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janos
07-08-2008, 04:30 PM
Allow me to announce next iteration of the Resco IDGuard.

For those not familiar with the product, it is a password manager with added ability to safely store/preview/edit secret documents.

While v2.01 fullfils a few user requests, the major new thing is the (Windows) desktop component. It has again two key abilities:
- Password (etc.) management
- Safe storage for the files of any type. To explain this here is a simplified example:

If you have a secret file (image, document etc.), you just drag it onto IDGuard. Next time you want to work with the file, you need just a 2click onto respective IDGuard record.

The upgrade is free for all IDGuard or Resco Suite owners and can be downloaded here (http://www.resco.net/palm/idguard/downloads.asp).

Note that the PC component is basically an independent PC utility that just happens to have Palm OS component. (PPC component will come as next.)

Jan Slodicka
Resco

Treo Musketeer
07-08-2008, 09:17 PM
Cool, I've been waiting for this. Thanks Jan!

tosbsas
07-08-2008, 10:43 PM
Just for your information -to use older databases of IDGuard you need to change format on both sides, desktop and palm (palm is by changing password)

Than you change password on desktop and thats it

Ruben

janos
07-09-2008, 02:51 PM
Right now we are working on making the transition easier. There will be an update tomorrow.

Treo Musketeer
07-09-2008, 03:57 PM
I've owned ID Guard for a while now, but was waiting for the desktop version to input all my data (I don't like doing a lot of typing on my Treo). I spent two hours entering everything in last night on the desktop and despite saving each entry, when I closed the box and then attempted to reopen it later, it was gone. I then spent another couple hours searching my PC for it. Needless to say I was quite frustrated. I've read through the User Manual, but found it to be somewhat confusing. Anyone have clearer recommendations as to what to do, once you have all your entries completed? I did notice a warning box telling me to change the path of the import file, but not sure that had anything to do with losing the file.

janos
07-09-2008, 04:40 PM
I spent two hours entering everything in last night on the desktop and despite saving each entry, when I closed the box and then attempted to reopen it later, it was gone.

I never saw this, sorry. The warning is just that - the location will not be seen during a Hotsync action. The file itself should be created.

Try to make a new DB, type 1 entry, save data source and exit. Then open IDGuard again.

Data Sources are stored by default under
your Documents&Settings folder
User folder or All users (depending on the settings)
Application Data
IDGuard

Actually the <Application Data> folder has hidden attribute set by the system, so that might be your problem. Allow the display of the hidden files and you should see it.

Treo Musketeer
07-09-2008, 09:15 PM
Thanks Jano. I couldn't find the file, so I had to start from scratch. It took me a couple tries before I figured out how to Hotsync the desktop file onto my Treo, but its all there now. I feel good knowing I have the info both on my device, in backup on my SD card, and on my PC, but all encrypted. I can't tell you the number of times I wish I had my frequent flyer number, or remembered my password, etc. I'm looking forward to never having that be a problem again. Thanks.

Stu

janos
07-10-2008, 04:42 PM
Hi,

a better version with lots of improvements is here (http://www.resco.net/palm/idguard/downloads.asp) .

Any comments will be greatly appreciated.

STBXXL
07-10-2008, 04:48 PM
Thanks Jano. I couldn't find the file, so I had to start from scratch. It took me a couple tries before I figured out how to Hotsync the desktop file onto my Treo, but its all there now. I feel good knowing I have the info both on my device, in backup on my SD card, and on my PC, but all encrypted. I can't tell you the number of times I wish I had my frequent flyer number, or remembered my password, etc. I'm looking forward to never having that be a problem again. Thanks.

Stu

Could you please describe how you managed to get the data source on the PC getting hotsynced to your Treo? I have a lot of problems. I can enter data and find the PC file ok. But after a hotsync my IDGuard.prc file on my Treo has disappeared and a IDGuard.pdb file resides in my RAM (my PC data source has a different name though).

Thanks a lot.

cyberdude
07-10-2008, 05:15 PM
Could you please describe how you managed to get the data source on the PC getting hotsynced to your Treo? I have a lot of problems. I can enter data and find the PC file ok. But after a hotsync my IDGuard.prc file on my Treo has disappeared and a IDGuard.pdb file resides in my RAM (my PC data source has a different name though).

Thanks a lot.
Not sure what you did. I did the following and had no problems whatsoever:

installed Beta on PC and handheld
changed the password on the handheld to upgrade DB
copied the DB to the all users -> applications -> idguard folder (had to create that myself) This should be done when the Desktop app is installed
opened the db on the desktop
set the sync options (you have to install the conduit - go to Tools -> PalmOS -> Hotsync Setup & click on install conduit)
choose the database you are syncing with in the same dialog
change the default hotsync action to synchronize
use the default action on the database
HOTSYNC your device


Hope that helps. :)

Hopefully Jan will make some of these settings the default when the app finally comes out.

