View Full Version : NX73 CF driver can be used on NX70
caohotcool
06-13-2003, 09:55 AM
NX73 is available in Japan and HongKong. Someone already exported CF driver from NX73 and put it on the NX70. It works. The CF card can be recognized by some launchers and applications. However the sony applications (MP3 player, movie player...) don't recognize it as sony said.
I am a registered user of eruware CF drives. I love eru CF dirvers because it supports MP3 and movie players. I am wondering what sony would do for CF driver next.
According some testers, following applications on NX70 can recognize CF with NX73 CF driver.
McFile: 2.2 b1
ISILO
ComicGURU
acidimage
kinoma
have you tried that driver yet? is it possible to share with us?
caohotcool
06-13-2003, 10:57 AM
My friend just sent Sony NX73 CF driver to me. I am afraid it would have some conflicts with ERU CF driver so I don't want to try it now.
I am wondering if it's OK if I upload it here. It's about 26K.
@caohotcool
there is a tiny small pm i sent to you. anyway good news to hear the nx73 driver worx on the nx70!
watoke
06-13-2003, 11:10 AM
Yes, please, or you might want to email it to me at watoke@hotmail.com. :)
TIA
Shiryu
06-13-2003, 11:11 AM
Have tried this driver already. 2 files included, CFSlot, CFStorageLib. It works on CLIEFile, but the access speed is too slow on my PRETEC 1G CF! Maybe smaller card will have batter performance. But, no native software support is really useless for most of people who want to use CF. So far, Eura driver still rule the slot! My test envirorment: NX70V/J with 128 Apacer MS and 1G PRETEC CF.
Note: these 2 files may not be able to delete if you regrade and want to uninstall it. Backup your current data files before you install this driver.
gagged
06-13-2003, 11:52 AM
that's right, the only real reason we need cf is for movies and mp3s, so if we can't use them with the sony driver, it's useless. :(
ricleo
06-13-2003, 12:10 PM
at least it works? so that means the ERUware driver will work in the new NXes ;)
ricleo
06-13-2003, 12:12 PM
Hey gagged, you are from Singapore too eh? Part of the working population? Or a student like me?
jarodcool
06-13-2003, 01:17 PM
Just tried the NX73 CF driver on NX70V. If both MS and CF are inserted in the NX70 the MS Import cannot connect to the PC. If only the CF is inserted, the MS Import work but the PC cannot recognize the CF as a removable drive.
Also the transfer speed is too slow, it took 21 sec to copy a 4MB file from MS to CF.
I think with the NX73 CF driver, it would also be best if you use with the Data Import/Export that comes bundled with the NX73 CD-ROM.
As with multi-media data, (eg. MP3 player, movie player...) it's quite obvious that Sony has reserved that part to be used with their MS Pro Memory Sticks. :)
But something nice to know about this new CF Driver from the NX73. What about other files such as the DECUMA input? Can anybody get access to that, as I use a Japanese OS NX70, could surely use a helping hand if someone's got connection with an NX73. I'm waiting on my PM. :)
Thank you so much caohotcool for filling us in on the info regarding to the software differences between the NX73 & NX70! :D Eddy
id like to thank caohotcool as well. now we know the one worx on the nx too. i also think this step of sony will hopefully lead to more software which supports the cf slot. its always in the beginning that some new features take a while to be supported by software developers (4 example the sony hires+ screen).
gagged
06-13-2003, 08:26 PM
Originally posted by ricleo
Hey gagged, you are from Singapore too eh? Part of the working population? Or a student like me?
yo! i'm a student. just ord in may, going nus soon. i'm doing computing. :D how about you?
ricleo
06-13-2003, 08:46 PM
I'm currently in NTU accountancy. Wow! Does the SAF pay you that much? How did you manage to afford a NX with the pathetic NS allowance? How much did you pay for yours?
stevec_ny
06-13-2003, 08:57 PM
Anyone try the reverse, Eruware driver on NX73? :D
gagged
06-13-2003, 09:14 PM
saf increased our wages last year, so i got about S$600 a month. i bought my nx before any price drop, so i paid S$1008. i just had to save up a few months, you don't really spend much while in the army. but now that i'm out, don't think i will be able to afford such expensive gadgetry, probably upgrade in two years' time. :(
cmnyw
06-14-2003, 03:00 AM
It is not worth to install the NX73 CF Driver if you already bought the Eruware CF driver!
