real, not a rumor!

[Unregistered]

I sorry but I don't register.
the new clie spec are like this
300 mhz intel PXA255 (the PXA250 is no longer sold)
built in WI-FI
lighted keyboard
320x320 transreflective screen (like the ppc's and the new palms)
VGA cmos (Complementary metal oxide semiconductor) camera (just like the nx70v) 400,000 pixels
Palm OS 5.2, Application version 4.52.1s (updated API icons fast menu system, better keyboard implemation
removeable info battery (like the NZ90)
Yamaha sound chip (PCM) like all clies
full MS pro support
TG size and form factor (slightly bigger for removeable battery)
mp3 and atrac suppport
newer movie mode (two sizes, 160x112 and 320x240) better motion playback (support MS pro i/o speeds)
camera in the hinge where the hard cover goes (think TG)
will replace nz90 and the current TG (considered the low end model compared to the new highend model)
picsel viewer
new web browser (in talks with opera, proxyless)
a/v cradle with input and output (thats why there is a new movie mode and the crdle is like the nz90)
two seperate hard shells, one standered magnesium and one with a small window to see the screen (like a treo)
lets just say a friend told me
P.S., sony will not at this moment make a ppc handheld, sony CEO likes the palm os and so do many japanese, read the article from palminfocenter or brighthand interview, plus sony doesn't like the MS way of business, palm is more flexable, as many can tell from sony's constent modifations of the OS to suit the handheld, MS does not allow for that, which is the reason so many ppc's have the same specs just different, or no wireless opitions.

I have no reason to lie, but every reason to stay private

[kdn102]

Originally posted by Unregistered
...320x320 transreflective screen (like the ppc's and the new palms) ...

I would be bummed out if they took away VG.


I have no reason to lie, but every reason to stay private

I'm sure you do need to stay private!

Any idea about RAM?

[Marudine]

O good .. another different configuration. Now I think we are more and more confusing. Nevermind, let's wait adn see.

[Importluva]

I dunno, a replacement for the TG already...I think not. It is a very UNwise financial decision for sony. They have to make up for all of their sunk costs that they spent on the R&D for the thing-I don't think that they would discontinue it so soon.

[Marudine]

Agreed with Importluva, is difficult to understand how SONY can make the new clie to replace its 2-3 months old products. Well, I believe the annoucement for the new clie is getting very near ...

[Unregistered]

the memory is like this:
64MB Ram
16MB rom (NAND flash rom)
sony is making this model to show palm they're still in the game and because the lastest clies are still not on par with the low end ppc's plus sony was surprised by palm tung c and zire 71, palm is trying yo edge them out in multimedia I tell you all about the new high end model when I get more information, but let me just say the NZ90 was 799.99 and sony won't make that mistake again (I enjoy my NZ90 very much, but didn't pay that price for it ;>)

[KongK]

Sony took away VG for the NZ90 replacement? Guess I'll keep my NX for a bit longer ...

BTW, I don't think Sony will go the PPC path anytime soon, ever since MS announces the xbox which is a direct competitor with Sony's PS2.

[cbulock]

Originally posted by Unregistered
Yamaha sound chip (PCM) like all clies

Do OS5 Clie's still have the Yamaha sound chip? I thought they were using something different.

But, a browser based on Opera, I can only dream of that day!

[ksjenkins]

And the Rumor mill cranks out more!!! We all know Sony is about to release a new model. I've read about 6 new Clie's in the last two days all sound some-what reasonable, but.... I'll wait for the real deal.... Ready..... let the Rumors fly!!!

:D

[n2ifp]

What do you mean Sony won't make that mistake again? Too high priced, too big, or just too much?

[n2ifp]

:D

[stronggeek]

I bet the unregustered is really registered. :)

Otherwise at least according to this rumor with the built in wi-fi I guess sony thinks we don't need the cff slot now.

I want built in wifi and the cf slot...oh and yes, I want it all and with vg as well please.

Thank you

[Ddeath]

VG is the way to go, including WIFI. I'm gonna scream if they release another model without. Been sitting out on those clamshell models because they do not appeal to me. Hope they include a high capacity battery as well like the Tungsten C.

[JackAxe]

Originally posted by cbulock


Do OS5 Clie's still have the Yamaha sound chip? I thought they were using something different.

They use the XScale.

<]=)

[wilfredt]

Originally posted by Unregistered
320x320 transreflective screen (like the ppc's and the new palms)
...
VGA cmos (Complementary metal oxide semiconductor) camera (just like the nx70v) 400,000 pixels
...
will replace nz90 and the current TG (considered the low end model compared to the new highend model)


Replace TG & NZ?? How can a new Clie without VG and only 400k pixels to replace NZ??

