NetSkinner

[robitaille88]

This freeware application is pretty simple, but effectively. Essentially, it replaces the graphics of your Palm's web browser (6 currently supported) with that of a skin. Enjoy!

The current browsers supported are Blazer, NetFront, nWeb, Universe, WebPro, and Xiino.

I literally just finished getting the bugs out, so try and bear with all the FileFront download links. I'll have actual webpage up in a few days.

NetSkinner v1.0: http://files.filefront.com/NetSkinner+v10zip/;8466894;/fileinfo.html

NetSkinner SDKs: http://files.filefront.com/NetSkinner+SDKszip/;8466907;/fileinfo.html

Currently there have only been 2 user-created skins:

FireFront - A NetFront skinned based on Firefox 2.0 [link removed do to a bug]

HighRes Xiino (http://files.filefront.com/HighRes+Xiinoprc/;8466983;/fileinfo.html) - A high-resolution version of Xiino's default skin


And in case you want to revert to the original skins of the web browsers, skin files containing the classic skins can be found at [link removed due to a bug]

Feel free to make you own skins and share 'em. Feedback is welcomed.

[cms]

When you said soon, I didnt know this soon lol ^-^

[cms]

Do you think you can make it compatible with avantgo?

[robitaille88]

Lol, unfortunately, it may have been too soon. I have removed the FireFront link for the time being, as well as the Original skins zip file as both those seem to have problems. However, the HighRes Xiino works beautifully.

EDIT: cms, in the next update I'll try to add AvantGo support

[cms]

Unfortunately this is why he took down firefront....

http://i213.photobucket.com/albums/cc55/CMStudio/200793-2.15.jpg

But Im glad to see that the program can actualy skin browsers, I am very happy with outcome (and will be even more happy when it gets fixed :D )

[dmitrygr]

hehe, old pilrc bug -> messing up endianness on 16-bit bitmaps

[I love my mom]

I assume that using an application like SkinUI will skin the webpages you visit (i.e., the buttons on forms)?

Skinning the browser is a cool idea :)

[PinCushionQueen]

<PCQ is anxiously awaiting the release of that Blazer FireFox skin that BrentDC was showing off yesterday>

[robitaille88]

dmitrygr, is there any way to get aroung the pilrc bug?

[cms]

<PCQ is anxiously awaiting the release of that Blazer FireFox skin that BrentDC was showing off yesterday>

<cms (as shown in that thread) is going to go into a state of deep depression If the blazer/crystalfox theme doesnt come out in less than a week :D


http://i213.photobucket.com/albums/cc55/CMStudio/2007_9_2-16_49_49.jpg

http://i213.photobucket.com/albums/cc55/CMStudio/200792-1843.18.jpg

[BrentDC]

Once Jason Robitaille finds a workaround for the pilrc bug, I *should* release the skin shortly after (I've used pilrc before, so it *should* be easy to port to the correct format).

[cms]

Once Jason Robitaille finds a workaround for the pilrc bug, I *should* release the skin shortly after (I've used pilrc before, so it *should* be easy to port to the correct format).

Its prity inteteresting that the instant you showed 1src your modificatioin,
Jason Robitaille said he was about to release his skinner program.

I guess the moons were lined up or some other crazy thing like that. :D

[BrentDC]

I know, that is strange, I guess I brought him out of the woodwork (or the reaction I got, convinced him to release it :) ), cause there is no way he made that overnight :D

[cms]

I know, that is strange, I guess I brought him out of the woodwork (or the reaction I got, convinced him to release it :) ), cause there is no way he made that overnight :D


Now we got to convince Dmitry to release his Uber Dynamic memory thing that hes been hiding from us :D

Mabey its like a page file for palm or somthing crazy like that. :D

[PinCushionQueen]

<cms (as shown in that thread) is going to go into a state of deep depression If the blazer/crystalfox theme doesnt come out in less than a week :D

I know... me too!! I wonder if we can get a group discount on Prozac or something :p

Anyways, thanks for the update BrentDC and thanks for working on this bug for us Jason!! :D

[BrentDC]

You two are to funny... :D

[IamAJD]

I'm glad to see this coming to fruition! I thought you'd dropped the project since I hadn't heard anything in so long. Good work man and good luck on those last few bugs!

