NX60 on a plane

[JOELFOLDS]

Anyone know of the policy concerning the ability of using my NX60 on an airplane? The summer is coming and so are my hols :)

I know certain electronic equipment such as mobile phones have to be completely shut off to avoid them interfering with the planes instruments, but does this apply to the clie?

I'll be mainly using it to listen to MP3s on my CF card, and so the Clie will be in hold mode, bu there is always the chance I'll turn it on for a fiddle :D

So anyone?

[mshaf]

never had a problem..they consider it like a laptop...you might want to turn LAN and bluetooth off so you don't interfere though

[RoyoftheRovers]

Never had a problem either.

Only airline I once had a problem was with Emirates who refused to let me use a CD player througout the entire flight! Most airlines don't let you use electronics during take off and landing.

ROTR.

[Ezikial Anta]

Depends on your flight you may want to check the companies policy. Usualy found on their sites or the airport you are leaving from. Never had a problem with any other electronics either.

[MarianoSF]

ROTR :
Emirates just wanted you to purchase the cheap headphones to listen to the in-flight movie. =)

Never had a problem here.



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[michael1960]

On my last LUFTHANSA trip they asked me to switch my NX70 off during take-off and landing, that's all. Personally, I would think that you are not allowed to activate WLAN or Bluetooth during the flight since they might interfere with the aircrafts navigation system.

[JOELFOLDS]

thanks guys, I'll be sure to check before I fly. I think I'm going with Air Transat. Hope there are no problems as I have CF 512MB Card packed with MP3s :D

[RO-Cl]

Almost all domestic US airlines will treat it as a laptop, CD player, etc. - that is, off during taxi , takeoff and departure and off again during approach, landing and taxi.

I have used mine on my own aircraft without any discernable effect on either comm or nav equipment.

But do turn off both Bluetooth and WLAN even during cruise if you have them installed. Though the evidence is sketchy and testing continues, there is some new information that electronics used onboard can cause some problems with both communications and navigation radios. So, it just makes sense to turn off anything emitting - and this is a case where the average flight attendant won't know to ask you/tell you to do so, not realizing what your NX-70 can do.

[muldermx]

whats the problem with cd players anyway?.... i never got that one...

[Spiral]

Cd players are electronics, so they just say no electronics durign takeoff/landing to simplify things, imagine saying turn off all this this this this and this.

Also, is it possible that a radio on a cd player could disrupt the pla ne?

[cum456]

Originally posted by silencer
because they spin the cd very fast, interferences go through the air and cause problems with the hydro-magnetic-gyroscope ;-)


Wow...

[hindu]

I'm an airline pilot for a major airline so here's what you need to know from my perspective:

All of these devices (CD players, cell phones, laptops, etc.) emit Radio Frequency (RF) radiation to some extent and can POTENTIALLY cause problems with the aircrafts navigational (and other electronic) equipment. Trouble is that no one tests these constantly changing devices to see HOW they do or don't affect aircraft systems; so they are all required to be turned off during takeoff and landing where any interference with aircraft systems could be disasterous. The most offensive are cell phones which, altough we know they will often work in the air under the right circumstances (much of what we know about the events of 9/11 came from cell phone calls from the doomed aircraft) emit a whole lot of RF and therefore are banned at all times during flight.

Bottom line: operate your NX (in any mode you like)when "approved electronic devices" are allowed and there should be no problems with the cabin police or safety!

[mshaf]

I was worried that it would interfere with the ship's flux capacitor

[Raybot]

Originally posted by mshaf
I was worried that it would interfere with the ship's flux capacitor

As long as you only turn the NX on when cruising you're fine ... the flux capacitor is pretty immune to interference above 88 miles per hour :D


- Raybot

[n2ifp]

You wouldn't want the CD player to cause a time warp!

[Raybot]

Or time to warp your CD for that matter ...

[hindu]

Flux capacitors are old technology! We don't use that 80's stuff anymore. As for time warps; they are unlikely UNLESS the dilithium crystals start to implode causing a chain reaction which leads to speeds in excess of warp 10....

[big_daddy_mpd]

I like to use the new, photon flux capacitor, it's immune to RF, below or above 88 miles per hour, however, if you look directly at it, you could go blind.

[corrado85]

yea i was using durin a flight to london and this creepy guy told me to either turn the clie off for atleast 1hr or get off the airplane immediately (while we were in the air!)