NX73 CF DRIVER only support the following
CLIE Launcher
Dictionary (Japanese version)
CLIE Files ver.1.1
Data Import ver.1.0
Picsel Viewer for CLIE ver.1.0
CLIE Mail ver.2.1
NetFront v3.0 for CLIE
PooK ver.2.0
Macromedia Flash Player5 ver.5.0
PC / Data Export ver.1.0
Eruware CF driver atleaset can support MP3 & movie under the MS MAsquerading mode.
BTW, anyone want to try it, please remember back up all your data first!
is there a bluetooth cf card? is there a cf driver for it? tnx in advance
ccelada
06-14-2003, 09:04 AM
So is there anywhere we can find these NX73 drivers, just to try them?... I also use Eruware's driver, but would like to compare by myself... (or if anyone is kind enough to send them, ceceladac@hotmail.com)
n2ifp
06-14-2003, 10:02 AM
Originally posted by ccelada
So is there anywhere we can find these NX73 drivers, just to try them?... I also use Eruware's driver, but would like to compare by myself... (or if anyone is kind enough to send them, ceceladac@hotmail.com)
If you install the Sony driver, it might be difficult to remove it. If you have the EruWare driver, your not missing a thing!
Stronger Shen
06-14-2003, 10:29 AM
Originally posted by robi
is there a bluetooth cf card? is there a cf driver for it? tnx in advance
Yes, I found it in Taiwan 3 months ago.
And I tested the CF's BT card inserted into my Clie NX-70V's CF slot, and my NX70V installed BT driver released by Sony.
I can hear du-du- sound(NX70V find new device), but select Prefs->Bluetooth I try to Enable Bluetooth. My NX70V response No Bluetooth accessory was found...
because the Sony's driver is for MS Bluetooth card only.
and I can not find out the CF's BT driver for NX70V yet.
The NX73 driver is only good for testing with on NX70V but if you're serious about using CF Card on NX then Eruware.
& as n2ifp mentioned above, the 2 files goes into the Flash ROM therefore you'd need to either a hard-reset/ or JackFlash inorder to delete it.:D
looking at what were said here it seems that the new NX73V driver is REALLY slow...
but how about the stability? i'm using the Eruware driver but always feeling that stability should be much improved... so just curious about the stability of the driver...
when i do mp3 playback on my CF, file transfer between MS and CF becomes impossible as the playback messes up, and only loud noises are reproduced... :(
well, put aside the slow issue.
Sony has manufactured this particular CF Driver to accomodate their very own NX73, I'd say that it would be very stable alright. (thus only to allow the storage of data content other than multi-media related). eg. No MP3s, movie recording/playback from & to the Compact Flash Card. This was part of the specs of the new NXs with Compact Flash expansion abilities.
This would be the same as having the Eruware driver mounted without MS Masquerading. Wouldn't it? :p Then that wouldn't be any problem at all with stability issues.
I too have to figure out ways to work around while using the Eruware driver, but give and take, since you can gain direct access to media files right off the CF. :)
mp3 issues
I don't think the Clie itself can't supply enough power nor speed to support MP3 playback with file transfering behind it. :)
n2ifp
06-14-2003, 11:58 PM
Originally posted by Eddy
well, put aside the slow issue.
Sony has manufactured this particular CF Driver to accomodate their very own NX73, I'd say that it would be very stable alright. (thus only to allow the storage of data content other than multi-media related). eg. No MP3s, movie recording/playback from & to the Compact Flash Card. This was part of the specs of the new NXs with Compact Flash expansion abilities.
Right!
This would be the same as having the Eruware driver mounted without MS Masquerading. Wouldn't it? :p Then that wouldn't be any problem at all with stability issues.
