ZLAUNCHER 3.5 B6 is released!

[*YellowRose*]

Zlauncher 3.5 B6 is now available for download at PalmGear!

[n2ifp]

Just downloaded it, Thanks!

[n2ifp]

Does anyone remember what 'Fast Access Menu' does in ZLauncher preferences??

I could not find any reference to it in the manual.

[SamuraiCatJB]

Will we reach B52 before release? :D seriously, it is already very stable I am still amazed at what you get for your money with Zlauncher. :) Can plants appreciate a good launcher? ;)

[jamester]

Nice. This launcher kicks booty. Yep. :) Not sure what Fast Access Menu does, n2ifp. I don't play much with the settings, hehe

J

[Unregistered]

very nice, I do wonder what this version has done...

[dunn]

Originally posted by n2ifp
Does anyone remember what 'Fast Access Menu' does in ZLauncher preferences??

I could not find any reference to it in the manual.

check the box to enable launching "menu" of Zlauncher while tapping space between buttons in top/ bottom bar

[sebring]

Originally posted by n2ifp
Does anyone remember what 'Fast Access Menu' does in ZLauncher preferences??

I could not find any reference to it in the manual.

Allows you to tap the area between any tab and the edge of the screen to access the main menu.

[a_qi]

Just downloaded it.
Anyone knows what's new in this update?
Indeed, It's really stable and the new addition "Quicklaunch anywhere" is working fine, though I was hoping they could add two more items in the extention: "Previous app" & "file manager".

[sebring]

Changes in B6 per ZZTechs:

"ZL v3.50 B6 is just published at PalmGear:
http://www.palmgear.com/software/showsoftware.cfm?prodID=43812

It fixed several bugs and improved the compatibility with other
software. If you are insterested in it, please give it a try,
and let me know how it runs on your handheld. Thank you.

The shortcut has been re-implemented since v3.50B5, the first
time of launching this version will delete all old shortcuts
created by the previous betas of v3.50B5, and re-create new
shortcuts for the apps under /Palm/Programs/ZLauncher/Apps/ directory.

ZLQuickLaunchHack was updated to 1.01, if you are using PalmOS3.5
or 4.X handhelds, I recommend you upgrade it. Please be sure to
deactivate the old version of ZLQuickLaunchHack before installing
the new version.

Please note, since this beta version has not been well tested on
all handheld models, it might damage the data on your handheld.
Try this beta version AT YOUR OWN RISK. Backing up data of your
handheld before running this beta is strongly recommended.


Best Regards,":)

[Alistar]

Sebring,
I just installed B6 and I didn't lose my shortcuts.
About box says B6
And I know I didn't lost my shortcuts because my shortcuts from the CF card are still there and I had my Wi-fi card in when I installed B6.

[SuperSaiyan]

I think, once launched, the shortcuts are removed and and replaced with the B6 shortcut without user intervention. Mine appeared unaltered as well.

[Alistar]

Oh, ok.
Because when I went from b4 to b5 I actually lost them and had to manually copy the CF apps to ram and remove them to get the shortcuts back because the Update shortcuts doesn't do the CF yet.

[rldunn]

Can one person with an NX and another without an NX run the following test for me? Create at least one shortcut for apps stored in /ZL/Apps, if you haven't done it already. Then, do a tap and hold on the shortcut and choose Info. From this screen, change the app name to something different (can be as small as changing one character or deleting the asterisk) and hit Save. Now go to Menu-Options-Update All Shortcuts. Finally try to run that shortcut. Do you get a Fatal Exception? ZZtechs doesn't see this on their end, but it happens 100% of the time for me.

To then get rid of the problem, if you get it, delete the shortcut, go into Category Setup, and choose 'Clear ZLDB orphaned records'. Then go to Menu-Options-Update All Shortcuts, and your shortcut will be recreated and won't cause the Fatal Exception.

Thanks!!

[Alistar]

I have an NX and I just got the problem you have rldunn. I didn't see it with B5 though, but I get it now with B6.

[spoirier]

I have a Tungsten C that I just tried it on and got the Fatal Exception.  After the reset the shortcut seems to work just fine with the modifed name.  Changing the name back the way it was and updating the shortcuts again causes the same error.

[sebring]

Same here on my NR. Didn't try it with B5. My MS tab no longer works.

Thanks rldunn, my clie is really screwed up now.:)

After a soft reset, my RAM is down about 40KB. Updating shortcuts restores this lost RAM. Anybody else seeing this?:)

[Alistar]

Just tried it again and I lost 38K until I updated shortcuts again.

[rldunn]

Originally posted by spoirier
I have a Tungsten C that I just tried it on and got the Fatal Exception.  After the reset the shortcut seems to work just fine with the modifed name.  Changing the name back the way it was and updating the shortcuts again causes the same error. On mine, it works just fine after the reset until you choose Update All Shortcuts again, after which you'll get the FE one more time and have to reset.

[SuperSaiyan]

Now this is strange. . . .
I have an NR. I removed the asterisk, hit update shortcuts, hit refresh apps and now I have two icons - one with the shortcut arrow and another with the MS attached to it. It appears that it moved the app.prc to the launcher folder but left me with two icons. . . .?

[rldunn]

Thanks to everyone for running these tests. I'm glad to know that it's not me and that I've finally nailed down the exact steps that cause the problem. I'll let zztechs know about this thread. Thanks again!!

[Caleb_pearson]

I have an nr and when I push update all shortcuts, I get a fatal exception.

[SuperSaiyan]

I just totally removed the app and reinstalled directly to the card. It put copies in the launcher and zlauncher/apps folders and left me with one icon with no asterick, just the MS in the corner of the icon..........more *?*

[sebring]

Originally posted by Caleb_pearson
I have an nr and when I push update all shortcuts, I get a fatal exception.

I had the same problem with my NR. Don't know what of these steps actually cured the problem. In my case, the MS tab showed nothing. All this prompted by the experiment changing the name of a shortcut.

