A little treat for you all - FREEWARE skinUI

[dmitrygr]

SkinUI is now freeware, as a little treat to all you guys. You've supported me and my programming for five years now, and I only hope that you enjoyed this time at least as much as I did. Thanks.

This is a sort of an early farewall post, just a bit ahead of its time. nuRom for LifeDrive is done and will be released soon and SDHC driver for Palms will be my last official project. I will, of course, continue to fix and update old projects, but unless something changes dramatically do not forsee many new ones. I've done all I wanted, and I've had plenty of fun along the way.


why?

i am extremely worn out after this semester, the next few months after i move to Mountain View, CA, i plan to spend every weekend at the pool, reading with my phone by my side - OFF!
Why this app? This app is just the one i am most proud of, it is also the biggest project i undertook under palmos. So i felt like sharing it.

After i rest up a bit, i might be back, though i am not sure. i am joining VMWare fulltime, and plan to get my MBA studying in evenings and weekends. i am not sure how much free time i will have.


Long Live PalmOS!

[skinui download is on palmpowerups.com]

[_Em]

So long, and thanks for all the hacks!

[technical1]

Dmitry,

A nice gesture for your impending goodbye (in terms of new projects, anyway). You have done so much for Palm users.

Will you be adding SDHC support for Treo 755p, or Centro?

You've certainly helped Palm to live longer & better! Thanks!

[dmitrygr]

@technical1: 755p and centro already have it.
@_Em: not yet :-)

[phreakonaleash]

Thanks, on behalf of every Palm user who doesn't make it to this thread, for every thing you've for my (and their) PalmOS handhelds.

[technical1]

Dmitry,

Thanks, but do they go over the 4Gb that the salespeople seem to talk about?

[Pent]

Many thanks.

I'm not usually bothered so much about cosmetics but now I've tried it I like it :-)

Pent

[dmitrygr]

@technical1: yes, but that is another topic. leave this one to skinui please ;-)

[Bla8]

Well, thanks a lot Dmitry! :D

Now I don't need to get a new registration code (Sorry if I was the one who send you the last email on top of the sdhc requests which made you snap, go crazy and release it as freeware). I am sure this program will be appreciated by the whole palm user base and might even find its way to factory default devices in the future (and resurrect palm). Do tell us why this is your farewell present and what you are planning next (Microsoft didn't bribe you to stop did they? :) ).

PS: Your OS X skin which can be downloaded from your site does not seem to work on skinUI (corrupt pdb?)

[Twisten]

thanks dmitrygr :) thats a very nice gesture

[FranckW]

Dimitry thnaks a lot. It's sad for every palmuser that you are "retiring".

[Gwidion]

Thanks dimitry and all the best wishes for you future. :)
I'm a little bit sad, because I've hoped for a nuRom Version for my Treo680 ;(

[drashran]

Thanks for ur efforts to make apps and fixes for PalmOS.

Palm Inc., is killing it's own brain child

[PalmSole]

Dmitry, you and Alex are some of the biggest reasons the palm community still has some diehard fans arround. Your innovation, patience and generosity will be greatly missed. This is starting to look like another chapter of the palm saga is ending. Soak up some California rays, rest and relax...then come back if you can :p

[technical1]

Dmitry,

Let me wish you all the best w/your move, & your work w/VMWare & I will try out SkinUI 2.2 as soon as I pick up my TX - had to send it in for upgrade after my most recent probs.... Will be able to comment on SUI later today... I hope everyone who hasn't til now will enjoy SkinUI.

Good luck w/everything.

technical1

[Pgr]

hey, great news!

I have a question: is skinUI just an aesthetic improvement, or does it bring along any functional benefits? I seem to recall asking for a minor feature somewhere and Dmitry replying that SkinUI did what I was asking. But I'm not sure what it was, or if it was really skinUi or something else... :confused:

EDIT: let me answer my own question - I remembered what it was and was able to find it here (http://www.1src.com/forums/showpost.php?p=1001762&postcount=93).

It seems SkinUI prevents the DIA from popping up for 320x320 dialogs when it's not needed. Never tried it though.

Could there be more of these little improvements?

[Electro68]

Dmitry,

Let me wish you all the best w/your move..
Besides you deserve some time-off to rest your fingers :)
Good luck w/everything.

Marc

[JavaJiveJump]

I add my thanks here as well, Dmitry. Your contributions here have been invaluable!

Wish you the best on your future endeavors!

--> Installed SkinUi: "A reset was caused... while running "skinUI": Fatal Exception

(maybe something went wrong with my Versamail download)?

[KevinAgot]

Dmitry, thanks for your creativity and generosity, dude.

[JavaJiveJump]

SkinUI is resetting every time. (Not that I don't appreciate the free download!)

Let me add this to UnCache/CleanStart to see if that helps...

[Another Michael]

Could there be more of these little improvements?

The help dialogs now feature a scrollbar.

Alert boxes now can have animated icons.

A new font has been added to the titlebars and buttons to make them more readable.

Sound support. Sounds can be customized for any action.

The commandbar is completeley skinned ...

No more underlying in memos . (screenshot)

[owl]

Thanks for all the Stuff you made for our Palms, you (and your apps) really made life a lot easier for us. I wish you all the best for the future and I hope, you'll be back soon. Without you and your in-depth knowledge of PalmOS, we're doomed.

[BrentDC]

I will reiterate what seemingly everyone has said here: Thanks for all you did for the Palm OS community. I know for certain that my Palm OS experience would not be nearly as good without all your Apps, Tweaks, and Hacks. Thank you.

[OLD_HATCH]

I would like to say Thanks for making this great app freeware! I purchased it back in January but will surely spread the word. This one app probably saved me from switching devices. ( lol eye candy I know)


I do have one question about versions though. I am using the last beta 2.1 or something and the freeware is version 2.2. Were there any enhancements between the two or is the version change just to indicate freeware?

I am hoping that there was a fix included to be able to see the text for the "big buttons" feature in mms/missed call/voicemail alerts.



I personally have benefitted from your programs for over 2 years with my first purchase of UDMH to make LJP playable on my Treo 650. I had also purchased warpspeed and skinui. Im sad to hear you wont be continuing to innovate on the old palm OS but Wish you well with your future plans.




Oh also if there is ever a fix for the big buttons effect I'll be anxiously waiting. :D

[dmitrygr]

i think big buttons work now

[scottl]

Dmitry, it's very sad (for me) to hear this after all you've done to make my Palm experience better, but I'm happy for you attaining your goal in the Palm space. I've been a vmware fan since it first hit the streets and I'm glad to hear you're going there.

Very nice of you to give away SkinUI, but I'm wondering if you have my correct address to mail me refund check to... :eek: ;) I'll consider the ease of moving the app to replacement TX's enough!

Just don't disappear completely for that very reason. I'm sure I'll be needing new reg codes for the other apps in my PalmPowerups "Suite" as TX's come and go.

Cheers to you! Here's hoping you can't stay away! :D

[JavaJiveJump]

i think big buttons work now
SWEET! Exactly what I was looking for.

I just need to get it to launch.

Uninstalled MySkin in case there was a conflict... no dice yet.

[Another Michael]

Full transparent command bar with 5-way navigation and highlighting of the active item.

[dmitrygr]

Full transparent command bar with 5-way navigation and highlighting of the active item.


that looks weird, i prefer 80% transparency with a black background
looks like a slate of dark glass - very cool

[Ohappydaye]

Thank you Dmitry, this is very kind of you. I appreciate your contributions to the Palm Community and I wish you all the best in your future endeavors. :)

[ptmin]

BIG THANK YOU Dimitry sincerely
Pe

[broncot]

I am hoping that there was a fix included to be able to see the text for the "big buttons" feature in mms/missed call/voicemail alerts.
:D

I installed 2.2 on my Treo 700p, and I can't see the text on voicemail alerts, in fact whenever I made or received a phone call with 'big buttons' enabled, it would crash, but it didn't show up in the crash log.
I like this better than PalmRevolt, and haven't started playing with the sounds yet.
Thanks Dmitry!

[dmitrygr]

disable big buttons skinning then

[FerdFerd]

Let me add my thanks too.

Not surprisingly, it seems to slow down application loading. Do those of you who are experienced with it do anything to deal with that? I turned form effects off, and that helps a lot. Anything else? I expect to forget the slight delay once I become used to it.

Lots more to experiment with. Fun!

[thenrik]

Hi:

Thanks so much for all of your efforts. After you settled in Mountainview, if you want an insider's tour of San Francisco, shoot me an email or leave a message at 1src.

Tom

[dmitrygr]

@thenrik: if it's not too much trouble, i'd love to take you up on that

[cyberdude]

Let me add my thanks too.