Right again :)
I too have to figure out ways to work around while using the Eruware driver, but give and take, since you can gain direct access to media files right off the CF. :)
mp3 issues
I don't think the Clie itself can't supply enough power nor speed to support MP3 playback with file transfering behind it. :)
ashVID
06-15-2003, 03:18 AM
I am willing to bet that the Sony CF driver is intentionally slow to prevent a hack from allowing it to access movie and MP3 files. Even if someone could write such a hack the driver itself would not allow a high enough data rate to actually play a movie or MP3...
ash =o)
KenSong
06-15-2003, 04:31 AM
Originally posted by ashVID
I am willing to bet that the Sony CF driver is intentionally slow to prevent a hack from allowing it to access movie and MP3 files. Even if someone could write such a hack the driver itself would not allow a high enough data rate to actually play a movie or MP3...
ash =o)
Or to give MS/MSPro the speed advantage over the CF. It would be embarassing to Sony if CF is faster on a Clie though MS is the native storage media ;-P I think that's it till Clies can take advantage of the MSPro's native transfer speed.
n2ifp
06-15-2003, 04:51 AM
Originally posted by KenSong
Or to give MS/MSPro the speed advantage over the CF. It would be embarassing to Sony if CF is faster on a Clie though MS is the native storage media ;-P I think that's it till Clies can take advantage of the MSPro's native transfer speed.
Even Sony's new digital USB2 cameras don't fully utilize the MS Pro's capabilities. Partially I think for compatibility with the purple sticks.
ccelada
06-15-2003, 12:32 PM
Originally posted by n2ifp
If you install the Sony driver, it might be difficult to remove it. If you have the EruWare driver, your not missing a thing!
Yes, it might be difficult to remove... but not impossible, since it would be in RAM. And, anyway... I'd like to try it. I'd also like to try the new Data Import program
What I'd like is the Decuma program instead! That would go smoothly with my Jap OS... heheh :D
Unregistered
06-15-2003, 09:01 PM
Originally posted by ashVID
I am willing to bet that the Sony CF driver is intentionally slow to prevent a hack from allowing it to access movie and MP3 files. Even if someone could write such a hack the driver itself would not allow a high enough data rate to actually play a movie or MP3...
ash =o)
Well said,. and given Sony's history, I wouldn't be surprised if they included their crippled CF driver just so it'll conflict with Eruware's CF drivers. ;-)
berliner
06-19-2003, 06:48 AM
Does anyone know if the CF slot on the new NX's can be closed with a CF memory card installed? If not, having that retractable slot would be useless if you always have a CF card in there?
n2ifp
06-19-2003, 06:51 AM
Originally posted by berliner
Does anyone know if the CF slot on the new NX's can be closed with a CF memory card installed? If not, having that retractable slot would be useless if you always have a CF card in there?
Several have asked the same question. From what I have been told by several users is no. You can only close it when no card resides in the slot, sorry.
NX73/80 CF slot cannot close & that's a fact already. The retractable is for those who aren't using the WiFi nor CF cards. (enhancing the outlook style & decepting thinner size).
I've read many of the Japanese dicussion forums already & that's the answer. :)
n2ifp
06-19-2003, 06:12 PM
Eddy,
You can read Japanese?
hansschmucker
06-19-2003, 06:24 PM
Since we have some users here who already own a NX73... Could you send me an image of you ROM? Well, not actually an image but the individual files. Just copy them to the MemoryStick using either Filez (Enable the ROM checkbox) or the ZLauncher filemanager (There's a selection dialog where you can choose RAM, ROM or Both), ZIP them and send them to me ( hansschmucker@e-garfield.com ) so I can upload them at http://hansschmucker.free.fr , so we can all have a go at finding out what works and what doesn't.
Originally posted by n2ifp
You can read Japanese?
Yes, Larry. Read & write, conversation...., not an expert but good enough to figure my way around. :D
I sometimes use BableFish translator to read intense pages though. :p
Originally posted by hanssshmucker[/i]
Since we have some users here who already own a NX73... Could you send me an image of you ROM? Well, not actually an image but the individual files.