Treo Musketeer
07-10-2008, 05:23 PM
Kudos Cyberdude! Jan should let you write an addendum for the manual.

Treo Musketeer
07-10-2008, 09:32 PM
I wish we had an icon category for Hotel Clubs. I belong to more of them then Frequent Flyer airlines. I entered them each as Free Text, so that will suffice for now. Would be nice to either be able to import new icons or create them for personal use in IDGuard.

STBXXL
07-11-2008, 01:01 AM
Not sure what you did. I did the following and had no problems whatsoever:

installed Beta on PC and handheld
changed the password on the handheld to upgrade DB
copied the DB to the all users -> applications -> idguard folder (had to create that myself) This should be done when the Desktop app is installed
opened the db on the desktop
set the sync options (you have to install the conduit - go to Tools -> PalmOS -> Hotsync Setup & click on install conduit)
choose the database you are syncing with in the same dialog
change the default hotsync action to synchronize
use the default action on the database
HOTSYNC your device


Hope that helps. :)

Hopefully Jan will make some of these settings the default when the app finally comes out.

Thanks for the info. I figured it out myself. I did basically the same as you described above.

The problem was that I never ever had used IDGuard before. So there was not datasource on my Treo that needed an update to version 2. The problem was that I created the datasource first on the PC side and entered some test data. The hotsync would just not work. Once I created the datasource on my 755p first and then conducted a hotsync the synching would just work fine. Go figure! This is very repeatable on my system. So I already left a few messages on Resco's own forum.

I'm still having some minor issues that attached files won't transfer in either direction (i.e. attached files on the PC side don't show up on the Treo and viceversa).

Cheers.

cyberdude
07-11-2008, 08:44 AM
Thanks for the info. I figured it out myself. I did basically the same as you described above.

The problem was that I never ever had used IDGuard before. So there was not datasource on my Treo that needed an update to version 2. The problem was that I created the datasource first on the PC side and entered some test data. The hotsync would just not work. Once I created the datasource on my 755p first and then conducted a hotsync the synching would just work fine. Go figure! This is very repeatable on my system. So I already left a few messages on Resco's own forum.

I'm still having some minor issues that attached files won't transfer in either direction (i.e. attached files on the PC side don't show up on the Treo and viceversa).

Cheers.
Glad it mostly worked for you. I haven't tested the files part of the desktop/conduit. I do like that aspect of idguard although I haven't used it much.

cyberdude
07-11-2008, 08:47 AM
Kudos Cyberdude! Jan should let you write an addendum for the manual.
Luckily he incorporated a bunch of my early suggestions in this release.
I wish we had an icon category for Hotel Clubs. I belong to more of them then Frequent Flyer airlines. I entered them each as Free Text, so that will suffice for now. Would be nice to either be able to import new icons or create them for personal use in IDGuard.
I made this suggestion when Jan first sent me the resco desktop beta pre version 1. He did add a number of icons, but not the ability to create your own sets. Hopefully this will be another feature incorporated in the final release.

janos
07-11-2008, 10:06 AM
Not sure what you did. I did the following and had no problems whatsoever:

installed Beta on PC and handheld
changed the password on the handheld to upgrade DB
copied the DB to the all users -> applications -> idguard folder (had to create that myself) This should be done when the Desktop app is installed
opened the db on the desktop
set the sync options (you have to install the conduit - go to Tools -> PalmOS -> Hotsync Setup & click on install conduit)
choose the database you are syncing with in the same dialog
change the default hotsync action to synchronize
use the default action on the database
HOTSYNC your device


Hope that helps. :)

Hopefully Jan will make some of these settings the default when the app finally comes out.

Thanks, Tom.
I believe, meanwhile the process got simpler.

b) is replaced by a simple prompt in the login dialog.

c) The folder is created automatically and the Palm Data Source gets copied into this folder during the Hotsync.

f,g) Not needed as the default sync action is set to synchronize

So the suggested procedure for the latest release looks like this:

Palm OS side:
a) Make sure you use the latest IDGuard release
b) Open the Data Source and check if the Login dialog contains the prompt (checkbox) Upgrade Data Source Version. If yes, set it on.

PC side:
a) Make sure you use the latest IDGuard release
b) Menu > Tools > Palm OS > Hotsync setup: Install IDGuard conduit

The last step is a Hotsync. (Note that it is a good idea to exit IDGuard before the Hotsync.)

