View Full Version : GPS and Wi-Fi CF Combo Question
slbenz
05-14-2003, 09:44 PM
Wanted to get everyone's thoughts on a possible all-in-one GPS and Wi-Fi Compact Flash card solution for our Clies. My company is currently working on this solution and I wanted to find out the interest in using and purchasing this type of solution. Do you think Sony would be interested in this product as well? Your thoughts on this all-in-one solution would be greatly appreciated.
Phydeaux III
05-15-2003, 01:19 PM
With Palm drivers.....?
slbenz
05-15-2003, 01:48 PM
Definitely with Palm drivers. I'm a Sony PEG-NX70V user myself.
amyhr
05-15-2003, 01:55 PM
Reasonable priced, I'd buy it in a flash, provided it worked completely on my NX70v
Reggie
05-15-2003, 02:12 PM
slbenz, that is a neat idea! I would like to say that wifi and gps will work hand in hand in the near future. As we speak, I think there are companies doing something with it already.
If you can do a bluetooth/GPS combination. that'll be neat too! :)
If you need beta testers, please add me to the list.
BalBurgh
05-15-2003, 03:54 PM
Hellacool!
I'd beta that! It would be especially excellent if it works with a variety of software (like my obvious pick of Delorme products...).
The downside of course is that I wouldn't be able to store all the maps on the CF memory card...
oneeyesquare
05-15-2003, 08:35 PM
I'd be very interested... Though I'd need a good antenna for my NZ (slot on bottom)...
slbenz
05-15-2003, 08:37 PM
I'll definitely keep you all in mind as beta-testers when we have the product available. To answer the question on memory, yes, we plan to include an integrated 128Mb memory storage into the card to handle the various maps we would use in order to free up our PDA's memory card. Let me know if this added function would be of use as well. We wll definitely try to keep the pricing down so that many people can benefit from this product.
chaos
05-15-2003, 09:30 PM
Originally posted by slbenz
I'll definitely keep you all in mind as beta-testers when we have the product available. To answer the question on memory, yes, we plan to include an integrated 128Mb memory storage into the card to handle the various maps we would use in order to free up our PDA's memory card. Let me know if this added function would be of use as well. We wll definitely try to keep the pricing down so that many people can benefit from this product.
I'd be thrilled to have a GPS card that worked with my NX70V. A GPS and WiFi card with onboard RAM would be ecstasy.
Consider me volunteering up for any beta programs.
caseyatbt
05-15-2003, 10:02 PM
I've been hoping for a GPS for my Clie.
Flipseat
05-16-2003, 02:12 PM
Count me in! I was just asking someone at Frys about that very product. I've got an NX-60.
I want a GPS, WiFi, TV, AM/FM, CellPhone card! Life would be complete:D
ccelada
05-16-2003, 03:17 PM
GPS + WiFi + 128MB would be great. I would definitely buy one of those, if i can afford it. I've also been hopping for GPS on my CLIE, but the MS GPS only sells in Japan, and there are only japanesse drivers.
Tinker2000
05-18-2003, 09:04 AM
Fantastic idea, would be very interested, especially with the storage aswell..
bottomgun
05-18-2003, 04:10 PM
I would be VERY interested in a GPS+WiFi+128 Mb RAM!
If only these companies could stop making smaller cards and start making better and more useful cards. Refinement needs to happen sometime rather than continuously striving to make everything obsolete in form.
n2ifp
05-18-2003, 07:38 PM
Yeah, instead they want you to spend your money :mad:!
cliener
05-19-2003, 08:49 PM
Is it me? Or did the beginning of the cfdriver threads start out just this same way? Good luck with this venture and is there a target beta release date?
slippy4twenty
05-20-2003, 11:52 AM
I'd be very interested too, I have an NX-60...
Edit: Perhaps I was too tired that night. I'm drooling over the idea already.....I hope this comes to fruition!
I'd love to beta/alpha test!
Reggie
05-20-2003, 11:58 AM
I would definitely agreen on the WiFi + GPs + Memory combo. Any chance you can do 256MB? :D Also, please try to incorporate a quad-helix antenna.
Good luck!
Cerin48
05-20-2003, 12:25 PM
WiFi + GPS + Memory would definitely get my cash!
Best of luck with the development. I'll be waiting for an announcement with extreme impatience.
Very interested for my NZ90, currently using garmin box but keep forgetting to bring it with me
luigit
05-20-2003, 02:42 PM
and i just recieved my 512mb CF in the mail last week. Sounds great. count me in
Originally posted by n2ifp
Yeah, instead they want you to spend your money :mad:!