That would be great if somebody can do that, & individual files would be a fantastic idea! I might find files that can make my NX70 go truely native. :D
wr6969
06-20-2003, 01:46 AM
I've got the Japanese .prc files. I think there are 4 of them. I'm still looking for the English version, coz I can't understand Japanese!
You'd have to install them onto your MS card first, then do a soft-reset and voila, I've tested it on an old Casio OEM 8Mb CF and the device could see it. But I haven't tried anything other than that like copy/move files, open files on the card using any programs etc...because I don't yet read/understand Japanese!
I installed these on my NZ90 by the way...
PM or email me if you want copies of these drivers...
n2ifp
06-20-2003, 03:47 AM
Originally posted by Eddy
Yes, Larry. Read & write, conversation...., not an expert but good enough to figure my way around. :D
I sometimes use BableFish translator to read intense pages though. :p
Never quite understood the Japanese language with what seems like a plethora of complex symbols. How does one remember all of them, let alone write them?
We need to wait a while longer for the English version to come out.
If some want to add the NX73 CF drivers to their NX70/60 Clie, they will be disappointed with the results over the EruWare driver. Not only that, you will need to do a hard reset to get rid of it.
n2ifp
06-20-2003, 03:53 AM
Originally posted by wr6969
I've got the Japanese .prc files. I think there are 4 of them. I'm still looking for the English version, coz I can't understand Japanese!
You'd have to install them onto your MS card first, then do a soft-reset and voila, I've tested it on an old Casio OEM 8Mb CF and the device could see it. But I haven't tried anything other than that like copy/move files, open files on the card using any programs etc...because I don't yet read/understand Japanese!
I installed these on my NZ90 by the way...
PM or email me if you want copies of these drivers...
He-he, how is someone going to do that when your not logged in??
Additionally, I know that you do not know what your talking about. There are several clues that give it away :)
because I don't yet read/understand Japanese!
I installed these on my NZ90 by the way...
PM or email me if you want copies of these drivers...
OK... well, I do understand Japanese, so now just let me click the PM button if I can find it... :D
What files did you have to install on NZ that the NZ didn't already have???? clues given away????
Originally posted by n2ifp
Never quite understood the Japanese language with what seems like a plethora of complex symbols. How does one remember all of them, let alone write them?
Well, you would one way or the other get the hang of it... :D
If you thought Japanese was difficult, try Chinese, now there's nothing that you can really relate those complex characters with English, no commonalities at all. :p
n2ifp
06-21-2003, 05:42 AM
Originally posted by Eddy
OK... well, I do understand Japanese, so now just let me click the PM button if I can find it... :D
What files did you have to install on NZ that the NZ didn't already have???? clues given away????
Well, you would one way or the other get the hang of it... :D
If you thought Japanese was difficult, try Chinese, now there's nothing that you can really relate those complex characters with English, no commonalities at all. :p
Okay, I suppose what my query was, is it any harder to write than using English? Faster/Slower, just curious, Thanks!
wr6969
06-21-2003, 06:08 AM
Good points, Larry and Eddy :D
It appears that I had blocked cookies from this site, so everytime I tried to update my profile, it didn't work.
Anyway, I've now updated my profile, so let's see if this post reflects that. I checked my earlier post, and it doesn't show those icons like "Profile", etc.
Apologies for that oversight.
If you still need those files, you can get them from www.tompda.com, it's a Chinese site, so you'd either have to use Babelfish or Systran to translate it and look for the thread.
Larry, I'm a bit of a newbie with the Clie, so mind sharing with me what you meant when you say "Additionally, I know that you do not know what your talking about. There are several clues that give it away"? :)
n2ifp
06-21-2003, 06:23 AM
n2ifp
06-21-2003, 06:33 AM
Originally posted by wr6969
Good points, Larry and Eddy :D
It appears that I had blocked cookies from this site, so everytime I tried to update my profile, it didn't work.