[bdhu2001]

Waiting would be an understatement. The blazer skin with be the bomb.

[I love my mom]

cause there is no way he made that overnight :D

I don't know, those developers who know what they're doing can be awful sneeky :D

[phreakonaleash]

Dmitry,
I read somewhere that the cvs version fixed the 16bpp bug.... Is this true or misunderstanding?

[robitaille88]

Updated NetSkinner to 1.1:
-Added AvantGo support
-Added icon skinning support
-Fixed compatibility problems with Blazer and NetFront

Until the webpage for NetSkinner is up on my website, here are the temp download links:

NetSkinner v1.1 - Download (http://files.filefront.com/NetSkinner+v11zip/;8479334;/fileinfo.html)

FireFront (http://files.filefront.com/FireFrontprc/;8479389;/fileinfo.html) - Firefox 2.0 inspired NetFront skin

HighRes Xiino (http://files.filefront.com/HighRes+Xiinoprc/;8466983;/fileinfo.html) - A high-resolution version of Xiino's default skin


Original skins (to revert to original settings/graphics) can be downloaded here (http://files.filefront.com/Original+Skinszip/;8479395;/fileinfo.html).


The SDKs pack (updated) can be downloaded here (http://files.filefront.com/NetSkinner+SDKszip/;8479411;/fileinfo.html).


BrentDC, I guess this means you'll be able to update your Blazer beta theme to be 16-bit in the release :-D

[tckober73]

are there any blazer skins out yet?

[BrentDC]

I have a Blazer skin *close* to release, see a screenshot of it on the first page of this thread. It is still in beta, and only 8-bit, so it'll be a little longer till release.

[tckober73]

sounds great - can't wait.

[scottl]

I have 2 questions:

Is anyone working on a skin for AvantGo? I have no experience, so don't ask me.

I believe the purpose of NetSkinner is to change any built in graphics in the supported browsers. Anything else? Not that that's not enough to make it cool. :cool:

[HiRes]

So it's only capable of skinning Netfront if its in RAM not ROM? I have Netfront in the ROM and it's telling me to move it to RAM before it can be skinned. :?

[BrentDC]

Yes, ROM-based browsers can't be skinned as they are read-only. You would have to copy it from ROM to RAM. The NetSkinner app actually changes the app, and thus this why programs have to be RAM-resident.

[pruss]

hehe, old pilrc bug -> messing up endianness on 16-bit bitmaps

I am pretty sure I fixed this in pilrc cvs. I should make available a fixed exe version for download.

[pruss]

dmitrygr, is there any way to get aroung the pilrc bug?

Until I release the fixed version, you can use the version of pilrc included in my skin maker packages (e.g., for mySkin or for ClieSkinner) and give it the flag -SonySkin.

[HiRes]

Just skinned my browser. Very nice!

[PinCushionQueen]

Hi there! Thanks again for this little app :D Just one quick question... is it possible to skin "the rotating world with the arrow spinning around it" that shows up while a page is loading? I notice that it's not skinned on the CrystalFox theme and I'm curious if it's even possible? Thanks!!

[cyberdude]

I skinned blazer. Now everytime I try to start blazer I get a white screen and I need to do a pin reset. I've tried waiting a while, hoping that it's just blazer's slow startup, but no go. Any idea what's happening? Could it be some conflict with the ROM and RAM version? In netskinner it seemed to skin it okay.

[BrentDC]

@PCQ

Yes it is "skinnable", in fact any image you see in any application is easily changable. I originally changed that to a loading circular thingy like in FireFox, but Blazer doesn't call that resource real fast, so it didn't look good (and was hard to see). I ended up going back to the default.

@cyberdude

Try warm-reseting your device, and launch Blazer after (while still being warm reseted), and tell me what happens.

[PinCushionQueen]

I skinned blazer. Now everytime I try to start blazer I get a white screen and I need to do a pin reset. I've tried waiting a while, hoping that it's just blazer's slow startup, but no go. Any idea what's happening? Could it be some conflict with the ROM and RAM version? In netskinner it seemed to skin it okay.