[JOELFOLDS]

Originally posted by corrado85
yea i was using durin a flight to london and this creepy guy told me to either turn the clie off for atleast 1hr or get off the airplane immediately (while we were in the air!)

haha thats damn funny asking you to exit immediately while you were airbourne :D

Any way thanks for the responses, even one from a pilot himself. :cool:

[Jag]

It really just depends on the airlines and the specific crew. Recently I flew to Phoenix on Delta and no one said a word to me leaving Atlanta (I had a small headset on), but on the return flight (also Delta), they asked me to turn it off.

[Nate1749]

I was recently involved with a mixup at the airport (thought I was a terroist), the 747 plane from Chicago to LA was stalled for 30 minutes because of me; US Air Marshall, FBI, Secret Service, the whole deal... Anyways they didn't say one thing about my NX-70, but since it is a electronic device you are supposed to turn it off during take off and landing. This is (I believe) for fear that if everyone has electronic devices on it could possibly interfere with the communications between the airplane and the tower.

Although as already stated, I'm sure there are some crew members who aren't sure what it is so they might ask you to turn it off. I actually sat next to a guy who had an NX70 (what are the chances) and we chatted about it for a good hour.

-Nate

[qgent]

Maybe it was Superman who asked you to stepout of the plane. wanting to see if he still got it..

[benixau]

hmph! I had this happen - on a QANTAS flight to the UK. I was using a Palm Vx at the time. She asked me to turn it off (during cruise) and i asked why.
She said it could interfere with navigation. I asked her how. It may emit raido frequencies that do that sort of stuff (her words).
I responded: "This device does not emit any radio frequencies at any time unless an external peripheral is attached that initiated a wireless connection"
She went and got the co-pilot to come and have a look (she was confident).
He had a look - and asked me if i could beam one of the games i was playing to him! He said he had a meg or two free on his Vx. I said as long as the IR transmission didnt interfrere with the navigation - we chuckled - i beamed - he played - she went away.
Moral - dont let them boss you around. If you know your ok then question. Also - i do believe that most PDAs have that FCC thing on the back of them - yeah, show em that.

[Trp]

My last 3 flight (or 6, if you count both ways) i have been either using my laptop or clie and not a single word, (some curious looks though) i was using AIR FRANCE

[jbray]

What amuses me the most is that even if you turn the unit off, it's not really off. You turn off the display, but the system is still running. So what's the differance? I read ebooks on my 70v, and they always make me turn it off during takeoff and landing.

[lal2707]

I normally turn if off on landing and taking off - apart from that noone has told me to turn it off or get it off the plane! As far as I am concerned it is no different from a laptop so use same guidelines

[Nate1749]

jbray: are you sure about that? I think the unit really is off, and your doing more than just turning off the display. The reason I say this, is becase if your using the pda and you turn on the hold switch, this will keep the pda on, but turn the display off.

For instance, if your doing a movie recording, and youve just press the hold switch, the display will turn off, but the pda will keep recording. However, if you turn it off during a video recording (by pressing the power button) then the recording will stop all together.

Also when you turn it off and turn it back on, look at the clock; it takes about 1-3 seconds for it to refresh, I would think if it was never actually off then it would not need to be refreshed.... I also find it hard to believe that the pda can be off for over a week, I can turn it on and the battery level is still the same; more than just the display is draining the battery (ie when using hte video recording thing above the battery will last about 3-4 horus rather than 1-2). I'm not really sure though.

-Nate

[gyffes]

The point is moot:

As the pilot pointed out, it's just THEORY. They're so far from PROVING ANYTHING will interfere that Dutch Royal Airlines recently announced their crew would be using wireless handhelds to manage the inventory -- DURING FLIGHT -- of the dutyfree crap they push.

I imagine if there was any VALID concern, they'd not be proposing this.

It's just more of the goddamned bullying that makes Ashcroft wet his pants with delight.

[patrickl]

Actally I know for sure that Palm color PDA's cause lots of RF interference. Especially the ones with a plastoc casing can emit so much junk that the Holux clip-on GPS GM251 doesn't work because of it.

Who knows what disturbance it can cause to other equipment as well.

[boomer]

See THIS (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/beds/bucks/herts/3041343.stm) story in the news last week about interference. 

I know it 'aint a Clie, but who knows what a WiFi or Bluetooth device, cell phone or pager could do to a 'fly-by-wire' plane.  I'd rather be a bit safe than sorry.

[gyffes]

But that's interference within a few cm, Patrick, not a few feet as must be the case if you, holding your palm in your palm while sitting in your seat, are to affect the plane, even if your seat is over a major electronics node.

And the baby monitor was interfering on the radio frequencies and had no effect on any planes' 'lectronics.