Unfortunately, new Clie is like this...

[Unregistered]

The coming Clie is just a NX60 replacement, exactly same shape.... Looks like I still have to go for Zire 71

[Alistar]

You don't know that for sure. There have been lots of speculations including a T-series form factor Hires+ Clie. Just wait and see what comes up.

[NX70BOY]

Originally posted by some Unregistered person who is only expressing an opinion
Unfortunately, new Clie is like this...

How do you know this? Can you tell us where you got this information? I'm not saying you are, but you could be making this up. Get something to back you up. You can't just post something like that and expect everyone to believe you. Especially being unregistered.

[Dropzone]

Yes, especially now with someone saying this new clie.. there seems to be a lot of unregistered posts coming along...

[jamester]

I would like to have an NX60. :)

[n2ifp]

It seems like there is a new Clie thread generated every day now with more rumors and speculations :).

[Jag]

I have actually quit looking at them.

[Caffeine kid]

The one thing I like about the palms is they release new models only a couple times a year. Gives you breathing room. Of course I am a huge palm fan and former clie fan. So I think my thoughts are jaded.

[stronggeek]

And with sony, it's like they give us too many choices?

A... I pick sony based on that logic. :)

Originally posted by Caffeine kid
The one thing I like about the palms is they release new models only a couple times a year. Gives you breathing room. Of course I am a huge palm fan and former clie fan. So I think my thoughts are jaded.

[Kozy21]

Just visit your local supermarket and go directly to the cereal isle, I'm sure the new clie is hidden in one of your favorite brands of cereal................."Gotta have my Clie Pops!" LOL

[cliejunkie]

I've heard nothing about a T series, only an NX/NR form factor.

[stronggeek]

Yea, me too! :)

Originally posted by Jag
I have actually quit looking at them.

[NX70BOY]

Originally posted by Jag
I have actually quit looking at them.

Originally posted by stronggeek
Yea, me too! :)

Apparently not. :D:D *LOL*

[Caffeine kid]

Originally posted by stronggeek
And with sony, it's like they give us too many choices?

A... I pick sony based on that logic. :)



But when a product is released and discontinued so quickly and another model takes its place then 3rd party companies are reluctant to keep releasing accessories for those items.

[Caffeine kid]

Palm all the way baby!!

[NX70BOY]

*clearing throat* This is ClieSource buddy. ;)

[Self2]

the day is almost over and no new clie...

[Jeffry]

so much bull**** from unregistered people... enough already...

[hherbzilla]

Originally posted by Jeffry
so much bull**** from unregistered people... enough already... I say let them spew forth their nonsense. They're just making the decision to require registration an easier one for reggie. :)

[Caffeine kid]

Originally posted by NR70BOY
*clearing throat* This is ClieSource buddy. ;)

I know, I had two models, the nr70v and the 760. But I gave them up.

I've posted more on this site then anyone here and I will stay here becuase its a great site, but you cant overlook the palms anymore.

[froesei]

I don't think I understand why unregistered posters bother people so much. It's not as if their posts are overloading the server and prohibiting registered users from posting. If you don't like what they have to say, or don't feel their posts are valid, why not just ignore them?

At least now people who require anonimity still have the ability to post, and some of those people do have worthwhile things to say. Just my opinion, of course.

[stronggeek]

That was my point! :)

Originally posted by NR70BOY




Apparently not. :D:D *LOL*

[stronggeek]

For one, you can't put them on the ignore list if you have to read the crap you're trying to ignore to find out it's from that individual first.

Originally posted by froesei
I don't think I understand why unregistered posters bother people so much. It's not as if their posts are overloading the server and prohibiting registered users from posting. If you don't like what they have to say, or don't feel their posts are valid, why not just ignore them?

At least now people who require anonimity still have the ability to post, and some of those people do have worthwhile things to say. Just my opinion, of course.

[froesei]

that's true, but I guess I'm making the assumption that there are a fair number of people who spend quite a bit of time at this site, and that in proportion to that, the time spend to read a short post and decide it isn't useful is fairly insignificant.

[spereira82]

Sony's upgrade cycle is a little fast. But I will never give up my clie. I have an NZ, and a cramp in my hand from the heft, but I will upgrade to the next one that's available.

I have tried them all and nothing beats a Clie.

[stronggeek]

You have a valid point, but that's why can keep what I havve for a while and if I choose to upgrade, I sell everything that's made for that unit.

Right now I'm using a nx70 and my girl usies T615 and both stylus and cradles among other things are interchangeble.

I doubt my luck will hold out for long.:)

 

Originally posted by Caffeine kid


But when a product is released and discontinued so quickly and another model takes its place then 3rd party companies are reluctant to keep releasing accessories for those items.

