The StartUp of Wireless connectivity

[Wired]

With the NX, many speak of wireless connection through ftp, winhand and many other apps, but where in the United States do such things exsist. Sure, that you can set up a wireless router in your house, but where else do these come into play. Bluetooth is nearly a ghost as if you ask most phone resellers what phone has it, they look puzzled as though I asked for a tooth brush. Isn't there only one phone service provider that uses the ericson phone that has bluetooth and nothing else. If you are stuck at being home using wireless connection, stop hurting your eyes and just use your pc.

Yes, I would love to go wireless, but where do I even begin outside of the home? I suppose it might have had more of a growth in other states than Michigan where I live. I work in one of the newest buildings of the Big 3 automotive companies, and they have nothing wireless and have banned any device with a camara so now my NX70V sits hidden in my pocket not even being able to schedule meetings or mark due dates on projects.

Perhaps I am just stuck in a wired word that hates NX users-ugh I guess that is also tied into why I have a B.S in Computer Science and work a crummy job as well, as the job market and IT world here is awful!

Enough of my rambling. Peace

[berliner]

Originally posted by Wired
If you are stuck at being home using wireless connection, stop hurting your eyes and just use your pc.


I agree, if I'm on the pot and want to surf the net, I usually just bring my desktop into the bathroom. Using the keyboard on my lap isn't too hard. It's finding a place for the mouse that always gives me trouble. Maybe I should get a laptop?

[berliner]

Sorry for the silly reply. Here's my serious post:

I agree with you. Short of being able to surf the net while on the pot, using a wireless LAN on your PDA in the house is kind of pointless. I would like to see more network hotspots around, it would be great to have one on every street corner. However, I do find it quite useful on my college campus: Nova Southeastern University. Most of the areas on campus I use do have access to WiFi including the classroom which comes in quite handy when you have a boring lecturer.

[hherbzilla]

Well, it's certainly just a novelty for me right now. With the $50 rebate on the WiFi card, the price was low enough for me to bite. However, to answer your question, there ARE plenty of schools and offices that DO have wireless networks. There are some Starbucks and now even McDonald's (depending on where you live) where you can connect. It's nice to know that, if I stumble upon one of these locations, I can connect wirelessly if I want.

[Raybot]

I don't have the wireless LAN card yet (being in Oz we don't get nice rebates like you guys in the US do) ... however there are plenty of hotspots where I am (spending most of my recent life in university robotics research labs tends to do that to you!) ... one thing I'd find most useful though would be the ability to have telnet displays up on my PDA (and even better, X displays) ... many a time I'm in situations where I'm trying to figure out why some bit of equipment is going strange on me, at the moment I have to tweak something then dash over to a terminal to check the results (tripping over things on the way ... I almost faceplanted on a keyboard doing that!) then dash back ...

As for bluetooth and phones, I'm a little lost as to why the association between bluetooth and the phone network ... I think of bluetooth as like a wireless no-line-of-sight serial port connection or an IrDA connection ... its useful to connect your phone to other devices in your immediate vicinity but it really doesn't have an awful lot to do with the phone network ... perhaps I'm missing something here?


- Raybot

[Token User]

FWIW - The growing publicly accessible hotspot list in the USA ...

1. Starbucks (via T-Mobile).
2. Borders Books (via T-Mobile).
3. College campuses (some you need to register your MAC address, so not REALLY open).
4. Some public libraries.


Soon to be ...
1. McDonalds (with a Value Meal Purchase)
2. Verizon Payphones (to be trialled in Manhattan).

At home (non public - private WEP - obscure SSID - registered MAC addresses only) I use my NX70 /w WL100 to check email, hotsync, and do minor web stuff from the couch. If something major needs my attention via email, I'll get my fat a$$ off the couch and log into my main machine. But it is handy for a quick check of email or a fast google ... much quciker than turning on a computer, logging in, etc.

Forget about surfing for p0rn with the NX70 - too many of those pics at that screen size will send you blind.

