CF Driver version 1.1 out very soon

[ayasin]

The next update to the CF driver will be out very soon to registered users of the CF driver. This version has some new feaures, bug fixes and speed enhancements. Our internal tests show a speed boost of over 60% (of course your mileage may vary). Users should be very happy with the enhancements. We are already working on the next version of the driver as well...I'll have more news about that when it becomes available, or you may get to hear it from the beta testers.

[NR70V-o-holic]

That´s great!!!!

Thx Ayasin, for the very, very good news...

:D :D :D :D :D

Noh

[Brownster]

How will we registered users be notified? Should we watch this thread? Watch our email? Keep hitting F5 on the Eruware website?

Waiting patiently :)
Jim

[ayasin]

We will try to do all three. I'll post a new thread with the final announcement and hopefully one of the Mods will put it on the front page.

[Eddy]

wow, I'm already so excited.
Can't wait to see what enhancements/ improvements there're on the new driver. Perhaps I may finally have a good excuse to put my 1G CF to use. :D

[jmg_NX21]

ALRIGHT!!!! :D

[KongK]

ARGHHHHHH!!! and I going on a weeklong vacation tonight! Wonder if my wife's agreeable to postponing the vacation for a little while ?? :)

Amir,
Any chance of the driver being release in the next 6 hours? :p

[ilkera]

lets wait and see :)
thanx Amir

[deepwater]

sounds great!
but I use TG50,is it possible to use your driver on my TG50 with Sony's CF "jacket"?

[CosmicBlend]

What about for previous beta testers.. will they all get the updates as well?

[Jun]

Thanks a lot Ayasin for your dedicated support to the Clie community! What a great product Eruware has! Can't wait for the new update!

[n2ifp]

Originally posted by CosmicBlend
What about for previous beta testers.. will they all get the updates as well?

As far as I know, yes, unless something has changed :).

Amir said there will be an announcement when the update is sent out, so if you don't get it, scream :D!

[oyakov]

n2ifp,

Any details on improvenents in Ver. 1.1?
In particular, movies, MP3?

[evaoni]

I hope 1.1 works with my NX now. The first and second beta worked. After that, none of them worked...not even 1.0. *crosses fingers*

[ayasin]

Originally posted by CosmicBlend
What about for previous beta testers.. will they all get the updates as well?

Yes, beta testers will also be able to get updates.

[Woodn]

Great News

Please thank the developers and beta testers please.

Regards

Nigel

[ccelada]

Can't wait to see the 60% speed improvement!...

[ibooyaka]

Great news! I've been checking this site two times a day for developments on the new version. Keep up the good work Eruware and I can't wait to try out the new beta. Thanks.

[Brownster]

My finger is tired of hitting F5....will this be before day out....or next week ;)

Actually not hitting F5 but the refresh button and trying to keep this thread at the top of the list today :)
Jim

[Unregistered]

what is f5, refresh?

[Brownster]

In Internet Explorer...F5=refresh

[RoyoftheRovers]

... still waiting to play 'The Matrix' in high quality mode from my Cf card......

[jwm]

ayasin, thanks for the brief

[Tixx]

Sweet:)

[Brownster]

very soon...as in soon today...soon this weekend...soon this month...or...well I am happy with the driver I have...I know that the update can only be icing on the cake

Thanks EruWare!!!
Jim

[ayasin]

Originally posted by Brownster
very soon...as in soon today...soon this weekend...soon this month...or...
We are trying to get it out today...it's mostly a logistical thing at this point...setting up the site to allow the for the download by registered users. We opted against email delivery because even though it would have been faster to set up (since we already have a fullfilment pipeline that uses it) it's not as reliable as several users reported that the email got put in their junk folder.

[Unregistered]

so is it out yet hehehehe I am going to buy them I am going to buy them put the new drivers out so I can buy them!

[Brownster]

I have been checking my spam/junk folder all day ;)

Jim

[Michael Quach]

So if it's a speed enhancement, I hope the movie player works better...

[Brownster]

I say send out the email....post that it was sent out and for anyone that did not get the email to look in their spam folder.

Wishin' for an update,
Jim

[Brownster]

Guess very soon will not be today...or at least on the east coast....as today is coming to an end...and so must I.

Jim

[Tixx]

Not here yet:( Cant wait:D

[wobly]

When it's posted on the Eruware site, will there be a download area for registered users? Otherwise, we will have to download it through the "storefront".
My 2 cents is that it would be easier to send to registered users through email. If it goes to your junk mail, then check your junk mail.

[aussie_nx70v]

good news on 1.1

care to tell us what are the next lot of improvements are on the next version?

[Brownster]

I am now assuming that "very soon" has become "soon." I think I will focus on enjoying the Memorial Day Weekend....hope everyone has a great weekend!!!

Jim

[greg elmassian]

i think maybe you should leave it at soon... or sorta soon, or in a matter of days, keeping in mind "days" can mean from 2 to infinity...

ahh... i'm just crabby... expected an update a month ago...

Greg

[Brownster]

I am not as crabby...got the weekend and most of monday off....the driver is working great for what I need....can't wait to see if the update has more of what I want :)

It is hard knowing that the update is ready to go....just waiting to be delivered. Kinda like Christmas Eve.

Jim

[Unregistered]

Does v1.1 support FAT32?