[stronggeek]

Logical assumption and you're probably right to a certain extent.

I've just got to be strong enough to stop reading and/or posting to the nonsense from both the reg and the unreg. once I've got the gist of the thread or comments.

I'd just rather not have to click on the tread, but there are many unreg. that do share valuable info

 

 Originally posted by froesei
that's true, but I guess I'm making the assumption that there are a fair number of people who spend quite a bit of time at this site, and that in proportion to that, the time spend to read a short post and decide it isn't useful is fairly insignificant.

[hherbzilla]

Originally posted by froesei
I don't think I understand why unregistered posters bother people so much.Here's what I wrote in another thread:
I don't see a big problem with flames, personal attacks and otherwise rude behavior. My biggest frustration is the lack of identity. All of the unregistered posts blur together. There's no sense of history because you can't link a name (and avatar) with a discussion.

When people have registered, you begin to learn what Clie they have, what software they use, what sort of technical skills they have (or don't have), where they live (whether country, coast, state or city), etc.. This makes it much easier to talk about things in the threads because you have some background to rely on. Ideally, this allows for a shorthand for both the poster and the reader: I don't have to repeat all of my info each time I post because there's some memory associated with me/my posts... but the regulars still know enough to respond. This is what REALLY builds the sense of community here... and even helps foster friendships.

Registering also provides some sense of accountability. If "MaxClieStud" is usually posting incorrect info/crap, I know to not put much credence in his posts. However, if he's always helpful and insightful, I'll pay special attention to his posts. This helps me filter out the things that waste my time from those that are worthwhile.

I think it boils down to this: Registering is the proper etiquette in forums such as this.

[keesercc]

register, register, register, REGISTER to COUNT... those who need *special* anoniminity (REAL tip people) can have a special pre-arranged "annomous" status, and therefore only reliable tippers will post with an unregistered anoniminty... watcha think

[cbulock]

Originally posted by keesercc
register, register, register, REGISTER to COUNT... those who need *special* anoniminity (REAL tip people) can have a special pre-arranged "annomous" status, and therefore only reliable tippers will post with an unregistered anoniminty... watcha think

How exactly are they anonoymus if they have a special account set up?

[Kaitou]

why not just have a public account created, which is locked from changing the profile details, etc, say "Anonymous Coward" (./) and then not only is anonimity preserved for people who prefer to post anonymously, but 1. it gives an incentive for them to register, and 2. you can ignore all posts by the username

[Roni]

or perhaps the posts should be made to change colors, as in a post that has been started by an unregistered is orange, and post with certain number/percentage of unregistered messages shown orange, or then just some color coding system that allows mods to change colors of posts? (on the main listing of postings)

[gvtexas]

Originally posted by froesei
I don't think I understand why unregistered posters bother people so much. <snip> If you don't like what they have to say, or don't feel their posts are valid, why not just ignore them?

Gee, that's what the spammers are whining about..."if you don't like the email, just delete it."

IMHO, unregistereds dilute the board's quality, add a level of mistrust, and eventually (potentially), unless forced to register, may grow to the point that they clog the system.

[Ezra4no1]

Originally posted by Caffeine kid
Palm all the way baby!!

Palm reminds me of Apple in too many ways....

But speaking of design only..

Palm has released some of the LAMEST designs I have ever seen in the last 2 years.. Palm has been the least creative OEM in the Palm PDA in comparison to their licensees, with the exception of the new Zire 71 and the Tungsten C which I do give them created for for thinking outside of thier tiny little boxes and trying something new and daring.

But like Apple, Palm could release a new 1 meg 16 mhz 160 x 160 low res mono PDA with only one button to navigate the thing with a sale price of $199 dollars, no matter how crappy it is and the mass public will run to it and call it a great idea and perfect for coma patients just starting to get into the PDA market.

I'd still stick with Sony... Despite what Palm will ever do, Sony will always have a better product with in 6 months. They were the first to truly make people in the Palm and PPC camps to give the Palm platform a second look and do something inovative to the Palm that has never been done before.

[archangel]

Palm still can't figure out how to make a decent MP3 player in their handhelds. If you can't get that right you should really forget about multimedia features in your handhelds.

The T/C is a nice device and I can't wait to see Sony blow it away with their next PDA.

[benixau]

I think the competition in the next model clie will not be so much specs as value.