Anyway, I've now updated my profile, so let's see if this post reflects that. I checked my earlier post, and it doesn't show those icons like "Profile", etc.
Apologies for that oversight.
If you still need those files, you can get them from www.tompda.com, it's a Chinese site, so you'd either have to use Babelfish or Systran to translate it and look for the thread.
Larry, I'm a bit of a newbie with the Clie, so mind sharing with me what you meant when you say "Additionally, I know that you do not know what your talking about. There are several clues that give it away"? :)
Oops! Clicked on the wrong button :)
Sorry, I just presumed it was just another wise guy post that was unregistered. I already have those drivers, so I know how many files are really needed. Some come on the forums pretending to know more that they do and just troll. Since I am a beta tester for the current CF drivers, it would be a conflict for me to distribute them to others. I don't want to jeopordize my relationship with EruWare.
The Sony driver is very basic and doesn't support it's own built-in multi-media apps, which for the most part the EruWare one does.
The hosts of ClieSource also frown and police against any sharing of copy-righted material that could be construed as being illegal. Many developers watch this site very closely and will complain to the host.
I purposely stayed vague for a reason. I hope this clears things up a bit for you and welcome to the world of Palm :)!
clicked on the wrong button
:D??????:D
that's what I was wondering...
originally posted by Larry
I suppose what my query was, is it any harder to write than using English? Faster/Slower, just curious, Thanks!
It's the same to me, you can switch between Japanese/English next to the Graffiti area, then you just write in English strokes (the pronounciation of the word in Japanese) and it generates the fonts automatically on the CLIE.
n2ifp
06-21-2003, 08:11 AM
Originally posted by Eddy
It's the same to me, you can switch between Japanese/English next to the Graffiti area, then you just write in English strokes (the pronounciation of the word in Japanese) and it generates the fonts automatically on the CLIE.
Very good and Thanks! Sort of like Bable Fish in reverse.
wr6969
06-21-2003, 10:49 AM
Originally posted by n2ifp
Oops! Clicked on the wrong button :)
Sorry, I just presumed it was just another wise guy post that was unregistered. I already have those drivers, so I know how many files are really needed. Some come on the forums pretending to know more that they do and just troll. Since I am a beta tester for the current CF drivers, it would be a conflict for me to distribute them to others. I don't want to jeopordize my relationship with EruWare.
The Sony driver is very basic and doesn't support it's own built-in multi-media apps, which for the most part the EruWare one does.
The hosts of ClieSource also frown and police against any sharing of copy-righted material that could be construed as being illegal. Many developers watch this site very closely and will complain to the host.
I purposely stayed vague for a reason. I hope this clears things up a bit for you and welcome to the world of Palm :)!
Thanks for the clarification, Larry! :) . Like you, I do not engage in the open distribution of the materials you spoke of in any way. I was not referring to the Eruware drivers, but to the drivers extracted from the NX73's ROM by some people who already have the device.
Thanks for the welcome!
don't you just love happy endings.... :D
n2ifp
06-21-2003, 09:50 PM
Originally posted by Eddy
don't you just love happy endings.... :D
Aw shucks, it didn't make you cry :o
LOL well, I couldn't find an icon with tears.... :p
lostether
06-22-2003, 03:50 AM
I've been using the nx73 cf drivers for a few days now. I haven't experienced the slow transfer speeds people talk about, but there are so many cf cards and they very so widely as far as speed goes. I've been using a 64 meg Viking cf card I had laying around for testing and it actually works fine. Granted it's not as fast as my memory sticks but I've never felt cf is that fast anyway, not nearly as fast as sd. Soon I will start using a 256 cf card I just located under a pile of stuff on my desk and it will be interesting to see if there is a big difference.
ClieFiles doesn't work that great, especially if you try to copy from one directory on the MS to an identically named directory on the CF, it simply doesn't make the distinction between the two cards and thinks you are trying to copy to the same directory. FileZ works perfectly, and of course is free.