[n2ifp]

Originally posted by berliner


I agree, if I'm on the pot and want to surf the net, I usually just bring my desktop into the bathroom. Using the keyboard on my lap isn't too hard. It's finding a place for the mouse that always gives me trouble. Maybe I should get a laptop?

Please be careful and not mistakenly wipe with the mouse instead of the TP :D!

[h_scott]

Call me foolish (you won't be the first) but I'm still hoping that Sony adds true wireless e-mail to a clie, and soon (same feature as on the Palm Tungsten W or i705). I travel for business and want to check e-mail on the go. Wi-Fi is unreliable (I don't frequent McDonalds) and Blue tooth requires more hardware / connections (it's just shouldn't be that hard). I'm sure that there are others out there that would love to have a better PDA (read Sony) with this feature. I don't want to use the PDA as a phone, just don't want to hook up the phone to the PDA to check e-mail!

[n2ifp]

Originally posted by h_scott
Call me foolish (you won't be the first) but I'm still hoping that Sony adds true wireless e-mail to a clie, and soon (same feature as on the Palm Tungsten W or i705). I travel for business and want to check e-mail on the go. Wi-Fi is unreliable (I don't frequent McDonalds) and Blue tooth requires more hardware / connections (it's just shouldn't be that hard). I'm sure that there are others out there that would love to have a better PDA (read Sony) with this feature. I don't want to use the PDA as a phone, just don't want to hook up the phone to the PDA to check e-mail!

You want the Air Card that is in Japan, but never made it elsewhere. There used to be someting like that awhile back, but maybe it never caught on. I know it was available for the Zaurus and some others. Basically you'd have coverage like a cellular phone does.

[Tixx]

Originally posted by n2ifp


You want the Air Card that is in Japan, but never made it elsewhere. There used to be someting like that awhile back, but maybe it never caught on. I know it was available for the Zaurus and some others. Basically you'd have coverage like a cellular phone does.

That really existed? Are we moving backward or forward now? Soon you will need to carry your Desktop PC with you to use your NX to access the internet only at Wal-Mart between the hours of 3:00 and 4:15 EST:)

[Raybot]

backward or forward? I'm a little lost ... AFAIK the AirCard is effectively a little cellphone in the form of a CompactFlash card with inbuilt GSM/GPRS data services ... hardly desktop PC ...

Or perhaps I missed the sarcasm of that post (sorry, its too early in the morning here :D)


- Raybot

[Tixx]

Originally posted by Raybot
backward or forward? I'm a little lost ... AFAIK the AirCard is effectively a little cellphone in the form of a CompactFlash card with inbuilt GSM/GPRS data services ... hardly desktop PC ...

Or perhaps I missed the sarcasm of that post (sorry, its too early in the morning here :D)


- Raybot

There was a little sacasm;)

[IB Michael]

I was in a nice little cafe the other day having lunch. The place sits across the street from Drake University. I asked my waitress if she could send over the owner. I knew in advance he was an old high school bud. We shoot the bull about the past and I pulled out my NX 70 and asked him why he didn't have a hot spot! The short version of this story is that I sold him the deal through a local Computer store here. My suggestion is to tell the busnesses we frequent that you'd like to see them have a hot spot. Worked for me....but then....I was born with a brain and a mouth....one of which works more that the other and there'll be no further description on that matter here. Try it folks....what have you to lose?

[rowillia]

Originally posted by IB Michael
I was in a nice little cafe the other day having lunch. The place sits across the street from Drake University. I asked my waitress if she could send over the owner. I knew in advance he was an old high school bud. We shoot the bull about the past and I pulled out my NX 70 and asked him why he didn't have a hot spot! The short version of this story is that I sold him the deal through a local Computer store here. My suggestion is to tell the busnesses we frequent that you'd like to see them have a hot spot. Worked for me....but then....I was born with a brain and a mouth....one of which works more that the other and there'll be no further description on that matter here. Try it folks....what have you to lose?
Excellent suggestion, IB!
Living in the Bay-area does spoil me, but I'm sure that there are many bookstore, coffee shop, cafe's that might welcome the
additional foot traffic if they installed Wi-Fi hot spots in their establishments. (Then again, the staff may complain that they're not "turning tables fast enough" with the loitering clientele!!!