1) Deleting the shortcut didn't work.
2) Also got crash when updating shortcut.
3) Got crash rescaning the MS
4) Got crash refreshing apps

Ended up using file manager to move the app and its files from zlauncher/apps and deleting the subdirectory. Then removed and reinstalled the card. Ran clear ZLDB orphaned files. Ran Refresh Apps, then ran Update Shortcuts. Then moved the app and it's db back to MS, using the ZL tap and hold menu.

Things seem to be back to normal. I'm still getting the loss of RAM with each soft reset that is restored by Updating Shortcuts. Weird.

[SuperSaiyan]

okay.....now I am confused. I moved the app back into RAM, then back to the MS and it went right in the zlauncher/apps folder. This time I have no asterisk - only the shortcut image on the icon now. The app runs fine....hmmmm?

[SuperSaiyan]

One more issue. . . . 
If I make changes to a file on the MS (SmartList to Go) when I close it out the changes are backed up but when it goes back to the "clie-top" the screen is split vertically and everything is squashed and overalpped on the left side of the split. If I hit refresh apps the screen returns to normal. Anyone else experience this??

[Caleb_pearson]

quicklaunch+ anywhere is still in low rez for me, dunno why that is, was hoping the update in the hack would fix it... hopefully it will be resolved because I hate looking at low rez icons...

[sebring]

Originally posted by Caleb_pearson
quicklaunch+ anywhere is still in low rez for me, dunno why that is, was hoping the update in the hack would fix it... hopefully it will be resolved because I hate looking at low rez icons...

I don't think that will be changed any time soon. Li explained it has to be low res for compatibility reasons.

[sebring]

Originally posted by sebring


I'm still getting the loss of RAM with each soft reset that is restored by Updating Shortcuts. Weird.

RAM loss also occurs if I exit ZLauncher to the default launcher and re-launch ZL. About 40KB. RAM come back by Updating shortcuts.

[Caleb_pearson]

I lose about 19k when I leave the launcher and then come back... after updating I gain it back...

[OcellNuri]

I just jumped to B6 from B2... so forgive me for being a little behind. Is everyone else getting a pink box around the shortcut graphic on thier icons? Looks like a transparency problem to me.

[rldunn]

Originally posted by OcellNuri
I just jumped to B6 from B2... so forgive me for being a little behind. Is everyone else getting a pink box around the shortcut graphic on thier icons? Looks like a transparency problem to me. No, I'm not. Maybe it's skin-dependent. I do know that pink is the transparency color for ZL skins.

[rldunn]

Originally posted by sebring


I had the same problem with my NR. Don't know what of these steps actually cured the problem. In my case, the MS tab showed nothing. All this prompted by the experiment changing the name of a shortcut.

1) Deleting the shortcut didn't work.
2) Also got crash when updating shortcut.
3) Got crash rescaning the MS
4) Got crash refreshing apps

Ended up using file manager to move the app and its files from zlauncher/apps and deleting the subdirectory. Then removed and reinstalled the card. Ran clear ZLDB orphaned files. Ran Refresh Apps, then ran Update Shortcuts. Then moved the app and it's db back to MS, using the ZL tap and hold menu.

Things seem to be back to normal. I'm still getting the loss of RAM with each soft reset that is restored by Updating Shortcuts. Weird. Sorry to those of you who are having lots of problems due to the experiment. On my NX, the steps I put make the problem go away and are relatively painless, but that's obviously not the case on other devices. Thanks again for testing this out and sorry that you're having issues with it!!

[Caleb_pearson]

Originally posted by sebring


I had the same problem with my NR. Don't know what of these steps actually cured the problem. In my case, the MS tab showed nothing. All this prompted by the experiment changing the name of a shortcut.

1) Deleting the shortcut didn't work.
2) Also got crash when updating shortcut.
3) Got crash rescaning the MS
4) Got crash refreshing apps

Ended up using file manager to move the app and its files from zlauncher/apps and deleting the subdirectory. Then removed and reinstalled the card. Ran clear ZLDB orphaned files. Ran Refresh Apps, then ran Update Shortcuts. Then moved the app and it's db back to MS, using the ZL tap and hold menu.

Things seem to be back to normal. I'm still getting the loss of RAM with each soft reset that is restored by Updating Shortcuts. Weird.


it appears that this has helped me out a lot, thank you.
The key seems to be deleting the orphaned files.

[Alistar]

Originally posted by OcellNuri
I just jumped to B6 from B2... so forgive me for being a little behind. Is everyone else getting a pink box around the shortcut graphic on thier icons? Looks like a transparency problem to me.

No pink box on any of my skins either.

[sebring]

No pink box here either.

[sebring]

Originally posted by rldunn
Sorry to those of you who are having lots of problems due to the experiment. On my NX, the steps I put make the problem go away and are relatively painless, but that's obviously not the case on other devices. Thanks again for testing this out and sorry that you're having issues with it!!

No problem, it was kinda fun dragging my ox out of the ditch.:)

[n2ifp]

Originally posted by dunn


check the box to enable launching "menu" of Zlauncher while tapping space between buttons in top/ bottom bar

Originally posted by sebring


Allows you to tap the area between any tab and the edge of the screen to access the main menu.

Hi Guys,

Thank you! I don't know how I missed it, but now I know :)

[volcanopele]

Just installed b6 on my NR70V. Runs fine don't really notice any changes other than when I activated ZL+ Anywhere again after upgrading, I got a message that said something to the effect that QL+ may cause a slow down in performance with certain applications. Haven't noticed anything so far.

the program also didn't change the shortcuts. I am guessing this is the same step from b5 so I have already done that.

Now I just need to restore all my apps on my card. I lost my 128MB data memory stick today but luckily I had another 128MB card that has my MP3s on it. So I am having to make that my data card and just have to live with out MP3s until I get another 128MB memory stick. I don't know, I might even get that 256MB select card (I know some people have bashed it, and probably rightly so, but the select card is my only option for external memory over 128MB).

[TritonB7]

I moved all my apps from the launcher directory to the palm/zlauncher/apps directory by first moving it to ram, and then selecting move to card option.