Here is how to check the Hotsync:
a) Right click the Hotsync icon in the system tray and select Custom.... IDGuard should be listed and you can press the Change... button to see the setup dialog.

b) Check the contents of the Hotsync log (right click the Hotsync icon) to see the info about the IDGuard conduit activity.

We are still thinking how to streamline the process even more. An open thing for example is the coexistence of the IDGuard and Hotsync. I guess the user might expect to see the Hotsync changes applied to the running IDGuard. This will be probably done in the next few days.

Best regards

janos
07-11-2008, 10:15 AM
Luckily he incorporated a bunch of my early suggestions in this release.

I made this suggestion when Jan first sent me the resco desktop beta pre version 1. He did add a number of icons, but not the ability to create your own sets. Hopefully this will be another feature incorporated in the final release.

Yes... We did it on the PDA side and then started to think about the synchronization. It looks pretty complicated (it involves syncing of the binary files and even image resizing) and for the time being we put it aside and even disabled the Palm OS code.

cyberdude
07-11-2008, 10:25 AM
Jan,

Sorry to hear about the icons thing, but great to hear you streamlined the process. I've been using IDGuard since it came out and have now completely converted to it as the desktop component (IMO, the only piece that held it back from beating out SplashID) is working nicely.

Treo Musketeer
07-11-2008, 06:14 PM
I created a shortcut on my PC for IDGuard, but the only problem is that it asks me each time I click on it, if I want to run the program, since the publisher cannot be verified. Its not really a problem, just an inconvenience. If I say, don't ask anymore, then I don't get asked for my IDGuard password. Anyone got any tips on how to eliminate that message?

Also, there is no way, that I can find, to verify what version the desktop is. I downloaded the new version, but am not sure that it copied over the existing version. Any hints as to how to verify that? Thanks.

Stu

BTW, I did go into my conduits and discovered that although the IDGuard conduit was there it did not automatically check itself. So, if anyone is having problems with the actual hotsync, make sure that the box is checked.

Treo Musketeer
07-11-2008, 06:47 PM
Yes... We did it on the PDA side and then started to think about the synchronization. It looks pretty complicated (it involves syncing of the binary files and even image resizing) and for the time being we put it aside and even disabled the Palm OS code.


How about a compromise of just adding say, five generic icons, that can be used by the consumer for whatever? That way they will be the same on both the desktop and the device. Just an idea.

scottl
07-12-2008, 12:05 AM
FYI, the beta version has quietly bumped up to v2.01.2 and still found at the link in Jan's message in post #8 (http://www.1src.com/forums/showpost.php?p=1051883&postcount=8) above.

palmuse
07-12-2008, 11:09 AM
Quick question: I have not tried this new desktop app yet. I do not Hotsync. Is there any use for this outside of Hotsync'ng? That is to say, can I copy the pdb file to/from the PC directly with any edits from my Palm/PC? Is the data transfered or the pdb during Hotsync?

Thanks.

cyberdude
07-14-2008, 09:38 AM
Quick question: I have not tried this new desktop app yet. I do not Hotsync. Is there any use for this outside of Hotsync'ng? That is to say, can I copy the pdb file to/from the PC directly with any edits from my Palm/PC? Is the data transfered or the pdb during Hotsync?

Thanks.
You can copy it, but without the desktop component you can't read it. Also you will have a problem if you do use the desktop app and make changes in both the desktop database and the palm database and don't do a hotsync.
I created a shortcut on my PC for IDGuard, but the only problem is that it asks me each time I click on it, if I want to run the program, since the publisher cannot be verified. Its not really a problem, just an inconvenience. If I say, don't ask anymore, then I don't get asked for my IDGuard password. Anyone got any tips on how to eliminate that message?
I noticed the same thing and put it down to my own computer security.

palmuse
07-14-2008, 06:48 PM
You can copy it, but without the desktop component you can't read it. Also you will have a problem if you do use the desktop app and make changes in both the desktop database and the palm database and don't do a hotsync.

Thanks, cyberdude. That is good to know. I will give it a try soon.

Treo Musketeer
07-22-2008, 05:28 PM
The desktop Beta was updated again today. Just an FYI.

STBXXL
07-22-2008, 06:51 PM
The desktop Beta was updated again today. Just an FYI.

Strange. I still only see version 2.01.3 posted on July 18th on their web page...

Treo Musketeer
07-22-2008, 09:01 PM
That is true. However, when you download the files and extract them, you'll see that they are dated today. Evidently they forgot to update the revision. Also in one of Jan's posts in the Resco forum, he hints at having updated it.

