is the NX70v reflashable?

[little-man]

I recently obtained an NX70v that turns on, but doesn't show anything on the screen. The backlight turns on, but no image. When I press buttons, it beeps. I think the problem may be that the OS has been wiped. Does anyone know if I can reflash the OS, and if so, can you send me or post the ROMs? Thank you.

[keesercc]

?????? where did you get this clie? and I'm not sure but I think that the ROMS are majorly protected and to send one would be a viloation of intellectual property and copyright to name a few. try a hard reset. push the button on the back of the clie with a paperclip or unscrew the top of the stylus. other than that... can you send some more info?

[little-man]

no, it wouldn't violate anything unless I paid for it. A hard reset doesn't fix it, and neither does draining the battery. I got it from ebay.

[liqiang.ah]

Check the "HOLD" bottum on the left side.

[cbulock]

Originally posted by little-man
no, it wouldn't violate anything unless I paid for it. A hard reset doesn't fix it, and neither does draining the battery. I got it from ebay.

Actually, thats not true, it's illegal to give copyrighted material away for free, just as it is to sell it. That is, unless you own the copyright.

[n2ifp]

I agree!

[qgent]

Try your luck with Sony, get online with a tech I'm sure he or she can read the script to help you solve your problem

[euroclie]

Originally posted by little-man
no, it wouldn't violate anything unless I paid for it.
Well, to make a long story short, ROM swapping is illegal. Now technically speaking, if you wanted to flash a US ROM on a US device, say, then I don't see Sony sueing you for that! ;)

A hard reset doesn't fix it, and neither does draining the battery. I got it from ebay.
Then you're the proud owner of a (probably) expensive NX70V-shaped paperweight! :(

As a matter of fact, except in a few shops in Hong Kong which will do it for a fee, no one has ever succeeded in reflashing a NX70V ROM.

You best bet is probably to send it to Sony for repair. It will be expensive, but hopefully you've had a (very) good deal on eBay so it may not cost you more than a new unit... (fingers crossed for you!)

[little-man]

Well, to make a long story short, ROM swapping is illegal. Now technically speaking, if you wanted to flash a US ROM on a US device, say, then I don't see Sony sueing you for that!

That's exactly what I want to do. I don't see a problem with putting something back on there that was on it before but got lost. That's like saying that if I upgraded to a new PDA, I'd have to reregister all the software I had on my old one!

[n2ifp]

Looks like you have two choices, fly to Hong Kong, get SARS in the process or send it to Sony for an estimate, but call them first.

[Alistar]

Hey n2 what happened to your avatar?
I liked your other one, it was fairly original, or at least not really duplicated.

[n2ifp]

Because I am in a funky mood today...

[slippy4twenty]

well thats never good....

[Unregistered]

Originally posted by cbulock


Actually, thats not true, it's illegal to give copyrighted material away for free, just as it is to sell it. That is, unless you own the copyright.

Uh oh, think the feds are coing to come get me? I gave my dad a book I finished reading last week...

I'm pretty sure you can give away copyrighted material, as long as you don't duplicate it!

-Jury

[cbulock]

Originally posted by Unregistered


Uh oh, think the feds are coing to come get me? I gave my dad a book I finished reading last week...

I'm pretty sure you can give away copyrighted material, as long as you don't duplicate it!

-Jury

Your right. If you took the ROM file from one NX, and destroyed the copy on the device, you could legally transfer it another device. But, simply copying it, and giving it to someone would be duplicating it, and thats still illegal.

[akfreas]

How come those Hong Kong geniuses never come onto CS and tell us how to do it? Why are the Chinese so great at hacking, even though their consumer software is so crappy?

[n2ifp]

They wouldn't make any money, so they carefully guard their secrets. I don't know how they do it either. They also may have their own secret CS.

[akfreas]

But how is it that only a handful of people know how to do it, and it seems like they are all in HK?

