TG50 and T68i

[juehoe]

I cannot get working together my TG50 and the T68i...

Both devices "see" each other but the connection test in the prefs, SMS etc does not work ("no connection possible").

Kind regards from Switzerland
-Juerg Hoelzle-

[juehoe]

It is/was so easy -> wrong driver...

To solve the problem, I deleted all my BT connections and started from new. And so I got the "correct" error message about the driver.

The driver I downloaded some weeks ago was for the T68; meanwhile Palm has a driver for the T68i.

BT is not always easy and straitforwarded to understand. But meanwhile I can send SMS and Hotsyc with my Mac.

-Jürg-

[xenna]

Can you send multi-part sms messages to yourself (larger than 160 characters)?

I can't unfortunately...

X.

[graph101]

juehoe, please post your experience with both devices. im planning to get both soon. you should try funsms with it since it supports bt. do you have a dongle?

[juehoe]

Originally posted by xenna
Can you send multi-part sms messages to yourself (larger than 160 characters)?

I can't unfortunately...

X.

No either with the SMS or funSMS application. For me this is not so important because I send only "short" messages.

-Juerg-

[juehoe]

Originally posted by graph101
juehoe, please post your experience with both devices. im planning to get both soon. you should try funsms with it since it supports bt. do you have a dongle?

I chosen both devices because of the BT capabilities.

T68i:
This is/was the only phone which supports iSync. Also in most test it is used as the BT phone!
I am (and my friends with Nokia) are impressed of this phone. But I do not use all its features.

TG50:
I like the NX series (big screen) but the NX60 is not availbla in Switzerland I do not want to pay for thing that I do not want. A NX70 with BT is 40% more expensive than the TG50.
The other candidate was the Tungsten T but I do not like its design.
funSMS works fine on the TG50.

For my mac I use a dongle from Mitsumi.

Conclusion:
I like the TG50, even it seems not possible to dial directly as with the Tungsten T.

-Juerg-

[juehoe]

The standard application on Tungsten T supports dialing from the address book.

I have checked the TG50 manual but found no entry how to dial with the T68i.

-Juerg-

[Ni+Mh]

Originally posted by juehoe
It is/was so easy -> wrong driver...

To solve the problem, I deleted all my BT connections and started from new. And so I got the "correct" error message about the driver.

The driver I downloaded some weeks ago was for the T68; meanwhile Palm has a driver for the T68i.

BT is not always easy and straitforwarded to understand. But meanwhile I can send SMS and Hotsyc with my Mac.

-Jürg-

That's correcto :rolleyes: Just download the T68i driver from www.palm.com.If the in built SMS software doesn't work,try using FunSMS3

[xenna]

Originally posted by juehoe
The standard application on Tungsten T supports dialing from the address book.

I have checked the TG50 manual but found no entry how to dial with the T68i.

-Juerg-

According to this thread it is possible:

http://www.cliesource.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=7802&highlight=dial+t68i

X.

[jk600]

Originally posted by xenna
Can you send multi-part sms messages to yourself (larger than 160 characters)?


I have SMS v4.5 on my NZ90. It automatically sends multi-part messages to my T68ie through BT.

If you have the same SMS version, check in menu | options | preferences | details. There is a drop-down box for "Warn Over".

Also, I can send multi-part SMS msgs directly from my T68ie.

[juehoe]

Originally posted by xenna


According to this thread it is possible:

http://www.cliesource.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=7802&highlight=dial+t68i

X.

I know this thread - but not how to do...

-Juerg-

[xenna]

Originally posted by juehoe


I know this thread - but not how to do...

-Juerg-

Since I installed the t68i driver instead of the t68 driver an option 'Enable tap-Dialing or Tap-E-mail-address' has appeared in my address book preferences. The Tap-E-mail stuff works (when I tap an e-mail address) but I have no clue how to de the tap Dialing thing.

Puzzled...

The Multi-SMS thing just doesn't seem to work with the TG50. I can send 2 part msgs, but I always only receive the first part :-(

[seamaster97]

Originally posted by xenna
Can you send multi-part sms messages to yourself (larger than 160 characters)?

I can't unfortunately...

X.

I also use the T68i with my TG-50. Unfortunately, you can't send multi-part SMS using the built-in SMS program on the TG-50.

Tried using FunSMS and voila! It sends multi-part SMS. BUT - and this is a big BUT - horror of horrors, FunSMS does not use the bluetooth connection that is user established! What that means is that FunSMS attempts to discover the T68i everytime you have to connect! That sucks because that means taking the T68 out of my holster, go to connections, go to bluetooth, and then switch "discoverable" on. What a chore and how stupid can the FunSMS programmers be not to use the user defined/established bluetooth connection.

[ToeCutter]

Originally posted by graph101
juehoe, please post your experience with both devices. im planning to get both soon. you should try funsms with it since it supports bt. do you have a dongle?