[neogin]

please please ..

don't give us false information about new clie ..

we are all waiting for the new powerful device (new NX ?) ..

by the way, i think sony cut the price of NX60 and NX70 because of Zire71 and Tungsten C ..

that is true .. i can bet about it ..

[Joel]

Probably right in all three, Larry. :D

[aaronchow]

Agreed, but let's just hope that CliePlanet's rumor is true though... T-form factor, BlueTooth and WiFi built-in with HiRes+ screen?? Did I dream too much? :confused:

[Marudine]

This go in line with the rumour by "Sony Employee", mentioning about the T form factor with integrated Wifi and BT / dual MS slots.

As for me, I'm more in favour of clamshell design (i.e. integrated key pad). Hope that the speculated NX replacement can be made possible soon.

[fjl307]

Originally posted by Unregistered
320x320 transreflective screen (like the ppc's and the new palms)


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This is the only reason I don't believe this rumor! PPC's don't have 320x320 screens, they have 320x240

[nickster87]

I don't think he or she meant that the new Sony's would have resolutions like PPC, but that it would have the tranflective screen like the new PPCs do.

[benixau]

hmmm, i am sorry - i think sony will wait a bit longer for the NZ and TG. The NX doesn't really need a refresh except for a better camera on the same swivel system and a built-in wireless option (BT and/or WiFi). They don't need the faster processor. They do need, desperately more RAM though.

[Unregistered]

the screen is like the ppc because of the transreflective screen, not the res. and the yamaha chip is for sound, which is for in the new models, palm does not use this chip, which is why the sega games don't play with sound on clie models, the sound coding in set up for palm's sound set up. VG is not on the new model, just the ability to write on the screen like the TG. sony is not happy about the CF card slot or how drivers were writen for it so new models probably won't have one, plus the built in wi-fi is to compete with the tung c and wi-fi ppc's.

[Marudine]

The new clie topic is getting more and more interesting .. as well as more and more unbelievable.

[archangel]

I wish Sony would announce the new handheld soon so all these rumors would stop. What have we had now, 5 different versions of the new Clie? Enough already.

[cbulock]

Originally posted by Unregistered
the screen is like the ppc because of the transreflective screen, not the res. and the yamaha chip is for sound, which is for in the new models, palm does not use this chip, which is why the sega games don't play with sound on clie models, the sound coding in set up for palm's sound set up. VG is not on the new model, just the ability to write on the screen like the TG. sony is not happy about the CF card slot or how drivers were writen for it so new models probably won't have one, plus the built in wi-fi is to compete with the tung c and wi-fi ppc's.

This right here tells me that the rumor is untrue. The sound on the Clies not working has nothing to do with what kind of sound chip is in the Clies. I'm almost certain that the OS5 Clies don't have the Yamaha sound chip for one thing. The reason it doesn't work is because Sony doesn't support the OS5 sound librarys. And all of the recent Clies have transreflective screens, so thats nothing new either.

[n2ifp]

All the more reason to have users registered to post.

[abosco]

All the more reason to have users registered to post.


Not a bad idea, but quite a paradox, if you ask me. If you force people to register to post, you won't have AUTHENTIC rumors anymore. I guarantee you one out of these five rumors are in fact totally correct. Remember when the NZ90 rumors were out? Two rumors... one was that there was going to be an OS 5 version of the NR70v with a better camera, 200 MHz X-Scale, and a CF slot that could not be used for memory cards. The other was that there would be an upgraded T665c with OS 5 and virtual graffiti. Obviously, we know which one panned out.

Well anyway, I don't think it's a bad idea to force people to register to post... they can always submit an anonymous email to the editors to get the rumors out on the street.

[n2ifp]

Which one of the 5 rumors is the correct one :D??

[n2ifp]

Will the real rumor monger please stand up:)!

[cliejunkie]

This sounds about right IMHO The 300mhz is what tipped me off. Sounds closer to what I heard a month ago. Although I heard 32mb's at the time, this was before the C came out. Which is possibly why Sony hasen't announced anything - to modify their design to 64megs. Sony is heavily competitive. I also heard a 1mp camera too. I can see the integration of their new thin screen technology... hence the delay. I was hoping there would be an announcement this week... guess not.

Didn't hear about the wifi - but rather BT instead. Sony's japan site is heavily promoting BT (computers, cameras, Camcorders, clie's, sonyerricson phones) all talking to each other. Sony believes in product integration - it helps retain customer loyalty.

BTW- doubt any PPC rumors you've heard. Sony has recently invested heavily in Palmsource and enjoys the input they can have in development.