Not surprisingly, it seems to slow down application loading. Do those of you who are experienced with it do anything to deal with that? I turned form effects off, and that helps a lot. Anything else? I expect to forget the slight delay once I become used to it.

Lots more to experiment with. Fun!
Dick,

I've found that it just takes getting used to. You can disable some of the effects or not choose random. Some of the effects render faster than others on my TX, YMMV. But I've used SkinUI since beta testing the .x version and have gotten used a slight slow down, I sit back and enjoy the eyecandy. On some apps in which I am impatient, I check the box to disable it altogether. Also disable SUI for apps that skin themselves, but remember that skinning settings are inherited, so if you disable it for LX then any dialogue that pops up while in LX will not be skinned either. (I do love the animated dialogs :p )

[ammar766]

Oh man... dmitry's going thats a HUGE fall for palm :( come on man why???? but, but....but.... what about the opera mini hacks please dont say your quiting on that oh man........... i feel sick, oh and 600x600 for netfront hack? whyyyyyyyyyyyyy

[_Em]

case in point? ;)

He's going to be too busy with his real life, that's all. Happens to most of us eventually.

[ixle]

Thanks dmitrygr for all your work. It really says something about you as a person to release a great piece of software for free as your going away gift. You have changed countless lives by your applications. In a way its kind of a new way of living - never meeting someone, but interacting/communicating with them and those contacts having an impact on ones' life. Thanks again.

BTW- I will be trying SkinUI again. It does NOT like my treo680's PushToTalk application.

Good luck in all your endeavours.

Saol fada chugat (Long life to you )

[FranckW]

I confirm big buttons on incoming phone calls crash the treo :(

[JavaJiveJump]

Oh man... dmitry's going thats a HUGE fall for palm :( come on man why???? but, but....but.... what about the opera mini hacks please dont say your quiting on that oh man........... i feel sick, oh and 600x600 for netfront hack? whyyyyyyyyyyyyy
Dmitry wrote:

i am extremely worn out after this semester, the next few months after i move to Mountain View, CA, i plan to spend every weekend at the pool, reading with my phone by my side - OFF!

Microsoft did not bribe me, this app is just the one i am most proud of, it is also the biggest project i undertook under palmos. So i felt like sharing it.

After i rest up a bit, i might be back, though i am not sure. i am joining VMWare fulltime, and plan to get my MBA studying in evenings and weekends. i am not sure how much free time i will have.

[hgradeca]

Thanks for everything Dmitry!
You really made the biggest improvements to Palm!
I hope that you will be back soon! :)
Have a good rest!

[vovka1965]

the next few months after i move to Mountain View, CA...

You will enjoy all the ethnic food on Castro street, Mountain View -- at least I did 15 years ago... The oriental market has great Sushi-grade fish.. Tons of Indian restaurants.. Yum-yum.. Who needs to go to San Fran?
Have fun! :p

[JavaJiveJump]

WOOT!! SkinUI is AMAZING!!

Finally got it to work!! Serves me right for trying to migrate data through my BB and then again through Versamail. Something got corrupted along the way. Now that I'm home did a direct download and everything worked fine. I should have just been patient and waited until I got home in the first place! haha!!

I can see why you favor this app Dmitry! The PalmOS never... I mean NEVER looked so good!

I got a lot to play with now! :) Thank you for everything!

[joemun]

Thanks Dmitry...It seems now that the Palm OS is oficially dead...<sighs> ...What´s next in mobile (PDA style, not Asus eee) computing?...Iphone?...Probably... :(

[espc31]

Many thanks from all mac fanboys! You rock :)

[dmitrygr]

no hurry yet guys. we'll say goodbye later :-)

[LupeValenz]

Hey hey, what a big giveaway for the Palm community. I hope now everyone has no excuse on enjoying this great app on their palm. Just one more addition on why to choose this over Palmrevolt now ^_^/. (People should have chosen this as it can use their skins as well). Thanks alot for making it free to the public. This is one app that makes me use my Treo without being sick at the vintage palm skin. OSX makes my Palm very useable :D.

[palmuse]

I wish you luck on your future endevours. Also, thanks for PowerDigi. That app alone has enhanced my TX immensely. Well worth every penny.

Dmitry, you will be an asset to whomever recognizes your talent and ingenuity. Your contributions (apps and otherwise) are appretiated. Thanks.

[cms]

So is the ClieOrg project officialy dead?
oh well, thanks dmitry for all your contributions :D

[dmitrygr]

By "icefire" in another forum.
i like this, made me smile
DmitryHack (noun): A small, 1-200kb Palm OS application by Dmitry Grinberg, usually runs in the background and is only Palm OS 5 compatible. Does not contain a user-interface, but may occasionally. Very useful Ex: DynaClock, E2 Internal Drive, BrightnessFix, FastDIA, PicselAccelerator, MaxX, etc.

[Church Punk]

SkinUI was fun for you developing and it was fun for us skinners too (making skins, that is). The best skin I've done was for your app cuz it deserved it.

I will join phreaks first post and say thanks for this free release man.

[E2EK1EL]

Thank you very much for everything you;ve done! I wish you the best of luck with everything

I have a little question though ... On my Treo680, whenever I get a txt msg all my big buttons are blank. Did I set something wrong?

[FranckW]

e2ek1el, I have the same problem.
I disable effects on big buttons.

Not really satisfying solution, but it works.

[JavaJiveJump]

Dmitry's apps, in short, breathed new life into the PalmOS.

In many cases they made the Palm work the way it should have.

VMWare is fortunate. I am surprised Palm didn't make an offer! Their loss!

:)

SkinUI was fun for you developing and it was fun for us skinners too (making skins, that is). The best skin I've done was for your app cuz it deserved it.

I will join phreaks first post and say thanks for this free release man.
I loved what you did with PTunes! What is this one for SkinUI called and where can I get it, please?

Thnx

[Headgamer]

Well, my problem is, SkinUI is crashing my Treo 700p. Every time I make a call or receive a call it crashes. I went into apps and completely disabled SkinUI for the Phone app and PhoneSwitch app (whatever that is), and still my buttons in the call screen are skinned and it crashes. Why would it still skin the phone app when I set it not to?

[cyberdude]

Dmitry's apps, in short, breathed new life into the PalmOS.

In many cases they made the Palm work the way it should have.

VMWare is fortunate. I am surprised Palm didn't make an offer! Their loss!

:)


I loved what you did with PTunes! What is this one for SkinUI called and where can I get it, please?

Thnx
IIRC, Dmitry applied for a internship with palm before he did with VMWare, they had the bad sense to turn him away - go figure! :confused:

[dmitrygr]

Well, my problem is, SkinUI is crashing my Treo 700p. Every time I make a call or receive a call it crashes. I went into apps and completely disabled SkinUI for the Phone app and PhoneSwitch app (whatever that is), and still my buttons in the call screen are skinned and it crashes. Why would it still skin the phone app when I set it not to?


because those dialogs are not part of the phone app
just disable big button skinning for now

[Headgamer]

because those dialogs are not part of the phone app
just disable big button skinning for nowThanks Dmitri! That did the trick!

After I wrote the last message I realized those screens were not part of the phone app. I looked through the app list, but didn't see anything appropriate. Does anyone know what that "app" is called (the in-call screen with the big buttons...)

TIA!

HG

[icefireicefire]

IT crashes my zodiac even after hard reset: Fatal exception: 0C. I got it working once but after reset it stopped

[OLD_HATCH]

Well, my problem is, SkinUI is crashing my Treo 700p. Every time I make a call or receive a call it crashes. I went into apps and completely disabled SkinUI for the Phone app and PhoneSwitch app (whatever that is), and still my buttons in the call screen are skinned and it crashes. Why would it still skin the phone app when I set it not to?




You have to open SkinUI, hit the effects button right in the middle of the screen, then at the bottom right of the effects screen there is a checkbox with the words "Big Buttons". Uncheck that and hit ok. Thats it no more crashes on calls. ;)


Heres a screenshot too just incase. :D (checkbox circled in red)



http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v499/sinnedone/NewImage.jpg

[sergioq]

Thanks for the app I didn't try it before it's really cool. It's so sad to hear you're almost leaving us but I hope you'd come back. I'll save the goodbye for
later on just in case. :-)

[scottl]

I sense a lot more "pretty" screenshots in future forum discussions :)

I hope this inspires a few skinners to come out of sleep mode as well as inspire other creative souls to give it a try!

Here's the skin (http://www.1src.com/freeware/fileinfo.php?id=1782) I'm using at the moment - and it's by our very own Church Punk. Very nice! I use a different Statusbar than the supplied one, but change often to keep it fun.