The Clie and T68i are a PERFECT match. I've have had NO problems using the two togther. Web browsing, SMS and BT phone dialing all work just as promised. I'm using the SMS app that comes loaded on the Clie and Web Pro for browsing. I have a Belkin BT PC card for BT syncing, which also works just as promised.

I can wholeheartedly recommend both devices (as well as the Jabra BT headset to use with the phone)

[graph101]

toecutter, thats just what i wanted to hear. perfect combo. i know t68i is slow as hell compared to nokias but ill manage. i just ordered the t68i and just waiting for it now. ill just play with just t68i for now and then order the TG after i get bored with it to restore the funfactor again =)

[xenna]

Originally posted by graph101
toecutter, thats just what i wanted to hear. perfect combo. i know t68i is slow as hell compared to nokias but ill manage. i just ordered the t68i and just waiting for it now. ill just play with just t68i for now and then order the TG after i get bored with it to restore the funfactor again =)

Well Toecutter may be right, but I - and others - have big problems getting the following to work on a 'perfect' TG50 + T68i combo:

- Sending multi-part SMS
- Dialing phone via Bluetooth

It may not be the most important features but it's frustrating nonetheless. If Toecutter or anyone else can help me getting this to work I would be grateful.

X.

[SwissDan]

Originally posted by juehoe
I cannot get working together my TG50 and the T68i...

Both devices "see" each other but the connection test in the prefs, SMS etc does not work ("no connection possible").

Kind regards from Switzerland
-Juerg Hoelzle-



Juerg,

have you succeeded? is it working? i have the same configuration.... just contact me!

Dan
Switzerland

[hjm]

I have got the same BT problems using a TG50 and T68i. I downloaded a driver for the T68 which didn't make it work. Where can I find the driver for the T68i? I looked on the Palm site but couldn't find it.
Cheers

HJ

[xenna]

You can get the T68i driver here: http://xenna.no-ip.com/Sony-ET68i.zip

X.

[ToeCutter]

Originally posted by xenna


Well Toecutter may be right, but I - and others - have big problems getting the following to work on a 'perfect' TG50 + T68i combo:

- Sending multi-part SMS
- Dialing phone via Bluetooth

It may not be the most important features but it's frustrating nonetheless. If Toecutter or anyone else can help me getting this to work I would be grateful.

X.

Hmmm, some strange problems indeed. I've had no issues with BT dialing or SMS. That's not to say the issues described here aren't genuine.

I just verified that both work on my setup. One thing I have done is set the T68i's bluetooth setting to "ON", as I seemed to have difficulty connecting when set to "AUTOMATIC". This hasn't really impacted battery life at all, although my battery is very new.

I would also try the Sony Mobile Manager software to manage connections between the T68i and Clie. Be sure to check the requirements for the software, as it only supported in certain countries.

I wish I had more to offer, unfortunately, I don't.

Good luck...

[Appleman]

I am looking to get this combination, but have one question. Can pictures taken with the T68i, with a communicam of course, be transferred over bluetooth to the clie?

[SwissDan]

no, bluetooth pictures clie-t68i is not working (at least: now!)... you only have to beam the pictures via Infrared, but it's working withouth problems!

[Appleman]

Well that's still ok then. At least there is the ability to transfer them in some fashion then. Thanks!

[SwissDan]

just make sure: the t68i has a lousy resolution, so don't expect to have WONDERFUL pictures ;-)

dan

[donaldekelly]

I am sure this was asked a time ago -

But, what is the best phone to match with a NX70v (Blue tooth, preferrably with AT&T plan)?

Thanks

[coxy]

Originally posted by SwissDan
no, bluetooth pictures clie-t68i is not working (at least: now!)... you only have to beam the pictures via Infrared, but it's working withouth problems!

You can do this with a Siemens S55 however. Have you thought of giving that a try instead? It's a faster newer equivalent of the T68i and I'm more than happy with it (save the crappy voice dialing with the new firmware).

Paul

[jk600]

Originally posted by xenna

...
- Sending multi-part SMS
...
X.

This may be of interest to those of you trying to do multi-part SMS messages. I ran across this while looking for some info in the T68i user guide.

"Long messages
A text message can contain up to 160 characters.
You can send a longer message by linking two or more
mesages. Please note that you are charged for each
message within a linked message.
To turn long messages on, select Long SMS from the
Messages/SMS/Options menu, then select On.

Note: Check with your service provider for the
maximum number of linked messages that can
be combined to form one linked message."

T68i User Guide, Messaging, page 51

[Blethook]

Dear All.

A quick question, please:

Do I need to have the GPRS subscription to have the T68i & TG50 to "talk" to each other in order to send email, surf the web, etc?