[ppc]

You know what, I really don't think this rush for more RAM is really a big deal.

I would say that it's better to have more memory on cards than in RAM. Even Sony devices need to be hard reset from time to time (my Palm Vx needed to be quite often).

Storing stuff on a card is simpler to back up using a card reader and doesn't get lost if you do have to hard reset.

On my Axim I run nearly all my apps from either my SD card or the ROM storage that Dell kindly gave us. I use a 1GB CF card for movies and music.

If the NX60 had had the CF driver available at the time I would have been very tempted to go that route since I love everything about the NX apart from the expansion options.

I assume that with the introduction of integrated 802.11b, the CF slot will not be a feature on new models.

Like all you guys, I'm looking forward to seeing what the new Sony models will be. Currently there is not a PDA on the market that I would change my Axim for. The closest would be the Toshiba e750. Like I say, SD or CF memory is more sensible to me than more internal RAM.

[purpleice]

Originally posted by Unregistered
I sorry but I don't register.
the new clie spec are like this
300 mhz intel PXA255 (the PXA250 is no longer sold)
built in WI-FI
lighted keyboard
320x320 transreflective screen (like the ppc's and the new palms)
VGA cmos (Complementary metal oxide semiconductor) camera (just like the nx70v) 400,000 pixels
Palm OS 5.2, Application version 4.52.1s (updated API icons fast menu system, better keyboard implemation
removeable infor battery (like the NZ90)
Yamaha sound chip (PCM) like all clies
full MS pro support
TG size and forrm factor (slightly bigger forr removeable battery)
mp3 and atrac suppport
newer movie mode (two sizes, 160x112 and 320x240) better motion playback (support MS pro i/o speeds)
camera in the hinge where the hard cover goes (think TG)
will replace nz90 and the current TG (considered the low end model compared to the new highend model)
picsel viewer
new web browser (in talks with opera, proxyless)
a/v cradle with input and output (thats why there is a new movie mode and the crdle is like the nz90)
two seperate hard shells, one standered magnesium and one with a small window to see the screen (like a treo)
lets just say a friend told me
P.S., sony will not at this moment make a ppc handheld, sony CEO likes the palm os and so do many japanese, read the article from palminforcenter or brighthand interview, plus sony doesn't like the MS way of business, palm is more flexable, as many can tell from sony's constent modifations of the OS to suit the handheld, MS does not allow forr that, which is the reason so many ppc's have the same specs just different, or no wireless opitions.

I have no reason to lie, but every reason to stay private


This all sounds grate -will it have a remote and any chance for the VG- it just got so good... I could write rally quick, and not neat and usually never was in correct.. It sounds like you have pull .. Please put it in .. I've had the last 3n nr and nx and I really like them and would have bought the nz but it was to bulky where the camera is.. if it was even, it would have fit better.. that is where you carry it... Please, I've been with out one since I heard of the nz and sold my nz, which I did love....
=^ ^=
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[IB Michael]

Will the REAL liar please step forward......!

[Bionic Antboy]

Originally posted by Unregistered
...sony is making this model to show palm they're still in the game and because the lastest clies are still not on par with the low end ppc's plus sony was surprised by palm tung c and zire 71, palm is trying yo edge them out in multimedia ...

One question, if Sony was really worried about Palm "edging" them out on the multimedia front, would they really get rid of the 320x480 screen?&nbsp; Can't see the logic in that one.&nbsp; :)

[aussie_nx70v]

Originally posted by Importluva
I dunno, a replacement for the TG already...I think not. It is a very UNwise financial decision for sony. They have to make up for all of their sunk costs that they spent on the R&D for the thing-I don't think that they would discontinue it so soon.

heard of the nx???

sony has a reputation of releasing new clie's as often as you change undies.....

[Shrink]

Originally posted by aussie_nx70v


sony has a reputation of releasing new clie's as often as you change undies.....
Change undies? Really? You're supposed to change them?:confused:
alan

[EvilErnie]

Originally posted by Shrink

Change undies? Really? You're supposed to change them?:confused:
alan

At least you have a pair... After paying for my Clie, its commando all the way for me! :D

[riversen]

I am going to be very, very disappointed if the resolution on the screen is only 320x320. I was waiting for the 320X480. All the other spec's are wonderful, but the 320X320 is going to really be a bummer and wont' cause me to switch to Sony anytime soon. If it is close to the Tungsten C price, then their keyboard is more appealing to me for my fat fingers.

Again, I hope the screen size is not true, but I am afraid this person is probably closer to the truth because it does help cut costs to get a bigger margin. All, I have to say is.... BUMMER!