It would need the following to hurt the T|C right now:

-400Mhz PXA255 (std PXA chip now)
-32MB EPROM (Flash ROM)
-64MB RAM (not likely more until model after this one)
-NX Form factor for both KB and VG
-Camera @ more than .3MP
-MP3 playback (which sony doesnt have this now?)
-Transreflective screen
-10hr backlight (30%) battery use
-Built-in BT and WiFi
-2 MSPro Slots
-Keeping the current connector (essential, palm's UC has helped them alot)
-A price no more than USD699 at the upper limit.

Now for things which would enhance it further that would be nice:

-Camera @ 1MP or more
-Five way navgiator (come on sony, this is stupid not having one)
-NZ hard buttons for tablet mode (this is a good idea)
-A better built-in speaker
-USB2 cradle or, i.Link (4 pin 1394a(firewire)) and USB2 combo - only if it has a 4-6pin adapter

This is what i see as a possible competitor to the T|C. The second list would make the Clie just that bit nicer and a more enticing buy.
<sarcasm>But of course, Sony's marketing and product teams already know this so I sould expect to see something like it ASAP </sarcasm>

[Vidge]

Originally posted by benixau

It would need the following to hurt the T|C right now:

-400Mhz PXA255 (std PXA chip now)
-32MB EPROM (Flash ROM)
-64MB RAM (not likely more until model after this one)
-NX Form factor for both KB and VG
-Camera @ more than .3MP
-MP3 playback (which sony doesnt have this now?)
-Transreflective screen
-10hr backlight (30%) battery use
-Built-in BT and WiFi
-2 MSPro Slots
-Keeping the current connector (essential, palm's UC has helped them alot)
-A price no more than USD699 at the upper limit.


Actually, I don't think it needs all of that to beat the T|C, at least not for me. I don't think a camera is necessary - nice, as I have one on my NR70V, but not necessary. Also, the 2 MSPro slots would be overkill for me. And somehow, I don't think a 10 hr backlight battery use is doable.

The rest I agree with :D , especially since I currently have a T|C in addition to my NR (altho the T|C is likely going back to the store!)

[Ni+Mh]

More and more rumors from unregistered users

[benixau]

vidge, at that price it better have a camera!
Also, the two MS slots - A lot of people who have more than one MS use one of them at least for apps.
Now think of it like this - MSSlot1 has a 512MB MSPro in it almost all the time which you have your apps on and maybe DBs aswell (powerrun). MSSlot2 is what you use for documents and MP3s etc.

I guess the battery was a bit unrealistic - but then at least a replaceable battery - not like the NZ90 though, a clip on one, like the apple ibooks have.

Battery is very important. I guess i would modify it to say a removable battery aswell as a 1hr non-bklight internal. That way when you replace the ext. or the ext. runs out of juice, you get a warning that you are on int. battery and it gives you that little extra time to get some juice into it.

Still, pretty close to what would be needed for a successful trump of palm's T|C ...

[Vidge]

Originally posted by benixau
vidge, at that price it better have a camera!
Also, the two MS slots - A lot of people who have more than one MS use one of them at least for apps.
Now think of it like this - MSSlot1 has a 512MB MSPro in it almost all the time which you have your apps on and maybe DBs aswell (powerrun). MSSlot2 is what you use for documents and MP3s etc.

I guess the battery was a bit unrealistic - but then at least a replaceable battery - not like the NZ90 though, a clip on one, like the apple ibooks have.

Battery is very important. I guess i would modify it to say a removable battery aswell as a 1hr non-bklight internal. That way when you replace the ext. or the ext. runs out of juice, you get a warning that you are on int. battery and it gives you that little extra time to get some juice into it.

Still, pretty close to what would be needed for a successful trump of palm's T|C ...

So give me one at $549 without the camera & only 1 MS slot and make you pay $699 for the camera & extra slot. We'd both be happy :D and at $549, the appeal to the corporate users (which is what the T|C is supposed to) would be there (only $50 more than the T|C):cool:

[quiksilver]

Originally posted by Unregistered
The coming Clie is just a NX60 replacement, exactly same shape.... Looks like I still have to go for Zire 71

I don't understand why we simply egg these unsupported rumor-mongers on - their threads get the highest number of posts! See the earlier "Sony Employee" claims of a new Clie and you'll know what I mean.

I say the right response to thread-starters who claim new Clies without a shred of evidence is to ignore them. They will wisen up once they realise they have no impact without real stuff backing their claims up.

[benixau]

Originally posted by Vidge


So give me one at $549 without the camera & only 1 MS slot and make you pay $699 for the camera & extra slot. We'd both be happy :D and at $549, the appeal to the corporate users (which is what the T|C is supposed to) would be there (only $50 more than the T|C):cool:

i guess. Sony seems to always have a clamshell design PDA with a camera and one without for those who dont need it.

well - now if sony read this they might get good ideas - wouldn't want that to happen ...