[greg elmassian]

why do you care? do you have a cf drive that's bigger than a gig?
(hmmm... I guess the 4 gig CF's could be a problem for fat16)

[palo1]

FAT32 also allows for smaller cluster sizes which cuts down on overhead

p

[ayasin]

The release will likely be Monday...we ran into some website problems...sorry for the delay.

[thinking]

Originally posted by ayasin
The release will likely be Monday...we ran into some website problems...sorry for the delay.

Even if Monday is a holiday?

[okmozart]

I wonder if the username / registration ID process has changed. Seems to me they could just post a link to the file (ftp:) if the security is the same.

My $.02.

[Brownster]

I think each file is encrypted individually to take each users code....It is not one file fits all...I could be wrong. I think this is the way PalmMedia encrypts their books. I couldn't beam you a book because the file is encrypted based on my personal code. So I think it is a little more complicated than posting one file for all.

Hopefully they will get the website updated for Monday...even though it is a Holiday.

Thanks EruWare...I am using the CFDriver to it's fullest ability and loving it. Can't wait to give the update a work out too.

Jim

[apccpe]

Thanks thanks thanks eruware... Did you forgot the 27 $ ?
eruware should better thanks sony for having blocked the CF port. And a 1.0 version so full of bug smells like a bad microsoft product politic.
Thanks eruware.

[greg elmassian]

if you are a registered user, then you could figure out that the software is not encrypted individually... think about the registration process you went through... you run the software, it generates a number, you send the number in and get a reg code... a simple key system... (simple in the sense of security used in the industry, not simple compared to some of the everyday palm registration procedures)
greg

[Brownster]

Then if the file is not user specific and the same file could be used...why not just post or email it? I figured that there was some user/file specific encryption that made it harder to deliver. IF I can just use the same code from the previous registration with any file...then just send out the file. But I think that it has to be more complicated than that.

Jim

[pigburger]

I'm pretty sure it's based off your system ID and then your hot sync ID. It's tight, whatever it is, and only mildly inconvenient.

[n2ifp]

Originally posted by pigburger
I'm pretty sure it's based off your system ID and then your hot sync ID. It's tight, whatever it is, and only mildly inconvenient.
I agree with your analysis, but the actual workings of it were never discussed by Amir with the beta testers.

[Siliconbug]

Originally posted by greg elmassian
why do you care? do you have a cf drive that's bigger than a gig?
(hmmm... I guess the 4 gig CF's could be a problem for fat16)
The most reason why we choose CF driver is for cheaper and larger size CF card, so I think FAT32 is necessory.

[wanked]

$

[edgrim]

Maybe I can shoot photos right to the CF card! Hope,hope.Thanks Eruware.

[n2ifp]

Originally posted by edgrim
Maybe I can shoot photos right to the CF card! Hope,hope.Thanks Eruware.
Yes sir! Shoot your heart out :)!

[okmozart]

Originally posted by greg elmassian
if you are a registered user, then you could figure out that the software is not encrypted individually...

Is there a new registration process with the new driver?

I am an impatient individual when it comes to my toys (NX70, et. al.). I do appreciate the progress of Eruware. They are definitely filling a niche that the manufacturer felt was unworthy of time or money. I hope they keep up the great work.

[greg elmassian]

i would guess there is not a new registration procedure...

the registration procedure is that you run the software, it makes a number (from it's internal computation that uses your user name, system id, and probably other things), you send that number, and then they generate a key that the driver decodes that matches your system.

i guess the reason the file is not posted is to stop people from hacking it.... can't blame him...

greg

[n2ifp]

Right, there was nothing mentioned about any changes in the registration.

[Dripps]

It's monday afternoon and I sure would love to play with the updated driver....

[thinking]

Originally posted by Dripps
It's monday afternoon and I sure would love to play with the updated driver....

I'm not sure the developer realized Monday is/was a holiday when they announced update may be ready.
Frank

[Brownster]

I am not getting my hopes up...I am setting my sights on Tuesday at 12:00 midnight...that way I will not be disappointed :)

Jim

[clownfish]

I'm planning on seeing it tomorrow also, but that doesn't mean I'm not checking every 10 min. today ;)

Mike

[Alistar]

Monday is a holiday?

[Dripps]

Yes, monday is memorial day....the day we remember the old cf driver. Or is it holiday because updated CF driver is due to be released?

[Brownster]

Heh... I am checking today as well...just not as much as I will tomorrow. I am giving my F5 button a rest...besides it is Memorial Day...Thank you to all those who have or are serving our country!!

Jim

[Alistar]

Ah I see we don't have Memorial Day in Canada.

[Brownster]

Originally posted by ayasin
The release will likely be Monday...we ran into some website problems...sorry for the delay.

Wonder what the website problems are? Wonder if Monday will come and go? Wonder if offices are closed on Memorial Day? Wonder if .... well time for some grilling and chilling... I have my 1gb, 256mb, 128mb and 64mb filled and using them to the max....wonder if I need an update ;)

Happy Memorial Day...for those in the US!
Jim

[ayasin]

It will be out today...we are almost ready with the changes. There were several things that needed to be done, so it took some time. We are just testing it now and then it will be live. I'll make an announcement of the release as soon as the site is live. Most of our problems stem from ASP and our webhost...but we're working through them.

[Brownster]

Cool!!! It will be a true Holiday!!!!