I've been able to run any third party application from the CF that will run from MS. Kind of nice, especially when you have large game files, such as the Sega games where every game you load comes with yet another copy of the emulator. ComicGuru files tend to be large and they run fine from the CF. Isilo recognizes it and that is nice. I have heard Acid Image also works, and since each photo I take is around 500k, and I like to have access to a large library of photos at any given time, this might be just the thing.
I have an NZ90 and I don't need the BT MS, so once I move the large files such as games and certain documents off my memory stick, I have planty of extra room to shoot video and take plenty of photos without having to worry about free space. If I want to watch movies or maybe an episode of Dilbert, well, I have the extra memory sticks for that and if I have the time to watch a half hour or so of video I should have the time to swap out the MS.
Although I don't think these drivers are particularly great they are useful and free, and that is important, considering you can invest an awful lot in software, and that software can quickly become useless when you upgrade your device. Anyway, the drivers work for me, once you get beyond their limitations they seem to be bulletproof, conflicting with nothing and always working exactly how (or how little) you expect them to.
lostether very nice going there with the NX73 Driver, glad you're happy with it. starting to get me thinking about it.... :D
n2ifp
06-22-2003, 06:34 AM
Originally posted by Eddy
lostether very nice going there with the NX73 Driver, glad you're happy with it. starting to get me thinking about it.... :D
Stop! No more thinking, please :D!
Remember the Sony driver does not support any of it's multi-media apps.
It looks like the same issues with Clie Files still exists :eek::confused:
Originally by n2ifp
Stop! No more thinking, please ! :D
Remember the Sony driver does not support any of it's multi-media apps. It looks like the same issues with Clie Files still exists
err.... wait.... I concur! :D
1) It should be.... "Stop! No more posting, please!" :D
2) Yes, I didn't forget about the multi-media stuffs... :)
3) ClieFiles issues with Eruware's driver???? :(
palo1
06-22-2003, 12:03 PM
Irregardless of its limitations its a free way to make use of the CF slot - I'm glad I got EW's driver but if I didn't have the money to spend or if I had little use for the extras offered by EW's driver, then this would be the route to go
I see it as a viable alternative
p
jackho
06-22-2003, 12:32 PM
I've registered Eruwave driver, but now I'm using Sony one. This is because I want to use DataImport for CF and I have a 512MB MS Pro.
Of course, Eruware driver is really a great product with many functions. I like Dual MS function most. But supports for video should be better to make the driver complete.
I hope Eruware can provide a new stable version which can support fully CLIE applications (especially MoviePlayer) and support Sony's DataImport (w/o Sony's driver). Then I think that is the best product that I ever saw.
Now, I'm waiting for the new version (not 1.2 official) of Eruware CF driver...
CliePet
06-22-2003, 04:14 PM
Originally posted by lostether
I've been using the nx73 cf drivers for a few days now. I haven't experienced the slow transfer speeds people talk about,
I think the rumored 'slow speed' may have just been FUD.
Nobody posted measurements to back up the claim.
I ran my own measurements doing a head-to-head comparison.
Thanks to you-know-who for posting the link to the you-know-what ;->
My conclusion is the Sony NX73 driver is much faster than the Eruware driver !
See separate post for numbers.
http://www.cliesource.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=18231
Ezikial Anta
06-22-2003, 05:30 PM
Is it possible to use the NX73 Driver for the NX60?
Also, where can i get it, and not only that, but is there a version that is english? I would get the EruWare CF Driver, but i dont have a credit card for online, so this might just be easier for me to do than that.
jackho
06-22-2003, 10:13 PM
Yes, it can run on all NX and NZ series. For English version, you need to rip it from English version NX73/80.
But I have to mention that (igrone the speed), Sony CF driver doesn't support any CLIE multi-media applications, it just a storage driver. If you haven't a large enough MSPro, then most of CLIE softwares are useless. If you need mutli-media on CF, then Eruware is your only choice.
yep, that's why jackho here has a 512MS PRO, he certainly has a point for setting the drivers to work as the way they are, & use the big 512MS to store Media related applications instead. This is again of personal preferences. :)
CliePet
06-23-2003, 11:11 AM
>> Is it possible to use the NX73 Driver for the NX60?
