Dial from built in AdressBook

[Unregistered]

Is there any possibility to dial phone numbers via bluetooth from the built in adressbook?
Is there any adressbook-software that can do this?

[TreoRenegade]

The good news is yes. The bad news is that I can not recall precisely where I read the specifics at this site. Run a search for, say, phone AND dial AND bluetooth - thru all boards here.

TreoRenegade

[paxton]

I use SuperNames 2.1 and it works very well with my Siemens S55. Just installed the phonedrivers from sony and that was it...

[paxton]

BTW. Don't know if it works, but I've read something about BtToggle 1.7b1 and built in adressbook BT dialing...

[darkness]

Actually the built-in address book supports dialling, but it's not as well implemented as the Tungsten T, which simply requires the user to press the right arrow key. Anyway, the steps for TG50:

1. Launch Address app (duh!)
2. Go to menu (press and hold menu key)
3. Go to Options -> Preferences...
4. Check "Enable Tap-dialling or Tap E-Mail Address"
5. Tap "OK"

Now, when you view a record, you can simply tap the phone number you want to dial and the dialling dialog box will appear. BUT before all that works, you have to go to Pref app and select your Phone under the "Phone" tab.

[ulivotsch]

Thanks darkness!
I did everything like you described it!
If I tap on an e-mail-adress, it opens a dialog to send e-mails, but if I tap on a phone-number, nothing happens, but I can edit the whole adress-entry again.
It seems, that another application for the dialing is required for that. Do you know what is wrong here?
Thanks!

[Reggie]

You need to setup Prefs->Phone first. If you are connecting to a bluetooth phone, make sure you have setup Prefs->Bluetooth to include your phone in the trusted list, and both of your phone and tg's bluetooth is on.

If you need phone drivers, download them from this link:

http://www.palm.com/support/accessories/sms.html

[ulivotsch]

Yes, I have a phonedriver installed, and the phone is paired with the clie, but it shows the behavior above!

[Eduardo]

Thanks for the hint but the same happens to me. I can automatically type an e-mail by doing so but no phone dialling so far !

My phone (T68i) is configured to work with the TG50. I can send SMS and navigate thru the web. Any missing clues ?

Eduardo

[TreoRenegade]

OK, ran a search. This listing of threads has detailed info:
http://snurl.com/1d8c

TreoRenegade

[Reggie]

Alright here are the steps:

1. Download and install the T68i phone driver (http://www.cliesource.net/files/Sony-E-T68i.prc) on your TG/NZ.
2. In your T68i, go to Connect->Bluetooth->Discoverable
3. In your TG/NZ, go to Prefs->Connection
4. Select "BT to Sony-E. T68i" and click "Edit..."
5. Select box to the right of Device. This will search for your T68i and should find it since we have set it to discoverable in step 2.
6. Add T68i to paired devices.
7. Click 'Yes' when asked to make the phone as the default for phone applications.
8. To test the connection, go to Prefs->Phone. The deafult now should be "BT to Sony-E. T68i". Click on "Test". You should get a Test OK message.
9. Run the Address application.
10. Under Options->Preferences, make sure Enable Tap Dialing is checked. Click OK.
11. Click on a contact name and on the contact details, click on a phone number.
12. The Dial Number window should come up. Click on the correct number, if different, and click Dial.

That's it!

Tell us if this works.

[xenna]

Originally posted by Reggie
Alright here are the steps:

1. Download and install the T68i phone driver (http://www.cliesource.net/files/Sony-E-T68i.prc) on your TG/NZ.


Mmm, that's a different T68i driver than the one I'm using (although the name is the same), I'm going to give it a try...

I have the same problem as described above. Tapping on e-mail addresses works (launching snapper) but tapping on phone numbers sends me to the addr book editor...

It's very frustrating.

X.

[xenna]

OK, I installed the 'new' T68i file (it's very irritating that there are apparently 2 files with the same name and no version numbering, where one is 9Kb and the other 15!)

It doesn't make any difference, still no tap-dialling. BT SMS & BT data over GPRS works fine with the T68i. What is wrong???

X.

[ulivotsch]

Same with me and the nokia 6310i. Everything works! But if I click on a phone-number in a contact, it opens the adressbook editor!
If I click on an e-mail-adress, it opens the dialog to send e-mail correctly.
Whats wrong with dialing?

