Fontsmoother 2.10 Issues

[mook82]

My fonts in fontsmoother 2.10 aren't displaying correctly in my home screen where I select applications. It displays correctly when I don't highlight it but when I go and highlight the application, it is screwed up. Are there special settings I need to enable or is it just a bug? Do I need to use special fonts? I am using a palm centro.

[_Em]

You probably need to toggle "eBook Mode" on the "More" screen. As you haven't said what kind of display issues you have, this is the only thing I can think of to suggest, other than playing around with tweaking the other settings or using a different font.

[scottl]

It can be tough to find the right font to keep everything happy. Some fonts corrupt the output if a certain row height or character width is expected. I look at the Task and Calender apps. The check boxes and icons such as repeating events and alarms get chopped off with many smaller fonts. One of the things that bugs me most is how the time in the Status Bar becomes ugly or even unreadable. If only it could be controlled independently... I wish PalmOS was a bit more friendly toward fonts outside of its included "collection". In the end, the positives outweigh the negatives for me and I use FontSmoother in most of my apps :)

[mook82]

What are some fonts that work perfectly in the home screen or just in general?

[_Em]

I use Lucida Sans Unicode FS 13pt; in the past I've used Seagull Md BT ib FS 12pt and Utopia 16 aa italbold ker.

[pruss]

Highlighting doesn't work in some apps. On Treos it doesn't work in the launcher.

[lwestfall]

Any workaround, Alex? Any idea how hard this will be for you to fix and when you might have a new version/release where FontSmoother will work in the Treo/Centro launcher? I bought this for a T3 but now I've upgraded to a Centro and really want to make it work with FS since it's so great overall! Thanks! --Lincoln :)

[JordanP]

Aha! So that's why i can't read half my stuff..

Just FYI it's not just the launcher.. apps that use the standard theme format, such as Pocket Quicken and various other 'selectors' suffer from the same problem :(

[vovka1965]

Aha! So that's why i can't read half my stuff..

Just FYI it's not just the launcher.. apps that use the standard theme format, such as Pocket Quicken and various other 'selectors' suffer from the same problem :(
Highlighting does not work in Plucker!

[Another Michael]

Highlighting does not work in Plucker!

Maybe your plucker is too old ? Try the snapshot (http://www.plkr.org/developers/snapshots)

[vovka1965]

Maybe your plucker is too old ? Try the snapshot (http://www.plkr.org/developers/snapshots)
I did. That is the first version of plucker I installed.

[pruss]

Aha! So that's why i can't read half my stuff..

Just FYI it's not just the launcher.. apps that use the standard theme format, such as Pocket Quicken and various other 'selectors' suffer from the same problem :(

You can try varying the theme. It will look better in some than in others.

[pruss]

Relevant excerpt from manual:

Smart Highlight (under "More")

This option can be controlled individually for each application, or for all the
ones that rely on default settings, by using the "More" panel.

FontSmoother compensates for highlighting methods designed to highlight
non-smooth texts. In rare circumstances (not yet actually observed) this may have an unfortunate side-effect in some application, such as
changing the color of an element whose color should not change. Disabling Smart Highlight will fix this. If you find any application that forces
you to disable Smart Highlight, please contact the author. The author is aware that highlighting
is imperfect. Unfortunately, many applications do highlighting in a way that is incompatible
with smooth fonts, even with FontSmoother's Smart Highlight mode. That is a price to be paid for
smooth fonts. The same problem would occur under PalmOS 6 with smooth font support with these
applications, unless they were updated.

Some color schemes are more susceptible to this than others
(free software like Colorize and Khroma can change color schemes).
Specifically, color schemes that are all white, gray and black are not recommended. Color
schemes where the highlighted foreground color is the same as the unhighlighted foreground color
are likely to yield good results, particularly with light colored (e.g., yellow) highlighting.

[pruss]

Question: Does it work in the Prefs on Treos? And could someone send me a png or bmp of the launcher in Utopia 16 on the Centro/Treo using the standard blue color scheme? (arpruss at gmail dot com) And if anyone is interested in helping by running test versions, please contact me.

