v1.0 hum..... the latest is ClieFiles v1.1
though I don't see any significance in that. so you mean just ClieFiles corrupting your CF? try using other types of files managing applications like McFile... this might save you from the format, although it's mentioned to be supported, I don't want to tamper with ClieFile. & since I got use to using McFile it's much more convient for me. :)

[rgrov]

I installed the CF 1.2 last night. Works great! I took the CF out of my Nikon Coolpix.. dropped it in my NX70 running CF1.2. Launched PDA Photo and all the JPEGs from my CF were immediately available for a slide show in high resolution. Life is good.

[RonG-NX60]

I could not understand why when choosing "Dual MS Mode" that Audio Player could not recognize music files on my CF-card. So I read carefully through the postings to learn that if I had ever performed a hard reset on my Clie that I would need to reinstall updates. I would never have thought of this solution on my own. Thanks for the tip; once I reinstalled the updates everything is working great! I registered on this site today because of this great help!

[Eddy]

RonG-NX60
you should also use your regular Memory Stick to perform an MSBackup, perhaps make a backup everytime you add something new to your CLIE. so if your Clie suffered from Hard-reset, you can just recovery everything (with all the updates) back to your Clie on the spot! :D
welcome to the big family! :)

[wymo]

ok I'm stumped I went to install the new driver and it won't instal, I even went as far as removing the old utility manually, my clie install shows the 2 files to be installed next time I hotsync, but when I do they dont' get installed and they are still showin as to be installed the next time I do, so whats up?? the rest of my hotsync goes fine I don't get it??

[sp535]

I dont know what kind of issue to me yet. But all I know is Eruware is Great. I thank you so much for these amazing job. I'm sure whatever issue we have, they'll solve as time goes. I just thought about 2 month ago when there were no CF utilities and now we have so many possibilities.

I just love it!!!!!