Back to F5'in my IExplorer ;)

[n0m0n]

Hosed yet again.
I believe this upgrade was to be released on Friday, wasn't it?
Then on Monday, and now???
I can understand it if this info was leaked out by someone not with the company, and everyone was waiting due to it, but the COMPANY made these statements
and those dates have come and passed.
Let me see I can hear the supporters now digging there way out of the wood work, but come on $27.00 for a driver which I was happy to have paid for, but they
can't even figure out how to get a delivery means in place.
I guess my first question would be are these smart children or professionals?
Come on:
A: don't make statement / commitments you can't keep.
B: don't tell everyone and there brother that there is a update coming MONTHS before its ready and then leave yet again everyone hanging.
Tomorrow will come and go and well, we are having a server problems.
Sorry but $27.00 its a lot of denier to a company that teases there customers.
I would rather not hear anything and get an update product then be told by a company that you will have something and not get it or even a word like:
OOP's I live in Texas, but stupid me I forgot its Memorial Day.
And after people posted in minutes that it was a national holiday no one corrected there mistaken commitment.

[Alistar]

From what I can tell, its still Monday.
And as for Friday, Ayasin explained the delays.
Have a little patience.

The early announcement was that an update was in the works and it was being beta tested not that it would necessarily be released the next day.

[n0m0n]

Originally posted by Alistar
From what I can tell, its still Monday.
And as for Friday, Ayasin explained the delays.
Have a little patience.

You have totally missed the point.

[ayasin]

Originally posted by n0m0n
Hosed yet again....
I would rather not hear anything and get an update product...
This is quite funny because it's nearly the opposite sentament from the one in another thread on this same page that accueses us of being too quiet about what's going on...reminds me of the Aesop's fable about the father and son who take their donkey to town.

OOP's I live in Texas, but stupid me I forgot its Memorial Day.
And after people posted in minutes that it was a national holiday no one corrected there mistaken commitment.
I didn't forget it's Memorial day...we, unlike most of the people complaining here, are working through this holiday to try to get the driver out.

[Brownster]

Heh...I worked today too :)

Ayasin: some of us understand the issues of logistics. I am a small self employed individual...i have to do it all myself. So thanks for the hard work. I don't mind waiting...gives me an excuse to sit in front of the computer and do mindless stuff while waiting ;)

Thanks,
Jim

[Alistar]

Yes it should be said again and again.
Forget those people who complain all the time.
You have done great work.

[hansschmucker]

n0m0n, while I fully understand your point of view, try to look at the whole situation from another perspective as well.
So, you're pissed, because Eruware can't keep up with the dates they told us. But keep in mind that usually companies don't annouce updates at all. Also, I would like to point you to gonegold.com , so you can see how well your average game company does with release dates. And you think those guys are no professionals? They are, but they're still only human...

[n0m0n]

Originally posted by ayasin

This is quite funny because it's nearly the opposite sentament from the one in another thread on this same page that accueses us of being too quiet about what's going on...reminds me of the Aesop's fable about the father and son who take their donkey to town.



Well I can't speak for the others, but I would rather not hear what is coming until its
hear.
As for the others well less talk would lead to less whining due to anticipation.
This is not the first time for this type of situation that we all find ourselves in.


I didn't forget it's Memorial day...we, unlike most of the people complaining here, are working through this holiday to try to get the driver out. [/B][/QUOTE]


Well it is a holiday and I for one can only sync at home since my boss thinks I should be working and not playing with my Clie.
When someone says it will be Monday instead i kind a visit my home puter and look for the product.
Since I have now wasted most of my day I think a little steam being blown in your direction is within reason.

[cliener]

Okay, lets all complain and send ayasin and company home. Lets call them names (refering to children as opposed to professionals) and make sure that the next upgrade is without comments until it is released. Lets also make sure they don't work after business hours or holidays to deliver on a comment of release time. I am sure they just said that to make certain people angry. Tease, tease, TEASE. Ohhh, they probably said it to attract criticism. I bet they love reading through the threads and being cut to shreds while they lose their holiday and time off to making something work. I know I would. (let me wipe the sarcasm off my brow) I think it would be better served to ask, is there anything we can do to help make this a little easier, smoother to deliver? My 2 cents.

[n0m0n]

Originally posted by Alistar
Yes it should be said again and again.
Forget those people who complain all the time.
You have done great work.

I guess you are not speaking about me since I have been monitoring this platform for
quiet a while now, and I don't usually respond or generate my comments in the form
of what did you call it complaint.
But I will defend my words since the actions are substantiate by the facts.
You may like this means of business but it is very unprofessional to me.

[n0m0n]

Originally posted by cliener
Okay, lets all complain and send ayasin and company home. Lets call them names (refering to children as opposed to professionals) and make sure that the next upgrade is without comments until it is released. Lets also make sure they don't work after business hours or holidays to deliver on a comment of release time. I am sure they just said that to make certain people angry. Tease, tease, TEASE. Ohhh, they probably said it to attract criticism. I bet they love reading through the threads and being cut to shreds while they lose their holiday and time off to making something work. I know I would. (let me wipe the sarcasm off my brow) I think it would be better served to ask, is there anything we can do to help make this a little easier, smoother to deliver? My 2 cents.

I did not refer to them as children, and I did not ask them to work through the night
or holiday just to stick to there commitments or don't voice them.
Just release the updates when they are ready for release.
Oh and did you forget $27.00.
One of the more pricey drivers.