Edit: I just moved a couple tips I put here into a new thread to avoid redundancy and avoid a hijacking.

[_Em]

I guess it's time to revive the Screenshots thread (http://www.1src.com/forums/showthread.php?t=24543) although the TX Screenshots thread (http://www.1src.com/forums/showthread.php?t=133207) is generally more recent.

[E2EK1EL]

e2ek1el, I have the same problem.
I disable effects on big buttons.

Not really satisfying solution, but it works.


Yeah I did that lastnight, right after I made the post. Thank you

I also noticed skinUI + certin skins effect the look of AngendusPro also.

[Treo Musketeer]

Okay, all this seems a bit over my head, but I've downloaded a few themes and skins I like and we'll see what I can make of this. Anyone know if Brett's OpenMoko works with SkinUI?

[Church Punk]

@javajivejump:

The skin i was talking about was Tiger skin for SkinUI, released on my first package (first attemp) to change the PalmOS GUI. You can find it here in the freeware section under the name "Turn2PalmOSX". You will find a series of skins included and skinui is listed.

My second package included a pTunes skin but had a delay for the skinUI skin. It is not that good, but blends well with the intended UI. scotl posted a link to it, check it out!

[malbo]

I have just downloaded this app and am giving it a try. It states that the command bar is fully skinned but I cannot see this effect on my TX. Is it dependent on certain skins? Can someone suggest a skin that would show this effect?

Thanks.

[JavaJiveJump]

B) Cool! Thanks, I will.

[BrentDC]

Okay, all this seems a bit over my head, but I've downloaded a few themes and skins I like and we'll see what I can make of this. Anyone know if Brett's OpenMoko works with SkinUI?

Sadly, it does not because of PalmRevolts new compression. I have my own uncompressed version, that will import into SkinUI, but crashes when previewed. I think I would have to create a version specifically for SkinUI, and since I don't see myself using PalmOS devices to much longer, that is highly unlikely to happen.

[_Em]

I have just downloaded this app and am giving it a try. It states that the command bar is fully skinned but I cannot see this effect on my TX. Is it dependent on certain skins? Can someone suggest a skin that would show this effect?

Thanks.

You just need to go in and fiddle with your bar settings once you've enabled it. You can adjust transparency, activation effect, and a few other things.

[MikeB]

Thanks much dmitry!


I can't wait for the vmware version for palm. ;)

[FerdFerd]

Is it just me, or is this now adware? I get periodic dialogs when I start it that remind me that it's freeware, but that I should buy things from the developer at palmpowerups. I have to actively dismiss the dialog to proceed. This doesn't happen every time, but it does to me reasonably frequently. My imagination?

[dmitrygr]

it just shows it once when u start the app

[icefireicefire]

No, not really adware...more of nagware.

[OLD_HATCH]

lol


I know how to fix that..............buy palmrevolt! :D lol


In all seriousness this app for free is more than worth a little reminder of who let you get it for "FREE" every once in a while.


I purchased this app for what I thought was very cheap for what it can do and do it very well! I would have been more than happy to pay up to 25 dollars for this great app.

Just sart playing with the colorize menu and You will see how well thought out this app is. :)

[I love my mom]

Very generous of you dmitry :)

Unfortunately, I've never been able to use SkinUI on my TX. It crashes when searching for skins, or if it does make it past that stage, it crashes when I tap the Skins... button.

Very generous of you indeed :)

[malbo]

You just need to go in and fiddle with your bar settings once you've enabled it. You can adjust transparency, activation effect, and a few other things.

Thanks for this, EM. But I am still in the dark. I've enabled the command bar in SkinUI but how does one get into the bar settings. I cannot see where to do this.

[FerdFerd]

it just shows it once when u start the appIt's showing itself more frequently than that for me. I've seen it about a half dozen or eight times since installing it. I should add that I can tolerate that if it's what you intend, but if, as you say, it should only show once, then something is amiss for me.

[dmitrygr]

1. it should neevr run outside of app
2. per one launch of app it will show once only

if your results differ - you have a modified prc

[FranckW]

The "nag" screen appears once when you first launch skinUI.
Then it reappears once when you first launch skinUI after a reset (with on after reset unselected at least).

[JavaJiveJump]

IIRC, Dmitry applied for a internship with palm before he did with VMWare, they had the bad sense to turn him away - go figure! :confused:what a loss for Palm. But then again, they do have a record of making poor decisions. ;)

Thanks for this, EM. But I am still in the dark. I've enabled the command bar in SkinUI but how does one get into the bar settings. I cannot see where to do this.Preferences --> Cmd bar apha: slide the bar to the right to increase transparency.

[JavaJiveJump]

My searches on the forums have turned up huge amounts of hits.

I'm sure this question is old news, but could someone point me in the right direction for creating skins and sound files for SkinUI?

I love Church Punks Vista sounds, but I think it would be SO cool if I could duplicate some of the LCARS sounds from Star Trek. My LD will double as a tricorder! :)

TIA

~JJJ

[phreakonaleash]

My searches on the forums have turned up huge amounts of hits.

I'm sure this question is old news, but could someone point me in the right direction for creating skins and sound files for SkinUI?

I love Church Punks Vista sounds, but I think it would be SO cool if I could duplicate some of the LCARS sounds from Star Trek. My LD will double as a tricorder! :)

TIA

~JJJ
palmpowerups freeware download section has the cobalt examples, with the compiler. Edit bmps to fit your needs.

[FranckW]

palmpowerups freeware download section has the cobalt examples, with the compiler. Edit bmps to fit your needs.

Thanks for the tip...
Anyway a little readme or tutorial would be useful. I'm glad with the skins I found over the web, but if I spend time creating new one, I like learning new things, as I'm not a computer engineer. :)

[OLD_HATCH]

Theres this program called HPSkin studio that makes it easier to create edit skins if your just starting.

Its not free but I bought it somewhere for 5 bucks. just gotta google it. Ive been using it for months to edit bmp's and compile new skins.

[Nadie]

Thanks a lot, Dmitry. Have a nice one!

[rds2dys]

Thank you very much, Dmitry.
I'm trying SkinUI on my Treo 700p and love it except for one thing that freezes my 700p when I try any sound pack.

I also wish Long Live PalmOS!
Good luck to you.

[scottl]

Please don't take offense, but do those of you with the "nags" popping up have the Splash Screen enabled in Prefs by chance?

Update: I have been messing with this and see the Informational "SkinUI is freeware! etc" once after a reset. That's not the end of the world, but since I paid for this app (and 3 others from PPU, I sure wish I wasn't subject to this. It would be nice if registered users were excluded from this dialog.

Since the last pay version was fine I am going to drop back to that...

[cyberdude]

I get the freeware popup everytime I start skinui and the info on what's changed. The what's changed used to come up only the first time after installing a new version. I don't have the splash screen enabled (haven't since I bought it) I'm considering going back to the previous version - 2.1.0.0.

EDIT: Scott missed your edit. I think the big difference is that big buttons are supposed to work better in this version.

[scottl]

I updated my post while you were posting cyberdude. Since I have TX and (from what I understand) the updates to code were for Treos and to make it free, I'm falling back a version too. Man, I hate to not have the latest though!

EDIT: :D Hah! We did it again. Too funny... :D

[goonie]

Dmitry, I never paid for this program, just downloaded it recently for the first time, and I've had a lot of fun with it over the last few days. I don't find the nag screen obtrusive at all (though if I had paid for it, maybe I'd see things differently.) For those folks in my boat, I don't think we have anything to reasonably complain about. If you're not changing skins and opening the program, you never would see this anyway. The sound effects are extra nice, I never knew that was part of this program. Particularly nicer than that harsh touch-tone-like beep that's standard in Palm OS.

There's one thing I'd like to do and that's colorize one of the skins to have a different color for the text under the icons on the main launcher (it's too close to the color of my background picture). I've gone through the whole process of trying to colorize it on my TX (change color on the palette, give skin a new name, try to "advanced colorize" certain items), but I cannot figure out what individual element needs to be modified, and once the whole process is done, the Palm crashes anyway-- I get message "Window failed to create (Sys0502)" and then it resets. Anyone have luck with colorizing existing skins?

[I love my mom]

Are there any hacks that are known to conflict with SkinUI? I have 2 or three of Pruss' and dmitrys hacks on my device, and skinui crashes terribly.

Reading all your success stories is making me jealous :D

[dmitrygr]

disable big button skinning...

[I love my mom]

It's not when I apply a skin, it's when I open the application. It crashes when searching for skins, or occasionally when it makes it past that stage, it crashes when I tap the skins button.

[FranckW]

There's one thing I'd like to do and that's colorize one of the skins to have a different color for the text under the icons on the main launcher (it's too close to the color of my background picture).