Since then when I update my shortcuts I get 2 error messages in the middle of the update saying:

The file was not found at the specified location. (VFS2A08)

Does anyone know what is causing this problem, or know any solutions?

By the way I'm using B6

[n2ifp]

Originally posted by volcanopele
I got a message that said something to the effect that QL+ may cause a slow down in performance with certain applications. Haven't noticed anything so far.


My understanding is that it can slow down certain games if enabled

[Unregistered]

i tried the link above and searching palmgear, but only find B5. Am I just slow today?

[cbulock]

Just checked, and it's still beta 6.

[rldunn]

Originally posted by TritonB7
I moved all my apps from the launcher directory to the palm/zlauncher/apps directory by first moving it to ram, and then selecting move to card option.

Since then when I update my shortcuts I get 2 error messages in the middle of the update saying:

The file was not found at the specified location. (VFS2A08)

Does anyone know what is causing this problem, or know any solutions?

By the way I'm using B6 This seems to happen when one of the subfolders under /ZL/Apps doesn't contain a PRC file of the right name or the folder doesn't have the same name as the shortcut. If you've manually created any shortcuts in this directory, that could be the cause. Do you have anything like that?

[tanker_bob]

Originally posted by TritonB7
I moved all my apps from the launcher directory to the palm/zlauncher/apps directory by first moving it to ram, and then selecting move to card option.

Since then when I update my shortcuts I get 2 error messages in the middle of the update saying:

The file was not found at the specified location. (VFS2A08)

Does anyone know what is causing this problem, or know any solutions?

By the way I'm using B6
Some apps are hard coded on where to look for their files. I don't think the shortcut will solve that problem. ZL has no way of knowing how each app is hard coded.

[tanker_bob]

Originally posted by Caleb_pearson
quicklaunch+ anywhere is still in low rez for me, dunno why that is, was hoping the update in the hack would fix it... hopefully it will be resolved because I hate looking at low rez icons...
Li suggested not excluding ZLauncher from Hi Res Assist or SwitchDash, and that worked. The dialogs are hi res for me now. ZL releases its resources before executing the shortcut, and the hi res libraries are not loaded in that circumstance. By assisting ZL in general, the library stays loaded when its resources are released. Including ZL in SwitchDash support doesn't seem to have slowed it down any. In fact, b6 seems to execute apps off the MS faster than previous versions.

[tanker_bob]

Originally posted by TritonB7
I moved all my apps from the launcher directory to the palm/zlauncher/apps directory by first moving it to ram, and then selecting move to card option.

Since then when I update my shortcuts I get 2 error messages in the middle of the update saying:

The file was not found at the specified location. (VFS2A08)

Does anyone know what is causing this problem, or know any solutions?

By the way I'm using B6
I also received a VFS 2A08 error everytime when updating my shortcuts in b6, but everything works fine. I'm using a T665C w/OS 4.1. I recovered 20K of RAM after updating them the first time tonight. In addition to the VFS error, it looks like there is a possible memory leak somewhere in the creation/maintenance of the shortcuts.

[Mr Sheen]

Originally posted by tanker_bob

The dialogs are hi res for me now.

For me the QL anywhere popup is HiRes on a HiRes app and LoRes for a LoRes app

Sheen

[TritonB7]

Okay I couldnt find a way to fix the VFS2A08 errors, and after toying with the program directories I managed to dig myself a deeper whole to the point where my Clie NZ90 would crash on me with a fatal error every time I tried to get into ZLauncher B6. I ended up doing a cold boot, and erasing everything. So far I have reinstalled Quick Office Premier 7, Font Bucket, DataShield, and Shadow on ZLauncher B6, and everything has gone good so far, no errors.

I have a few questions, and comments from my current exp.

1. How do you normally install most of your apps? Do you install it to the memory stick, or straight to the ram. With B6 I find it akward that the only way to move an app and all of its databases into the ZLauncher/Apps/ directory is to move/install it to the ram first, and then use the "Move to Card" option which will display the dialog box asking if you would like to move all the databases etc for the app to the new ZLauncher/Apps/ dir.

2. I've also noticed in Quick Office Premier 7, and Shadow that after you have moved all the databases related to the app to its specified directory (Apps/ProgramName), and then make a new document in the app you just moved, that the new document will not be made in the Zlauncher/Apps/ProgramName, but in the Ram.

And any changed you make to an existing document that was moved through the "move to card" option stays on the card, only new documents made after you have moved the app are moved to the ram :(.

So if you want to keep every new file, document, or database related to the app your using in the same directory as the app is on your card, you will have to move the app back to ram and then back to the card which will give you the "Move all related database to the app" option. Either that or move it manuelly which I havent tried yet.

Does anyone else here have the same problem? Know of a way to fix it? or is the app i'm using programed to make the file in the ram?

Sorry for the long post.

[tanker_bob]

1. That's the way all similar apps work. You can do it manually by creating the directory yourself and naming it the same as the .prc file, then using Update all shortcuts, but I don't see a problem with putting apps in RAM and then having ZL move them.

2. This is the way it is supposed to work, and the way all similar apps work. How does ZL know where you want the database? You don't have to do anything with the app itself. Simply use the file manager to move the database into the app's directory under ZL, and you're all set. ZL only manipulates those files in its directory structure, as do similar programs. You might want to move all later-created data to the card, but other users may not.

[sinon]

A quick note, B6.2 is just updated at PalmGear.
It fixed some bugs discussed before, such as updating all shortcuts, renaming icon name, and the VFS 2A08 error.

[tanker_bob]

Originally posted by sinon
A quick note, B6.2 is just updated at PalmGear.
It fixed some bugs discussed before, such as updating all shortcuts, renaming icon name, and the VFS 2A08 error.
Wow, that was quick! Thanks! :)

You folks really need to sleep some time...

[sinon]

Tanker Bob answered most questions here, and the VFS 2A08 error means File not found.