[ulivotsch]

Can anybody who got that thing work tellme what version of adressbook he has? Mine is V4.51S.
There is even not the "dial" function to select from the menu as described in the handbook!
I just called the clie-support, and they also wondered, why it does not work. The forwarded the problem now to the engeneering-department, and they will call me back.
I guess that I have an old version of adressbook on my tg50, that does not support it!

[xenna]

Originally posted by Reggie
Alright here are the steps:

7. Click 'Yes' when asked to make the phone as the default for phone applications.


This step is missing in my setup. My TG50 never asks for this. Maybe that's the key to the problem.

Are you sure you used the 15Kb T68i driver you mention above? I also have a 16Kb one (not sure what the difference is).

X.

[xenna]

I have the same version of the AddrBk and it does not work either.

[Eduardo]

Same for me, and I have exactly the same version of address book stated on the previous message.

I have strictly followed the guidelines but no automation of dialling was obtained, although in the preferences I did check the auto dialling thing.

Eduardo

[ulivotsch]

Would be interesting to hear from somebody where it works, what version he has!

[xenna]

I just got off the phone with Clie Support and you'll be interested to know that Tap-Dialing is *not* a feature of the TG50. So, you guys who have it working should know that it is not possible...

[ulivotsch]

Interesting, since it is described in my TG50s Handbook!

[xenna]

Originally posted by ulivotsch
Interesting, since it is described in my TG50s Handbook!

Could you tell me exactly where it is mentioned? I've searched the handbook.pdf for 'dialling' and 'dialing' but no relevant match.

[ulivotsch]

It is in the application manual on the CD. In the manual for the adress-book there is a decription of the adressbook menu items, and there it says under the "record" menu there is a featur "dial" to select. Which is not in mine!
And in the options-menu there is also the tap-dialing feature described!
The link of the html-handbook regarding that on my CD:
E:\Manuals\EN\CLIE_Application_Manual\CLIE_application_manual\00_nav\nav_f2300.html

[xenna]

Yeah, I found it now and phoned Sony support again (slightly irritated this thime) and told them that the TG50 *does* support Dialing.

They'll get back to me...

COuld one of the people for which it does work confirm that they *are* using a TG50 *and* a T68i, please?

X.

[TOts]

Yup I can confirm this. Using a T68i with firmware version R7A013. Perhaps it could be a phone firmware issue? Whats your phone firmware version? I have heard that earlier versions of the T68i have bluetooth stability issues. Try flashing it to the newest firmware.

My TG50/G is from Sony Singapore.

Unfortunately, it doesnt have FLASH RAM!!! :(

[ulivotsch]

No, it has nothing to do with the phone. I am trying with a nokia 6310i, latest firmware. The problem is, that the feature of dialing is not available in the adressbook!

[Eduardo]

No, it has nothing to do with the phone, as I used the same phone with a Palm T and it did work. In fact for the e-mail thing it works fine and that is for all of this list, but for dialling it doesn't. That means that not even you are requested if you want to dial, as you are requested to type an e-mail, so there is no output to the phone from the address book.

Eduardo

[Eduardo]

I have also found the description of a automatic dialling (by clicking on the number) in the manual as stated in a previous message. However, it seems to me that there are certain options I do not have in my address application. It may be due to a different version of the software. Mine is Version 4.51S and a TG50 European version.

Eduardo

[Eduardo]

Just a last precision... the size of my address application is 40kb. in french version.

What size have yours, especially those who have it working fully ?

Eduardo

[aarecordati]

Paxton, how do you dial via bluetooth in supernames? I tried to figure it out, but can't get it.... help please...

[Reggie]

Originally posted by xenna


I have the same problem as described above. Tapping on e-mail addresses works (launching snapper) but tapping on phone numbers sends me to the addr book editor...

X.

Does your Address app have the option described in step 10?

Sorry I can't check the Address app version now since I'm using my NX. When I get back home, I'll check the version. By the way, I've setup Tap Dialing on my NZ and the TG and they both work.

[paxton]

Originally posted by aarecordati
Paxton, how do you dial via bluetooth in supernames? I tried to figure it out, but can't get it.... help please...

I've installed the phonedrivers from sony and if I tap on the icons next to the address book entries I get a pop up menus with "dial direct" and "dial via dialog"...

[ulivotsch]

Reggie, what version of the TG50 do you have? U.S. or Europe?
Would appreciate it if you tell us the version of you adressbook then!

[xenna]

Originally posted by Reggie


Does your Address app have the option described in step 10?


Yes except that it is called: "Enable Tap-Dialling or Tap-E-mail-Address". I also lack the 'Dial' option in the Record menu.

