Movies on OS5 CLIE vs PPC

[Jeffry]

Anyone have experience in playing back movies on an (OS5) CLIE and an entry level PPC (like the H1910)? Which one is better?

Thanks

[Puppy]

I haven't messed with that model, but almost certainlly the Sony OS 5 device will do media better. Zdnet/Cnet rate the NX/NZ as better than any Wince device for video, so it's pretty unlikely a 200mhz Wince device is going to outperform it.

[JackAxe]

The HP1910 does not have a dedicated graphics accelerator where as the Clie' does. This is why the Clie' is much better in this area.

It took me a while just to get my PPC not to drop frames. No other app can be running and you need at least 12 megs free. Once I did understand this I was able to play my Divix video back at 320x240 without frame drops.

All the tests I've seen for the PPC when comparing video playback have shown that a PXA250 running less then 400 will always drop frames.

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[Jake K]

Movies play awesome on my Viewsonic V35. Very smooth with excellent sound. No noticable dropped frames at all. I haven't seen an OS5 device play movies, but a PPC should get the same or better frame rates.

[iebnn]

The NX/etc os5 clies actually get pretty bad frame rates. How is the CLIE superior to the PPC in video playback then if the PPC gets better framerates even after dropping frames? DivX also has smaller file sizes.

[Unregistered]

one small difference - is that you can buy ppc movies - and you cannot do that so far for palm. as for the viewers, that typically comes down to user preference. when the xscales first came out for ppc, they play was choppy. now it is good.

[iebnn]

I wouldnt want to buy movies for my palm.

[iebnn]

I'd rather buy the DVD and just convert it overnight for viewing on my palm. I'd hate to waste money on a proprietary format just for a handheld OS.

[Jake K]

Originally posted by iebnn
I'd rather buy the DVD and just convert it overnight for viewing on my palm. I'd hate to waste money on a proprietary format just for a handheld OS.

Are you saying you wouldn't want to spend money on a PPC format or a Palm format?

[iebnn]

I wouldnt want to spend money on any proprietary movie format that would work on only one particular handheld operating system (or even one that would only work on any handheld OS). Actually it boils down to: I wouldnt want to spend money on a video that is encoded at a low resolution.

[Unregistered]

i'm not saying i support ppc. i have an ipaq h5450 and nz90.

they ppc videos sold are not hi-res. but some find it convenient to go ahead and buy the movie.

with the abundance of 3rd party viewers, i find it comes down to screen quality, vs os and os speed.

[iebnn]

How much do the movies cost?

Why not just buy the DVD and rip it over night? Then you actually own the real movie, and not some lores version that will only work on your PPC.

[Jake K]

Thats the way I do. Just rip the dvd, no need to buy anything extra.

[Ni+Mh]

Nothing beats a Clie HiRes+ machine for video playback

[yOyOYoo]

Video play back on PPC is better than all OS5 models except for the hi-res+ ones. I tried watching some movies converted through image station and kinoma on my TG50 and I found the experience quite awful.

Movies seem to have a decent framerate, but the 320x320 screen makes viewing movies very bad, in my opinion. How can you see anything on the screen? I don't want to go blind in 10 years!

[iebnn]

Why are you still using kinoma when you have an os5 clie? The built in movie player is much better, other than the framerate.

Yeah I forgot, PPC video playback is probably a bit better than clie video playback, except that its resolution is terrible. But at least it's widescreen rather htan square like the TG.

[puma1]

Hi,

I think pocket pc are half the way regarding video playback. Sony high end models like the NX or NZ series have a very nice screen no doubt on that.
I do think the upcoming ipaq 5500 with it's new chip and 128 ram should perform better than the Clies. Let's hope that Sony releases something better so it can keep up with pocket pc's evolution in video playback.

It's all about software too, I think most pocket pc's like the Toshiba e750 with their graphics chip by ATI could perform a lot better with some good video playback software. The implementation of more Ram and a faster system bus in the coming Ipaq 5500 should allow some new and better software to take full advantage of it's processing power and Media Q graphics.

Regards,

E.G

[iebnn]

and ppc can play divx.. while no one can even develop any video players for os5..

[lostether]

Actually I think there is software that plays divx and other formats on the clie - mmplayer.

There are many factors that influence the quality of video on both platforms, and for a good balance of ease of use, file size and playback quality I think Sony wins with image converter. You could use wmp for the ppc but the results are not that impressive.

The new bus speed of the pxa255, which should be implemented on both platforms I would imagine, should solve some of the framerate problems.

[Jake K]

Originally posted by lostether
Actually I think there is software that plays divx and other formats on the clie - mmplayer.

There are many factors that influence the quality of video on both platforms, and for a good balance of ease of use, file size and playback quality I think Sony wins with image converter. You could use wmp for the ppc but the results are not that impressive.

The new bus speed of the pxa255, which should be implemented on both platforms I would imagine, should solve some of the framerate problems.

Thats why you use Pocket MVP or Pocket TV instead of WMP for movie watching on a PPC. Prefect frame rates every time.

[iebnn]

In order for the pxa255 to solve framerate problems on the Clie, sony would have to change their image converter to use a higher framerate. I wonder if they'll do this, especially seeing as movies encoded in the new one would have the same file extension etc. but would not work on older clies (nx etc).

mmplayer doesn't work on the clie. this is because sony has not given us developers full APIs.