[cliener]

I agree, they shouldn't have said it would be delivered if it wasn't. Today isn't over yet. You did compare them to children vs professionals. They aren't conducting themselves as professionals, if they were they wouldn't be working overtime or on holidays and probably couldn't care less about upgrades. As far as $27 as being one of the more pricey drivers, I haven't seen another driver for the clies in reference to this. Is there another out there?

[Unregistered]

Top THREE list of ways you can tell if you should spend a little time apart from your Clie and rejoin the real world.



3) Your boss actually takes the time to tell you that you should do work instead of play with your Clie

2) You waste a holiday in front of a computer hitting F5 to see if a software driver has been upgraded

1) You get "angry" at the only company that has been able to privide a driver for the CF card and expect people to sympathize with your plight


Whatever did we do with our time before God (and Sony) invented the Clie?

[ayasin]

Originally posted by n0m0n
Well I can't speak for the others, but I would rather not hear what is coming until its
hear.
I have a suggestion then...don't read threads like this...I've always started a _new_ thread to notify people when the driver is actually available.

As for the others well less talk would lead to less whining due to anticipation.
That's precicely why people were upset...the lack of information...people were even upset that the _beta testers_ weren't posting enough.
Well it is a holiday and I for one can only sync at home since my boss thinks I should be working and not playing with my Clie.
That's probably not unreasonable :)

When someone says it will be Monday instead i kind a visit my home puter and look for the product.
Since I have now wasted most of my day I think a little steam being blown in your direction is within reason.
Ok, I didn't ask you to sit in front of your computer and hit refresh over and over (and I doubt you did)...checking once or twice a day is probably plenty. I said it would be Monday before the driver was released...if you don't want to lose time, check on Tuesday after you get back from work. I'm not interested in arguing with you about this point, just saying that you can't please everyone. Some people are happy with info while others just want the stuff and to be left alone.

[cliener]

HEY Ayasin...if you are posting you aren't working!!! Get back to work!!!

[n0m0n]

Originally posted by cliener
I agree, they shouldn't have said it would be delivered if it wasn't. Today isn't over yet. You did compare them to children vs professionals. They aren't conducting themselves as professionals, if they were they wouldn't be working overtime or on holidays and probably couldn't care less about upgrades. As far as $27 as being one of the more pricey drivers, I haven't seen another driver for the clies in reference to this. Is there another out there?

No, I meant in general as to Palm / PDA software, drivers, etc.
I wasn't complaining as to dishing out $27.00, my point just was its not the cheapest product I have purchased but it is the only one that has generated so much
frustration for me.
Let me try to address this from a different direction, I was waiting for Jackflash to come out with there OS5 version also, BUT they handled themselves so much
how should I say it if my use of professional is not like in the manner that I have used it in???
I e-mailed them and they responded in hours that they respect and favor their loyal customer base, but due to the issues they were having with Sony there attempt to
release a OS5 version has been delayed.
They asked for our patience and committed to continue to strive forward.
Well they could have told us that they were sending out there updates to the beta testers which as far as I am concerned should not be stated since I think everyone
who pays has a right to either install the betas, or wait.
Not that I requested to be a tester in fact I did not.
Or well we cant seem to get it right how to deliver the updates since we have them ready but?@?!?!?!?!@#E?@
I think these things should be well thought out before going public, or you get what you get.

[Michael Quach]

Originally posted by Unregistered
Top THREE list of ways you can tell if you should spend a little time apart from your Clie and rejoin the real world.



3) Your boss actually takes the time to tell you that you should do work instead of play with your Clie

2) You waste a holiday in front of a computer hitting F5 to see if a software driver has been upgraded

1) You get "angry" at the only company that has been able to privide a driver for the CF card and expect people to sympathize with your plight


Whatever did we do with our time before God (and Sony) invented the Clie?


Hmmm... I was going to post something quite harsher, but I think this ownage of n0m0n is quite enough :)

[ayasin]

Originally posted by cliener
HEY Ayasin...if you are posting you aren't working!!! Get back to work!!!

I quit working for EruWare because they are a bunch of children who can't keep their commitments :p...now I'm becoming a professional board loafer. Just kidding:cool:

[n0m0n]

Originally posted by ayasin

I have a suggestion then...don't read threads like this...I've always started a _new_ thread to notify people when the driver is actually available.

That's precicely why people were upset...the lack of information...people were even upset that the _beta testers_ weren't posting enough.

That's probably not unreasonable :)
[b]
Ok, I didn't ask you to sit in front of your computer and hit refresh over and over (and I doubt you did)...checking once or twice a day is probably plenty. I said it would be Monday before the driver was released...if you don't want to lose time, check on Tuesday after you get back from work. I'm not interested in arguing with you about this point, just saying that you can't please everyone. Some people are happy with info while others just want the stuff and to be left alone.


Now I remember why I used the word child.
Thank you for your response.
I was worried I slandered you and did not want to do that personally that is.
As a company and a owner or rep. your responses speak volumes.
My point has been made thank you for your assistance.

[ayasin]

Originally posted by n0m0n
the only one that has generated so much
frustration for me.

How has this product generated frustration for you? If you have real issues, I'm interested in addressing them. If your issue is that there's too much communication and the company is too open about what's going on internally I'm suggesting that there are a lot of people on the other side of the fence...and really no one in either camp is happy with the current level of communication.