I'm not sure what you mean here. Either sacasm or pointing out the obvious. Either way, smaller cards or refinement of existing card types will cause consumers to spend money. I would like to see a shift toward refinement of what is out there rather than constantly intruducing new sizes of cards.:)
weakspirit
05-20-2003, 03:15 PM
having a combo card like that would be awesome but i would also be just as keen on a plain GPS with my NX60 - with some integrated memory of course. and also maybe a weather proof case that'll accomodate the clie and the GPS/WIFI card.
ashVID
05-21-2003, 03:36 AM
Sounds fabulous but we are talking about $200 minimum. I would pay it but would want full functionality....
ash =o)
n2ifp
05-21-2003, 08:58 AM
Originally posted by Tixx
I'm not sure what you mean here. Either sacasm or pointing out the obvious. Either way, smaller cards or refinement of existing card types will cause consumers to spend money. I would like to see a shift toward refinement of what is out there rather than constantly intruducing new sizes of cards.:)
Exactly :)!
It was a little of both :D
lilicucu
05-21-2003, 09:52 AM
I would definitely buy it.
What would I be ready to pay for that ? Maybe 300$ ?
I already own a Holux CF GPS and I am dying to make it work on the Clie.
Joel1
05-21-2003, 10:20 AM
A number of us have already spent $100-$150 for the wi-fi card. A GPS stand-alone card would be nice. This would elimate any duplication, plus just programming and trouble shooting 1 function seems to be a lot easier then 2 (wi-fi +gps).
lilicucu
05-21-2003, 10:30 AM
A number of us have already spent $100-$150 for the wi-fi card. A GPS stand-alone card would be nice. This would elimate any duplication
Well, this is not so true. I have already spent 160$ on a GPS and I would be ready to sell it to buy a combo card.
- My GPS doesn't have memory
- It is really unconvenient to have to carry 2 cards, switch them, etc.
The beauty of the Clie is to have all the functionality in a single device.
Joel1
05-21-2003, 11:42 AM
Yes I am sorry I left out the GPS owners After my experience with the CF utility software, I would prefer a device and software that works (not if you do this or do that or shut this off before insertion, and can't copy unless you spend more on another device and on?and on?and on?). It?s true in what you say "The beauty of the Clie is to have all the functionality in a single device.? I would prefer a few programs that worked GREAT instead a large number of programs that worked half of the time and never when it counted. The sony wi-fi card works great. Why reinvent the wheel, not knowing if the wheel will work. We have a great wi-fi card give us a great GPS card.
euroclie
05-22-2003, 02:33 AM
Originally posted by ccelada
the MS GPS only sells in Japan, and there are only japanesse drivers.
The MS GPS is indeed sold only in Japan, but as a matter of fact, there's no such thing as a MS GPS driver, i.e. the GPS program has to include MS GPS support (and unfortunately almost none of them do support that, except the Japanese and Japan-centric Navin You Pocket bundled with the GPS). If GPS programs developers were to add MS GPS support to their apps, then you woudn't have to bother about the MS GPS language...
But then, I read that the performances of the MS GPS are rather poor: when inserting the MS GPS into your Clié, you have to wait for about 25 mn before the GPS can compute a position. And if you remove the GPS from the device, it's 25mn again everytime you reinstert it. So you have to keep it in the MS Slot, and see your battery level decrease... ;)
euroclie
05-22-2003, 02:42 AM
Originally posted by slbenz
we plan to include an integrated 128Mb memory storage into the card to handle the various maps we would use in order to free up our PDA's memory card.
A GPS+memory or a Wifi+Memory card would definitely be a big hit, IMHO. A Combo GPS/Wifi card also, but it would have to be cheaper than buying separately a GPS card and a Wifi card, I think. Since there is no GPS CF card for the Clié, of course, this is purely theoretical, of course! ;)
Anyway, I'd be more than willing to buy such a card if/when available! :)
lilicucu
05-22-2003, 02:59 AM
Do you have a device already designed ?
Do you have any release date in mind ?
Thanks
Lili
bigfathavana
05-22-2003, 08:21 PM
Great! I would prefer to use the CF slot for communication so WIFI, Bluetooth would be brilliant! GPS even better. I have been dying to use Bluetooth in my CF slot and keep my MS free for memory.
slbenz
05-23-2003, 12:51 PM
To answer the question about time frame, we are trying very hard to get the product out by September in time for the Christmas season. We are definitely targeting the price of the unit to be less than the sum of its parts, meaning it will be a more cost effective solution that buying all the individual solutions separately. We will also include Bluetooth capability as well since the chipset we are using has that included. Once the prototypes are available, I will ask several of you to participate in the beta-testing. I can't wait to try it myself in my NX-70V.
wobly
05-24-2003, 12:17 AM
I want it!! Sooo...how fast can you guys produce these things? :)
I'd like to sign up for beta testing, too! :D
The Croc
05-24-2003, 07:50 PM
I would buy it in a heartbeat.