If there's a directory named AAA under .../ZLauncher/Apps/, then there should be a file named AAA.prc in .../ZLauncher/Apps/AAA/, or you'll get VFS 2A08 error when you Update All ShortCuts.

[sinon]

Originally posted by tanker_bob

Wow, that was quick! Thanks! :)

You folks really need to sleep some time...

Bob,
It's afternoon in China, sleeping in the office will lose my job.:D

[tanker_bob]

Originally posted by sinon


Bob,
It's afternoon in China, sleeping in the office will lose my job.:D
Oops, don't want that!!!! ;)

[tanker_bob]

Originally posted by sinon
Tanker Bob answered most questions here, and the VFS 2A08 error means File not found.

If there's a directory named AAA under .../ZLauncher/Apps/, then there should be a file named AAA.prc in .../ZLauncher/Apps/AAA/, or you'll get VFS 2A08 error when you Update All ShortCuts.
That was it. I had deleted Note Pad, but somehow left the data file in /ZLauncher/Apps/Note Pad/. b6.2 provided the name of the missing file with the error message, enabling me to find and delete the offending remnants and directory. Nice job!

[rldunn]

I just wanted to confirm here that all the problems I had with Update All Shortcuts are now gone with b6.2. I agree with TB; they did a very nice job here, with a quick turn-around!!

[sebring]

The following are the problems that are remaining on my NR.

1) Crash when I select "keyboard" from the QL Anywhere extension menu and am in an app that accepts text input, like Memo Pad.

2) Memory leak after a soft reset or exiting ZL and re-starting it. Memory restored by Updating shortcuts.

3) After launching QL Anywhere with the Capture button, selecting "soft reset" from the QL Anywhere extension menu results in the Confirmation dialog box being blocked by the VG area.

4) Conflict with McPhling that I previously described and was apparently corrected in B6, has returned.

These folks are really working hard on this release and I have little doubt they will squash all these little bugs.

[lal2707]

Is it time to upgrade to ZL b62 yet or is it better to wait a day until the beta testers have reported their findings?

[Alistar]

It still doesn't want to seem to update my CF card shortcuts.

[rldunn]

Lalit, I think this depends on a) your aversion to minor problems and b) your device. From Sebring's list above, the only issue I have is #2 on my NX, so I consider b6.2 to be very stable. However, if you have an NR or something else that has other problems and you don't like dealing with these issues, then you might be better off waiting. But for the most part, the remaining bugs are pretty obscure on any device, so they're not likely to interfere with your use that much.

[lal2707]

I have a NX70V so looks time to upgrade as most issues are now NR related.

Did you get the McPhling issue?

[rldunn]

No, I don't have any conflicts between ZL and McPhling. Though I had to put McPhling back on to test it, since I removed it once QuickLaunchAnywhere was added to ZL. :)

[lal2707]

Just installed b6.2 and had no problems - all working OK

[tgeorges]

I just d/l 3.5b6 and then tried to install the quicklaunch hack. The hack seemed to install, but I can't get to any configuration screen for it. I am using TealMaster. It comes up as 0k in TealMaster's hack manager screen, and the configure button doesn't bring up any configuration windows.

Anyone who has ZL with this hack and TealMaster - could you please give me an idea of what's going on?

Thanks in advance!

Tom

[Salty10is]

hmmm...could be incompatible with TealMaster...try a different hack program...they're free anyways.

[dunn]

Originally posted by tgeorges
I just d/l 3.5b6 and then tried to install the quicklaunch hack. The hack seemed to install, but I can't get to any configuration screen for it. I am using TealMaster. It comes up as 0k in TealMaster's hack manager screen, and the configure button doesn't bring up any configuration windows.

Anyone who has ZL with this hack and TealMaster - could you please give me an idea of what's going on?

Thanks in advance!

Tom

you can only activate and edit the QL+anywhere hack through:
Menu>> Options>> QuickLaunch setup [check the QL anywhere]

[Tixx]

Can someone do me a little favor and save me lots of reading please:). Just give me the shortest possible explaination of how to put your DAs in QL.
Thanks you:)

[rldunn]

Go to Menu-Tab, and make a new tab. From preset, choose DA. Then your DA's will show up in this tab. Then just drag them to the QL arrow on the gadget bar.

I would recommend getting SelectDA if you don't already have it, and drag that only to the QL list. Then when you select SelectDA, it pops up a list of all DAs, so you don't have to waste room for all your DAs in the QL list.

[Dripps]

What's a DA? (Please forgive my ignorance)

[tanker_bob]

DA = Desk Accessory. They are like hacks in that they pop up over the current app w/o interruption, but without the system memory chain problems that can come with hacks. They are written to a specific spec, most are free, and require a DA launching program. I use the original DALauncher, which is manifested as a Preference category when loaded. McPhling and now ZL will also both launch DAs. I have a list of the ones on my T665C on my software page.

[volcanopele]

DAs are small programs you can run from inside another app. Almost like a popup window. DAs that I have are a Julian time clock, a stopwatch, an Audio app, a volume DA, and a pair of dice.

[Tixx]

Originally posted by rldunn
Go to Menu-Tab, and make a new tab. From preset, choose DA. Then your DA's will show up in this tab. Then just drag them to the QL arrow on the gadget bar.

I would recommend getting SelectDA if you don't already have it, and drag that only to the QL list. Then when you select SelectDA, it pops up a list of all DAs, so you don't have to waste room for all your DAs in the QL list.

Thanks Rod:) Where did you get SelectDA from? I've never seen it.

[rldunn]

It's in our files section.

http://www.cliesource.com/sdownload/fileinfo.php?id=3135

[Tixx]

Originally posted by rldunn
It's in our files section.

http://www.cliesource.com/sdownload/fileinfo.php?id=3135

Thanks:) I was looking here and I might as well post it for those wanting a good site for DAs: http://muchy.com/category/dasoft.html

[Tixx]

Originally posted by rldunn
It's in our files section.

http://www.cliesource.com/sdownload/fileinfo.php?id=3135
This is very nice:) I just put this in QL instead of all the others and I free up space for about 6 more items in my QL Favorites list. Thanks:)

[rldunn]

Originally posted by Tixx

This is very nice:) I just put this in QL instead of all the others and I free up space for about 6 more items in my QL Favorites list. Thanks:) Sure!! That's exactly how I use it. I actually used to limit the number of DAs in my list, but now I can have all of them and not take up more than one spot!!

