Discontinued?

[TheSpies]

Does anyone know if it's true that the NX's we now own are already discontinued? I read over at Clieplanet that someone recieved an email from Expansys saying "This item has now been discontinued by Sony and replaced by an upgraded model." (Refering to the NX). I also thought i read somewhere that 5.2 was going to be released on this "re-launched" NX (meaning no upgrades for current users).

Anyone have any information?

[existenz]

Its possible that Expansys are saying that about the Grey/ Gunmetal NX.

They are still selling and stocking the Silver NX, but are registering a 5-14 day wait on the Grey. Which means they probably will never get any since you can't even get them from sonystyle anymore.

I would have thought NX's are still in production since they were only released in Oct 2002ish and the NZ is still not out.

Perhaps someone got confused between NR and NX. Easy to do and NR is deffinately out of production.

[mashoutposse]

I wouldn't expect the NX to be on its way out until closer to March.

[JC2K]

Jon has sent in an email he received from Expansys re the Sony Keyboards- "This item has now been discontinued by Sony and replaced by an upgraded model. Due to Sony's sudden decision to re-launch this product, we have been given no confirmed date of when it will become available to the market. There is very limited information available." Anyone have more information on this?

As you can see, the information is regarding the Sony Keyboards.

[pixelated]

how stupid----- the NX still has a few weeks left :-) J/K

I love my NX

[n2ifp]

Anymore, anything you purchase is obsoleted the day you buy it!

Sony says it will be cranking out Clies like never before!

[Otakud]

Originally posted by cwai02
now the price in sonystyle is $509... $90 cheaper

$509? where in the world on their site did you pull that number?

[arinvolvo]

Notice that the adress of that URL contains the words "obsolete products".

Thought that was funny.

[tubbycub]

If they are going to carry on developing new products while discontinuing products that are only a few months old, I am sure people will eventually lost faith in them.

Just when I thought I have the mostly powerful clie on the market, sony had announced that the NZ will be launched soon!

I guess the safest buying decisions will be to get mid-range products, like the T665....seems like it's still going on strong.

[clieconverted]

It's nice that $ony innovates as much as they do. It's nice that they are leading the way in technology for the Palm OS PDA market.

They release products faster than Micro$oft release OS patches. I know some marketing folks are saying sell, sell, sell they will buy, buy, buy, but depending on technology I upgrade about 18 months or so. I like the emerging technologies, but not at $500 or more every 3 months.

They should focus on improving the products and updating the prouduct lines twice a year not every quarter. I see the NX series getting maybe OS updates instead of wholesale replacement with a new NX series for OS6 end of year (maybe).

I was about to buy the NX60 when the guy at CompU$A tells me they are out of stock, won't get any until mid Feb. Why. Because $ony has updated the OS and is shipping new version s with new OS5.1.

The only way $ony will change is if everyone stops buying their Clie. That won't happen so we have to get used to it.

[tubbycub]

I really feel like boycotting them, I hate their marketing strategies, I hate their poor customer support, I hate the way they proprietorize their products like the Wifis and memory stick and selling them at prices that will cost an arm and a leg. They are so damn lucky that they have good designers and engineers. I wasn't even a specific Palm nor PPC fan, the only reason why I bought a Sony was because of the great NXes and now they are going to discontinue it after launching it for barely half a year? Not fair at all!!!!!!

[master_blaster]

i believe your misinformed the nx has been out for 3 months there no new nx model out for awile and the nz a pice of $hit for $800 and will not sell much since its the same specs as the nx (other than the camra and mpeg-4 support) not worth the extra $200 if you have a nx. i'll belive it when i see it!

[Donkeystyle]

So will the current NX not be upgradeable to OS5.1? Why alter the line just for a 0.1 upgrade?

[cbulock]

Why are you all complaining. If you want product lines that are updated every six months, buy a Palm and get the h*ll out of here. I like the fact that there is always fresh technology made by Sony and whenever I want to buy a new Clie, there will be something that was just recently released. Just because they come out with a new model every three to four months doesn't mean you have to upgrade. But it's nice if you want to. By releasing all of these models, it gives Sony the chance to see what works, and what doesn't. By doing so, they are constantly improving their product line. Notice how most of the innovations by Palm recently have just been things that Sony already had for a while. Thats what two product releases a year will get you, catching up to the other guys.

It's odd how many people applaud ZZTechs because that update every week, and at the same time people put Sony down for updating all the time. Do you want Sony to be the Launcher X of handhelds? Bring on the updates Sony!!

[Donkeystyle]

Ease up man. I have no problem with the NZ line just because it is newer than my NX. I do have a problem with a "fixed" NX coming out and leaving us in the cold, terminating our line, support, and compatibility, if that is in fact what is going to happen. And that is just speculation. We all should have a problem with that. Basically it seems that Sony is saying something is wrong with our NXs, but you guys are screwed, we are fixing it for our future consumers who havent paid us yet. We do not care about you if we already have your money. I praise sony for being on the cutting edge, releasing newer and better stuff all the time. I dont resent being outdated, or not long being on the cutting edge, but i do resent being weakly supported for a mere couple of months and then forgotten.