After installing, re-trusting and selecting my T68i a few times I think I saw the 'Do you want to use this device as a default for phone apps?' option come by once.

BTW: I included a complaint about not being able to send multi-part SMS in my phone session with Sony support. They acknowledged that as a problem and promised that there would be a patch for it in the near future.

X.

[Reggie]

Yes, you have to click on 'Enable Tap-Dialling or Tap-E-mail-Address'. If not, you will go to edit mode when you click on a phone number.

Btw, the Address version is also 4.51S on both the TG and NZ.

[ulivotsch]

Originally posted by Reggie
Yes, you have to click on 'Enable Tap-Dialling or Tap-E-mail-Address'. If not, you will go to edit mode when you click on a phone number.

Btw, the Address version is also 4.51S on both the TG and NZ.

I clicked on the 'Enable Tap-Dialling or Tap-E-mail-Address' but however it goes into edit-mode when I click on a phone-number!
But it goes into the e-mail dialog, when I click on an e-mail-adress.

[ulivotsch]

Reggie, do you have any dial application on your clie, that you also could start alone? Is that the application that is getting started, when you tap on a phone-number?
I do not have such dial application on my device.

[david.silva]

Works for me w/ no problem. I use it all the time. TG50 (US) and a T68i.

[Eduardo]

Lucky yours ! I believe there are more people in this list that do not have it working than people that do. Why is that ?

What is the trick behind it ? Hey SONY, can you give a hint ?

Eduardo

[Reggie]

alright, let's get to the bottom of this. For those with the Dial feature not working, can you list down the version of the following (mine is listed below):

Dial v. 4.5
Phone v.4.5
Phone Library v. 5.0

[jaydisc]

Mine's working with T39 (tap dialing AND dial command in the menu):

TG50/G
Address Book 4.51S

Don't know how to get the version numbers of Dial and Phone Library.

[Reggie]

Oh, from the main application launcher screen, go to the menu and choose "Info". Towards the bottom, just beside the Done button, click on "Version".

[darkness]

I'm using a T39 and TG50 with 4.51S of the address book, frankly, I'm not sure exactly why some of you guys can't get it to work. Maybe can check the following:

- Go to Pref -> Phone and see what you have there. For me, mine says "BT to E. T39m"
- Go to Pref -> Bluetooth and check if your phone is under "Trusted Devices"
- Make sure your "Tap Dialling and Email" thing is on in Address
- Make sure your BT is enabled before you tap??? :D

[ulivotsch]

All these points are correctly set on my clie!
However it does not work!
It seems to me like there is any dialing-application missing!

[xenna]

Originally posted by Reggie
alright, let's get to the bottom of this. For those with the Dial feature not working, can you list down the version of the following (mine is listed below):

Dial v. 4.5
Phone v.4.5
Phone Library v. 5.0

OK, I'm one of those for whom it doesn't work:

TG50/E serial 5003677

Phone v4.5
Phone Library v5.0

I have *no* Dial application.

That seems to be the root of the problem.

Now I wonder if your Dial application was already on your TG50 (in flash/ROM) when you bought it or if you installed it as part of some package....

Would you mind doing a hard reset?

;-)

X.

[xenna]

Originally posted by paxton


I've installed the phonedrivers from sony and if I tap on the icons next to the address book entries I get a pop up menus with "dial direct" and "dial via dialog"...

I've installed Supernames and tried it. I get both options but no matter which one I choose no dialing occurs. :-(

(Addr Book dialling doesn't work for me either)

Apparently both require the elusive Dial library...

X.

[ulivotsch]

Yes, same with me!

TG50/E serial 5002660

Phone Library v5.0

no "phone" and no "dial" application!

However if I look into the ROM-Files with Clie-Files it shows a dial-application and the corresponding language-files!

Something is definitiv wrong here!

[ulivotsch]

Originally posted by Reggie
alright, let's get to the bottom of this. For those with the Dial feature not working, can you list down the version of the following (mine is listed below):

Dial v. 4.5
Phone v.4.5
Phone Library v. 5.0


Ok, I managed now to move that hidden "dial" application from ROM to RAM with a filemanager and made it visible!
If I execute it, I get the following message: "This application is not compatible with that version of Palm OS (Blt 3402) [Dial]"
The version of the dial-application is V4.0 and NOT v4.5 like yours, reggie!
It seems, that there is an OLD, incompatible dial-application on the european version of the TG50.
Great, SONY!
Hope there will be an update soon!
I think there is nothing more to do about it but wait!