[tanker_bob]

I'm still getting about a 19K to 23K memory leak in b6.2 (T665C, OS 4.1) repeatably after a soft reset or exiting ZLauncher. I suspect that the reset loss is related to exiting ZL as a consequence of the reset. Update All Shortcuts restores most of the lost RAM, but not all. Update All Shortcuts restores most of the lost RAM, but not quite all.

[sebring]

Anyone else finding that HRCapt DA no longer works. Not sure when it quit, since I don't use it very often.

Update:

HRCapt DA will launch from within the ZL DA tab and if I set it as a favorite in McPhling. If I add it to QL, as soon as I launch QL Anywhere, it gets disappears from the QL and QL Anywhere list. I also won't launch from QL. This is the only DA that seems to behave this way, so far.

[Unregistered]

i wish there was an option to hide the shortcut arrows. spoils the overall look of the icons :(

[SamuraiCatJB]

I haven't read through this whole thread... however, I noticed one change with B6... smallware solitare free runs horribly slow.... I am playing around with options, I had the quickstart hack on, but I turned it off, still running slow in the animation... REAL slow....

[sebring]

Originally posted by sebring
Anyone else finding that HRCapt DA no longer works. Not sure when it quit, since I don't use it very often.

Update:

HRCapt DA will launch from within the ZL DA tab and if I set it as a favorite in McPhling. If I add it to QL, as soon as I launch QL Anywhere, it gets disappears from the QL and QL Anywhere list. I also won't launch from QL. This is the only DA that seems to behave this way, so far.

Found two other DAs that won't launch at all. AudioCtrl DA and LClip DA.:(

Nevermind, AudioCtrl DA does work and so does LClip DA. I just didn't have any MP3s on my MS and wasn't in a text app for LClip.

HRCapt seems to be the only one having trouble.

[sebring]

Also now found the problem with HRCapt DA. Apparently it can't be run from ROM, using JackFlash Light, under ZL b6.2. It did work from ROM under b6.

[sebring]

Originally posted by Unregistered
i wish there was an option to hide the shortcut arrows. spoils the overall look of the icons :(

Hey they look a whole lot better than the low res ones with a big square that PowerRun used.:)

[fengwei007]

Originally posted by Unregistered
i wish there was an option to hide the shortcut arrows. spoils the overall look of the icons :(

This is skinnable. Just use your own shortcut arrow bitmaps or make a transparent one.

[lal2707]

After I upgraded to ZLb62 I have noticed that if I Reset Application or Update ALL shortcuts, some of the applications appear under Unfiled Tab. To make is worse some are duplicates whilst others are not. I therefore have to review each one individually. Anyone else had this problem?

[tanker_bob]

All the above DAs work fine for me under ZL 3.50b6.2 when launched from QL Anywhere using SelectDA.

Li answered my "memory leak" question:

"Actually, this is not memory leak. It's a very technical question.

You know, the system launcher caches infomation of apps in internal memory to psysLaunchDB. When an app is modified, the corresponding record in psysLaunchDB will be updated, but the app icon will not be cached until the system default launcher starts or the handheld resets.

When you Update all shortcuts, the corresponding records in psysLaunchDB will be updated, but no app icons cached. So if you found RAM increased 20K, psysLaunchDB should has been decreased 20K. And after a softreset or exit to the system default launcher, psysLaunchDB will increase 20K, and the RAM decrease 20K."

That's probably why Palm OS doesn't give a detailed memory summary--Palm wanted all the little give and take to stay below the radar screen.

[tanker_bob]

Originally posted by lal2707
After I upgraded to ZLb62 I have noticed that if I Reset Application or Update ALL shortcuts, some of the applications appear under Unfiled Tab. To make is worse some are duplicates whilst others are not. I therefore have to review each one individually. Anyone else had this problem?
This will happen if you are creating shortcuts for apps in /Palm/Launcher/. That because the OS and ZL already had icons for those apps, and creating a shortcut creates a duplicate icon. Since the OS and ZL don't automatically put apps in /Palm/Programs/ZLauncher/Apps/ in the launcher, there is no duplicate when creating shortcuts. Don't know if that fits your situation.

[bobbd]

Originally posted by SamuraiCatJB
however, I noticed one change with B6... smallware solitare free runs horribly slow....
On my T665 it seems to run okay under B6.2. Turning over the cards is a bit slow, but not horribly, takes about a second per card, but drag and drop is fine.

Bob

[Tixx]

I noticed that Apps moved to the ZL/Apps folder are not visible in the regular ZL card interface, but can be seen in the ZL file manager. I also cannot see these apps in McFile.:confused B6.2 being used on NX.

[rldunn]

If by 'regular ZL card interface', you're talking about the MS tab, I can see the apps in the /ZL/Apps folder just fine, and I can also see the apps in McFile. Not sure what's different?

[sebring]

Originally posted by sebring
The following are the problems that are remaining on my NR.

1) Crash when I select "keyboard" from the QL Anywhere extension menu and am in an app that accepts text input, like Memo Pad.

2) Memory leak after a soft reset or exiting ZL and re-starting it. Memory restored by Updating shortcuts.

3) After launching QL Anywhere with the Capture button, selecting "soft reset" from the QL Anywhere extension menu results in the Confirmation dialog box being blocked by the VG area.

4) Conflict with McPhling that I previously described and was apparently corrected in B6, has returned.

These folks are really working hard on this release and I have little doubt they will squash all these little bugs.

Resolution of problems listed above:

1) The crash when selecting "keyboard" was caused by the Handera Bold font from Lubak's Fonts4OS4 font set. The other fonts do not cause this crash.