STBXXL
07-22-2008, 10:11 PM
I'm sorry, but I cannot confirm that. I just downloaded the 2.01.3 ZIP archive again two minutes ago (with two different browsers). All *.exe and *.prc files inside the archive are dated July 18, 2008. They are 100% identical to the ones I downloaded last Friday (I ran a compare by content check).

Perhaps they pulled it again?

Cheers.

tosbsas
07-22-2008, 11:37 PM
yep,same here

Ruben

Treo Musketeer
07-23-2008, 08:49 AM
Well, I promise that is what it says on mine (although the app still says .3 beta). I have no motivation to make something like that up. When I downloaded it, it said it was from the earlier date, but when I did the extract, the prc, the conduit, and the desktop app were all updated yesterday. Weird.

Anyway, I will say that I had considerable problems with it trying to get it to sync. I had to delete the old database file from both the device and the desktop (after saving the new revised db on the desktop and then set the desktop to override the device) before the sync would finally work. Perhaps that is why they pulled it, or perhaps I am hallucinating.

STBXXL
07-23-2008, 09:41 AM
Based on your description it looks like this version had some issues and therefore it was pulled. I hope you didn't have much trouble getting your setup stable again.

Cheers.

janos
07-23-2008, 10:11 AM
I created a shortcut on my PC for IDGuard, but the only problem is that it asks me each time I click on it, if I want to run the program, since the publisher cannot be verified. Its not really a problem, just an inconvenience. If I say, don't ask anymore, then I don't get asked for my IDGuard password. Anyone got any tips on how to eliminate that message?

Maybe this helps:
http://www.intelliadmin.com/blog/2006/10/why-some-shortcuts-say-publisher.html

We could basically confirm what that article states, i.e. the problem happens 1) with XP
2) If IDGuard is on a network share
3) If Local Intranet security is at least medium (high level does not allow IDGuard launching)

However, I did not se "don't ask anymore" prompt.

Also, there is no way, that I can find, to verify what version the desktop is.

About dialog or the file (IDGuardDesktop.exe) properties - Version info.
The conduit writes the version in the setup dialog.

BTW, I did go into my conduits and discovered that although the IDGuard conduit was there it did not automatically check itself. So, if anyone is having problems with the actual hotsync, make sure that the box is checked.
Do you mean the settings on the PDA? (Hotsync application > Menu > Conduit setup)
It looks like this setting is ignored by Hotsync manager - at least on the devices I tested.

janos
07-23-2008, 10:25 AM
How about a compromise of just adding say, five generic icons, that can be used by the consumer for whatever? That way they will be the same on both the desktop and the device. Just an idea.

Meanwhile I spent quite a few hours investigating the icon sets, in particular the icl format, which seems to be quite popular on the desktop.

However, icl lists are mostly (if not all - I did not find a counter-example) written in the old 16-bit format and their reading is quite complex. This would have to wait for future.

On the Palm side the solution is the ZLauncher icon set format. This could be eventually used for the PC, too, but only if there are some free icon sets. If you know about such sets, let me know please.

janos
07-23-2008, 10:43 AM
I do not Hotsync. Is there any use for this outside of Hotsync'ng? That is to say, can I copy the pdb file to/from the PC directly with any edits from my Palm/PC? Is the data transfered or the pdb during Hotsync?
To explain the possibilities:

a) Hotsync with IDG conduit has full synchronization, i.e. the changes are propagated to the other side record by record.

b) Hotsync without IDG conduit. (I.e. the conduit is not installed.)
Hotsync performs backup copy of the IDG databases. (This copy is not done when IDG conduit is installed.)

Desktop IDG can "import" these databases:
Menu > Tools > Palm OS > Advanced > Import...

This is a kind of one-way copy. Alternatively, you could open the password database from the Hotsync backup folder, but then you can't edit it. (Or the next Hotsync will overwrite the changes.)

c) Hotsync not used at all.
In such case you need to copy password DB between PC and PDA. For example Resco Explorer (with the LAN connectivity) can do such a copy.
The copying is possible because the PC IDG uses .pdb format, which is the format of the Palm OS databases copied on the disk/card.