[darkness]

Guess that also explains the fiasco abt some TG50 having flash while others don't. All the TG50s are not necessarily the same!!

[xenna]

Originally posted by ulivotsch
incompatible dial-application on the european version of the TG50.
Great, SONY!
Hope there will be an update soon!
I think there is nothing more to do about it but wait!

Ulivotsch,

Great detective work. Good you share with me the steps to view the Dial app in ROM (with Clie files) and what you finally did to copy & activate it later? (I'm a Palm newbie and it all seems a bit obscure to me).

Also isn't there a way to copy the v4.5 Dial app from Reggie's Clie and install it on ours? You managed to copy yours to an MS, couldn't he do the same? And then copy it from the MS and post or mail it somewhere?

Weird thing, since the TG50 came out in Europe several weeks after it was released in the US. You'd think we'd have a *more* recent version of the software.

It's probably not entirely legal but it's Sony's own fault from stranding us with a non-functional feature and then having the support line outright denying that it's possible at all!

Bad, bad, Sony!

X.

[ulivotsch]

Yes, you are very right!
I used the program fileman from www.bitsnbolts.com
With that program you can see the "dial" program and edit the attributes of the file. It had the attribute "hidden" thats why it was not visible! Now it is possible to copy the program to a MS or to RAM. However it will be still present in ROM. You can not delete it there since OUR tg50 does not have flash!
It would be great if reggie could do the same with his dial application and maybe also with all the "phone" files!
I would try to copy them on my clie then!
So reggie, if you manage it to do so, here is my e-mail:
uli@ulivotsch.com
Thanks very much!

[xenna]

Originally posted by ulivotsch
Yes, you are very right!
I used the program fileman from www.bitsnbolts.com
With that program you can see the "dial" program and edit the attributes of the file. It had the attribute "hidden" thats why it was not visible!

OK, I downloaded the fileman app and checked display ROM files in preferences. But I don't see any file named 'dial' (nothing between diddlebug & DES library) . Is that the full name?

It would be great if someone with a working dial app could e-mail it to us in the less fortunate parts of the world...

My e-mail is xennar@yahoo.com, thanks in advance!

X.

[Eduardo]

I am based in France and the same happens to me.. no Dial application or at least not a good version.

My e-mail if somebody could gently send it to me is : efaffonso@wanadoo.fr

Thanks !

Eduardo

[akeing]

Same me , I use TG50/J

No "Enable Tap-Dialling or Tap-E-mail-Address" in Address
No " Phone Application in Preferences"
No " Dialing Application"

How sony think about TG50/.... ???

Also Kindness , Please Send dial app : aketemp@hotmail.com

Thanx

p.s. Anybody know email of support Sony Clie ? I will ask them about these problems.

[cutepooh]

hi i manage to dial via TG50 addressbook thru bluetooth driver on my Nokia 3650. but what device do i need other than my clie to listen and talk? no earpiece nor mic...i tried using normal earphone but doesnt work...tried to use my bluetooth earpiece but dont think can establish connection cos clie already paired and connected w phone...can someone pls help?

[PHOEnix]

Hi

I have been reading this thread just when I decided to solve my dial problem.
No what is that... I am German, have the European TG50...
first: It does not have flash rom? What's that? Why not? And what consequences does it have for me (e.g.)? Does it mean that we cannot update to os6 (theoretically - and the tungsten t is able to?)
second: Why does sony have a dial version in the us version and that in the european version in old? Thats silly.
third: Can someone send me this newer version? Are you sure that it works?

torsten@nexave.de

[ulivotsch]

Yes, you are right in the first two points!
I am also german and I am really upset about that too!
I am still waiting, that somebody sends the dial application...
But I am not sure that it works!
I already called the clie support in germany, but they do not know anything about it. They forwareded the problem to the engeneering department and will come back to me on monday!
Maybe you should call them too: 01803-000658
I think the only thing we can to is wait until sony comes out with an update of the dial-application! (I hope they will...)
Viele Gruesse!

[PHOEnix]

Still have my tungsten, wanted to buy that tg50... now i am unsure if this non-flash-rom will lead to problems somehow... its a back-step...

[howiemandel]

mine works like a charm,

I think #1 you must get the right version of address book with tap dailing.....

Next u better have the right phone driver....

It works like dream but i need a way to tap dail and use bluetooth headset!