Mitek
05-26-2003, 09:23 AM
I've declared a maratorium for gadgets almost a year ago, after spending $600 on NR70V, but I don't think I stand a chance against a GPS + WiFi/BT + 128MB (unless I won't be able to find maps/nautical charts for the Middle East, but perhaps even then). I would be absolutely thrilled to do beta.
Stronger Shen
05-26-2003, 10:46 AM
I can't wait to join the beta tester!!
Originally posted by slbenz
To answer the question about time frame, we are trying very hard to get the product out by September in time for the Christmas season. We are definitely targeting the price of the unit to be less than the sum of its parts, meaning it will be a more cost effective solution that buying all the individual solutions separately. We will also include Bluetooth capability as well since the chipset we are using has that included. Once the prototypes are available, I will ask several of you to participate in the beta-testing. I can't wait to try it myself in my NX-70V.
big_daddy_mpd
05-26-2003, 08:14 PM
I already have a Delorme GPS that I use with my laptop and my RV (really, really valuable when you're haulin' *** down the road in a 31 ft Class A Winnebago, and you have no idea where in the hell you are (especially nice between, say, Chicago, and Minneapolis (that stretch in Wisconsin is just plain scary!))
I'd buy it. But, I'd really love a cell phone/modem card, like the Sprint one. You guys would sell a million of those, if you made them CF, and built drivers for Palm and PPC.
Regards,
Michael
michaelnyden
08-07-2005, 03:00 PM
could you guys make a wifi enabled GPS reciever as well...for those of us that already have the PEGA-WL100 or WL110...
many, many companies already make bluetooth enabled GPS recievers that you can place in an optimum position in your car and have it wirelessly connect to your PDA/pocket pc, but none that I know of currently produce/sell a wifi enabled GPS reciever...that would be even better as you could start an entire revolution as wifi has a longer range than bluetooth in most cases and would allow groups of cars on the highway if enabled with wifi to use the bandwith of one car and not all tie up all the satellites...!
looking at a smaller scope:
Please, please make a Wifi enabled gps reciever that we can install in our cars....instead of using the bluetooth enabled recievers...as I have all my stuff on my memory sticks and don't wanna use the bluetooth memory stick just to use wireless bluetooth gps...and have to swap out sticks...
that would be innovative as no company out there has a wifi enabled gps recever!!!
dusty_allen
08-07-2005, 10:46 PM
I would be in for one of these. It has everything that I want in one card. I would love to be one of the first to get to see this in action as a beta tester. Keep us all in mind!
Thanks for the heads up!
michaelnyden
08-09-2005, 01:47 PM
if you guys would just develop a bluetooth cf card...we could all use the bluetooth gps receivers out there...so we can have the wireless receivers that we can place in the best position in our cars...and the receiver is larger than a cf card is so the reception would be a lot better....but for those in the go, I guess the gps cf card is the way to go....
like i said if someone had a wifi enabled gps receiver I would have that already and still be able to keep my memory sticks in and just use the cf wifi card...but instead I am forced to swap in the bluetooth stick just to communicate with the bluetooth gps receivers...
peoplethatfalle
08-11-2005, 07:42 PM
okay, i'd like to ask what happened here, cos there's a gap of just under TWO YEARS between two of the posts in this thread. I'm assuming that the card never came to be, or they just neglected to tell us. :( Shame. If i'm wrong, I'd like to ask if it will be useable with the nx80, which are seemingly set only to use either a wl100 or a wl110 and nothing else.
cRunchy
08-19-2005, 12:31 AM
okay, i'd like to ask what happened here, cos there's a gap of just under TWO YEARS between two of the posts in this thread. I'm assuming that the card never came to be, or they just neglected to tell us. :( Shame. If i'm wrong, I'd like to ask if it will be useable with the nx80, which are seemingly set only to use either a wl100 or a wl110 and nothing else.
It's a time warp thing - we have all just gained 2 years of our lives back to make all the same mistakes again :D
Unless "slbenz" has morphed on the forum s\he only posted a few times and hasn't posted for 2 years..
It's a good bet that the device never got off the ground and Sony's difficulty over sharing their driver source got in the way of development again :mad:
Iv'e been looking at the CF solutions on ebay as the price is more reasonable now though I need to check out any BT options available also.
It's a bit quiet in the NX forums these days...
cRunchy
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