[Sheltowee]

I remember a few weeks ago being very upset because the new memory sticks were not going to work on my NX. Well guess what, they are going to work. We have to be careful of what conclusions we jump to, just based on the rumor mill. They probably will come out with a newer version with only an upgraded OS. That is what they did with the N710 up to the N760. But I doubt that there will be any difference in the hardware.

[cbulock]

On another note, where did this rumor come from that there are going to be new NX's with OS5.1 on them? That doesn't make much sense.

[master_blaster]

yeah like i said im not going to take the word of some cile super nerd

[davy19]

I dont know why people get so upset.

Can I ask, a question, just because the NZ is coming out in a month, does that mean your NR70 or NX 70 is any less better and did not do what it was doinga month ago?

What is really the difference?

Wy are people pisst off for innovation?


If it wasnt for Sony, Palm would be dead IMO...no on else can really afford to compete with Microsoft head on like they are between PS/XBOX, and now handheld devices


It is just like hardware...


a new processor is coming out almsot every 3 months, same goes for video cards....it doesnt mean I upgrade every 3 months...

[Donkeystyle]

I dont care about the NZ coming out, that is not the problem. the new NX is.

[n2ifp]

Originally posted by tubbycub
If they are going to carry on developing new products while discontinuing products that are only a few months old, I am sure people will eventually lost faith in them.

Just when I thought I have the mostly powerful clie on the market, sony had announced that the NZ will be launched soon!

I guess the safest buying decisions will be to get mid-range products, like the T665....seems like it's still going on strong.

You still have the most powerful unit on the market, for at least a month yet. Besides, where is it more powerful? A better camera maybe, a little heftier in weight, but not more powerful.

[n2ifp]

Originally posted by tubbycub
I really feel like boycotting them, I hate their marketing strategies, I hate their poor customer support, I hate the way they proprietorize their products like the Wifis and memory stick and selling them at prices that will cost an arm and a leg. They are so damn lucky that they have good designers and engineers. I wasn't even a specific Palm nor PPC fan, the only reason why I bought a Sony was because of the great NXes and now they are going to discontinue it after launching it for barely half a year? Not fair at all!!!!!!

So, what has changed that makes the NX less useful? It looks like the NZ will do almost as good, but at a heftier weight and price tag! Now if they came out with something totally different, that had some really neat cool stuff in a smaller package, that would be different. The NZ, is basically a repackaged NX, so what's the big deal. In my view, Sony just validated and enhanced our NX's by coming out with the NZ. This means software developers now have more reason than ever to continued coming out with great products for us upper crust Sony Clie owners;)!

I don't know about you guys, but I am still a proud owner of Sony products:D!

[jedix]

Originally posted by n2ifp



I don't know about you guys, but I am still a proud owner of Sony products:D!


You said it man! Me too! I get annoyed sometimes, but I still love all my sony products!

[Lizard]

I'd like to agree with the comment about processors and video cards. I love my NX. I remember when I was younger and my parents bought their first computer.. it was a 386, newer better machines were coming out all the time and I had asked my dad why he didn't wait for a newer better machine, and his response was "there will always be something better just around the corner, if you wait, you will continue to wait, eventually you just have to jump in and buy one" This is true for sony clies as well, there's always going to be innovation, true sony may have some downfalls that need to be improved, but innovation is the driving force behind economy. You can't tell a company to stop making new products just because it makes you feel like your current device stinks. Besides, I found it very interesting that the new NZ has features that a lot of people complained about on the threads before the crash. People wanted Bluetooth, it has bluetooth, people wanted a better camera, it has a better camera.. no complaints from me, my NX is still just as good as it was the day I got it. :) This from a former Visor Prism owner who found the enitre line discontinued and no more support for springboard modules.. :)

[tubbycub]

I think there are some misinterpretions of what is being discussed here. Technology advancements are cool, we all need that in order to make our lives easier. We are not exactly b*tching about the launch of new products but it's the discontinuation of a very recently launched product. I guess this is what the starter of this thread meant.

New threads raving about the drop in prices to about $400 are already been created by others who still haven't own the NX yet.
Yes, no doubt that I love my NX too but I really feel kinda ripped off as I have just bought the machine for barely a month at an equivalent of US$599. Even more so for the launching of the upgraded/fixed NX and abandoning the existing owners of the current NXes. I guess Sony, after discontinuing the current NXes will not even be bothered to provide further support. Aren't Sony going to compensate us for this "flaw" like what Toshiba did for the recent battery flaw in e740 by giving a one-to-one exchange? I doubt so....