[SwissDan]

howiemandel,

can you please post the programms needed?

tnx,

dan

[ulivotsch]

I don not think, it is because of a wrong version of the adressbook. We all have V4.51S, or does anyone have an older one?
I think it is because of a wrong / old version of the dial-application! The phonedrivers themselves are also correct, because SMS and dialup-networking are working fine!

[PHOEnix]

So what now? Can anyone post this newer dial app? Would be great!! I am looking at this thread every 10 minutes to see if it already has been posted.

[howiemandel]

This is my setup
and it works....


1.)Clie Addressbook 4.51s with tap dailing enabled in preferences
2.)Sony Ericsson T68i driver found on this forum, its a 9k download and its called Sony ET68i.zip, im too lazy to provide the link but its for sure on the forum
3.)I paird the Clie to my sony phone and not vice versa.
4.) Turn on bluetooth
5.) Bingo works like a charm

try letting your phone make the pairing with the clie
and not vice versa...hope u guys get it working :)

[xenna]

Originally posted by howiemandel
This is my setup
and it works....



Howie, please read back in the posts of me and Ulivotsch. We have figured out that (probably) only the US models have version 4.5 of the Dial app installed. The others have version 4.0 which doesn't work.

This is the likely cause of the problem not a matter of badly configured TG50's. I have not seen anyone with a TG50/E (Europe) or TG50/J (Japan) with a working dialer. As mentioned before we've all got Internet and SMS working so it's not a simple problem with finding the phone.

If you want to help us, please use fileman to extract the Dial app to your memory stick and mail it to one of us so we can see if it solves our dialing problems.

Thanks in advance,
X.

[aarecordati]

paxton, thanks for the reply... works like a charm....

[howiemandel]

forsure i'll help u guys out
my mem stick arrives on tuesday
hope u guys can wait....

i also used jackflash lite to discover if i have flash room or not
looks like the US model with serial 300X.....has 3.4 megs of flash space...


i dont understand why europeans are unlucky and also i would have thought that the Japan models get stuff we dont have either....

[xenna]

Originally posted by howiemandel
i dont understand why europeans are unlucky and also i would have thought that the Japan models get stuff we dont have either....

We actually think it's a conspiracy. Bush must have pressured the Japanese to ship us faulty equipment. All this to punish the French & Germans! ;-)

No, kidding aside, I think that it's just coincidence. I've seen speculations that the US models were produced on an earlier date and fitted with Flash because the software wasn't ready yet. Maybe when the software was ready, they proceeded to send the first version to the factory for placing in the ROMS, while the US versions were flashed at a slightly later stage (with some corrections). Later (ROM) US versions may have gotten the updated SW.

It's just a bit frustrating that we're forced to do this speculative detective work while there must be people at Sony who *know* this. Unfortunately they failed to instruct the helpdesk. So we're stuck between a rock and a hard place.

Your help is much appreciated and I'm sure we can wait another day to see if this solves our problem.

It's not *that* important anyway...

X.

[sjmawson]

What a joke this all this. The dialler on my NR70V using v4.1.2S works like a dream (thanks guys, I never realised I could do this). The dialler on my NX70 (v4.5S) doesn't trigger a dial, just goes into edit mode - haven't checked the Dial version but presume this is the culprit.

However "GSM dialler" works on my NX (if you're prepared to pay).

I only hope OS6 (and how Sony interfaces with that) is going to be smoother than OS5.

Simon

[ulivotsch]

I got a call from sony support today, and they told me that the engeneerig-department did not pass along any info about the problem yet!
The will come back to me latest in 2 days!
So lets wait!
(But I guess I know already the answer....)

[PHOEnix]

howiemandel, did your stick arrive?

[Eduardo]

I do wait the outcome of this thread with anxiety. Apparently we do now know what the problem is, but the means to solve it is still to come, maybe, from our friend whose MS is about to arrive.

Eduardo

[philj]

One more frustrated european customer ;-)
I also have no dialling option on my european TG50...Sob...
No flash memory either :-/

[jaydisc]

Does anyone missing the Dial command have a GSM driver installed?

[howiemandel]

no stick yet
still anxious for it to arrive....


is fileman shareware? freeware?

someone care to share?

[xenna]

Originally posted by howiemandel
no stick yet
still anxious for it to arrive....


is fileman shareware? freeware?

someone care to share?

It's shareware but the trial version is fully functional even though it will stop working after 10 days. That should be sufficient, though...

X.