I'd like to know that too...

[cyberdude]

It's not when I apply a skin, it's when I open the application. It crashes when searching for skins, or occasionally when it makes it past that stage, it crashes when I tap the skins button.
Sounds like you don't have any skins installed, you did install the cobalt skin didn't you?

[dmitrygr]

crashes on listing means your device is really fuc ked up... i'd love to get a backup of that TX. could you nvbackup and email?

[FerdFerd]

I get the reminder to buy apps at Palmpowerups the first time I start SkinUI after any soft reset. I don't think it's any other time after it's first installed, but the nag comes back after every reset. Since my device is set to reset after its nightly backups, that means daily.

I can live with it.

[dmitrygr]

hm, ill chec
and also make big button skinning an option
new ver out in a few mins

[Another Michael]

On TX:

A: If you use ClipPro you have to disable all features of SkinUI to make it work again. (thats not really a problem.)

B: If you use SlovoEd V6.07 and whish to popup the resident modul nothing helps, it won't come up, also if you have SlovoEd on the exclude list and "unload Sikin UI" activated.

So far no more problems.

[dmitrygr]

uploaded better version.
disabled big buttons by default
and fixed the "nag"

[icefireicefire]

uploaded better version.
disabled big buttons by default
and fixed the "nag"
It crashes my zodiac on startup ever since 2.0.5.0...even after a hard reset. Any fixes?

[I love my mom]

It crashes my zodiac on startup ever since 2.0.5.0...even after a hard reset. Any fixes?

Zodiac is a little different. It doesn't use all standard palm libs. Mine will work after a hard reset, just not at the current state...

EDIT: For clarification, I don't use a zodiac

[JavaJiveJump]

uploaded better version.
disabled big buttons by default
and fixed the "nag"Thank you again!! Very good of you, Dmitry!

Besides the nag and the big buttons off by default, anything else?
For the LD it was already pretty smooth! :)

Only thing so far is the StatBar DA stopped working when I started to use SkinUI for some reason. (It slides the StatBar out of the way and comes in handy when using Church Punk pTunes skin).

Again, thanks so much!

[dmitrygr]

skinui also managed dia and statusbar, but it does not use the standard API (they are crap). the api it uses override anything any other app has to say about the statusbar state

[_Em]

...except MaxX, which can still be used to hide the statusbar :)

[dmitrygr]

well, maxX takes "undocumented" to a whole new level. It usurps the whole display and statusbar never knows what hit it

[icefireicefire]

well, maxX takes "undocumented" to a whole new level.
Sigged :).

[JavaJiveJump]

well, maxX takes "undocumented" to a whole new level. It usurps the whole display and statusbar never knows what hit itPlease fill me in. :)

(all this time I thought it was only making NetFront run properly on my LD)

skinui also managed dia and statusbar, but it does not use the standard API (they are crap). the api it uses override anything any other app has to say about the statusbar stateCan skinui get rid of the statusbar too?

I'll use either.

[_Em]

With MaxX installed, you can drag your stylus or finger from right to left across the top of the screen to hide/show the statusbar. Alex's feature in MyKbd works too, but is a bit more flaky to trigger when SkinUI is installed.

Using this trick in NetFront landscape mode also zooms NF to fullscreen, hiding its own statusbar and moving the scrollbars to 1 pixel lines on the edges of the screen.

[dmitrygr]

I meant MaxX's methods. OS 5.4+changed alot about the OS's API, so what maxX does is it pretty much downgrades the os to 5.2.1 while netfront runs.

[JavaJiveJump]

Thank you very much guys!! This is great!! Lovin' it!

I wonder what other goodies I've been missing! :)

[thomas_92]

Thank you!!!!

[intellidryad]

Wow, long time since I last came to 1src, and what a big treat! A thank you to you, too, Dmitry!

The Palm scene has became as dull as any other dead platform that I got lazy on checking Palm news now.

IMHO, it's a nice twist for you to get rejected by Palm Inc. and accepted into VMware. VMware is a company with a real future, while Palm, well, maybe very busy putting finishing touches to it's grave.

Good luck!

[burkele]

Hi Dimtry and great job! Any way of getting instructions on using this brillant bit of software? Cheers.

[_Em]

It has a built-in tutorial to get you started :)

[Debussy]

Dmitry,

First of all many thanks for continuing to innovate P-OS where Palm itself dropped out. I am so disappointed that it was Apple that came with the iphone, where it should have been Palm. They had everything to do it, but failed, and still fail miserably to innovate. But you carried on! Great, and a lot of fun for us to follow.

When I saw your message, I decided to leave my TX for what it is and I just stepped over to the dark side.

So long 1src!

Take care, dmitry!

[Treo Musketeer]

Sadly, it does not because of PalmRevolts new compression. I have my own uncompressed version, that will import into SkinUI, but crashes when previewed. I think I would have to create a version specifically for SkinUI, and since I don't see myself using PalmOS devices to much longer, that is highly unlikely to happen.


Sorry to hear that you may be leaving the Palm community as well, Brent. I have appreciated your contributions on Tam's Palm, on Brighthand, and here at 1SRC. I'll take a look at one of the other recommended apps for OpenMoko.

[JavaJiveJump]

...IMHO, it's a nice twist for you to get rejected by Palm Inc. and accepted into VMware. VMware is a company with a real future, while Palm, well, maybe very busy putting finishing touches to it's grave.Yes, indeed!

[FerdFerd]

uploaded better version.
disabled big buttons by default
and fixed the "nag"
I'm traveling and can't test very much, but for me at least, the nag is not completely gone. It doesn't return after a soft reset, but it sill comes once in a while after the first time. If I discover a pattern, I'll report back.

[FranckW]

"nag" was better in 2.2.0.0 I think.
It comes on second launch then from time to time but I can't find any pattern.

Not annoying anyway !

[Bla8]

You guys should stop moaning all the time when the software is right there and completely free of charge. How many times do you change your skins a day anyway. Anyway, I am sure VMware is a great place for Dimitry, especially since he appears very specialised in Assembly code and has deep understanding of hardware. Good luck there Dimitry!

[mrpropre]

This is a realy nice piece of software, but this freeware version is not zodiac compatible anymore (Fatal alert).

Will it be difficult to fix it?

[icefireicefire]

This is a realy nice piece of software, but this freeware version is not zodiac compatible anymore (Fatal alert).

Will it be difficult to fix it?
You need to ask dmitry for a key to 2.0.5.0, that version works. I don't know if he will make keys though, or relase that version as freeware.

[dmitrygr]

post your id#, here
me or _Em can generate you a key :D

[phreakonaleash]

I meant MaxX's methods. OS 5.4+changed alot about the OS's API, so what maxX does is it pretty much downgrades the os to 5.2.1 while netfront runs.
How hard would it be to boink an UnCache UI onto this? So that one could attach it to any application you wanted to, not just NF? I'd love to use it to make a few of my applications extra fast (like MaxX does to netfront -- It's a lot faster than my base setup) without overclocking on them.

[icefireicefire]

post your id#, here
me or _Em can generate you a key :D
Thank you! ID#: s3-Z2euu1To. _Em tried, but it didn't work?

[dmitrygr]

How hard would it be to boink an UnCache UI onto this? So that one could attach it to any application you wanted to, not just NF? I'd love to use it to make a few of my applications extra fast (like MaxX does to netfront -- It's a lot faster than my base setup) without overclocking on them.



i could, BUT this will disable ALLL hacks for those apps. including skinui, yahm, and ANYTHING else!

[dmitrygr]

Thank you! ID#: s3-Z2euu1To. _Em tried, but it didn't work?


Ah, yeah, he has the old algo, here is your key: 2DHSAB6

[icefireicefire]

Ah, yeah, he has the old algo, here is your key: 2DHSAB6
Thanks a LOT! Now my Zodiac looks great! Palm really should include this, or at least a stripped down version...

[phreakonaleash]

i could, BUT this will disable ALLL hacks for those apps. including skinui, yahm, and ANYTHING else!
Yeah, like netfront :)

[mrpropre]

post your id#, here
me or _Em can generate you a key

Ok, my ID is: s3-20G9B4C


Thanx!

Edit: I use the 2.0.3.2 version since I can't find the 2.0.5.0...

[aliquat]

Dmitry,

Thankyou so much for all you've done for Palm OS and it's followers. PowerDIGI has prevented me selling my beloved TX, and every one of your fabulous little apps has definitely changed Palm OS. It's nice to know that while Palm clearly take no care of their software and users, people like you are out there. I really look forward to the SDHC support!

[icefireicefire]

Ok, my ID is: s3-20G9B4C


Thanx!