> Yes, it can run on all NX and NZ series.
> For English version, you need to rip it from English version NX73/80.
Not necessary. The Japanese driver works great on an English CLIE.
The driver itself doesn't have any user interface, so you don't see any Japanese text.
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> Also, where can i get it
Check earlier in this thread. The instructions where to find it were left intentionally vague.
Disclaimer: It is a grey area of legality. Strictly speaking, it is piracy since the software is copyrighted and not authorized for use in anything except the NX73/80. Some people expect operating system upgrades and drivers to be free. Use as you see fit (based on your technical and moral attitude).
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> Sony CF driver doesn't support any CLIE multi-media applications, it just a storage driver....
That assumes the Sony CF driver can not be hacked to 'masquerade' and look more like a memory stick.
Perhaps by just changing 4 bytes...
Sometimes being 'just a storage driver' isn't that bad ;->
jackho
06-23-2003, 12:09 PM
> Sometimes being 'just a storage driver' isn't that bad ;->
Yes, I think so. But if you see people here, all of them are asking for using CF in CLIE applications (MP3, photos and video).
frasej
06-26-2003, 08:05 PM
Still can't find the correct drivers to try. Can someone PM me with a location to get them?
*YellowRose*
06-26-2003, 09:19 PM
Originally posted by frasej
Still can't find the correct drivers to try. Can someone PM me with a location to get them? See this thread: http://www.cliesource.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=18328
frasej
06-26-2003, 10:09 PM
Originally posted by *YellowRose*
See this thread: http://www.cliesource.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=18328
Wha, thank ya ma'm.
skorpiankh
06-28-2003, 03:51 PM
I still don't get all the fuss. I use the Eurware driver with a 1 gig Viking card in MC Cloaking mode and could care less if I buy another mem stick again. mp3's work fine, HQ movies are fine now that we have the mpg1 settings and I run all my games and most other apps from the card using powerrun. Everyone save yourself the frustration of $ony's driver and the money of buying MS pro.
banjo
06-28-2003, 05:33 PM
My tuppence ha'penny's worth:
I've been using the CF drivers for a while now (thank you CliePet). I have no moral issues about the legality - AFAIC Sony disabled the NX70V CF slot deliberately; and I'm not using commercial software or shareware for free. I use Sonic Stage+ATRAC (max MS size =128 MB & Sony has ruled out MSPro for ATRAC) so the CF driver gives added storage (plus the chance to run a few extra apps) on the CF whilst reserving as much space on my MG MS for 'multimeeja'. Also gives me a chance to read photos straight off my DigiCam via the CF slot.
To me the Eruware driver isn't worth the cost, as I'm not interested in using the CF for music & movies, etc. (which is why I'm only interested in the vanilla CF drivers rather than the 'hack').
Couple of open issues for me:
I have a nagging suspiscion that CFs drain the battery a wee bit, even when idle, but especially when accessing apps or data on the CF. Haven't yet had time to run detailed tests.
The new NX's boast 40% better battery life. Same OS. Mostly the same apps. So, If it is a new battery - can that be obtained (commercially) and installed in the NX70V?
db
fix.bornes
06-29-2003, 04:53 AM
I also suspect the CF cards to drain a lot of battery, even when idle.
So, I have a question : if I uninstall the CF driver (by changing the type of library and soft-resetting like CliePet told us to), will the CF card (if still inserted) continue to drain battery ??
Originally posted by banjo
I have a nagging suspiscion that CFs drain the battery a wee bit, even when idle, but especially when accessing apps or data on the CF. Haven't yet had time to run detailed tests.
That's one thing I realize myself, with the original NX73 driver from SONY, the "battery low warning" appears much earlier, around the 25% remaining stage, then you're unable to access further information from the CF until you get another full charge. This is just the same case when you use a WiFi card.
(This is where Eruware's driver has its' advantage, where you can use the CF until even 10% battery remainning, the CLIE sees the CF as another MS an will not cut off access to the CF even when battery becomes low).
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