[ulivotsch]

I just talked to sony support again! They still got no answer from the engeneering department. However the guy told me, that this function is NOT supported in the European TG50 only in the US-Model. The description in the handbook of that function is a mistake, and is only in there because it was translated from the US-Handbook.
I asked him if there will be a patch to make that function work, but he did not know!

The question for us is now, is it really a mistake in the handbook?
I think it is a great mistake in the software, since there is an old version of that dial-application in ROM.

If the Tungsten C would have bluetoth I would switch over right now!

I am really upset about the sony support, how they treat their customers and how they specify their products around the world!

I never heard about that problems with PALM-Devices!

[xenna]

Originally posted by ulivotsch
I just talked to sony support again! They still got no answer from the engeneering department. However the guy told me, that this function is NOT supported in the European TG50 only in the US-Model. The description in the handbook of that function is a mistake, and is only in there because it was translated from the US-Handbook.
I asked him if there will be a patch to make that function work, but he did not know!

The question for us is now, is it really a mistake in the handbook?
I think it is a great mistake in the software, since there is an old version of that dial-application in ROM.

That's what they told me last week. It's rubbish of course. There's nothing region-specific about dialing BT phones. They just screwed up and now try to get away with it by saying the manual is wrong (mind you they started out by telling me it *wasn't* in the manual at all)

Instead of just making a patch for it like they should have done straight away.

I mean, imagine buying a BT enabled phone and a BT enabled PDA of the same brand and *not* being able to dial with it? It's ridiculous!

X.

[PHOEnix]

If dialing is not a function of the european tg50 sony would not have included the dial switch in the preferences of the address book. It says "telephone and e-mail" and not just "e-mail". My conclusion ist that it must be a mistake which sony tries to hide. It does not make sense to sell a pda which dials in amerika and does not in europe. It's silly, it really is.
I don't think that there will be a patch. Either it takes several months (maybe 7 or so) or it will never come out - there will come new devices instead.
I hope that the newer version of the dialling app will do. I really hope. Maybe a shareware programmer is also able to create something from scratch that will work on the tg50.

Torsten

[nlode]

I was able to make Dial work in my NX by installing the SMS and Phone files from the NZ.

I don´t think and don´t recommend that you install all the files in this zip file that I attached, but maybe some of you can play with them to see if it make the dialing of the Euro TG-50 work. You will see in the zip a Dial.prc file and a Dial_enUS.prc file.

Make sure you do a backup first!

[akeing]

Try to use GSMTOOL& GSM DIALER : To support IR & Bluetooth (Shareware)

Now I use "GSMTOOL" with My TG50/J , I can send Dialing command to My Mobile Phone (Nokia 5210)

Anyway i don't have Bluetooth Moblie phone device But my Friend used and he reccommand " GSM Dialer"

He told me that He can use dial command from TG50/J to T68i

Anyone try ? Please comment it.

[nlode]

Reggie,

Do you have to authorize the attachment?
I thought it did not go through but when I tried to reload it I got a message saying that file had already been posted.

[PHOEnix]

nlode, where do I find the file? Maybe I am blind :(
Can you send it to torsten@nexave.de or give a URL?

Instead of waiting for the authorization, you could have already send it to some of the guys posting here :D

[ulivotsch]

nlode, I also can not see the file anywhere!
Could you send it to me via e-mail?
uli@ulivotsch.com
Thanks so much!

[akeing]

nlode :)

Sent to me too :)

aketemp@hotmail.com

Thanx......

[nlode]

Files were sent. I don´t know what the problem is with the attachment, the system says I already posted it. Maybe Reggie/Moderator has to authorize it.

[PHOEnix]

The file works!!
Install dial.prc, dial_dial_appl_a68... and dial_enUS.prc, do a soft reset and the menu will show a "dial..." entry that works

BUT
I fear the rest of the network doesnt work anymore... I do not have the time to ensure this, but i cannot cannot to the web anymore... any other experiences?

[ulivotsch]

I have trouble with that files!
If I install them, the Protocol of the HotSync Manager says, that installation failed. dial.prc is wirteprotected on the clie.
I used FileMan to uncheck all attributes of the dial-files and deleted them. Then I tried to install the files again. Same error-messages. Makes sense, since the dial-app is saved in ROM on my clie and it has no flash!
However the three files the PHOEnix said were installed then. But the do not work. I still have no dial-app.
If I change the attribute of dial.prc that it is not hidden anymore, the dial-app is shown in the launcher. If I launch it, I get the following error:
"Launching Error. Due to a systemfailure, the application has not been launched"
It seems that the files do not work with my european clie in german configuration.