Edit: I use the 2.0.3.2 version since I can't find the 2.0.5.0...
Here is 2.0.5.0: http://rapidshare.com/files/110822134/skinUI.prc.html

[mrpropre]

Thank you very much ice!

Now my ID is s3-Z239VJiB

[dmitrygr]

APP: skinUI
KEY: 274A3R8

[mrpropre]

Merci dmitrygr!

[FerdFerd]

Someone farther up this thread suggested we quit complaining about the reminder to buy applications at PalmPowerups. I think I've been careful in my reports about them to say that I can live with them and that I am happy to have this application made available freely to the community. It has revitalized my interest in my Palm TX, at least for now.

That said, Dmitry seems to be at least mildly interested in eliminating the reminder after the first use, or he wouldn't have put out a version intended to keep it from returning after every soft reset. If he is still interested in doing so, I now report that the new version does eliminate the reminder when SkinUI is launched for the first time after a soft reset. However, when I launch it a second time after a reset, the reminder reappears. This is a reliable pattern in my hands: Soft reset. Launch SkinUI - no reminder screen. Launch SkinUI a second time - the reminder screen appears. After this second launch, there are no further appearances until the next soft reset.

Because my device is set to perform a soft reset after its nightly backups and because I am still fiddling with finding the skin I like best and trying new options, I am seeing the reminder screen each day. Once I settle down, of course, I won't notice this behavior.

Dmitry, if you are interested in removing this screen after the first time the application is used, perhaps this information will be of use.

[Contradude]

Dmitry,

I use a zodiac as well. Could I please get a Reg Code for 2.0.5.0?

My ID is s3-Z12oB071

Thank you!

[dmitrygr]

APP: skinUI
KEY: 1M43BR8

[Contradude]

thank you very much, dmitry!

[technical1]

Would someone please update the Noia skin 4 SkinUI to v10 skins standard? It can be found at www.canuck-software.ca

I don't have the experience, skills, or s/w to do this - just saw it mentioned today either here, or on versiontracker, or PalmInfoCenter.... & I like it very much, it is visually appealing & there are Noia app icons for Zlauncher for anybody interested...

TIA,

[Bla8]

Don't have the source code for that one, You will have to ask the author for it.

[gtbaum]

Dmitry,

Zodiac user here, can you send me a reg code for 2.0.5.0?

ID is s3-Z1LGJ809

Thanks!

[yehob]

don't mean to push, but there was a app you had once, called palmsfx or something like that.
it was great at shrinking apps (though it took forever to do so), and even better at launching them (instantly, if i recall correctly).
i don't believe you sell it on your site anymore, and i don't even know if it is OS5 (meaning TX) compatible, but could you release it too.
thanks.

[I love my mom]

don't mean to push, but there was a app you had once, called palmsfx or something like that.
it was great at shrinking apps (though it took forever to do so), and even better at launching them (instantly, if i recall correctly).
i don't believe you sell it on your site anymore, and i don't even know if it is OS5 (meaning TX) compatible, but could you release it too.
thanks.

It's on this page now:

http://palmpowerups.com/downloads.php?cat_id=1

Anything that's not on the main page anymore should still be on his site under the downloads section.

[vovka1965]

It's on this page now:

http://palmpowerups.com/downloads.php?cat_id=1

Anything that's not on the main page anymore should still be on his site under the downloads section.
Tried on my TX -- resets the device instantly.. Even if I run after warm reset..

[dmitrygr]

it is not tx compatible
there is such a version, but not public

[icefireicefire]

What does it do? Is it free?

[_Em]

it compresses resources in prcs so the files take up less space IIRC. Most likely only works reliably on non-NVFS devices.

[Supertrucker]

Thanks for all of your contributions to Palm OS!

[rianvanu]

Dmitry, thanks for all...

[JavaJiveJump]

skinUI Version 2.0.5.0

ID: "se-Z3iBi4ii"

May I please have the reg. code too?

Thank you much!

[OLD_HATCH]

I had to do fresh start on my Treo since I had a strange battery drain problem and have come into a problem when reinstalling skinUI.

The big buttons no longer work! It is checked on in the prefs section and no dice! I reinstalled from my old backup and same issue. reinstalled from the version posted here (ver 2.1.0) http://www.1src.com/forums/showpost.php?p=1005605&postcount=124 and still no big button effect! arrrrrrrgh!


Dmitry do you have any ideas? could it be something thats conflicting with it or Im missing a file on my Treo to get this to work?

I dont care if the words dont show up it looks so plain and nasty without it.

[cyberdude]

I had to do fresh start on my Treo since I had a strange battery drain problem and have come into a problem when reinstalling skinUI.

The big buttons no longer work! It is checked on in the prefs section and no dice! I reinstalled from my old backup and same issue. reinstalled from the version posted here (ver 2.1.0) http://www.1src.com/forums/showpost.php?p=1005605&postcount=124 and still no big button effect! arrrrrrrgh!


Dmitry do you have any ideas? could it be something thats conflicting with it or Im missing a file on my Treo to get this to work?

I dont care if the words dont show up it looks so plain and nasty without it.
The big buttons effect is checked?

[_Em]

The big buttons effect is checked?
It isn't supposed to be in the latest version -- you have to turn it on intentionally.

The other thing to do is use CleanStart to disable all other software and see if the problem persists. If it doesn't, you've got a software conflict you need to fix.

[OLD_HATCH]

Big buttons is checked.

Software conflict is what im thinking unless im missing a file I ad before or the like.



*EDIT*


I deleted and reinstalled Takephone and i now have my big buttons back. No conflict for now. Theyve always played well together and the onlly diff in this fresh start was order of install. (takephone first)


Alls well again though.



*EDIT*

[cyberdude]

Glad you figured it out. :)

[JavaJiveJump]

skinUI Version 2.0.5.0

ID: "se-Z3iBi4ii"

May I please have the reg. code too?

Thank you much!
Hate to quote myself -hehe- but would you have the code for me please (Dmitry, _Em)?

Thank you... :)

[dmitrygr]

se- is not a valid code prefix...get a valid code, then we'll talk...

[JavaJiveJump]

sorry! typo-- hit the "e" instead of "3"

s3-Z3iBi4ii

thanks... (I didn't realize)

[dmitrygr]

APP: skinUI
KEY: 2KPT6JA

[ixle]

Is it just me but pestering someone about a piece of well established freeware does not seem like a very good way to say thank you. That being said, I tried it again on my T680 but I think it still caused a few crashes. Oh well.

Just my 2¢

[JavaJiveJump]

I wasn't trying to be a pest. I really appreciate the software, but I downloaded the version that didn't run the pop-up and for that you need a code. Until the code is entered you'll run out of trial days and skinUI becomes deactivated.

Again, thank you Dmitry! No nag intended.

[TheDreammaster]

Thanx for all your hard work and devotion to make Palm OS better and better!!!.

Thank you for all the good moments (and the T3 red led for SD reading :))

My best wishes in your life and career!.

[scottl]

(and the T3 red led for SD reading)Aww... Did you have to bring that up? Man, I miss my LED/T3 - especially once it was Dmitry-ized. Every time I fire that red & green blinkin'' bad boy up in front of my TX I feel bad for the new kid! I still can't believe Palm didn't put such a simple little component in there... :mad:

[tosbsas]

to make you suffer more -my t3 tells me to do that (:-) -there even is the bat hack, that gives you green light with full battery, red with 50% or the percentage you like and orange for even less (:-))

So goodbye TX and hello T3

Ruben

[dmitrygr]

we can do the led thing on the tx too :-) i have an RGB that fades from blue to red as battery drains :-)

jealous yet?

[icefireicefire]

I don't even have a T|X, and I'm jealous!

[dmitrygr]

I don't even have a T|X, and I'm jealous!


i'll trade a flashable Tx for a flashable zodiac :-)
ii might throw a TE2 into the deal :)

[scottl]

we can do the led thing on the tx too :-) i have an RGB that fades from blue to red as battery drains :-) jealous yet?Uh, yeah. Terribly jealous! So is this little treasure documented anywhere?

[phreakonaleash]

In Dima's mind, no doubt. ;)

[dmitrygr]

it was one of my pet projects that never made it out to the world

[_Em]

...and it DOES involve replacing the LED with an RGB one; this isn't a software-only hack. It is neat that the TX circuit board has so much functionality available if it is populated with the correct components however :)

[dmitrygr]

not replacing - adding one. tx originally has no led. i added a PIC and a rgb led.
PIC communicates with the processor over a simple uni-directional serial bus, and uses its PWMs to drive the LED components

[icefireicefire]

i'll trade a flashable Tx for a flashable zodiac :-)
ii might throw a TE2 into the deal :)
If you give me the GBA emu :). No really, I would, but I only have one charger. If you get a charger (ask at tapland?), I'm all over this.