[Srevets]

Originally posted by ayasin


I quit working for EruWare because they are a bunch of children who can't keep their commitments :p...now I'm becoming a professional board loafer. Just kidding:cool:

Hehe...  (passes ayasin a cold drink) :)

[ayasin]

Originally posted by n0m0n
As a company and a owner or rep. your responses speak volumes.

It constantly amazes me that people think that giving someone money also entitiles them to abuse that person without a response. My comment was directed at your statement "You've made me lose my holiday" (a paraphrase).

[cliener]

I have posted many times how refreshing it is that Eruware approachs their client audience in a community way. They aren't a cold, large company. They are a small company that uses beta testers. They are seemingly involved with Cliesource and when there is something to be said Cliesource has been very forthcoming about news/events having to do with Eruware. Eruware and Cliesource have evolved around this driver and I think it is a good thing that anyone can say anything (within the rules set by the monitors) whether it be good or bad, constructive or ridicule. We are all waiting for the upgrade. Some just are more patient. That is what is cool, we are all individuals sharing our ideas and comments. I haven't seen much in the way of let downs concerning this driver. So I guess I have to wait and see if the comments of deliverance will pan out. BTW...I live in Texas and I hope everyone had a good weekend...and ayasin...keep working, the driver upgrade has $5 riding on it being delivered on time.

[n0m0n]

One last thing I did not post my original thoughts on the following threads:
EruWare's A Big Tease
Anyone got the CF driver update yet???
Let's admit it... the CF driver kinda sucks.

My intention was not empower those topics but to reflect poor business practices and the effect that they have on some.
Now I am not apologizing AT ALL for what I have reflected on is from the facts that this company has stated not leaks or he said she said stuff.
There responses have proven my points.
Oh I was not the person who stated that he was hitting F5 all day long...
I have not lived in front of my computer this day.
So loose no sleep for I will not.
I just expect when someone whom I have paid says something they follow through to their words.
KEY "their words".

[ayasin]

Originally posted by n0m0n

Oh I was not the person who stated that he was hitting F5 all day long...
I have not lived in front of my computer this day.
So loose no sleep for I will not.

I didn't say you were that person...that comment was directed at your statement "I lost my whole Monday to this" (again, a paraphrase).


I just expect when someone whom I have paid says something they follow through to their words.
KEY "their words".
How have we not kept our commitments....I said that we were TRYING to get it out friday...and Monday's not over for several more hours (at least here).

[Michael Quach]

Originally posted by n0m0n
One last thing I did not post my original thoughts on the following threads:
EruWare's A Big Tease
Anyone got the CF driver update yet???
Let's admit it... the CF driver kinda sucks.

My intention was not empower those topics but to reflect poor business practices and the effect that they have on some.
Now I am not apologizing AT ALL for what I have reflected on is from the facts that this company has stated not leaks or he said she said stuff.
There responses have proven my points.
Oh I was not the person who stated that he was hitting F5 all day long...
I have not lived in front of my computer this day.
So loose no sleep for I will not.
I just expect when someone whom I have paid says something they follow through to their words.
KEY "their words".


I think you're over-reacting a bit.... this has been entertaining, but really.... as someone stated earlier, would you have rather have had no information at all regarding the update?

I think Amir has been very approachable and forthcoming thoughout entire few months the driver has been out. To penalize him for that (which I believe you are doing) would be a mistake.

[n0m0n]

Originally posted by ayasin


How has this product generated frustration for you? If you have real issues, I'm interested in addressing them. If your issue is that there's too much communication and the company is too open about what's going on internally I'm suggesting that there are a lot of people on the other side of the fence...and really no one in either camp is happy with the current level of communication.

Communication is only good when they become facts.
When you state something follow through and make it a fact not bogus wishful thinking.
Listen when I say something I bring it to its conclusion when I have committed it would be.

On 5/22/03 @ 2156 you posted this:


CF Driver version 1.1 out very soon

The next update to the CF driver will be out very soon to registered users of the CF driver. This version has some new features, bug fixes and speed enhancements.
Our internal tests show a speed boost of over 60% (of course your mileage may vary). Users should be very happy with the enhancements. We are already working
on the next version of the driver as well...I'll have more news about that when it becomes available, or you may get to hear it from the beta testers.



Now that was very nice great news...
today is the 26th well almost 27th here, do you think 5 days is very soon???

Now I know you remember saying on Friday it would be released and then saying:
ooops we don't know how to deliver this to our paid customer...
We will have this ready on Monday.

Read your word and find fault with my response and its not only my response but I really did not want to generate a back and forth war.
Don't get me wrong this is doing wonders for my response count..
That was a joke I really don't care about the # of my responses.

[donaldekelly]

Maybe it isn't worth arguing anymore - everyone is entitled to his own opinion, and there are few that hold certain opinions.

Of course, I read through the whole thing! Gotta go do the laundry!

[Lainar]

Wow I can't believe some of the crybabies on this site. Don't you guys have better things to do then sit and whine and complain cause a piece of software is not released fast enough????


Be happy the eruware is refining the driver at all. They sure don't have too, thats for sure. It's people like you that make it hard on people who develop programs. Whine whine whine.


I think some of you should put down your clie, get your butts up from your computer and go out and enjoy some sunshine. The whole world does not revolve around the CF Driver for god's sake.

Who cares if it's days or a week late. I'd rather it be late and they solve whatever logistcal problems they have then have them rush it market and there be problems.

Seems patience is a virtue that alot on this board don't have.