All above processes ignore the attachments. Next version (soon) will support attachment exchange in case a).
Case b) will further on ignore attachments. (As they are ignored by the Hotsync process.)
Case c): While manual handling is possible, it is too complex.

janos
07-23-2008, 10:47 AM
That is true. However, when you download the files and extract them, you'll see that they are dated today. Evidently they forgot to update the revision. Also in one of Jan's posts in the Resco forum, he hints at having updated it.
Well, there was no update since Friday. We have couple of new things, but did not release them yet. 2.01.3 is the last version.

janos
07-23-2008, 10:54 AM
I had considerable problems with it trying to get it to sync. I had to delete the old database file from both the device and the desktop (after saving the new revised db on the desktop and then set the desktop to override the device) before the sync would finally work.
Can you please give some description of the problems involved? Maybe the error text from the Hotsync log?

Most probably we need to improve the program messages.

Treo Musketeer
07-23-2008, 05:34 PM
Well I do apologize for the misinformation. I went and looked back in the contents and those files still show as modifed on 7/22/08 at 6:18 and 6:19. Not sure why. Anyway, here is a copy of the error logs from the hotsync

1st Hotsync:

Local Data Source [IDGuardDefault~] cannot be synced. Please upgrade its format. You can do so when opening the Data Source or through changing the password.

Device Date Source [IDGUARDDefault~] cannot be synced. Please upgrade Data Source format using IDGuard for Palm OS v2.

Copy [IDGUARDDefault~] To Desktop.

~Ok

Description of outcome: No change on either end in database. I then deleted current desktop shortcut, and replaced it with most recent download's new shortcut and re-renabled the conduit. I opened the data source on the desktop and was able to easily change the format. I didn't follow the instructions for the Device Data Source in the log message (especially since I had just updated the prc file), so I compared the two databases and noticed that one was called simply "default" and the other IDGUARDDefault. So I set the conduit to have desktop over-ride the device to see if that would put the new database file on the device and hotsynced again.

Hotsync 2 Log:

IDGuard Synchronization Aborted.

Device Date Source [IDGUARDDefault~] cannot be synced. Please upgrade Data Source format using IDGuard for Palm OS v2.

Copy [IDGUARDDefault~] To Device

~Ok

Copy [IDGUARDDefault~] To Device

Sync NewToDevice Failed: Can't create the database - another DB with the same namealready exists on the handheld.

Conduit 'IDGuard' Error: Unknown Error. (65535).

Description of events: At this point I gave up on the directions and simply deleted the database from the device and resynced and it worked fine.

A separate issue is that I sync both my 755p and my T/X to my PC. When I synced my T/X today, the IDGuard desktop tried to sync with it as well, even though I did not ask it too (I do have an older version of IDGuard on my T/X).

Hope that helps,

Stu

Treo Musketeer
07-23-2008, 05:40 PM
Maybe this helps:
http://www.intelliadmin.com/blog/2006/10/why-some-shortcuts-say-publisher.html

We could basically confirm what that article states, i.e. the problem happens 1) with XP Interesting article and it all applies to me, except I have Vista.
2) If IDGuard is on a network share
3) If Local Intranet security is at least medium (high level does not allow IDGuard launching)

However, I did not se "don't ask anymore" prompt. Perhaps this is new to the Vista version or to the most recent versions of Internet Explorer?


About dialog or the file (IDGuardDesktop.exe) properties - Version info.
The conduit writes the version in the setup dialog. I was using an older beta version when I wrote this comment and did not see an "about" in the desktop, but did notice it in the new beta.

Do you mean the settings on the PDA? (Hotsync application > Menu > Conduit setup)
It looks like this setting is ignored by Hotsync manager - at least on the devices I tested. No, I looked into the Hotsync App on the desktop and noticed that IDGuard was checked but was set to "do nothing," as a default. Here again though, this was with an older beta (I didn't see this problem in the new beta) and may have been due to something stupid I did. Although I didn't change the Hotsync Manager.

Treo Musketeer
07-23-2008, 05:48 PM
Meanwhile I spent quite a few hours investigating the icon sets, in particular the icl format, which seems to be quite popular on the desktop.

However, icl lists are mostly (if not all - I did not find a counter-example) written in the old 16-bit format and their reading is quite complex. This would have to wait for future.

On the Palm side the solution is the ZLauncher icon set format. This could be eventually used for the PC, too, but only if there are some free icon sets. If you know about such sets, let me know please.


Sorry to hear this. You're talking over my head about icons. Have you looked at the freeware icon sets or IconPack Creation Kit that are being distributed with TouchLauncher? Not sure if they would work on both PCs and devices either.

http://ahsirg.kvplab.com/dp/?q=node/13

janos
07-28-2008, 02:57 PM
We have just released next iteration and it is really pretty close to the final version. Basically we plan mainly some more testing.