2) I received the same explanation from Li at ZZTechs that tanker-bob described above.

3) & 4) Remain unresolved.

[volcanopele]

My remaining issue (though I haven't tested #3 from sebring's list, don't pay that much attention to my memory for #2, and don't use McPhling for #4) is that the capture button won't call up Quicklaunch+ Anywhere after a hotsync, requiring a soft reset to fix it.

Sebring, are you still getting that issue?

[Tixx]

Originally posted by rldunn
If by 'regular ZL card interface', you're talking about the MS tab, I can see the apps in the /ZL/Apps folder just fine, and I can also see the apps in McFile. Not sure what's different?

Yea, that is what I mean. I can see the ZL/Apps folder itself, but not the game I placed within it in either that specific ZL interface or McFile.

[sebring]

Originally posted by volcanopele
My remaining issue (though I haven't tested #3 from sebring's list, don't pay that much attention to my memory for #2, and don't use McPhling for #4) is that the capture button won't call up Quicklaunch+ Anywhere after a hotsync, requiring a soft reset to fix it.

Sebring, are you still getting that issue?

I'm not having that problem. Are you using the new QL Anywhere hack v1.01? The Capture button still activates QL Anywhere after a hotsync on my NR.

You don't happen to be using Capture with some other hack, in addition to QL Anywhere, do you?

[volcanopele]

no, I have no other hack running.

Here are my RAM/Flash ROM apps:
ZLauncher (with ZLQuickLaunchHack 1.01)
Jot
vivid
fullscreen utilities
Datebk5
Handyshopper
AcidImage
MegaClock
Supernames
Smartlist
Wordsmith
Kinoma
Clie RMC
powerOne Graph
Yaps
Countdown
iSilo
Bonsai
MS Dict
4.0Student
fonts4OS4
GameController
JackFlash
SwitchDash
X-Master (with only ZLQuickLaunchHack activated)
SkinMgr
JackSprat
PiBackup

[tanker_bob]

This probably has nothing to do with the problem, but try YAHM 0.99 with ZLQL 1.01 instead of X-Master. I've found that it fixed several system conflicts with my hacks. Do any of the other apps use, or are able to use, the capture button?

[volcanopele]

I'll have to give that a try. The only app that use the capture button is the cliecamera. Fullscreen and Vivid also use it but only when in those applications.

[sebring]

I agree with TB's recommendation of YAHM over X-Master. It also solved a problem I was having with Uninstall Hack. Which font are you using with Fonts4OS4? The Handera Bold caused a crash on my NR whenever I selected "keyboard" from the QL Anywhere extension menu. The other fonts seem to work fine. I've also had problem (display issues) with Switchdash in the past and now just use the default hires assist.

Do Fullscreen and Vivid have settings to use the Capture button, or do they just automatically use it. If they have settings, try disabling these options.

Another possibility might be JackFlash. I was running HRCapt DA from Flash with JackFlash Light, but when I updated to ZL B6.2, it quit working. I've moved it back to RAM and Back to Flash again, to get it to work again.

[volcanopele]

I can't test this issue just yet but I have switched to YAHM. I am using Tungsten T font and haven't had a problem with it.
I used to have display issues with Switchdash (hi-res not "restarting" after exiting an exempt app). However, ever since I removed PiDirect II, I haven't had those issues. I use switch dash because many of my low-res apps are on the card and not in ram, making hi-res assist useless.
They automatically use them, but only in the app they are in. They do nothing outside their respective applications.
I don't know why JackFlash would be a problem. There are no Zlauncher components in Flash ROM nor am I having problem with programs in Flash ROM.

[RO-Cl]

Anyone have an idea when 3.5 will exit beta and be released?

[Tixx]

Originally posted by RO-Cl
Anyone have an idea when 3.5 will exit beta and be released?

Not me:)

[tanker_bob]

Originally posted by volcanopele
I used to have display issues with Switchdash (hi-res not "restarting" after exiting an exempt app). However, ever since I removed PiDirect II, I haven't had those issues. I use switch dash because many of my low-res apps are on the card and not in ram, making hi-res assist useless.

Try going back to PiDirect II 2.0. Version 2.2 handles some system calls differently and doesn't work right with SwitchDash. There is no significant difference between 2.0 and 2.2.

[SamuraiCatJB]

Originally posted by bobbd

On my T665 it seems to run okay under B6.2. Turning over the cards is a bit slow, but not horribly, takes about a second per card, but drag and drop is fine.

Bob

mine takes about 2 to 3 seconds per card, on an NR70.... I am trying to go through everything one at a time to see.... it may not be zlauncher.... because of the quicklaunch hack, I loaded Xmaster, quicklaunch hack and the new zlauncher B6 (had B4) when the issue comes up.... nothing else seems slowed down... I am running movies that seem fine, chess seems fine, I removed all my old games, so I don't have too many animated items.... I turned of quicklaunch, still same, turned off grafitti anywhere (which hadn't caused a problem, but that was the last thing added before I started the beta zlaunchers, so I thought it worth a try)....

It had been working fine till I moved it to the MS, but even after I restored it, it still ran slow.... I am confused.... I went back to the palm launcher and its still the same.... I am about ready to reload the prc file in case the program was corrupted or something... I cannot find the reason for the slow down....

[Brownster]

I just downloaded ZL from PalmGear and got version 3.50B6.2

Wonder what was fixed?

Jim

[tanker_bob]

From ZZTechs:
"It fixed a bug of "Update All ShortCuts" and a bug of renaming Icon Name. It also improved the handling of 0x2A08 error. If you have encountered above problmes, I recommend you upgrade to B6.2."

[p0kem0n383]

I loaded B6.2 last night and all seems to work OK on my T625c OS4.1. The only thing I've noticed is when I delete a shortcut application ie - tap on the icon and delete it, it deletes everything to do with the app except the .prc file contained in ZL/programs/apps/...
Does anyone know if this is a feature or a problem? As I then have to go to the file manager and manually delete the .prc file and folder.

