What can I use to make apps?

[ammar766]

I need a developer app that is PC based, one that I can easily make a single change, and view the change easily in a palm simulator. What do Alexander Pruss, Dmitry and I love my mom use? I don't want anything for palm like onboard c and Izybasic, I tried Izybasic but I didn't really like it. And I can't find and any user manuals for onboard c note I am a newbie but I can catch on really fast I also want something that can crack open any app for palm OS and let me edit the source code for my PERSONAL use only! Also can anyone recommend some good palm OS 5 simulators links would be even better! Thank you :)

[I love my mom]

Hello Ammar,

Actually I prefer todo all my development on my palm with either OnBoardC or PP (PalmPascal). However, I do lots of development on my PC as well. I use a variety of tools, including the Palm OS Developer Suite (from ACCESS), prc-tools (which uses the GCC compiler), and occasionally I use a combination like OnBoardC on the Palm OS Simulator. Codewarrior is an excellent compiler as well, but it's quite expensive :)

If you get something such as the Palm OS Developer Suite all the simulators and emulators you need will come with it. If you don't, all of them can be downloaded after registering at pdn.palm.com

Also, to crack open any palm app as you mention requires years of experience and take a VERY long time. In short, you won't be able to change any app you like. The only ones you will be allowed to change are ones that are opensource, such as all those listed a palmopensource.com. In addition, many projects that you download will already be in the format to compile with a certain compiler. For example, you may download a project you want to change that was built with Codewarrior. It's easiest therefore to recompile the project using the same compiler, but with some effort it can be ported to another compiler.

I hope I've covered everything you want to know :)

[phreakonaleash]

And I can't find and any user manuals for onboard c
really? In the download there is docs in /docs.

[FrankG]

When these questions come up I always recommend OrbForms designer. Native C coding, like with Gnu or CodeWarrior will give you ultimate capabilities and performance but OrbForms handles all of the tedious stuff, like chunk locking, segment limitations, etc. freeing me to develop code. HandBASIC seems pretty popular but I'm pretty much a C person so I went the OrbForms route. I like that it can build one PRC file so that I don't have to ship a separate run time environment.

It has a nice designer GUI. The build process automatically loads the new PRC into the simulator and launches it.

http://www.orbworks.com/

Oh yeah, you can also buy an onboard version for those times where you find you actually might want to do coding on the road in a way that's compatible with the PC side designer.

My two cents,
Frank

[ammar766]

Using orbforms right now looks good I'm also gonna use everything you suggested to ILMM Thanks for the help guys! Expect some sweat little freebies soon... >.<

[dmitrygr]

codewarrior + a myriad of self-made libraries and plugins

[Adam Helberg]

I would like an app to advance the date/time to next day at 0000 (12 am next day); and then be able to go back to the actual date/time.

This is to get Supermemo to generate a drill for the next day, do some of the drill and then go back to the actual date/time. Advancing by 24 hrs would activate my BackupMan backups which I don't want.

Adam