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alinear
05-21-2003, 03:10 AM
I'm developing some clie-specific content via flash5 player... curious about some things...

The default launcher intro animation (sony logo) is a SWF (shockwave flash) file, and so are all of the 'product demo' movies included on the CLIE. If you browse the files on the internal memory these are shown as .swf -- but are wrapped inside of PDB files. When I copied them to a PC, they did not run in flash player or decompile, so obviously they are not simply just SWFs.

My main question here is -- how to create a self-running flash movie... as an application (launchable stand-alone). This is so the user does not have to 'install' to the 'MMFlash' folder on their card media, etc... so that the Flash content can run like a normal app. This was done by sony (and by the developer who did their CLIE demo).

Also -- how are they getting it to play flash content full screen (sans bottom 30 pixels toolbar). Best I can get within flash player is 'fullscreen' removing the virtual grafitti area (giving 320x450 pixels canvas).

Ideally I am looking to be able to author flash-player based applications which can be downloaded and installed as 'normal' palm apps, and which do not have the bottom tool bar in view when running (can use the whole 320x480 screen space for flash playback).

Anyone savvy with this sort of thing interested in helping with a project?!?!

Best -
Neil // alinear

iebnn
05-21-2003, 06:23 AM
They're doing it in a similar way to how they are for example playing MP3s on the device and playing MPEG with sound on the device. In other words, only they know. You might be able to use a decompiler to look through the flash applications if you can understand palm ASM, maybe you can figure it out.

kossoclie
05-26-2003, 03:39 PM
Hi,

I too am a Flash app developer, looking to build apps for the Clie.

One BIG problem I have, is that the Flash player will not do any 'LoadVariables' actions.. I think (PLEASE correct me if I'm wrong)

All I tried to do ws a simple text vairiable load, with the device already connected to the net, via Sony Erricsson P800 - Bluetooth

Macromedia will HAVE to give us the Flash 6 player (WITH standalone app creation - fullscreen etc) as they have done with the PocketPC.

They will no doubt (again like the PPC) charge a fortune for the tool to convert Flash SWFs into standalone distributable executables (projectors)

The beauty of projectors running on a PDA/phone is the fullscreen option - it runs without the need for a browser - and means you can make apps look GREAT! - while working well and being dead cheap to develop - relatively

With GUI compnents available for specific mobile/pda use, it wont be long before the 'createcs' , like me are all crying out for the tools....

i cant wait!

rinnovative
05-31-2003, 05:15 AM
ok, my 2 cent, you try the latest update on MMFlash for CLIE yet?
plz do.

I think network connect are limited supported now, I havn't have time to test it yet, but I notice some swf I use to run on the NX are now trying to connect something with the new MMFlash Player.

hope these help.

kossoclie
05-31-2003, 08:55 AM
where can a find an update? I think I already got it. And not even the simplest of 'loadVariable' work.

hansschmucker
05-31-2003, 09:16 AM
I would recommend using the TG player as a basis, since the newset version seems rather unstable. You can find both at
http://hansschmucker.free.fr/clie/

rinnovative
05-31-2003, 01:39 PM
Originally posted by kossoclie
where can a find an update? I think I already got it. And not even the simplest of 'loadVariable' work.

the update can be found on Sony Japan CLIE support website.
ok, now I can't really try as I have no connection on my NX with my desktop.

but I am sure when I did loadVariablesNum("http://xyz.com", 0);
the flash player is trying to get network connection as it trys to connect var the CF slot. (I have WL100 setup on the network connect pref).

the latest version of MMFlash is 5.0.89.0

will let you know when I get the connection back running.

I have a question here, anyone know what is the key code on the todo, address, up and down etc btn (hard btn) on the machine?
I was trying to dev a game, now I am limited to the keyboard as I can't find any doc or is it even possible to mask these hard key....
anyone can help?

to hansschmucker :
hum, I don't have any unstable issue........ maybe I didn't test enough.....

iebnn
05-31-2003, 09:53 PM
I believe you can only use the keyboard with the flash player. You definitely cant use the application buttons, but maybe the up/down.

hansschmucker
05-31-2003, 09:56 PM
You can, as long as you treat them as events, not keystates

rinnovative
06-01-2003, 01:03 AM
Originally posted by hansschmucker
You can, as long as you treat them as events, not keystates

hum............ you got any sample code?
thx!
:)