[nz007]

yadi yadi yada..............

[keesercc]

patiently waiting.

[lancelot]

when does a pda become NOT a pda?

if sony et.al. are going this far, i may as well get this!!!!!!,,,,,, http://www.vaio.sony.co.jp/Products/PCG-U101/

this is the size of two clies, with a full windows OS

[OcellNuri]

That's a slick unit. :D

[Jeff146]

Originally posted by lancelot
when does a pda become NOT a pda?

if sony et.al. are going this far, i may as well get this!!!!!!,,,,,, http://www.vaio.sony.co.jp/Products/PCG-U101/

this is the size of two clies, with a full windows OS

Wow that is a very nice unit!!!
What are the specs of that unit?

[lancelot]

Originally posted by Jeff146


Wow that is a very nice unit!!!
What are the specs of that unit?

dynamism sells units you can only get overseas. there's the U101 and the U3.

http://www.dynamism.com/u101/index.shtml

[riversen]

http://www.brighthand.com/article/TapWave_Releasing_Gaming_Handheld

Well, it might prove to be the PDA that everyone wants... but not till the end of the year. Guess what? ... what psyche job that has been done on us. I guess I should now ask my wife for the new Tungsten C for my birthday at the end of this week. Bye-bye to all of my Sony friends. Hey, if anyone from Sony happens to read this... timing is everything. You have lost a customer.

[jthompson]

Altogether now: VG! VG! VG! VG!

[n2ifp]

Originally posted by lancelot


dynamism sells units you can only get overseas. there's the U101 and the U3.

http://www.dynamism.com/u101/index.shtml

That I like :)!

[TechnoCat]

Originally posted by ppc
You know what, I really don't think this rush for more RAM is really a big deal.

I would say that it's better to have more memory on cards than in RAM. Even Sony devices need to be hard reset from time to time (my Palm Vx needed to be quite often).
For you, perhaps. For me... I want to use the cards like CD-ROMs. Maybe put MP3s on one, a movie on another, perhaps a largish internet suite on a third, and swap in and out for the task without having to compromise access to my base data and programs, such as my mail messages, shopper, DateBook5, etc.

That means I want either 32MB+, so I can have a decent amount of on-system storage (remember that most MS cards were small until recently anyhow), or two slots. It's probably a lot cheaper for them to give me the extra RAM than the extra slot.

[TheZodiac]

I highly doubt Sony will move away from the VG screen.... and I also dout and agree they wont put out a PPC HH. They expressed interest in buying either Symbian or Palm some months back according to geek.com - Now thats interesting news. You wont see a CF slot again unless they make some proprietary deivce again for it - like a GPS.

Clams seem fragile. I think the TG design is here to stay - and nothing really "replaces" another model - simply put - high end ones come out. I still think the NX/V is the best model out there from Sony - middle of the road and very fast. What the need to do is integrate WiFi is they seriosly want to compete with T|C - a camera just sint goign to do it - now that a $299 Zire71 exists. (slap!) MS can take bluetooth - so no reason to integrate that - bad mistake on the NZ.

Im waiting for OS6 devices to sample and ship. OS5 dosnt supprt the GSM stack (since last note)

I love windows - ON THE DESKTOP.... but Palm seems to be the superior OS in the handheld game. Not bloated like a fat goat.

[icarus]

Originally posted by Marudine
O good .. another different configuration. Now I think we are more and more confusing. Nevermind, let's wait adn see.

Just feel the same.
Let's cross the fingers and hope for the VG version, as "spec" seen previously.

[icarus]

Originally posted by Ddeath
VG is the way to go, including WIFI. I'm gonna scream if they release another model without. Been sitting out on those clamshell models because they do not appeal to me. Hope they include a high capacity battery as well like the Tungsten C.

Ooh. And I did even buy a Palm m105 as an interim solution. Still waiting for the VG non-clamshell high-res+.

[icarus]

Originally posted by aaronchow
Agreed, but let's just hope that CliePlanet's rumor is true though... T-form factor, BlueTooth and WiFi built-in with HiRes+ screen?? Did I dream too much? :confused:

Me too. PLEASE, Full 320x480.

[Vidge]

Originally posted by TechnoCat


That means I want either 32MB+, so I can have a decent amount of on-system storage (remember that most MS cards were small until recently anyhow), or two slots. It's probably a lot cheaper for them to give me the extra RAM than the extra slot.

I totally agree! Although I have moved some of my programs to Flash, I still don't have enough room in my 16meg to carry all of my programs.

Remember, too, that the programs are getting larger and larger as the need to support different models emerges. For example, Datebk5 is now 660K. I don't just want more memory, I need it!