Main news:
- Internal attachment viewer supports these additional file types: png, pdf.
- "Additive" attachment synchronization: I.e. attachments are added, updated (if there was a change), but never deleted - The delete must be done manually and on both sides.
- Improved clipboard support.
- Optimized drawing and a lot of smaller changes

There are 2 big questions that will be put aside for the time being:

- User-definable icons. (A lot of work, but I realize that this feature is rather important.)

- Internal viewer of MS Office documents. (I would like to know how many of you consider this feature as important. It basically means that doc/xls files would be opened in a window with limited tools, but the workflow would not leave IDGuard, i.e. it would be considerably safer. And faster, too.)

Installation remarks:

- All 3 components should be installed - desktop, conduit, prc.

- Those who are used to the zip installer can use this download link:
http://resco.net/palm/IDGuard/downloads/IDGuard_2_01_4_BETA.zip

- There is also the exe installer http://resco.net/downloads/palm/IDGuard/IDGuardWindowsInstaller.exe
It is simpler, but (unlike the zip installer) does not allow to choose the install folder.

New pdf manual is included.

Looking forward to your comments.

Treo Musketeer
07-28-2008, 03:21 PM
I'd be interested in the safe mode for DTG documents (particularly with Word). I take a lot of notes on my TX with Word at meetings that are HIPAA protected (NOTE: HIPAA is a law that was passed ensuring that all personal health data of clients is protected from accidental disclosure, which would include theft, finding a lost TX, etc.). So yes, I'm very interested even with limited features. Thanks.

cyberdude
07-28-2008, 03:24 PM
Just downloaded it and am trying it now. Realized after I tried a hotsync that I need to change the password again before it will convert database.

janos
07-28-2008, 03:38 PM
I'd be interested in the safe mode for DTG documents (particularly with Word). I take a lot of notes on my TX with Word at meetings that are HIPAA protected (NOTE: HIPAA is a law that was passed ensuring that all personal health data of clients is protected from accidental disclosure, which would include theft, finding a lost TX, etc.). So yes, I'm very interested even with limited features. Thanks.
We passed basic tests, so let's see. So far older Office versions work, but Office 2007 needs something different. Let's see. But even if it wasn't included now, this feature will be definitelly added soon.

janos
07-28-2008, 03:41 PM
Just downloaded it and am trying it now. Realized after I tried a hotsync that I need to change the password again before it will convert database.
To be fair, I do not remember. In any case - if a conversion is needed, then it will be shown in the Login dialog as a checkbox "Upgrade etc.".

scottl
07-28-2008, 08:02 PM
Integrated Office file viewing would be nice. Much more than I would expect from this product, but very convenient nonetheless.

janos
07-29-2008, 04:15 AM
Just downloaded it and am trying it now. Realized after I tried a hotsync that I need to change the password again before it will convert database.
I double-checked: The last format change was in the previous release. I hope the format is already stable.

On the other hand there is one new thing that might have confused you:
Because of the attachment synchronization IDGuard for Palm OS "remembers" the card. (There is a new menu command Select Card. The purpose is to prevent unwanted attachment duplication if a wrong card happens to be inserted.)

IDGuard for Palm OS must be run at least once so that the first card selection is initialized. I just noted that if this is not done the Hotsync log shows confusing error text "Missing card". This will be replaced.

cyberdude
07-29-2008, 08:31 AM
I double-checked: The last format change was in the previous release. I hope the format is already stable.

On the other hand there is one new thing that might have confused you:
Because of the attachment synchronization IDGuard for Palm OS "remembers" the card. (There is a new menu command Select Card. The purpose is to prevent unwanted attachment duplication if a wrong card happens to be inserted.)

IDGuard for Palm OS must be run at least once so that the first card selection is initialized. I just noted that if this is not done the Hotsync log shows confusing error text "Missing card". This will be replaced.
After I upgraded the idguard desktop and palmos app, I did a hotsync and saw this message in my hotsync log:

IDGuard 07/28/08 16:16:38
Local Data Source [IDGuardmain] cannot be synced. Please upgrade its format. You can do so when opening the Data Source or through changing the password.
OK IDGuard with 1 message(s)
After changing the password on the database file and copying the new db to the desktop (so they would have the same password), sync worked fine.

STBXXL
07-29-2008, 11:27 AM
We have just released next iteration and it is really pretty close to the final version. Basically we plan mainly some more testing.

Main news:
- Internal attachment viewer supports these additional file types: png, pdf.
- "Additive" attachment synchronization: I.e. attachments are added, updated (if there was a change), but never deleted - The delete must be done manually and on both sides.
- Improved clipboard support.
- Optimized drawing and a lot of smaller changes

Hi Jan,
thanks for adding all my requested features (posted on Resco's forum). So far I don't have found any issues. But I will continue testing.