[Michael Quach]

Originally posted by n0m0n


Communication is only good when they become facts.
When you state something follow through and make it a fact not bogus wishful thinking.
Listen when I say something I bring it to its conclusion when I have committed it would be.

On 5/22/03 @ 2156 you posted this:


CF Driver version 1.1 out very soon

The next update to the CF driver will be out very soon to registered users of the CF driver. This version has some new features, bug fixes and speed enhancements.
Our internal tests show a speed boost of over 60% (of course your mileage may vary). Users should be very happy with the enhancements. We are already working
on the next version of the driver as well...I'll have more news about that when it becomes available, or you may get to hear it from the beta testers.



Now that was very nice great news...
today is the 26th well almost 27th here, do you think 5 days is very soon???

Now I know you remember saying on Friday it would be released and then saying:
ooops we don't know how to deliver this to our paid customer...
We will have this ready on Monday.

Read your word and find fault with my response and its not only my response but I really did not want to generate a back and forth war.
Don't get me wrong this is doing wonders for my response count..
That was a joke I really don't care about the # of my responses.

I think you're nit-picking.... 5 days isn't that long.

[Alistar]

I agree, 5 days is nothing
Heck some of my coworkers are retiring very soon in their words, 2.5 years.
Its such a subjective phrase and you are being very unreasonable.
Show me a definition that says very soon explicitly means under 5 days.

[ayasin]

Originally posted by n0m0n
Now that was very nice great news...
today is the 26th well almost 27th here, do you think 5 days is very soon???
By my count I have 1 EruWare business day elapsed and 0 regular business days.


Now I know you remember saying on Friday it would be released and then saying:
ooops we don't know how to deliver this to our paid customer...
We will have this ready on Monday.
This is kind of the pot calling the kettle black...you call my comment's childish but have repeatedly posted things like "OOPS...stupid me, I live in Texas and forgot it's Memorial day" or this comment. As I stated before we were and are still investigating alternative delivery methods because spam filters were eating our emails. Does this mean we don't know how to deliver to our paying customers...no, we will still deliver. Does this mean that we are trying to make things easier for our customers; Yes.


Read your word and find fault with my response and its not only my response but I really did not want to generate a back and forth war.
I don't want to have a war (I didn't realize this was one)...but when you make statements about me, I do have to defend myself on occasion.

[thinking]

Wait. It'll be ready when it's ready. I too want this update and have been waiting for it, but nobody is going to die without it.

[n0m0n]

Originally posted by Alistar
I agree, 5 days is nothing
Heck some of my coworkers are retiring very soon in their words, 2.5 years.
Its such a subjective phrase and you are being very unreasonable.
Show me a definition that says very soon explicitly means under 5 days.

Well there you said it, to each's own.
I guess my opinion is worth as much as the person who does not care.
I guess that's where the $27.00 comes in.
It gives us all a voice.
Lets see for $27.00 I can see a concert hmmmmmmm what if they said they would
be at my arena on Saturday but never showed....
That may be a problem!?!?!?!@?!?@??!

[Brownster]

Originally posted by thinking
Wait. It'll be ready when it's ready. I too want this update and have been waiting for it, but nobody is going to die without it.

I am with you thinking. I am using what I have to the max and looking forward to the next update and future updates. But I admit...I do hope to see something before I go to bed...otherwise I will just have to dream of improvements ;)

Jim

[Alistar]

Originally posted by n0m0n


Well there you said it, to each's own.
I guess my opinion is worth as much as the person who does not care.
I guess that's where the $27.00 comes in.
It gives us all a voice.
Lets see for $27.00 I can see a concert hmmmmmmm what if they said they would
be at my arena on Saturday but never showed....
That may be a problem!?!?!?!@?!?@??!

A concert, thats the best you have. A concert is a one shot deal and require that you go to it not have it come to you. And in fact I have seen concerts events and whatnot that have been cancelled and rescheduled. And also in your example you don't mention that they tell people that they will not be there so you can reshedule.
Ayasin has been very forthcoming with any delays. Its not like he promised a date and then just left it that leaving us all in the lurch for a week. In any business or consumer venture you have to allow for some possible delays.

[n0m0n]

Originally posted by thinking
Wait. It'll be ready when it's ready. I too want this update and have been waiting for it, but nobody is going to die without it.

I can wait its not about HAVING HAVE IT NOW.
Its about saying something as a company and not following through.
Oh well attitude.
Accountability, your word, they should mean something in business when you take
someone's money.

Don't misread this I can wait its not a life or death thing for me.
And my boss he did not tell me not to use my Palm Clie etc.
I was saying that I don't sync at work and I had the day off so it would have been
nice if the company actually fulfilled there statement.
Now it was a statement and if you would like I can copy and paste it here to prove I
am not whining.
I don't care its a principal.

[Brownster]

Oh stop complaining and check the website!!!

[n0m0n]

Originally posted by Brownster


I am with you thinking. I am using what I have to the max and looking forward to the next update and future updates. But I admit...I do hope to see something before I go to bed...otherwise I will just have to dream of improvements ;)

Jim

Thats good I like that...
Funny

[ayasin]

Originally posted by n0m0n

Lets see for $27.00 I can see a concert hmmmmmmm what if they said they would
be at my arena on Saturday but never showed....
That may be a problem!?!?!?!@?!?@??!
It certianlly would be a problem...it's called "Larcany by false promise". This is hardly the same thing. You paid for a driver which you have. Upgrades were free but never promised on a time schedule (i.e. 1 every 2 weeks). We are working hard on this product and will continue to do so. As I said before...registered users will get free upgrades, and those updates will be posted when we are happy with their stability. That said the update will be ready tonight.