[pruss]

It can be tough to find the right font to keep everything happy. Some fonts corrupt the output if a certain row height or character width is expected. I look at the Task and Calender apps. The check boxes and icons such as repeating events and alarms get chopped off with many smaller fonts. One of the things that bugs me most is how the time in the Status Bar becomes ugly or even unreadable.

Which status bar is this?

[JordanP]

You can try varying the theme. It will look better in some than in others.

Yep your right.. I started using SkinUI with a theme called "Gant_" (From PalmRevolt), and Pocket Quicken , Preference and all the others look fine.. EXCEPT the main launcher window... which is Ok for me since i use HiLauncher to launch most of my apps anyway now heh.

[JKib]

Question: Does it work in the Prefs on Treos? And could someone send me a png or bmp of the launcher in Utopia 16 on the Centro/Treo using the standard blue color scheme? (arpruss at gmail dot com) And if anyone is interested in helping by running test versions, please contact me.

Email sent. Let me know if there's anything else I can do. Treo 700P.

[scottl]

Which status bar is this?This is odd, but I wasn't able to create any totally corrupt clocks last night! I changed to a couple different DIA and Status Bars with myKbd and changed fonts in FontSmoother, but the clock was always readable - though in various sizes, fonts, and horizontal placements. I bet it's something to do with the recently discussed settings (Smart Highlight, eBook Mode, etc). I'll try to break it again and report back if I do. I also went from about 4 or 5 pages of fonts in the FS Font selection to 8 fonts I know I want.

[pruss]

By the way, if someone has a Treo for sale for a reasonable price that exhibits the Launcher problem (even one with broken telephone functionality, cracked LCD, etc., as long as the Launcher works), I'll be interested in buying it to try to figure this out.

[italiangspot]

i have problems when highlighting on the sms thread.. when u highlight the text gets grainy... i noticed if i make the font at the darkest setting in fontsmoother it helps a little but this is a known issue with some fonts with font smoother... i wish there was a nice collection of fonts that worked nicely with the palm.. its like trial and error

[pruss]

i have problems when highlighting on the sms thread.. when u highlight the text gets grainy... i noticed if i make the font at the darkest setting in fontsmoother it helps a little but this is a known issue with some fonts with font smoother... i wish there was a nice collection of fonts that worked nicely with the palm.. its like trial and error

Yes, this is being fixed right now (highlighted non-black text will probably still be fuzzy).

[pruss]

The test versions will be periodically updated at:
http://pruss.homeip.net/FontSmoother.prc

When reporting things, please say which version number you were using (e.g., 2.11a). Make sure you do a full backup before trying.

[pruss]

I posted version 2.11d, which fixes a lot of the Treo highlighting problems.

[vovka1965]

I posted version 2.11d, which fixes a lot of the Treo highlighting problems.
Hey, It fixes highlighting problems on TX as well!
So far so good Alex!

[pruss]

There were some highlighting problems on the TX?

[vovka1965]

There were some highlighting problems on the TX?
Yes,
I had problems in Ultrasoft Money and in Plucker

[Shrink]

I posted version 2.11d, which fixes a lot of the Treo highlighting problems.
Where is it posted? I went to the site but it still lists 2.10.
Thanks
alan

[_Em]

See post #22 (http://www.1src.com/forums/showpost.php?p=1031504&postcount=22) above.

[scottl]

Both 2.11a and d are working great on my TX. Again, it may because I purged all fonts that caused corruption of the Time on the status bar when used with FontSmoother, but every font I've tried over the past couple days has had no corruption. I'll have to check Calender though - I noticed in the past that the currently highlighted day (when picking a date) was often corrupt under some fonts.

[Shrink]

See post #22 (http://www.1src.com/forums/showpost.php?p=1031504&postcount=22) above.
Thanks Em
alan

[italiangspot]

2.11d version

wow so much better.. thank you !

that was a long awaited update !

[pruss]

I just posted 2.19a. It now recognizes fonts in \PALM\Programs\FontSmoother on a card (also \PALM\Launcher, but that's slower).