[nlode]

Copy them to the Memory Stick and then copy them to Internal Memory. Ignore read-only messages. Perform a Soft Reset after it.

Again, I want to say that this will be a trial-and-error experiment. For sure the Dial files will make it work, but you will have to see if any other files are needed or not. Do not install all of them since this may interfere with the Phone apps that are pre-installed in your TG.

[ulivotsch]

GOT IT WORKING NOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Here are the steps:

1.) Use FileMan to locate ANY files on the clie that begin with dial...
2.) Uncheck ALL attributes of the files and then delete that files!
3.) Copy the following files from nlode via MSImport to your memorystick: dial.prc, dial_dial_appl_a68k.prc, dial_enUS.prc
4.) Now use Cliefiles to copy these files from your memorystick to RAM
5.) Soft-Reset.
6.) Dialing out of the Adress-Book WORKS!!!
Even in german language!!!!!
And PHOENnix: All Network-stuff still works without problems!

I really wonder, what sony support will tell me about the problem tomorrow! Maybe again, that it does not work on european clies....

Thanks to everybody who helped to solve that problem!

[nlode]

Great it worked!!! :)

Again, I could not post the file, but everyone fell free to email me @ lode@uol.com.br if you want those files.

[PHOEnix]

Hi

Great, I dont know why it crashed, but now my network works really fine.
Guys, shaking haking, we got it.


To help you, until the file attachment in nlode's post is authorized

Download the following zip file: http://home.arcor.de/familie.bergemann/downloads/euro-tg50-dial.zip
I included everything necessary: the 3 files and a readme file explaining how to do everything.

let's hope that we do now encounter problems now. If so, please post here.
I will delete the file above from the homepage account as soon as it can be hosted somewhere else, like here in the discussion board.

Greetings, PHOEnix

[jaydisc]

Seems to me that people with the problem might have upgraded from an older Clie and received older Dial files.

[PHOEnix]

no, jaydisc. I got a new tg50 and startet from scratch (as I always do to prevent such problems)

[xenna]

Originally posted by ulivotsch

I really wonder, what sony support will tell me about the problem tomorrow! Maybe again, that it does not work on european clies....

Thanks to everybody who helped to solve that problem!

Great, I'm going to install it after dinner. When Clie support will call me back I hope they're going to give me the solution you told them. If not I will tell them what I think of them.

It won't be the first time that the combined knowledge and resources of users solves problems quicker then costly helpdesks!

X.

[sparkyclie]

Phoenix,

Yahoo!!! Works with Agendus too. I want to have your babies.

[coxy]

Originally posted by PHOEnix
Hi

Great, I dont know why it crashed, but now my network works really fine.
Guys, shaking haking, we got it.


To help you, until the file attachment in nlode's post is authorized

Download the following zip file: http://home.arcor.de/familie.bergemann/downloads/euro-tg50-dial.zip
I included everything necessary: the 3 files and a readme file explaining how to do everything.

let's hope that we do now encounter problems now. If so, please post here.
I will delete the file above from the homepage account as soon as it can be hosted somewhere else, like here in the discussion board.

Greetings, PHOEnix

Excellent

This works perfectly on my Clie and now dials via bluetooth to my Siemens S55.

Oddly I couldn't even find any files on my Clie starting dial... so I hotsynced over to memory stick and followed the remainder of the steps in your readme file.

Thanks to everyone that helped with this.

Paul

[xenna]

Originally posted by coxy
Oddly I couldn't even find any files on my Clie starting dial... so I hotsynced over to memory stick and followed the remainder of the steps in your readme file.


I noticed the same thing earlier. Apparently there are even more different software versions. Mine doesn't have any dial* files installed either.

I copied the files Phoenix sent me, rebooted and I could dial away. Just like it had always been there...

Thanks guys!

For my next project I want to try to replace the SMS application as well. I am unable to send multi-part SMS messages (over 160 chars). I've seen people in this forum claiming that it worked well for them. So maybe it can be fixed in the same manner...

X.

[SwissDan]

Jippeee !!!!

it's working, both on my TG50 and on my NZ90... and it's even working with the bluetooth headset from SonyEricsson!

Dan

[xenna]

Originally posted by jaydisc
Seems to me that people with the problem might have upgraded from an older Clie and received older Dial files.