How did you copy over Blazer? Did you use RExplorer? That's how I did it - and just the one Blazer file (~492k IIRC) in ROM ->copy to RAM. We use sooo many of the same apps and this skin works great on my device - I'm surprised it's not working on yours :confused:

@BrentDC - thanks for the information :) I think you made the right choice about not skinning the spinny globe thing if Blazer isn't going to play nice. ;)

[cyberdude]

How did you copy over Blazer? Did you use RExplorer? That's how I did it - and just the one Blazer file (~492k IIRC) in ROM ->copy to RAM. We use sooo many of the same apps and this skin works great on my device - I'm surprised it's not working on yours :confused:
That's exactly what I did.

@BrentDC

I give it a whirl.

[cyberdude]

Try warm-reseting your device, and launch Blazer after (while still being warm reseted), and tell me what happens.
That works. So what does that mean?

[juggernaut#2]

I skinned netfront and blazer and everything works fine. looks greta, also, thx!

As someone somewehre stated that netskinner actually changes the program file I guessed it´s OK to delete netskinner and the skin file after the skin has been applied and I guessed right. As for returning to the original skin I guess it´s fine to just delete the RAM copy of blazer and use the (unskinned) ROM copy, right? (This doesn´t apply to netfront, of course, which has to be re-installed or skinned using the "original skin").

[BrentDC]

It's not Blazer, or NetSkinner, it's something else. Have you installed any non-NVFS aware stuff lately?

[BrentDC]

@juggernaut#2

Yes, Netskinner actually changes these Web Browsers resource files, so you can delete the themes and NetSkinner after if you like. Deleting the RAM copy of Blazer will make your palm call the ROM one, so that's a good way to un-skin. NetFront would have to be reinstalled, or skinned to the original to go back :)

[cyberdude]

It's not Blazer, or NetSkinner, it's something else. Have you installed any non-NVFS aware stuff lately?
To be perfectly honest I have a lot of junk on my TX and I'm not sure what is and is not NVFS aware. I know I've got a least one app that is a problem (although I don't know which app it is) because Palm Internals crashes on me when I tap notifications. Unfortunately that doesn't tell me anything. I've tried everything I can think of with the exception of reinstalling everything from scratch. I don't particulary want to do that, since I've got about 65mb of apps and dbs installed (not counting stuff on card).

Any suggestions?

I thought that the ROM copy of Blazer was working - I'll have to check that.

[cyberdude]

When I launched the RAM copy of blazer, my DIA popped up and then it froze. I deleted the RAM copy using RE and refreshed my launcher and launched the ROM copy of Blazer. The DIA did not come up and the TX is now frozen - I'll wait a little longer before I do a reset.

Anything I installed recently was from this board or updates I got through trackerdog.

[BrentDC]

Well... that's a tough one. Blazer is really finicky about the DBCache because it uses so much of it. But if that was the problem, I'd expect a crash not a freeze/not load. I don't think it is a NetSkinner problem at all because if it was, the problem would persist even after a warm-reset. Tell you what, go to Resco Explorer, and export your applications list to the memo pad, then paste here.

[BrentDC]

Do you have auto-wifi installed? And did you see the Blazer toolbar, or just a totally white screen?

[juggernaut#2]

... because Palm Internals crashes on me when I tap notifications.
Does that happen when you do a fresh start using PAGE-UP ?
If so, you got a real problem, if not, you might just start searching for one of those apps that are autostarted at boot-up...

I had to go that road and (luckily) I found the culprits: TextPlus for one, and Clipper from standalone for another. Ever since i don´t have any special problems (which does NOT mean my TX is as stable as my T3 was ...). As for finding them I didn´t do an install from scratch but just moved all of those auotstart apps to the card and moved them back one by one, doing a hell of a lot of resets in between :)

[BrentDC]

Another one is ClipPro, a NVFS nightmare....

[cyberdude]

Do you have auto-wifi installed? And did you see the Blazer toolbar, or just a totally white screen?
I have auto-wifi and when launched from RAM it was all white except the DIA and the statusbar, from ROM it was all white except the statusbar.