BTW, my extra Zod only works w/ slot 1 (but slot 2 is just missing a spring, if anyone could fix it, it would be you :)).

If you can get a charger, I would LOVE to trade for a TX (E2?)!

[dmitrygr]

no gab, sorry
i'd need to write a full ui for it - too much work

where can i get a charger?

[icefireicefire]

I'd ask in the SDHC thread at Tapland, someone might send one...

[OLD_HATCH]

Dmitry or any of the skinmakers out there.

Is there a txt file somewhere about what all the bmps are? I mean some are easy to figure out by looking at the picture and the letters. Say "TL" means top left but theres some that I cant decipher either by looking at the picture or the abbreviations even when looking back at the rcp file.

Its not everything but there are some that are kinda hard to figure it out.

[phreakonaleash]

The rcp file has comments.

[OLD_HATCH]

I looked at the rcp file and the comments too. Almost all are understandable but there are a few that are not. I think I have down about what 90% of the bitmaps are but even with the descriptions in the rcp file some of them are just not recognizeable to the avarege joe like me.


Like which file do you edit to change the top section color (usually white) next to the tab?

[gsparks2]

When I install the SkinUI with LauncherX, I receive a soft reset about 1-2 seconds after an incoming call arrives. I see something on the LauncherX forums about the LaucherX header not being handled exactly right.

I use a Treo 680 with latest versions of LauncherX and had the latest SkinUI.

Is there a solution other than removing LauncherX?

[gsparks2]

When I install the SkinUI with LauncherX, I receive a soft reset about 1-2 seconds after an incoming call arrives. I see something on the LauncherX forums about the LaucherX header not being handled exactly right.

I use a Treo 680 with latest versions of LauncherX and had the latest SkinUI.

Is there a solution other than removing LauncherX?

[JavaJiveJump]

echo? :) You can configure SkinUI not to try to skin LauncherX under the "apps" button. Add Launcher X and choose to "Completely unload SkinUi"

Hope that helps....

[cyberdude]

echo? :) You can configure SkinUI not to try to skin LauncherX under the "apps" button. Add Launcher X and choose to "Completely unload SkinUi"

Hope that helps....
If you do that every app you launch from LX, which is after all a launcher, will not be skinned as skinning is inherited. I use LX and skinui on my TX and the only real problem is that LX doesn't redraw correctly. It takes about 2-3 seconds longer than it should so a tab appears in the upper left hand corner. the following screenshot which is over a year old illustrates the problem:
http://canadmin2.ca.aecom.yu.edu/screenshots/lx/lx_screen5.jpg

[JavaJiveJump]

Thanks .... I didn't know. Do you have any screenshots of your Palm "desktop" to see your LauncherX setup. Why do you like LauncherX? What do you think about zLauncher? (I'm trying to figure what I will replace my YiShow with).

[cyberdude]

Thanks .... I didn't know. Do you have any screenshots of your Palm "desktop" to see your LauncherX setup. Why do you like LauncherX? What do you think about zLauncher? (I'm trying to figure what I will replace my YiShow with).
I have plenty of screenshots of my palm if you want me to post a more current one. LauncherX does everything I want a launcher to do with a much smaller footprint than Zlauncher has. ZL has a steeper learning curve as well, where you can virtually use LX "out-of-the-box". Granted that LX hasn't been updated in a while (understatement) and doesn't have iconsets like ZL. Also you can't set backgrounds like you can in ZL (one of the most requested upgrades to LX). Still I've tried virtually every launcher that works on a TX and I like LX the best. The user community at www.launcherxplanet.com is really great and superbly helpful (some of the LX support people admin this unofficial site). Launchers in the end are a matter of personal preference. You really have to trial each one to get a feeling for it and then make a decision.

[JavaJiveJump]

Thank you much! I will check out the link! :)

Yes, I'd love to see your recent screenshots of LX. Thanks!

[cyberdude]

Here are 2 current screenies. The first is of my home tab and the second shows my DIA using mykbd and a custom keyboard I created. I use the blackhide skin by Velo, but I hide the bottom toolbar (note the red dot in the first screen) and use FerdFerd's statusbar with showbattery and FF's SB skin.
http://canadmin2.ca.aecom.yu.edu/screenshots/launcherx/lx01.jpg http://canadmin2.ca.aecom.yu.edu/screenshots/launcherx/lx00.jpg

[OLD_HATCH]

I wonder if someone can help me out?

Im trying to use the skinmaker program to make something with animations but I need help in how to choose colors.


This in an example from the rcp file:



//values of 0x31 0x33 0x33 0x37 mean let system decide this color

0x00 0xCC 0xCC 0xCC //UIMenuFrame --command bar border color
0x00 0xFF 0xFF 0xFF //UIMenuFill --menu unselected background
0x00 0x00 0x00 0x00 //UIMenuForeground --menu unselected text
0x00 0x00 0x99 0xFF //UIMenuSelectedFill --menu selected background
0x00 0xFF 0xFF 0xFF //UIMenuSelectedForeground --menu selected text
0x00 0xFF 0xFF 0xFF //UIFieldBackground --field background, should be same as form background
0x00 0x00 0x00 0x00 //UIFieldText --field lines





Now what do these "0x00 0x00 0x00 0x00" and the like mean? How do I choose a color? I am used to the hue/sat or red/green/blue method of choosing a color.


Can anyone break this down for me or point me in the right direction on how to figure this out?

[Ou_Boet]

[QUOTE=cyberdude]Here are 2 current screenies..... ...... and use FerdFerd's statusbar with showbattery and FF's SB skin.
http://canadmin2.ca.aecom.yu.edu/screenshots/launcherx/lx01.jpg

Tom

Can you PM me with a copy of showbattery that you use. I also use FerdFerd's status bar but right now only have Henks showbattery skin. It looks OK, but the one you have looks way better.

Thanks

OB

[cyberdude]

[QUOTE=cyberdude]Here are 2 current screenies..... ...... and use FerdFerd's statusbar with showbattery and FF's SB skin.
http://canadmin2.ca.aecom.yu.edu/screenshots/launcherx/lx01.jpg

Tom

Can you PM me with a copy of showbattery that you use. I also use FerdFerd's status bar but right now only have Henks showbattery skin. It looks OK, but the one you have looks way better.

Thanks

OB
FerdFerd's SB skin is located here (http://www.1src.com/freeware/fileinfo.php?id=1656) in the freeware section. It is a collection of skins he made.

[dmitrygr]

I wonder if someone can help me out?

Im trying to use the skinmaker program to make something with animations but I need help in how to choose colors.


This in an example from the rcp file:



//values of 0x31 0x33 0x33 0x37 mean let system decide this color

0x00 0xCC 0xCC 0xCC //UIMenuFrame --command bar border color
0x00 0xFF 0xFF 0xFF //UIMenuFill --menu unselected background
0x00 0x00 0x00 0x00 //UIMenuForeground --menu unselected text
0x00 0x00 0x99 0xFF //UIMenuSelectedFill --menu selected background
0x00 0xFF 0xFF 0xFF //UIMenuSelectedForeground --menu selected text
0x00 0xFF 0xFF 0xFF //UIFieldBackground --field background, should be same as form background
0x00 0x00 0x00 0x00 //UIFieldText --field lines





Now what do these "0x00 0x00 0x00 0x00" and the like mean? How do I choose a color? I am used to the hue/sat or red/green/blue method of choosing a color.


Can anyone break this down for me or point me in the right direction on how to figure this out?

go here: http://www.free-color-picker.com/scripts/fcp302.html?ifn=input_6a&sam=colsel

move mouse over color you want

on top left it will say something like #234567

the 6 numbers after the # are the color. break them down into groups of 2 chars, so for this example it will be: 23 45 67, then put them in skinui format by adding a 00 up front: now you have 00 23 45 67
now just add 0x in front of each group

so for that color we get 0x00 0x23 0x45 0x67

there is also a special value 0x31 0x33 0x33 0x37, if you put this for color, it means "system decides color"

[OLD_HATCH]

Thank you!

That helps tons.

Off i go at my first attempt.

[Ou_Boet]

Thanks Tom

OB

[JavaJiveJump]

Very helpful Dmitry!! B)

[Mithinco]

No, thank you dmitry for all you've done! I wish you the best of luck and I hope you enjoy being at VMWare.