It didn't work for me and my TG50 is the first Clie I've ever owned, in fact it's my first PalmOS PDA (not counting the Palm V I tried for a week).

I didn't have *any* dial files.

X.

[paxton]

Originally posted by xenna

[...]For my next project I want to try to replace the SMS application as well. I am unable to send multi-part SMS messages (over 160 chars). I've seen people in this forum claiming that it worked well for them. So maybe it can be fixed in the same manner...

X.

Wow, I am really happy that I've got mine from a friend in the USA. My TG50 has flash, it dials via BT and I can sent multi-part SMS without any problems. Why did Sony fu*** the European versions?

[howiemandel]

how does it work on your BT headset SwissDan?

I heard you need TT communicator for that!!!?

What phone are you using and what headset may i ask?

[Eduardo]

I have been following this thread for a couple of days, performing tests and trying everything out to solve the puzzle...

But now with the files installed and the "recipe" provided by one of these messages, I managed to do it work perfectly well, respecting the original installed language of my PDA which is French.

So, for all of you who have worked hard to help us out with this problem, my sincere thanks !

Eduardo

[Eduardo]

I am going to write a letter to the CEO of Sony to hire you guys !

Eduardo

[oboulanger]

Could any one email me the files? junkspam@free.fr
thanks

Olivier

[SwissDan]

howie,

it's working, but it does not work automatically. after the t68i is dialing, i have to press the headset-button.... you know, it's a "single"-connection, there is no way to use 3 bluetooth devices at one time!

dan

[Eduardo]

I have the same hardware or almost. The TG50, the T68i and a bluetooth headset. When I dial from the TG50, that is all I have to do to talk. I do not need to press any other button in my headset.

Forgetting the TG50, I would say it would work the same way if I had dialled from the telephone with the headset in my ear. In this case I wouldn't have to press any button in the headset either.

Just for info. I have a Jabra BT 300.

Eduardo

[SwissDan]

interesting....

does the "tg50-dial-cliesource solution ;-)" cut the tg50-t68i automatically? does this mean the t68i-headset connects within seconds automatically?

what's your t68i firmware?

my cliénz90 test (see settings->phone->test) says:

"Test OK. Your phone matches current settings.
Response from phone:
ERICSSON 1130202-BVT68"


is this an old firmware?

[Eduardo]

After phone test performed, I got the same numbers you stated.

What happens to me is the following :

1 - I choose the phone to dial from the TG50
2 - I click on the number and the composer (dialler) shows-up.
3 - I press the (composer) dialler button.
4 - The TG50 talks to the phone
5 - Once dialling message is sent, TG50 gets back to phone list
6 - The phone is processing the call
7 - A signal is sent to the BT headset which is on and paired with the phone
8 - I speak thru the headset and proceed as normal

In fact, I figure out that it is not the number of BT devices connected that plays a part in this show. I believe it works as a domino thing. One sends the other one a message and over. The only units in this case in permanent contact are the phone and BT headset. The TG50 works only to send the dialling instructions.

Eduardo

[SwissDan]

hmmm... i have to check that in the evening....

maybe i have to charge the headset ;-)

[PHOEnix]

Any News from the official Sony support

[xenna]

Well, I just got called back by a Sony CLie support person who told me that unfortunately the Tap-dial function is not available on the TG50. The error is not in the device but it's in the manual that erroneously suggests that it *is* possible.

Needless to say I told him I now have it working with the help of this group. He's going to pass our solution through to the engineers. Let's hope they do something with it. Predictable innit?

Aparrently they're still working on the sms larger than 160 characters (they can hardly claim that that is not supported).

X.

[neil@domino.org]

Works for me! Woohoo :D

[Porter]

I don't have a BT phone yet, but i plan on getting one as soon as sprint hurries up and releases the T608. Here is my question. Is the BT phone dialing problem only a problem outside of the US? I need a little clarification. I have forgotten whether this is an issue here in the states aswell and if a positive fix has been found. Any info/advice would be appreciated. Thanks.

[xenna]

Originally posted by Porter
I don't have a BT phone yet, but i plan on getting one as soon as sprint hurries up and releases the T608. Here is my question. Is the BT phone dialing problem only a problem outside of the US? I need a little clarification. I have forgotten whether this is an issue here in the states aswell and if a positive fix has been found. Any info/advice would be appreciated. Thanks.

Yes, AFAIK this is only an issue outside the US.
Yes, a positive fix has been found.

X.

[gentercz]

Thanx guys !!!!

shame on sony!

Jochen