Here is my applist (I used RE and clicked applications):
<< indicates a LX shortcut
* indicates a Powerrun shortcut
09/06/07 $:/All
Name,
Quick Tour
«ejeweled!
«ice 121
2 Play
2PlayMe
Ababall
Accessorizer
Addit
AeroPlayer
Aggression
Analyzer*
AppIcon
Artelope V
AutoInstall
AutoOffEx.
BackOff!
BackupMan
BallZ
BDicty
Bez Calc
BlazFront
Calc
Calendar
Card Export*
Card Info
Card Reader
CardTXT
ChronMemo
CJListLauncher
CleanMe
ClMyFiD
Commute
Contacts
CoolDAs (DA)
CoolDAs Helper
Crash
Crosswords
Currency
DABuilder
DAkey
DALauncher*
DataVizTech
DBCacheTool
dbScan
Dialer
DIAMemory
DispKey
Documents
DragonEdit
DragonEdit*
Dummy
DynaClock.TX
DynaClockUI
eReader
Expense
Explorer
Favorites
FileZ
FitalyLetris
FlushDA (DA)
Font Collector
Free42*
GedStar Pro
Hangman*
Hasher
HoldSync
HotSync
HRCaptDM
IBM Java VM
IconsPlus*
InstantOff
iReview*
jaPalmMade
JawBreak
KhromaQC
Launch-Anywhere*
Launcher X
LauncherList
List
Manual*
McFile
Media
Memos
MetrO
Mobipocket
Mobipocket*
MoePaint
MonoPalm
mReset
MSDict
My Roots*
MyInstall
myKbd
Neeews!
Net Sync
NetFront 3.1*
NetSkinner
NG Undo
NoAlarms
NoBattDialog
NoMountSwitch
Note Pad
NVBackup
Off Flush
OnLaunch
OnTime Rx
Opera Mini*
Palm Insider Pro*
PalmInfo
PalmInternals
PalmPDF
PDA Photo
PetitLaunch
PowerClip
PowerDiGi
PowerRUN
Prefs
PREFS
ProfileMD
pTunes
PwdLaunch
RakuDA (DA)
ReConfig
Record\UM
Reset Doctor
Restore Pnt
Room Builder*
RscBackup
RunDA
ScreenShot
Select DA(SMda) (DA)
SetAutoOff*
Shadow
SharkLinks
skinUI
SmartList
SmartUpdate
SMS
Snap
Solitaire
Spell5
SplashClock*
SplashID
StabilityTest
Strip
Sudoku
Syncer
SyncNotify
T-Blaster
Tasks
TCPMP
TecSync
tejpWriter
TextPlus
Thesaurus
Time Logger
Timesheet
TrackerDog
Triball
UDMH
UniCMD
Uninstall
Universe
VersaMail
VolumeResume
WarpSpeed
WatchM
Web
WifFi
WiFileLT*
Wordbook
WordWiggle
World Clock
YAHM

[BrentDC]

OMG, that is a lot of stuff, but nothing looked blatantly obvious. I noticed you don't have Resco Locker? You might want to install it, launch it, and if it doesn't crash, see what has "!" as an attribute.

[scottl]

Another one is ClipPro, a NVFS nightmare....
I sure miss ClipPro, TextPlus, and QLaunch... Maybe TX2 will can the NVFS :) I know, not holding my breath.

[cyberdude]

Does that happen when you do a fresh start using PAGE-UP ?
If so, you got a real problem, if not, you might just start searching for one of those apps that are autostarted at boot-up...

I had to go that road and (luckily) I found the culprits: TextPlus for one, and Clipper from standalone for another. Ever since i don´t have any special problems (which does NOT mean my TX is as stable as my T3 was ...). As for finding them I didn´t do an install from scratch but just moved all of those auotstart apps to the card and moved them back one by one, doing a hell of a lot of resets in between :)
No not on a warm reset. Maybe that is what I will do.

[scottl]

Here is my applist (I used RE and clicked applications):

I can't create a list like this w/RE. It is a great list to have put aside. I realize your involved with more important issues right now, but if you have a moment, could you detail how you made this list in RE? I'm using v3.10.04. Thanks!