There are 2 big questions that will be put aside for the time being:

- User-definable icons. (A lot of work, but I realize that this feature is rather important.)

- Internal viewer of MS Office documents. (I would like to know how many of you consider this feature as important. It basically means that doc/xls files would be opened in a window with limited tools, but the workflow would not leave IDGuard, i.e. it would be considerably safer. And faster, too.)

Yes, I would like to see user definable icons at some point. I personally do not need an internal viewer of MS Office documents.

Cheers.

cyberdude
07-29-2008, 11:47 AM
Although I would not necessarily need the office internal viewer, the icons were something I requested way back and would love to see.

On another note, I notice splashID is an item in palm desktop, while IDGuard is not. Although I don't use palm desktop that often, it is nice to have that icon there to launch the app. Any chance this might be put on the todo list?

janos
07-31-2008, 05:09 AM
Although I would not necessarily need the office internal viewer, the icons were something I requested way back and would love to see.
Icons will be there, although I am not sure if we manage it for this release. We decided to make an external icon list editor that would accept any ICL file input and the result could be used both on the desktop and on Palm OS.

On another note, I notice splashID is an item in palm desktop, while IDGuard is not. Although I don't use palm desktop that often, it is nice to have that icon there to launch the app. Any chance this might be put on the todo list?
We do not count on this, sorry. Proper integration into the Palm Desktop is rather difficult (Unlike SplashID we have dialog-based application and converting it to SDI-interface would be very painfull.) and just adding an icon that would start IDGuard does not bring much.

scottl
07-31-2008, 09:24 AM
Hey cyberdude, check this out...

I decided to play with this for a few minutes and was able to make an app appear in the Palm Desktop (PDT) and then launch it. After searching files and registry, I found only the registry held the custom icons in PDT. I have *NO IDEA* what bad side effects may results, but here's how I added a Windows WordPad launchable icon to the PDT under Windows XP.

Check the key below (in bold) in regedit to find the first available Application or give a little buffer as I did with Application20. Then add the entries below or cut & paste the entire small, red, italicized text into a file with a .reg extension. Double click the .reg file to import it to your registry. Launch the PDT and you should see a new icon on the left panel called WordPad.

Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00

[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\U.S. Robotics\Pilot Desktop\Application20]
"Name"="WordPad"
"Module"="C:\\WINDOWS\\system32\\write.exe"
"Creator"=dword:00000000
"Integrate"=dword:00000001

Use this format to add IDGuard or whatever else you want. I copied the entry from ThoughtManager (another Palm app that made an icon on the PDT) and pulled keys to get the bare minimum required to work. The need for Name and Module are fairly obvious. The icon didn't appear without Integrate and Creator. I changed the Dreator ID number and figured/hoped a zero value was safe - that's where I foresee the most possible danger from this little hack.

Have fun!

janos
08-01-2008, 04:55 AM
Hey cyberdude, check this out...

Thanks, you kicked me to try it, too. However, I think that different entries have to be used:

Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00

[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\U.S. Robotics\Pilot Desktop\ShortCuts\All Users\IDGuard]
"ActionString"="c:\\Program Files\\Resco\\IDGuard\\IDGuardDesktop.exe"
"AppBarText"="IDGuard"
"Arguments"=""
"Creator"=dword:52313233
"Integrate"=dword:00000001
"MenuText"="IDGuard"

The procedure to test:

1. Copy the red text into SomeFile.reg
2. Replace the path (ActionString) with your IDGuard location
3. Open Regedit (Start command prompt and type regedit<Enter>)
4. RegEdit > Main menu > Import Registry File
5. If you want, you can browse the registry tree to see that the entry was added.
6. If you start Palm Desktop, IDGuard icon should be in the left panel.

To uninstall you need to delete the created registry entry:
1. Start regedit.
2. Find HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\U.S. Robotics\Pilot Desktop\ShortCuts\All Users\IDGuard
3. Press Delete

Alternatively you can click the IDGuard icon in the Palm Desktop and select Hide. (However, this is a GUI solution - registry entry is not deleted.)

Would be great if some of you could test this procedure. I did it on W2000. Moreover, I checked the registry format on XP and Vista.

We shall add a menu option for Palm Desktop integration.

janos
08-01-2008, 10:31 AM
Adding new features is a never ending story, but at this moment IDGuard v2 is officially released.

Here are the main news of v2.01.5 (all concerning the desktop):

- Internal viewer for mp3, wav, wma, asf, avi, wmv based on the Media Player.