Thanks
Paul

[p0kem0n383]

Originally posted by rldunn
Go to Menu-Tab, and make a new tab. From preset, choose DA. Then your DA's will show up in this tab. Then just drag them to the QL arrow on the gadget bar.

I would recommend getting SelectDA if you don't already have it, and drag that only to the QL list. Then when you select SelectDA, it pops up a list of all DAs, so you don't have to waste room for all your DAs in the QL list.


Just found and installed SelectDA - it works well with quicklaunch and I've been able to delete the DAlauncher I was using.

Many Thanks for the recommendation
Paul

[rldunn]

Originally posted by p0kem0n383
I loaded B6.2 last night and all seems to work OK on my T625c OS4.1. The only thing I've noticed is when I delete a shortcut application ie - tap on the icon and delete it, it deletes everything to do with the app except the .prc file contained in ZL/programs/apps/...
Does anyone know if this is a feature or a problem? As I then have to go to the file manager and manually delete the .prc file and folder.

Thanks
Paul I don't know that it's a feature OR a problem. When you're deleting the shortcut, the shortcut itself is the main app and it's databases are the associated apps. The main PRC file is neither. Of course, it would be nice if it cleaned up everything for you, but then again, many times I've just wanted to delete the shortcut and NOT have the main app get deleted, so I don't know how to resolve those two different situations.

When I want to delete something that I've created a shortcut for, I always move it back to RAM first, then delete, and it's gone very smoothly.

[rldunn]

Originally posted by Tixx


Yea, that is what I mean. I can see the ZL/Apps folder itself, but not the game I placed within it in either that specific ZL interface or McFile. Does that happen only with that one specific game, or every app? If you move it back to RAM, then use T&H to move it back to /ZL/Apps, does it still behave the same way?

[lal2707]

I am using ZL b6.2 and am still having problems with the Unfiled category. Appls/shortcuts keep appearing under this TAB even though I have moved all out to others. A few minutes I run another appl MSBackup and on exit, when I look at the Unfiled TAB I see appls have appeared there again. The appls appearing could be any and have included Clie Files, MSImport, DTG appls etc.

Has anyone else got this?

Thanks

[p0kem0n383]

Originally posted by rldunn
I don't know that it's a feature OR a problem. When you're deleting the shortcut, the shortcut itself is the main app and it's databases are the associated apps. The main PRC file is neither. Of course, it would be nice if it cleaned up everything for you, but then again, many times I've just wanted to delete the shortcut and NOT have the main app get deleted, so I don't know how to resolve those two different situations.

When I want to delete something that I've created a shortcut for, I always move it back to RAM first, then delete, and it's gone very smoothly.

Good Point.
I've not yet needed to delete just a shortcut, but I can see why one would not want to delete everything in one go. I'll move them back into RAM from now on.

Thanks
Paul

[rldunn]

Originally posted by lal2707
I am using ZL b6.2 and am still having problems with the Unfiled category. Appls/shortcuts keep appearing under this TAB even though I have moved all out to others. A few minutes I run another appl MSBackup and on exit, when I look at the Unfiled TAB I see appls have appeared there again. The appls appearing could be any and have included Clie Files, MSImport, DTG appls etc.

Has anyone else got this?

Thanks Are you by chance periodically going to Category setup and choosing 'Clear ZLDB orphaned records'?

If not, there's a few other possibilities. Clie Files is stored in ROM, but there's also an update that needs to be stored in RAM or on the MS using shortcuts. So, if you've categorized the updated ClieFiles, the ROM version will still show up as well and need to be categorized. Go to Icon Setup and turn on the ROM tags so that you can see whether you're dealing with the ROM or RAM version.

For DTG, I'm not sure how you're running it, but Word2Go and Sheet2Go need to go in the /Palm/Launcher folder if you want them on the card. If you put them in the /ZL/Apps folder, along with the main DTG app, they may be getting copied to RAM and left there, which could explain the duplicate icons. But check the file manager to verify that there are copies that are actually in RAM when you weren't expecting them.

I'm not sure what's going on with MSImport. It's in ROM, so if you've categorized it, it should be sticking.

[volcanopele]

I know b7.1 is now out which I am told solves my hotsync issue but I think I found a solution on my own. If I set YAHM to turn off hacks during hotsync, the capture works as it should after a hotsync. If the hack is on during hotsync it is reset to its built-in function.

[na2rboy]

A couple of questions about Zlauncher:

I have Acidimage and have enabled it's support in zlauncher. I moved Acidimage to memory stick with zlauncher, and now when I try to launch images, the screen goes white as if it is trying to start Acidimage, then it just goes right back to zlauncher. Do I just need to keep Acidimage in RAM instead of on the card?


In LauncherX, I could make a Hack tab and when I tapped a hack, it would launch my default hack manager (X-Master). In Zlauncher I can make the Hack tab, but tapping on the icons of the hacks doesn't do anything. Anyway to have it launch X-Master as in LauncherX?

TIA :D

[volcanopele]

Originally posted by na2rboy
A couple of questions about Zlauncher:

I have Acidimage and have enabled it's support in zlauncher. I moved Acidimage to memory stick with zlauncher, and now when I try to launch images, the screen goes white as if it is trying to start Acidimage, then it just goes right back to zlauncher. Do I just need to keep Acidimage in RAM instead of on the card?


In LauncherX, I could make a Hack tab and when I tapped a hack, it would launch my default hack manager (X-Master). In Zlauncher I can make the Hack tab, but tapping on the icons of the hacks doesn't do anything. Anyway to have it launch X-Master as in LauncherX?

TIA :D 1) Yes, AcidImage has be in RAM or Flash ROM to work with ZLauncher's AcidImage support.
2) Currently, all a hack tab does is allow you to delete a hack using ZLauncher's UI. It does not open a default hackmanager. However, that is a good feature request and I would recommend sending that to ZZTechs.

Jason

[Tixx]

Originally posted by rldunn
Does that happen only with that one specific game, or every app? If you move it back to RAM, then use T&H to move it back to /ZL/Apps, does it still behave the same way?