[cliener]

Okay, ayasin. Is that a promise? Or...heheheh jk.

[Alistar]

Originally posted by cliener
Okay, ayasin. Is that a promise? Or...heheheh jk.

Haha. LOL.

[n0m0n]

Originally posted by ayasin

By my count I have 1 EruWare business day elapsed and 0 regular business days.


This is kind of the pot calling the kettle black...you call my comment's childish but have repeatedly posted things like "OOPS...stupid me, I live in Texas and forgot it's Memorial day" or this comment. As I stated before we were and are still investigating alternative delivery methods because spam filters were eating our emails. Does this mean we don't know how to deliver to our paying customers...no, we will still deliver. Does this mean that we are trying to make things easier for our customers; Yes.


I don't want to have a war (I didn't realize this was one)...but when you make statements about me, I do have to defend myself on occasion.



Hey ayasin,
Its not a war to me either, actually I didn't have much to do since we are having
heavy rains here and this has been very entertaining.
I don't usually respond or use these other then to sponge off of others.
This has been fun.
Not that my points are not true to what I believe I think less talk until product and a
means of delivery is available is better, but whatever.
The only thing that gets me more frustrated is when you buy software and then when
there are updates you learn of this from PalmGear and have to wait until the company
send out a registered version.
I believe the customer...
Loyal customer who dished out the $$$ which keeps companies in business should
receive updates first or at the same time as they are offered to the masses.
Its all about good business ethics.
That's it...
Ok enough of this: ayasin where's my update?

[MythoFactory]

I downloaded the 1.1.0 right now. Eruware site, "My Account' button

[Brownster]

I have 1.1 installed...it went to my spam folder though...suspected spam that is.

Jim

[Michael Quach]

Hmmm... ayasin, I think you should stop wasting time on people like this. They'll complain all day, no matter what you do. Some people are just like that.

You have my permission... now get back to work :D

[Who Me?]

I can't believe you people.

5 days ago he posted that an update would soon be available soon and you are all whining that it's not here yet. Give me strength.

You already have functionality that the high and mighty Sony never intended, what is the matter with you?

Maybe next time you should get a computer from a computer company, not a consumer elctronics one!

Since it's Memorial Day you might want to reflect on the character of the Japanese as well.

[Brownster]

Asayin....You ARE a man of YOUR WORD!!!

Thanks!
Jim

[Alistar]

Me too.
Wow look at that Monday, just a Ayasin said.
Odd how that is eh.

[cliener]

Okay, lets hear how good the upgrade is now guys. Start a worthwhile thread. This one is history.

[jhonea1]

n0m0n, you're an idiot. I'd be highly surprised if you've celebrated your thirteenth birthday. And if you have, you would be best off to not admit it. Such an act would do nothing but galvanize the paramount lack of maturity you've displayed for us. If you're ten years old, I'd understand. Incidently, I'm not an English expert by any means, but I can generally formulate a somewhat legible sentence structure. From here on out, would you please be so kind as to author your responses in a word processor so as to be able to run a spell AND grammar check? We'd all appreciate it. And one other thing: The next time you feel inclined to harass someone about not getting something done as quickly as you desire, take a step back and apply the simple logic that IF YOU'D SHUT THE #%$& UP, MAYBE THEY COULD GET BACK TO DOING WHAT YOU WANT THEM TO DO!

For the rest of you guys that have enough intelligence to realize that just because a product is released a little later than initially anticipated, I must apologize that you had to read that. Some people just don't understand when they're no longer wanted. Anybody else see n0m0n as "the turd that won't flush?"

[SacKingsFan]

Yay! I just got the update through email. Great support!

[n0m0n]

Originally posted by jhonea1
n0m0n, you're an idiot. I'd be highly surprised if you've celebrated your thirteenth birthday. And if you have, you would be best off to not admit it. Such an act would do nothing but galvanize the paramount lack of maturity you've displayed for us. If you're ten years old, I'd understand. Incidently, I'm not an English expert by any means, but I can generally formulate a somewhat legible sentence structure. From here on out, would you please be so kind as to author your responses in a word processor so as to be able to run a spell AND grammar check? We'd all appreciate it. And one other thing: The next time you feel inclined to harass someone about not getting something done as quickly as you desire, take a step back and apply the simple logic that IF YOU'D SHUT THE #%$& UP, MAYBE THEY COULD GET BACK TO DOING WHAT YOU WANT THEM TO DO!

For the rest of you guys that have enough intelligence to realize that just because a product is released a little later than initially anticipated, I must apologize that you had to read that. Some people just don't understand when they're no longer wanted. Anybody else see n0m0n as "the turd that won't flush?"

"you're an idiot" you say...
And this response speaks high volumes for your education.
Look up the word OPINION's...
I have attacked no one but the principals that a company should be responsible.
Out of all the responses your makes me the happiest.
You ahve put a smile on my face.
Glad to have gotten under your skin.
:)

[Michael Quach]

Originally posted by n0m0n


"you're an idiot" you say...
And this response speaks high volumes for your education.
Look up the word OPINION's...
I have attacked no one but the principals that a company should be responsible.
Out of all the responses your makes me the happiest.
You ahve put a smile on my face.
Glad to have gotten under your skin.
:)

Hmmm... it's a rather sad person who takes pleasure in the discomfort they cause in others.