[phreakonaleash]

there is also a special value 0x31 0x33 0x33 0x37, if you put this for color, it means "system decides color"
That's '1337' in ascii, is it not? :D

[dmitrygr]

that was the original idea :)

[MyNameIsPenny]

Hi, First let me thank Dmitry for this awesome looking app and making it freeware. :)

With that being said I hope someone can help me with a problem I am having with installing SkinUI. After downloading and installing SkinUI I open the program for the first time and it runs me through the tips and then where I can import skins. After that when I hit exit it resets my phone. Each time after that when I try to open the app it resets my phone. It doesn't matter how many times I make an attempt it resets. I have uninstalled and reinstalled and the same result happens.

I hope I said that right as I have uninstalled it again.

[cyberdude]

Hi, First let me thank Dmitry for this awesome looking app and making it freeware. :)

With that being said I hope someone can help me with a problem I am having with installing SkinUI. After downloading and installing SkinUI I open the program for the first time and it runs me through the tips and then where I can import skins. After that when I hit exit it resets my phone. Each time after that when I try to open the app it resets my phone. It doesn't matter how many times I make an attempt it resets. I have uninstalled and reinstalled and the same result happens.

I hope I said that right as I have uninstalled it again.
I know you probably don't want to hear this, but ...

Try a warm reset and then install skinui
then reset and see what happens
If you still get resets, do a full backup and then do a hardreset
install skinui
If it works now, you most probably have a non-compliant app on your phone.

After you have restored your device, try downloading tealscan and see if it can detect any problems. Also a freeware app called PalmInternals is a great way to find out if there is a rogue app on your device. Install and run PI. Let it do a scan, if it resets near the end of the scan or resets when you tap "Notif" after the scan, you most likely have a bad app.

Instead of doing a hard reset and starting from scratch, you can use cleanstart to eliminate possible culprits without uninstalling them (at least this is a good way to start). Get Cleanstart in the freeware section.

[MyNameIsPenny]

Will try those...thanks :)

[MyNameIsPenny]

Ok, the hard reset and just a hotsync without full restore using NVBackup worked so far. But, since I didn't do full restore should I try full restore now and then try installing again. If it does it again I will know it is something I had in my phone prior to the hard reset that was causing it.

[cyberdude]

Ok, the hard reset and just a hotsync without full restore using NVBackup worked so far. But, since I didn't do full restore should I try full restore now and then try installing again. If it does it again I will know it is something I had in my phone prior to the hard reset that was causing it.
Yes do a full restore and see what happens.

Like I said if you are still getting resets install CleanStart and use the builtin only settings (I think it is called something like that) then do a reset and reinstall skinui. If that works start adding apps to your cleanstart profile 3 at a time. Reset after adding each set of apps and test skinui. When you start to get resets again eliminate the last 3 apps you added one at a time doing a reset after each elimination then a test with skinui. When you stop getting resets on the Skinui test, the last app you eliminated is the LIKELY culprit.

Notice I say likely. this is because there could be a conflict between 2 apps and the one you eliminate is the one that is bringing out the problem with another app. There is no good way to find this out, unless PalmInternals is still crashing on you in which case you may be able to isolate in a similar way to above. I had this happen with Dynaclock by Dmitry Grinberg. I never did find out what the other app was, although I suspect it had something to do with crash pro.

[MyNameIsPenny]

Ok, after complete restore all is still well! :) don't know what it was but sure glad it is fixed. :D

Thanks so much cyberdude (Tom)

[MyNameIsPenny]

Shoot one more question. I noticed that with the SkinUI skins that my custom alerts )msg,vmail etc. Do not show unless in palm default skin. Is there a way to make them show up?

[cyberdude]

Shoot one more question. I noticed that with the SkinUI skins that my custom alerts )msg,vmail etc. Do not show unless in palm default skin. Is there a way to make them show up?
Unfortunately, I'm using a different version of versamail (TX). Although, I have had virtually no difficulty with skinui when it comes to versamail.

What you can do is add it to the exclude list in skinui. There are a couple of apps you should exclude. My exclude list is as follows (of course, if you don't have the app - don't bother):

OffFlush 2.0
OnTimeRx
PalmPDF
Prefs (dmitry's version)
Tealscan
Uncache
Web (blazer)

Remember that any app that is excluded gives that exclusion to child apps. So don't exclude your launcher, or everything will be excluded.

[MyNameIsPenny]

Ok, the only thing that I needed to fix was the web. Maybe it is TreoLauncher but before I read this post I completely unloaded SkinUI in TreoLauncher and it fixed the problem and SkinUI still works in all other apps when launched from TreoLauncher.
If I have any issues I know what the problem will be. Thanks again

[cyberdude]

Ok, the only thing that I needed to fix was the web. Maybe it is TreoLauncher but before I read this post I completely unloaded SkinUI in TreoLauncher and it fixed the problem and SkinUI still works in all other apps when launched from TreoLauncher.
If I have any issues I know what the problem will be. Thanks again
Your welcome. It sounds like the builtin launcher - if that is what treolauncher is - may not let apps launched from it inherit its skinning properties. I use a third party launcher (LauncherX) and when I exclude it, everything I launch from it is unskinned. This also happens with alerts. If I happen to be in an app that is excluded in skinui and an alert pops up, then the alert is also unskinned.

[Modnar]

Well see what happens when I go away for a long time ;p

Anyway Thank you very much Dmitry for this and all the work you've done!!!!

Yes I have have to rare hard reset from your awesome implementations of things such as Maxx but it was worth it tbh!

Cheers again!

[broncot]

I am unable to install OSX-Apple, when I hotsync, I get an error saying 'unable to install invalid file'. When I downloaded it on my Treo 700p, it downloads it successfully, but it disappears. I can't find it using FileZ. I can download other skins on the Treo or install them via hotsync, why not this one?
Thanks

[icefireicefire]

Try a different place, such as the freeware section

[broncot]

Sorry, I probably should have mentioned, I am downloading from the skin page in palmpowerups.com
.

[broncot]

I downloaded the OSX skin from the thread-Vista Skin for skinUI 2.0.1.1, and it worked. It looked like the file was OSX_Apple, instead of OSX-Apple, which is what I got from palmpowerups.com. No matter, it worked- I colorized it, like the blue better, loving the animation-thanks for the awesome app Dmitry!

[JavaJiveJump]

I downloaded the OSX skin from the thread-Vista Skin for skinUI 2.0.1.1, and it worked. It looked like the file was OSX_Apple, instead of OSX-Apple, which is what I got from palmpowerups.com. No matter, it worked- I colorized it, like the blue better, loving the animation-thanks for the awesome app Dmitry!
I also made it into a Blue Apple. But it is still not quite right. Would you mind sharing your modified skin?

[broncot]

I don't know it's any better than what you did, I just randomly picked a color, but if you really want I'll share. How do I do that?

[zaoin]

Hello dmitrygr. :-)

I use a zodiac too.
My ID# is s3-ZSoB3DS for skinUI.

Thanks for all your work in Palm OS.

[javaerb]

Hi, I've seen mention about SkinUI having a pref to control speed of effects, but it does not show up on my T|X, only control for effects detail. Am I missing something? Thanks.

[dmitrygr]

that IS the control in question. the more detail, the less speed

[javaerb]

Thanks. I have noticed some anomalies. For example, popup lists (such as categories in the Apps view) do not seem to have their speed affected by the details setting. Also, the slide effect does not seem to work on the popups (whereas others do).

I know, it's free :)

[dmitrygr]

popuplists are always on max detail, since they are usually small

[icefireicefire]

But sometimes w/ a slow processor that is still a bit too slow...if you aren't too busy to fix that up :).

[OLD_HATCH]

popuplists are always on max detail, since they are usually small


I always wondered about that. I kinda thought something was hunp up by either skinui or a background app.

Your right about popup lists usually being very small to the point its barely noticed its on full detail. Some of the larger lists are noticeable though. Like the skin... list in skinui when choosing an option for the selected skin. :D

[javaerb]

Sorry, I haven't been able to find a spec for the skin file format. Could you give me a pointer to it? (I figure that's better than asking for an enhancement of the skin editor for the features it doesn't cover).

thanks!

[phreakonaleash]

http://palmpowerups.com/downloads.php?cat_id=2&rowstart=15
SkinUI Cobalt Skin Source. Spec is basically the rcp file.

[javaerb]

OK, I give up. I cannot find a resource that controls the list background color (see, for example, Vista Inspirat skin: no color change seems to affect the list background. Is this from a bitmap?)

[javaerb]

And also, the skins available for download are (mostly) without source, and I cannot find a program that extracts abmp resources from a .PRC file :(

[FerdFerd]

HPSkin Studio apparently will disassemble older SkinUI skins and allow you to make all the graphical modifications you like. Not sure about backgrounds. I have had no luck with it for the newer skins that include animation, and I gave up trying to edit skins.