I'll try some more apps as this is only the first one I did. It is the same so far with B7.1. I did the move to ram and then back and nothing changed:(

[Tixx]

Originally posted by Tixx


I'll try some more apps as this is only the first one I did. It is the same so far with B7.1. I did the move to ram and then back and nothing changed:(

Put IconManager in there and the same result as BeBop:confused:

[Tixx]

Originally posted by rldunn
Does that happen only with that one specific game, or every app? If you move it back to RAM, then use T&H to move it back to /ZL/Apps, does it still behave the same way?

I guess that you would have IconManager too. Can you see yours if in that folder using the T&H to the ZL/App Folder?

[pollyg]

Well I just deleted Zlauncher. I liked the look of it and the cute logos on the tabs, but the action between my MS and it just was not happening, I find the build in management system to be easier and works better. Also, I am always on the edge of my memory capacity and this was just using too much for what I was getting out of it.

[sebring]

Originally posted by pollyg
Well I just deleted Zlauncher. I liked the look of it and the cute logos on the tabs, but the action between my MS and it just was not happening, I find the build in management system to be easier and works better. Also, I am always on the edge of my memory capacity and this was just using too much for what I was getting out of it.

Sorry to hear you were dissatisfied. With the latest beta version of ZLauncher, I have been able to move enough apps and DBs to MS, that couldn't previously be fun from MS, to more than offset the RAM that ZLauncher itself occupies. For me, the space ZLauncher occupies in RAM has become a non-issue.

The bottom line, however, is we all should use what best meets our needs.:)

[volcanopele]

Originally posted by pollyg
Well I just deleted Zlauncher. I liked the look of it and the cute logos on the tabs, but the action between my MS and it just was not happening, I find the build in management system to be easier and works better. Also, I am always on the edge of my memory capacity and this was just using too much for what I was getting out of it. Sorry ZL didn't work out for you but one thing to think about is that with the number of options for having apps on the card, I'm sure that it wouldn't be a big deal to get a great deal of the data you have in RAM on the card.

[volcanopele]

Originally posted by pollyg
Well I just deleted Zlauncher. I liked the look of it and the cute logos on the tabs, but the action between my MS and it just was not happening, I find the build in management system to be easier and works better. Also, I am always on the edge of my memory capacity and this was just using too much for what I was getting out of it. Sorry ZL didn't work out for you but one thing to think about is that with the number of options for having apps on the card, I'm sure that it wouldn't be a big deal to get a great deal of the data you have in RAM on the card.

[ncoday]

This bug has existed since 3.2

I insert a memory stick, in my case the 64MB Purple, and use the built-in ZLauncher file manager and go into a directory down the tree.

Next, I exit out of the file manager. I then insert a different memory stick, in my case a 256MB MS Pro, then I click on the File Manager.

If the folder that I was in on the previous MS does not exist on the current MS, then I am completely stuck, no ".." button to navigate up or out.

This happens on a NX70V.

[cbulock]

Originally posted by ncoday
This bug has existed since 3.2

I insert a memory stick, in my case the 64MB Purple, and use the built-in ZLauncher file manager and go into a directory down the tree.

Next, I exit out of the file manager. I then insert a different memory stick, in my case a 256MB MS Pro, then I click on the File Manager.

If the folder that I was in on the previous MS does not exist on the current MS, then I am completely stuck, no ".." button to navigate up or out.

This happens on a NX70V.

Have you e-mailed ZZTechs (zlauncher@zztechs.com)? If they know of a bug, it's usually fixed within days if not hours.

[sebring]

Originally posted by ncoday
This bug has existed since 3.2

I insert a memory stick, in my case the 64MB Purple, and use the built-in ZLauncher file manager and go into a directory down the tree.

Next, I exit out of the file manager. I then insert a different memory stick, in my case a 256MB MS Pro, then I click on the File Manager.

If the folder that I was in on the previous MS does not exist on the current MS, then I am completely stuck, no ".." button to navigate up or out.

This happens on a NX70V.

Curious, what happens if you take the new stick out and put the old one back in, the one that does have the directory in question?

[Mr Sheen]

Originally posted by volcanopele
1) Yes, AcidImage has be in RAM or Flash ROM to work with ZLauncher's AcidImage support.


I beg to disagree. I have AcidImage on my MS and if I click on a pic ZL opens AI and display the pic. Clie NR70V

Sheen

[lal2707]

Originally posted by rldunn
Are you by chance periodically going to Category setup and choosing 'Clear ZLDB orphaned records'?

If not, there's a few other possibilities. Clie Files is stored in ROM, but there's also an update that needs to be stored in RAM or on the MS using shortcuts. So, if you've categorized the updated ClieFiles, the ROM version will still show up as well and need to be categorized. Go to Icon Setup and turn on the ROM tags so that you can see whether you're dealing with the ROM or RAM version.

For DTG, I'm not sure how you're running it, but Word2Go and Sheet2Go need to go in the /Palm/Launcher folder if you want them on the card. If you put them in the /ZL/Apps folder, along with the main DTG app, they may be getting copied to RAM and left there, which could explain the duplicate icons. But check the file manager to verify that there are copies that are actually in RAM when you weren't expecting them.

I'm not sure what's going on with MSImport. It's in ROM, so if you've categorized it, it should be sticking.

No I am selecting the clear the Orphans option. I already have the ROM option set up in Icon Setup. I am running all DTG appls from RAM/Flash and not from the MS. There are no DTG appls or Clie files or MSImport under the ZL Apps folder.Strange things are happening when I do the Reset APPLs or Update Shortcuts option

[lal2707]

BTW I did send details of problem to ZZTechs but no feedback yet - hopefully soon

[n2ifp]

Originally posted by Mr Sheen


I beg to disagree. I have AcidImage on my MS and if I click on a pic ZL opens AI and display the pic. Clie NR70V

Sheen

You don't have to beg, ha-ha! I agree that it works for me too with AI on the MS in the Plam-Launcher folder on my NX70 :)