I have the T68i phone, but I don't think I have the GPRS subscription. So, whenever I try to connect the T68i & the TG50 together, the T68i would try to dial up the access number (a couple of times/tries), but then it would abort/get disconnected, and at the end it would give me the message that basically says, "Modem Not Found."

I have no problem pairing the two devices, etc., and got the proper response from the T68i when testing the phone connection on the TG50.

I also tried the same with Tungsten T, and got the same result. Although it works OK when I connect the Tungsten T with the PalmModem.

Any idea?

Thanks, Erwin

[coxy]

Originally posted by Blethook


Do I need to have the GPRS subscription to have the T68i & TG50 to "talk" to each other in order to send email, surf the web, etc?

No you can also use CSD (circuit switched data) - this is the equivalent of dialing from a home PC using a dial up modem. You do need data enabled but this is normal these days in the UK at least.

I have the T68i phone, but I don't think I have the GPRS subscription.

Have you thought about ringing your service provider and asking?

So, whenever I try to connect the T68i & the TG50 together, the T68i would try to dial up the access number (a couple of times/tries)

Does a number appear? There isn't a dial up number as such with GPRS as it is a network service, although just to confuse matters the TG50 does say dialing. In my case it goes something like this :-
Initialising
Dialing "name of network service you have input on TG50"
Signing on

There could be several things that are preventing the connection from taking place so ensure that you have the following:-

GPRS or CSD enabled on your phone and the settings that your provider uses you may get some help from here (http://www.sonyericsson.com/spg.jsp?page=gis&Redir=template%3DSP1%26B%3Die%26PID%3D9932%26LM%3DSIM_V)

The correct settings entered in the 'network' and 'connection' settings on the TG-50 (there is a program on the on install CD in Europe that gave me my settings although the UAE isn't supported) :( .

You may also need a phone driver on the TG-50 although as I recall this is only needed for things like SMS etc. If you need it email me and I will send the one I have.

[Blethook]

Coxy,
Thanks for the inputs.

When I tap on the "Get Email" button on my CLIE mail, it will try to dial up the number (the message "Connecting to server_name..." shows up), and then on the T68i it will show: Dialing +971...(my company dial-up server number), and the progress bar on the T68i would go halfway, then it would stop and disconnect. It then automatically attempted to redial twice, before it gave me the message "No modem found." (Can't really remember the exact error message, but basically it acted as if the modem is missing).

I lost my mobile a few months ago, and then get a replacement card (same number). The problem seems to appear after I get the replacement card (but, I'm not sure). If I remember correctly, I had the GPRS connection before (which is why I asked the question).
I have also tried to dial-up using the T68i and my laptop (via IR) in the past, but had the same exact problem.

I have downloaded the CLIE Mobile Manager from the following address:
http://www.ita.sel.sony.com/support/clie/, and used the operator-independent/generic BT connection setup for T68i.

Thanks & regards,

[coxy]

Originally posted by Blethook
Coxy,
Thanks for the inputs.

When I tap on the "Get Email" button on my CLIE mail, it will try to dial up the number (the message "Connecting to server_name..." shows up), and then on the T68i it will show: Dialing +971...(my company dial-up server number)

If you are trying to dial a number you do not want to use GPRS you need the CSD settings to 'dial in' to your company server.

If, under preferences, you look in 'connection' then 'edit' the avilable connection you are using what init string do you have when you press the details... button? (edit the dial up number before posting if its listed there).

[kshcsuf]

Actually,
Only older firmware revisions of the t68i are slow. R6A and R7A are pretty darn fast! They've made quite large changes to the firmware to speed-up the menu interface, Bluetooth connectivity and improve RF reception.

I'm currently stuck at R3A (Cingular default in CA), but am awaiting a service cable I purchased off EBay and some logs to upgrade it myself.

A note to T68i users: it will _really_ be in your best interest to ask your telco provider if they can upgrade you to R7A or later (I believe R8A is available now.)

kshcsuf

Originally posted by graph101
toecutter, thats just what i wanted to hear. perfect combo. i know t68i is slow as hell compared to nokias but ill manage. i just ordered the t68i and just waiting for it now. ill just play with just t68i for now and then order the TG after i get bored with it to restore the funfactor again =)

[Blethook]

Coxy,

I've got it working now. Basically, I didn't set up the dial-up account properly the first time. So, I went back to Mobile Connection Wizard, and created another connection under the "Advanced Setup for Dial-Up Networking Using a Bluetooth Phone", and now it works OK.

Thanks:)

[coxy]

Great glad you got it working ok for you.

[Blethook]

It does seem now, that I needed the GPRS...

The day before the connection between the TG50 & T68i started to work, I activated my GPRS service, and everything seemed to be in order once the GPRS is active...I did make a mistake when setting up the dial-in account on my TG50, but that's not it.

Another reason I think it's the GPRS: The connection between my Tungsten T & T68i now works perfectly, without additional setup.

So, I guess it must've been the GPRS that was missing...