I don't know how you guys feel but I certainly feel like a sucker....wait till you see the smirks and hear the mocking comments from owners of the fixed NX. :(

[cbulock]

Originally posted by tubbycub
Aren't Sony going to compensate us for this "flaw" like what Toshiba did for the recent battery flaw in e740 by giving a one-to-one exchange? I doubt so....

I don't know how you guys feel but I certainly feel like a sucker....wait till you see the smirks and hear the mocking comments from owners of the fixed NX. :(

Maybe I'm missing something, but what kind of flaw does the NX have. I mean, I know it's not the perfect machine, but is there some sort of defect to it? What do you want Sony to fix?

[CrakerZ]

I believe one flaw is the issue with the connector specs (the KB-11 incompatability issue). Personally, I am upset about that one flaw, but not overly so. Having worked for companies manufacturing bleeding edge technology, I can say that it happens. And I believe that Sony should offer a recall or repair to fix the issue. But if they come out with a new model with an upgraded feature, being upset is like telling your car dealer you want him to exchange your car because they came out with a model with different features. Ridiculous.

[CosmicBlend]

Originally posted by cbulock


Maybe I'm missing something, but what kind of flaw does the NX have. I mean, I know it's not the perfect machine, but is there some sort of defect to it? What do you want Sony to fix?

I think he is refering to the rumor about another line of NX's with OS 5.1.

[Donkeystyle]

Thank you tubbycub! finally a response from someone who knows what this thread is about! This thread IS about the rumor that another line of NX's are coming out and discontinuing ours. NOT THE NZ. My problem is I want a keyboard and if the rumors pan out, the current NX may not get one. That is not an unreasonable request. One should be able to buy a PDA these days and expect the release of a compatible keyboard.

[Mr Sheen]

Originally posted by cbulock

It's odd how many people applaud ZZTechs because that update every week, and at the same time people put Sony down for updating all the time. Do you want Sony to be the Launcher X of handhelds? Bring on the updates Sony!!

You missed one BIG point there :rolleyes: ZZTechs asks for 12$ for LIFE. You do not have to take a mortgage every 6 months or so to stay at the edge!

Cheers,

Sheen
:cool:

[mashoutposse]

I guess the safest buying decisions will be to get mid-range products, like the T665....seems like it's still going on strong.

Wait a second.

Hold the phone.

Are you saying that you are willing to downgrade to a much less capable unit simply because Sony hasn't been as quick to update that particular model line? No wonder Palm could sell a PDA like the m505/515 for the same price (and even a bit more than) the T615C/N760C and still stay afloat. They must love people like you -- people who actually REWARD (!!!) the laziest companies with their hard earned money... BECAUSE of that very laziness!

Speechless.

[Lizard]

So if the topic of this thread is the rumor about 5.1 on a new NX.. then can anyone put truth to this rumor?

[cbulock]

I think anyone who thinks this rumor is true should read this (http://www.palminfocenter.com/view_Story.asp?ID=4777). It's an interview with a guy from PalmSource about OS5. The part that explains the difference between OS5 and OS5.1 should give a hint as to why this rumor is false. There may be some bug fixes in a new version of a NX, it might be running OS5.2, but not 5.1.

[TheSpies]

That was the reason i started this thread: to find out if anyone had any solid information.

If a re-launch of the NX happens with a new connector and 5.2 (not 5.1 im not sure where that came in at) where will that leave current NX owners? I personally will not be very happy about it, not because i feel this is a case of a NEW device coming out that is better than the one i own but because i believe it would be a bug-fixed version of the one i own. It will help some if we get at the least a patch to 5.2 . I do not care about getting Jot that much but i would like all the fixes that were done to OS5. Im not as concerned about the connector but im sure others are. Im just worried that we early adopters will be forgotten.

[GSC3D]

Does anyone think this is all a lil bit of paranoia?

I mean... im not saying its not being discontinued... but is this whole thread based on that one quote from expansys? or is there more to this theory?

I for one feel like I knew what I was buying to begin with. I, like many of you, did my research and knew what I was buying... I knew that there could be a long wait for things like compatible keyboards, etc. I knew that the last palm device I had was extremely lacking in accessories I wanted too.

How long would you expect it to be before a new model came out and this one was pushed aside? Part of my reason for buying at best buy, is that I got the nifty 2 year piece of paper so if/when it breaks i can trade up to the next model. Id consider it unusual to use the same device for much longer than a year anyway.

The way I see it, even if its discontinued tomorrow and a new "NX" is on the market the only problem I will have is gadget-envy of the people I know who get it. A third party will probably make whatever accessories I absolutely need, the software is out there for me to buy... I just wont have that extra RAM or whatever they add. (although bluetooth would be nice)

Know what I mean?

Untill I see hard proof that the NX has been discontinued... I dont think Ill be bothered much by the idea.

Is there any proof? or did some guy at Expansys mis-speak?