[Sensei]

Originally posted by akfreas
But how is it that only a handful of people know how to do it, and it seems like they are all in HK?

The reason it is at Hong Kong is because copyright isn't strictly enforced. If you were to go to some other Asian Countries, you would probably find the same thing, especially Thailand.

[little-man]

Well, I talked to the guy I bought the NX from, and he agreed to let me send it back. I guess you get get anything if you're pesky enough! I learned that from my little sister.

[palo1]

Originally posted by cbulock


Your right. If you took the ROM file from one NX, and destroyed the copy on the device, you could legally transfer it another device. But, simply copying it, and giving it to someone would be duplicating it, and thats still illegal.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but every NX comes with an OS, therefore that person doesn't have what he paid for - if I copy my OS and give it to someone who has already paid Sony for it, that shouldn't constitute piracy.

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[aussie_nx70v]

hmmm.....im curious

not that id want to do it BUT......

can you flash Palm OS 4.1 into a NX70V? Lets not worry about how to flash it yet..

would the hardware be able to cope?

[clie_wannabe]

Originally posted by aussie_nx70v
hmmm.....im curious

not that id want to do it BUT......

can you flash Palm OS 4.1 into a NX70V? Lets not worry about how to flash it yet..

would the hardware be able to cope?

yes... theoretically youd be able to flash it...
however, youd have a non-working device...

the palm os 4 was made for the dragonball processors, while 0s 5 was made for the new type of processors... ie., each processors have their own instruction sets which are used to execute the minute commands needed for an application... if an os doesnt know those commands, then it is essentially useless...

that is why "windows xp" may be placed in a sparc server's hdd, but it wouldnt be able to run the machine...

[aussie_nx70v]

ive got some more logic to what ive said....

if the NX is backwards compatible to recognise the Palm OS 4.1 instruction set when would be be logical to say that you can flash it with 4.1 ?

[cbulock]

Originally posted by aussie_nx70v
ive got some more logic to what ive said....

if the NX is backwards compatible to recognise the Palm OS 4.1 instruction set when would be be logical to say that you can flash it with 4.1 ?

The NX hardware itself isn't backwards compatible with OS 4, but the PACE software built into OS5 is.

[euroclie]

Originally posted by palo1
Correct me if I'm wrong, but every NX comes with an OS, therefore that person doesn't have what he paid for - if I copy my OS and give it to someone who has already paid Sony for it, that shouldn't constitute piracy.

I don't really agree with your view of the situation: if he had bought his NX direct from Sony, of course, he would legitimately expect to have a useable OS on his device. Now he bought it on eBay, with no particular waranty (the previous owner probably did something wrong and messed up his device), so there's no way Sony should be held responsible for that, and this is no excuse to ignore the copyrights on the NX ROM...

In the NX manual, it's clearly written on page 5 (Read this first manual): "Copyright laws prohibit reproducing the software [...] in whole or in part [...] without the permission of the copyright holder." and "The software provided with this product cannot be used with equipment other than that which it is designated for use with." Obviously, this would prevent any ROM copying... :(

That being said, I agree with you that although illegal, chances are that Sony wouldn't sue him for trying to restore the original OS on his newly acquired device! But since the guy he bought it from agreed to take it back, the question will remain purely theoretical! ;)

[PEG-SJ30]

The $599 question - is the NX flashable to OS6? I'm sure it's feasible, but it depends on what PalmSource and Sony do.

[little-man]

actually I need your advice. Should I:
1. send the NX back to the guy I bought it from for a refund of all but the shipping (which comes out to about $20, for both him sending it to me and me sending it back)
2. keep it, take it apart, and sell the screen, battery, and anything else that's salvageable
3. keep it, and try to get an NX with a working motherboard and a broken screen or something like that and fix one with the other (this is how I've gotten all but my first PDA)

It has a lot of scuffs and scratches, and one small crack near the power button. That's why the guy agreed to take it back. I bought it for about $100. If anyone wants to donate parts from their broken NX, tell me.