[barakaspeed]

I'm having an issue where the 'yellow alert bell' or whatever it is called cannot be seen while the skin is in place. If I disable the "Title Bars" effect I can then see when that yellow bell is blinking. I enjoy having that notification yellow bell constantly there to remind me I still have alerts to attend to.

Anyone else experiencing this issue?

[sirian]

javaerb, to get a better understanding of how skin colors are assigned to, I
suggest you download the Cobalt Skin resource from the link posted by phreakonaleash.

Normal List and Popup List background colors are not assigned by bitmap, but by a color setting. I don't know what you're doing wrong.

These are the settings in the rcp file of the skin source.

UIObjectFill

Assigns the color of background for lists (both normal and popup)

UIObjectForeground

Color of text in lists.

UIObjectSelectedFill

Color of highlight when you highlight text in lists.

UIObjectSelectedForeground

Color of text when you highlight text in lists.


AFAIK, you cannot make colors set by the rcp file transparent (in case, that was what you were doing).

[wernst]

I'm having a showstopping issue with SkinUI.

It won't start without crashing, even after a warm reset, which I think precludes any conflicts with other background software

I have a verizon centro. The only background apps I have are:

CleanStart
NVBackup
Phone Technician
ChatterEmail

When installed, SkinUI (dated 9/13/08) immediately resets my treo when I tap its icon. I was able to see the tour with the new animations, but that's it. So it's not like I can even go into its settings and see what's going on.

I will get a "splash screen" for SkinUI when the Centro resets.

Any thoughts?

-Warr

[DickieD]

I've been waiting for somebody to post about this! This is indeed the absolute strangest happening I've seen on Palm period. For me it even kept crashing on start even after a hard reset with nothing installed at all but SkinUI.

At first (at that point) I thought it was a corruption on the SD card, so I tried removing the skinui directory... nothing. Tried removing the card completely... nothing. Tried a different card... nothing. Then tried sending it to a different device (my 650)... and IT was crashing. Finally sent it to my Centro (which is never used) and finally got it to work. So I thought could it actually be a problem that needs a zero-out reset not just a hard reset, no matter how little cents it seemed to make. So I decided to try it... except I accidentally didn't do a full zero-out reset (just did the hold sync button and press reset parts - a simple seemingly pointless bootloader reset)... soft reset out of it... and the bloody thing worked.

It gets wIErder tho, because after restoring from my backup, the problem started up again, even when I uninstalled and reinstalled SkinUI... so I launched the dumb bootloader mode again... and AGAIN IT WORKED.

Note that I have absolutely NO idea why this happened nor why such a seemingly stoopid solution worked (and I've used it constantly without any crashes since then - I even tried to force crashes to see if something would happen)... I just kno that now I'm not the only one to have seen this happen... and that I found a fix - the wIErdest one EVER - that worked (for me).

[dmitrygr]

sounds like a centro bug...
if only i had a centro and a desire to deal with more of
Palm's GarnetOS 5.4.9.2.4.6.3.34.5.332.wtf.436.244.3.55.245 bullsh it....oh wait...I don't - on either count.

[DickieD]

Doubt that - like I said, when trying to work it out the only device that actually DID work (originally) was the Centro.

N e ideas what could cause something like this to happen tho? Card directory/preference corruption? Like I said, even uninstalling SkinUI completely (with uninstall manager) didn't work - and neither did a hard reset and fresh install (via direct download, to be sure it was not a corrupt backup file or something). I mean like I said, this was definitely the strangest crash occurrence into which I've ever run period on any palm... and the "solution" was even wIErder.

[ejtbatchelor]

sounds like a centro bug...
if only i had a centro and a desire to deal with more of
Palm's GarnetOS 5.4.9.2.4.6.3.34.5.332.wtf.436.244.3.55.245 bullsh it....oh wait...I don't - on either count.

LMAO I'm willing to pay way more then $30.00 for DGOS. :)

[wernst]

I've been waiting for somebody to post about this! This is indeed the absolute strangest happening I've seen on Palm period. For me it even kept crashing on start even after a hard reset with nothing installed at all but SkinUI.

...So I thought could it actually be a problem that needs a zero-out reset not just a hard reset, no matter how little cents it seemed to make. So I decided to try it... except I accidentally did the wrong type of reset (just did the hold sync button and press reset parts - a simple seemingly pointless battery calibration reset)... soft reset out of it... and the bloody thing worked.

OK, pardon my ignorance, but what sort of reset are you doing? A "Battery Calibration Reset?" Never heard of that one before.

Given how my centro doesn't have a real reset button, how might I try this different kind of reset?

(Oh, and PalmRevolt, which I just tried last night, works just fine. Just a data point.)

-Warr

[JavaJiveJump]

I'm having a showstopping issue with SkinUI.

It won't start without crashing, even after a warm reset, which I think precludes any conflicts with other background software

I have a verizon centro. The only background apps I have are:

CleanStart
NVBackup
Phone Technician
ChatterEmail

When installed, SkinUI (dated 9/13/08) immediately resets my treo when I tap its icon. I was able to see the tour with the new animations, but that's it. So it's not like I can even go into its settings and see what's going on.

I will get a "splash screen" for SkinUI when the Centro resets.

Any thoughts?

-Warr
Actually, and strangely enough... SkinUI started doing the same thing on my LD after several months of flawless operation.

[wernst]

Upon further squinting, the Palm screen briefly displays "Loading SkinUI" in the top-left corner of the screen before resetting. We're talking about 1/4 of a second or so.

Glad to hear that I'm not the only one...

-Warr

[DickieD]

Like JJJ said, I too had been using SkinUI for ages without n e problems at all, until about 3 weeks ago when this happened out of nowhere (only thing I had done was switch skins a few days before and then put a new skin in the SkinUI folder that I wanted to try, but when I went to open it to try it, bang).

So try what I tried I guess - can't hurt: 1) Completely uninstall SkinUI & installed skins (using an uninstall tool if you have one like DestallerLite (mytreo.net/downloads/search.html?search=destallerlite), although the launcher delete on the Centro does the basic same thing); 2) Remove your SD card; 3) Launch Bootloader and Soft Reset; 4) Reinstall a clean download of SkinUI (without reinserting your card yet); 5) Try to run it - if successful, reinsert your card BEFORE exiting SkinUI, then restore your backup

Hope it works... and hope somebody can possibly figure out how this is actually happening

[dmitrygr]

NEVER ever use any uninstaller apps on my applications
you will do yourself a great disservice.
there is no good deinstaler apps on palm. NONE, ZERO, ZILCH, NADA, ...

there are bad ones and very bad ones.

[DickieD]

Tempted to ask: why

[dmitrygr]

1. None of them intercept system calls so they only guess what changes apps made
2. App2 installed after app1 might made made changes to same things, and deleting app1 will remove app2's changes as well
3. I said so. If you find anyone who knows the OS any better who says otherwise, tell me.

[wernst]

For kicks, I did a hard reset and then tried SkinUI on a totally clean Verizon Centro.

I got the exact same problem. Another data point.

-Warr

[DickieD]

Was only a question.

To note, DestallerLite, being the uninstaller I mentioned as a suggestion, does no monitoring at all - it merely deletes related prefs & DBs based on creatorID - the built-in handango launcher does this now, but previous versions did not (only the primary resource container/compiler would be deleted).

I will agree without question with you that Palm uninstallers are imperfect at best... but show me any "perfect" uninstaller - on N E platform. It is definitely a fact that without an uninstaller, many apps will leave traces (and in many cases large traces) in RAM that at minimum would decrease available RAM space. While this may definitely not be the case for your apps, it is also without question that if used properly (i.e. if someone knows what s/he is doing with it, thus being able to recognize an App1 over App2 scenario), an uninstaller - even a Palm one (like UninstallManager, by which I definitely do stand, particularly since it prompts the user whenever it may be deleting an improper file) - can be beneficial for apps to which such does apply.

Granted, one could argue that "if one knows how to recognize such differences, s/he could most likely just delete leftover things manually"... but then isn't that the point

[DickieD]

Oh; and I'll add that I agree with you on #3. You def do seem to have more command on PalmOS than n e (of the many) developers I've seen

[Contradude]

im running a 755p with the latest version (and a fresh install) of SkinUI and im still getting the big button crash using skinUI. any ideas how to make it more stable? thanks

[Gwidion]

... im still getting the big button crash using skinUI. any ideas how to make it more stable? thanks
Yes: don't use big buttons ^^
:D

[OLD_HATCH]

im running a 755p with the latest version (and a fresh install) of SkinUI and im still getting the big button crash using skinUI. any ideas how to make it more stable? thanks

You are on Sprint or Verizon right?