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euroclie
01-24-2003, 03:46 PM
Hi all,

Back when I had my N770C, I was able to connect to the net using the PEGA-MSB1 Bluetooth MemoryStick and a 3Com Bluetooth USB dongle, and the Mochasoft PPP program.

Since I've switched to the NX70V, although I was still able to hotsync through BlueTooth, I couldn't connect to the internet via Bluetooth anymore: Mochasoft PPP stayed stuck with a "connexion disabled" message and nothing happened. Meanwhile, I had replaced the 3Com Bluetooth adapter on my PC with a Billionton Bluetooth USB Adapter (smaller, cheaper, better software), but still no joy with Mochasoft PPP.

Today I decided to get things straight, and de-installed all the bluetooth stuff on my laptop to make a "clean" installation of the bluetooth drivers just in case...

My setup is:

PC: Fujitsu S5582 Laptop running (English) Win XP Home, with a Billionton USB Bluetooth dongle. BT driver version is 1.2.2.9 (couldn't find any update on their site).

Clié: NX70V/U with English MSB1 drivers from the Hong Kong site, and of course the PEGA-MSB1 Bluetooth MemoryStick.

First of all, make sure the Clié and the PC are "paired" via bluetooth.

On the Clié side, I created a "PC via Bluetooth" connexion as follow:

Name: PC via Bluetooth
Connect to: PC
Via: Bluetooth
Device: PatLap (this is the name I gave to my laptop in the BT software)
Details: Speed: 115200, Flow Ctl: automatic

and then created a network service as follow:
Service: Bluetooth Internet
Username : <left blank>
Password: <prompt> (i.e. not set)
Connexion: PC via Bluetooth
Details:
Connection type: PPP
Idle Timeout: Never
Query DNS: checked
IP address: 'automatic' checked
Script:
End (basically an empty script)


On the PC side, well, I spent quite some time playing with Mochasoft PPP without any success at all.

One time, though, I decided to leave the Bluetooth driver windows visible in the background while I was trying to connect the Clie, and I noticed that instead of receiving a "Bluetooth serial port" connexion type as I was expecting (and as was required by Mochasoft PPP), the "Network Access" connexion type was activated instead. I don't really understand the technical process involved here, but I decided to close Mochasoft PPP and give it another try, after enabling internet access sharing for the (Compuserve) dialup connexion which was my internet access at that moment.

Wahooo! It worked like a charm: the link was established on the Clie (instead of the usual PPP timeout error dialog) and I was quickly able to send & receive email using Clie Mail, and surf the net using NetFront.

The bottom line is: with XP internet sharing, no need to use Mochasoft PPP with a (virtual) bluetooth serial port, all you need is to enable the internet connexion sharing, if you have the appropriate profile (network access) amongst the various profiles installed by the Bluetooth drivers on the PC!

This seems an important thing to check when buying a Bluetooth USB dongle or PCMCIA card: make sure it includes a "nework access" profile.

Hope this can help... (BTW, I've not yet found a way to connect to the internet through the USB cradle... ;))

Pepone
01-09-2004, 04:53 AM
That is excatly what i tried but it does not work

My palm : Clié NX73V
Laptop : Windows XP + USB bluetooth key ( no name but seem to be an Anycom USB-220)

When I try to connect I see the BT service network up and on the clié after a while give an error PPP 0x1231. It seem to be an timeout at the scurity negotiation.

Ive try:
- fixing IP address on both side :same
- disable security autentification IEE 802.1x on the bluetooth network: same
- configure the connection with or without login/pass : same
- many try but surely not the good one ;)

If some one have anu idee...
thanks in advance

X Destruction
01-09-2004, 07:00 AM
The clie on os4 supports only one bluetooth profile, serial. This why it was no problem connecting through serial. OS5 supports two, network and serial. So now when you try to setup for network access, it will channel into the network access profile and not the serial profile. If you want to get mocha to work, just disable network access on your computer (uncheck automatic). Now here's the better solution. DON'T use mocha-ppp. Instead, keep the network profile on and enable internet sharing for your bluetooth network connection. If you don't want to go through all that, or are on non-2000/xp, here's what you have to do. Go into bluetooth network from network places and change it's ip from automatic to 192.168.0.1. Now, download something like sygate internet sharing or enable internet connection sharing if it's 2000/xp. In sygate (what I use) go to advanced and configuration, at the top right there's local network connections, do select manually, and select Bluetooth PAN Driver. Doing this will enable the full speed of bluetooth. The best serial goes is 125kbps. The best real network connection sharing goes is around 1mbps, which is the full bluetooth speed. There is a BIG difference in every internet program if you use this method. Good luck.