It's also a fairly sad person who hides behind an education.

[n0m0n]

Originally posted by Michael Quach


Hmmm... it's a rather sad person who takes pleasure in the discomfort they cause in others.

It's also a fairly sad person who hides behind an education.


Hides behind a education??
What do you mean by that.

Now for my statement that you responded to.
Yes jhonea1 (junior member) did bring reveal his higher education...
Yeah the gentleman if he is, before made accusations that sound to be more as I read them more about himself, then about my posting.

"Turd", and "IF YOU'D SHUT THE #%$& UPok",...

who's 10 years old now???

No where did I attack a person.
I attacked a method of business, A concept.
I would go as far to say that all who are outraged, and wired over my ORIGINAL statement are the ones whom fed the thread.
I posted my opinion on page 5, and we are now on page 9..
Now I am not saying all are attack's because they are not but there are always a few that have nothing better to do then call people names.
It makes them feel big, KEY "feel".

[Michael Quach]

I just find that people who harp on other's people education level, are usually overinflated and snobbish.

I probably could have put it a bit more eloquently, but I do tend to agree with his sentiment.

[n0m0n]

Originally posted by Michael Quach
I just find that people who harp on other's people education level, are usually overinflated and snobbish.

I probably could have put it a bit more eloquently, but I do tend to agree with his sentiment.

Ok please expand on where I attacked anyone's education level???
I never claimed to be a grammar major mathematics now that is what I excel in but anyway please advice as to the education question.
Thanks

[Michael Quach]

"you're an idiot" you say...
And this response speaks high volumes for your education.


I was simply pointing out the reference of your statement towards his education, rather than his original message.

[n0m0n]

Originally posted by Michael Quach
"you're an idiot" you say...
And this response speaks high volumes for your education.


I was simply pointing out the reference of your statement towards his education, rather than his original message.


Michael Quach,

NO, NO, NO!
Go back 1, or 2 responses I was quoting what jhonea1 said about me.
That is why there are quotes around it, and my response was "so you say".
He said that about me, not I about him:
Here is his statement which I was responding to.

Posted by: jhonea1 5/26/03 @ 2247

n0m0n, you're an idiot. I'd be highly surprised if you've celebrated your thirteenth birthday. And if you have, you would be best off to not admit it. Such an act would
do nothing but galvanize the paramount lack of maturity you've displayed for us. If you're ten years old, I'd understand. Incidently, I'm not an English expert by any
means, but I can generally formulate a somewhat legible sentence structure. From here on out, would you please be so kind as to author your responses in a word
processor so as to be able to run a spell AND grammar check? We'd all appreciate it. And one other thing: The next time you feel inclined to harass someone about
not getting something done as quickly as you desire, take a step back and apply the simple logic that IF YOU'D SHUT THE #%$& UP, MAYBE THEY COULD
GET BACK TO DOING WHAT YOU WANT THEM TO DO!

For the rest of you guys that have enough intelligence to realize that just because a product is released a little later than initially anticipated, I must apologize that you
had to read that. Some people just don't understand when they're no longer wanted. Anybody else see n0m0n as "the turd that won't flush?"

I never called him anything but said that people like hits put a smile on my face because of there attitudes.
They are way, way over the top even for me.

[n0m0n]

Name calling is what I was addressing not education or the level of it.
Again to bring much needed clarity I would direct anyone who is not clear about what I said back to page 5 and my origianl staement.

[Unregistered]

Some think education is a valuable commodity although recent statistics show that it may be of higher value to females.

Some think knowing how to spell commonly used words in their native language is a nice touch too :).

[n0m0n]

Originally posted by Unregistered
Some think education is a valuable commodity although recent statistics show that it may be of higher value to females.

Some think knowing how to spell commonly used words in their native language is a nice touch too :).

Its poor typing that is the real issue here.
The fingers don't move as fast as the idea's.

[n2ifp]

I think I can sum it up in one word, pontificating.

[ashVID]

Originally posted by n2ifp
I think I can sum it up in one word, pontificating.

PERVERT!!! Children read this forum (well at least people who ACT like children).


ash =o)

[RoyoftheRovers]

Since thid thread is supposed to be about the imminent arrival of the updated driver, shouldn't it now be closed (since we have the new driver)........especially since this thread has gone off on a complete tangent :|

[Godzilla63]

Too bad I live all the way on the other side of the world or I could have participated too.

Bummer.... it looks like you've all had so much fun too.

Someone send me an email next time you all start fight'n........ :D

[n0m0n]

Originally posted by Godzilla63
Too bad I live all the way on the other side of the world or I could have participated too.

Bummer.... it looks like you've all had so much fun too.

Someone send me an email next time you all start fight'n........ :D



This was not a fight on my part.
I have reviewed my original posting and I had no intention of fighting.
Well it’s not raining here today so I can find something else to entertain myself for today.
But hey to each is own

[Unregistered]

Pontificating... coming from the ClieSource pope :).

[Unregistered]

is that like the pot calling the kettle another color?????

[Tixx]

Originally posted by Unregistered
is that like the pot calling the kettle another color?????

Depends on the color it is called.

[Godzilla63]

quote:
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Originally posted by Unregistered
is that like the pot calling the kettle another color?????



Depends on the color it is called.

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Actually... wouldn't it depend on the original colour?