[FerdFerd]

Should we assume that \Palm\Programs\FontSmoother is were fonts could be kept?

[pruss]

Should we assume that \Palm\Programs\FontSmoother is were fonts could be kept?

Yes. (I am not sure about your question, since I think I said that in my post. Are you just wondering about the case of the filename? On FAT-formatted cards, filenames are case insensitive.)

[FerdFerd]

My mistake - yes you did say so in your post - I read right through it. Sorry to introduce unnecessary confusion.

[acousticbiker]

I just posted 2.19a. It now recognizes fonts in \PALM\Programs\FontSmoother on a card (also \PALM\Launcher, but that's slower).

Thanks, Alex. Where is 2.19a posted? Both the ZLThemes website and your link on page 2 of this thread link to 2.10.

[italiangspot]

check out post 22 for the latest beta releases

everyone should post up there fonts so we can all share

[acousticbiker]

OK, got 2.19a...I forgot to disable FS first on my previous attempt.

[goonie]

Alex, I had a problem accessing the menus in FS 2.19a. If I hit the "menu" icon, the menu quickly flashes on, then off, and is inaccessible.

[FerdFerd]

Menus work fine for me in 2.19a.

[italiangspot]

I have the same version as u and am not having the menu issue... has to be something specific to your phone... try deleting then reinstalling

[goonie]

I tried deleting and re-installing, and I'm still having the menus problem. I didn't delete any of the prefs or the registration file, maybe that's where the problem lies. The program itself is working fine, but I'm still having this problem! Something clearly is conflicting with this, not sure what it is...

[pruss]

I tried deleting and re-installing, and I'm still having the menus problem. I didn't delete any of the prefs or the registration file, maybe that's where the problem lies. The program itself is working fine, but I'm still having this problem! Something clearly is conflicting with this, not sure what it is...

Try doing a warm reset (or, better, CleanStart's "Nice warm reset") and then running FontSmoother.

You can diagnose conflicts by using CleanStart.

[goonie]

Try doing a warm reset (or, better, CleanStart's "Nice warm reset") and then running FontSmoother.

You can diagnose conflicts by using CleanStart.

Pruss, thanks for the suggestions-- your CleanStart diagnose mode helped me figure it out. (That's a great program by the way, as are ALL the ones your provide so generously to the Palm community). So it pains me to tell you it's one of YOUR programs creating the problem! Disabling CenterMenu makes the menu action in FontSmoother work correctly on my setup. I've had both programs running concurrently for some time with no ill effect; something about your most recent revisions to FontSmoother has somehow changed things.

[Ohappydaye]

When I click on the link for the in process beta, I get an error. Anyone else having trouble...or is it my computer, maybe?

Thanks Pruss, I look forward to trying this out...as I'm now a Treo user myself. :D

[FerdFerd]

When I click on the link for the in process beta, I get an error. Anyone else having trouble...or is it my computer, maybe?I have trouble also - on a Mac. Try to right click and then save the link - that worked for me. (Firefox is my browser.)

[Ohappydaye]

I have trouble also - on a Mac. Try to right click and then save the link - that worked for me. (Firefox is my browser.)

I use both a Mac and Fire Fox, I'll give that a try. Thanks!

Edit: It worked!! Thanks so much FerdFerd!!!

[pruss]

Pruss, thanks for the suggestions-- your CleanStart diagnose mode helped me figure it out. (That's a great program by the way, as are ALL the ones your provide so generously to the Palm community). So it pains me to tell you it's one of YOUR programs creating the problem! Disabling CenterMenu makes the menu action in FontSmoother work correctly on my setup. I've had both programs running concurrently for some time with no ill effect; something about your most recent revisions to FontSmoother has somehow changed things.

Is this CenterMenu's 5-way force option? Just disable that for FontSmoother.

[scottl]

I guess I'm having a senior moment... What does "Force One Handed" do anyway? I've toggled it on a couple apps and don't see much difference other than some actions are highlighted.

[goonie]

Is this CenterMenu's 5-way force option? Just disable that for FontSmoother.

That seemed to solve the problem! Thanks so much, Alex.