[n2ifp]

Originally posted by rowillia

Excellent suggestion, IB!
Living in the Bay-area does spoil me, but I'm sure that there are many bookstore, coffee shop, cafe's that might welcome the
additional foot traffic if they installed Wi-Fi hot spots in their establishments. (Then again, the staff may complain that they're not "turning tables fast enough" with the loitering clientele!!!

There is always a downside to a good idea :(

[kdn102]

So...if I lose data because I dl'ed a malicious program, then in a state of shock, spill my coffee on my privates...can I then sue McD's for 3 billion dollars for loss of data transmission? (in both my genitals and my CLIE?)

Originally posted by hherbzilla
...and now even McDonald's (depending on where you live)...

[PvV]

Contrary to some comments, the Bluetooth connection is not as difficult as one might guess. If your PDA has Bluetooth built in, all you need is a BT-enabled cell phone. I use my NZ90 to connect to my T68i cell phone and can check e-mail and the net wirelessly without the need for a hotspot. Data rates are acceptable and the price is reasonable. Sony's Mobile Manager software has made set-up a breeze!

[gyffes]

And, KDN, you'll win, 'cause "personal responsibility" is an oxymoron in today's society.

BTW: Verizon's payphone wifi system in NYC will ONLY be for their existing (at home) internet customers. AND they have no plans to allow outsiders in.

Yet.

[avayaguy]

t-mobile.com has the info for roaming WLAN802.11b access at borders books nationally, starbucks, and at airport lounges (just the exec lounge areas most of us don't have access to of course).

Price is right.

When I'm at home, I use my WLAN port to access my email. It is nice to power up in 2 seconds versus 5-10 minutes on the laptop just to look for latest messages and respond... so I disagree... I think the nx70 with wlan at home is a no brainer for flexibility. Why power up a desktop or laptop if you don't have to?

I sure would like to see IMAP capabilities (not like versa mail... I mean REAL IMAP capabilities including send and receive secured authentication capabilities in an email package. I'm forced to use cliemail for my POP3/SMTP private mailbox and dataviz mail for my corporate sync to outlook to get all the capabilities I need. Not an issue to have 2 (all the others have too many gaps anyway).

[gyffes]

Are you saying that Cliemail has secure encryption in it, Avayaguy?

[ashVID]

Originally posted by Token User

Forget about surfing for p0rn with the NX70 - too many of those pics at that screen size will send you blind.


Hrrmm...I was always told it was something else that would make you go blind...


ash =o)

[n2ifp]

LOL :D!

[avayaguy]

In response to the question on cliemail and secure connection send and receive the answer is yes. I can get to my secured cablemodem network mailbox using cliemail. I still need dataviz mail to access sync of my outlook mailbox solely because I need attachment support on that (cliemail stinks on attachments).

Honestly I'm hoping to buy a Tungsten C soon as VersaMail 2.X that comes with it now supports every email capability I need and it integrates with docs to go very nicely!

[dmichael]

Sorry can anyone point me in the right direction for the -Sony's Mobile Manager software ?

i am having difficulties trying to get the bluetooth to connect the NX70 and the 610.

[lthwc]

http://www.ita.sel.sony.com/support/clie/conwiz/softupdates/index.html

[lthwc]

Portland, Oregon, apparently has a lot of hot spots for wireless: http://www.oregonlive.com/business/oregonian/index.ssf?/base/business/1046782677268070.xml

The O'Reilly Open Source Convention is being held in Portland this year: http://conferences.oreillynet.com/pub/w/23/see_do.html