- Internal viewer for doc(x), xls(x) and ppt(x) attachments.

- GUI: Menu icons, nicer locking, new help

- To plug in IDGuard to the Palm Desktop use Menu > Tools > Palm OS > Advanced > Palm Desktop Integration (The procedure discussed above was realized.)

As you see, again quite a few user requests were added. And the biggest one - custom icons is on the way. I'll give you a progress report tomorrow.

Some P.R. wouldn't be bad. We plan to push IDGuard as a standalone desktop solution, too. (Later PPC etc.) Any help in this respect will be greatly appreciated.

The download link is here (http://webpreview/palm/idguard/downloads.asp).

Thanks to all who helped to perfectionate this release.

tosbsas
08-01-2008, 04:47 PM
link is wrong,should be here

http://www.resco.net/palm/idguard/default.asp

janos
08-01-2008, 04:57 PM
Thanks, of course. It wasn't the first time that I pointed to our intranet :-(

tosbsas
08-01-2008, 05:00 PM
its on palmaddicts

http://palmaddict.typepad.com/palmaddicts/

Ruben

janos
08-25-2008, 04:30 PM
For those who would like to help us and test the new version, here is the link:
http://www.resco.net/palm/IDGuard/downloads/IDGuard_2_02_0.zip

Main news

Custom Icons
You need to use the utility IconListBuilder.exe (part of the zip installer), which creates custom icons. This list can then be installed to the handheld using the Tools > Palm OS menu.
The builder basically collects the icons from the *.icl files that are freely available on the web. One such file is included in the zip installer, too.

While we tested quite a few icl files, we cannot exclude that some of them use format that is not supported by IDGuard. If you find such a file, it would be great if you could send it to palm@resco-net.com.

Another question concerns the load speed of the custom list at the handheld. Our tests indicate that the TX will be fast enough, while 80 icons on T650 took 1-1.5 sec.

Other news

- Backup/Restore (Tools menu) enable to create safety copies of your data.
Created backup sets can be located on any accessible drive.

- New imports - Dataviz Password Plus, Ultrasoft Datashield

- Improved Templates editor

- Improved UI plus a lot of less important improvements.

Palm OS side

Basically the icon list support plus a few small improvements.

Please, let us know what do you think.

STBXXL
08-25-2008, 04:55 PM
Thanks for the update and the great new features. But I just downloaded the ZIP archive but don't see IconListBuilder.exe included.

Also, can you please tell whether the Backup feature also includes file attachments?

tosbsas
08-25-2008, 06:57 PM
I am still missing the chance to determine where db shold be saved on Computer -want to go away from c:\ partition

Ruben

scottl
08-25-2008, 07:11 PM
The update sounds good. It's nice to see more imports, but still no Keyring... I will most likely purchase the Suite before the discount deal ends, but would make the jump for certain as soon as I saw Keyring import - I dread transferring all that data manually.

janos
08-26-2008, 03:37 AM
I just downloaded the ZIP archive but don't see IconListBuilder.exe included.
I apologize, it is fixed meanwhile. Please download again using the same URL (http://www.resco.net/palm/IDGuard/downloads/IDGuard_2_02_0.zip)

Also, can you please tell whether the Backup feature also includes file attachments?
Yes, it does.

janos
08-26-2008, 03:38 AM
I am still missing the chance to determine where db shold be saved on Computer -want to go away from c:\ partition

Not enough time, sorry. But the backup feature partially compensates it. At least I hope so.

janos
08-26-2008, 03:57 AM
The update sounds good. It's nice to see more imports, but still no Keyring...
Can you educate me concerning Keyring? I see they have version 0 and 1 and the old downloads section lists even prerelease v2!!!

Moreover, it was just this version mix-up that lead us to the Keyring refusal - different versions used different export formats. I do not remember all details at the moment.

tosbsas
08-26-2008, 07:45 AM
Backup does the job, kind of (:-))

Ruben

scottl
08-26-2008, 11:26 AM
Can you educate me concerning Keyring?I can't tell you a lot about the product of formats. I've used it for a while along with the java desktop component.

"different versions used different export formats" - ouch... I can see why you held back on this. I have installed prerelease 2 over v1 and so could others. That way if you added the option to import Keyring PR2 everyone would (should) be happy. I understand if you don't work this feature in though.

janos
08-27-2008, 10:01 AM
The final release is on the web.

Contains substantially improved IconListBuilder. (Discovers incomplete icons or wrong icon sizes, uses better icon samples etc.)

Use please the official download page (http://www.resco.net/palm/idguard/downloads.asp). (The link I listed previously was canceled.)