[cyberdude]

OMG, that is a lot of stuff, but nothing looked blatantly obvious. I noticed you don't have Resco Locker? You might want to install it, launch it, and if it doesn't crash, see what has "!" as an attribute.
I do have Rlocker installed. It just doesn't show up under the applications tab of RE because I finalized it. It shows up in my control panels.

the following have ! as an attrib:

Time Logger !
UDMH !
AutoOffExt !LP
DisplayManager !LP
LauncherX !LP (locked by rlock)
PowerBright !LP
TextPlus !LP (locked by rlock) - this came with D2G 10
Crash !P
Fixfield !P
Folder !P
OffDisc !P
SecurityPnl-scr1 !P
Showbattery !P
YAHM !P

[BrentDC]

Go the RE applications screen, make sure the "Columns" selected are Name (icon doesn't make a difference), then in the menu click export, and it'll give you a chioce of TXT or memo :)

[BrentDC]

I'd start with these.

Time Logger !
AutoOffExt !LP
PowerBright !LP
TextPlus !LP (locked by rlock) - this came with D2G 10
Crash !P
Fixfield !P
Folder !P
OffDisc !P

[cyberdude]

I can't create a list like this w/RE. It is a great list to have put aside. I realize your involved with more important issues right now, but if you have a moment, could you detail how you made this list in RE? I'm using v3.10.04. Thanks!
I have the same version.

just do the following:

Start RE
in 2 pane mode tap in the left pane on Applications
In the right pane tap All
go to single pane mode
tap the menu symbol in the statusbar or the title bar
go to the tools menu
choose export list
I chose text file as I find it easier to use
open the text fil in either wordpad or word, but not notepad (it doesn't interpret the returns/linefeeds)

[BrentDC]

Wait a minute, that isn't enough. This isn't after a warm-reset is it? NVBackup, Resco Backup, IconPlus, PowerDigi, should all recieve background notifications ("!"), just to name a few, this is strange...

[cyberdude]

Go the RE applications screen, make sure the "Columns" selected are Name (icon doesn't make a difference),
Forgot this step! Thanks.

[cyberdude]

Wait a minute, that isn't enough. This isn't after a warm-reset is it? NVBackup, Resco Backup, IconPlus, PowerDigi, should all recieve background notifications ("!"), just to name a few, this is strange...
Your right. I was looking at only part of the list.
Oddly Resco Backup, PowerDigi and BackupMan don't show as "!" (I don't use iconplus)

The following are additional items:

BackOff!
Bdicty
NoAlarmsEN
NVBackup
OffFlush
RescoNews
Screenshot5
SkinDIA!

Time Logger !
UDMH !
AutoOffExt !LP
DisplayManager !LP
LauncherX !LP (locked by rlock)
PowerBright !LP
TextPlus !LP (locked by rlock) - this came with D2G 10
Crash !P
Fixfield !P
Folder !P
OffDisc !P
SecurityPnl-scr1 !P
Showbattery !P
YAHM !P
_________

[cyberdude]

I'd start with these.

Time Logger !
AutoOffExt !LP
PowerBright !LP
TextPlus !LP (locked by rlock) - this came with D2G 10
Crash !P
Fixfield !P
Folder !P
OffDisc !P
I took the first 4 out of my UC list, then reset, but it made no difference. I'm in the process of trying the other four.

[BrentDC]

WARNING! WHAT I AM ABOUT TO TELL YOU IS VERY DANGEROUS AND COULD RENDER YOUR DEVICE UNUSEABLE.

Does flushing the DBCache cause a reset? A lot of times flushing the DBCache when you have a non-NVFS aware app installed will cause a reset, this could tell us if this is the problem. Although it might also brick your device....

[scottl]

Cool, those steps work perfectly. I wasn't clicking on "All". Too bad there isn't a Version column available. Hmm. I wonder if TrackerDog has an export option - I haven't loaded that on my TX yet. Thanks.

[BrentDC]

BTW, I'm going to write a piece about NetSkinner on TamsPalm!

[cyberdude]

WARNING! WHAT I AM ABOUT TO TELL YOU IS VERY DANGEROUS AND COULD RENDER YOUR DEVICE UNUSEABLE.

Does flushing the DBCache cause a reset? A lot of times flushing the DBCache when you have a non-NVFS aware app installed will cause a reset, this could tell us if this is the problem. Although it might also brick your device....
LOL No I use Offlush 2.0 and it works very well. No crash after a flush.

Note that after moving the last four of the ones you suggested, blazer started okay.

Those were:

Crash (crash pro which I've had on my device since I got it)
Fixfield (Alex Pruss's)
folder (app from old device to move things synced to launcher directory on card to proper directory)
Offdisc (This software and its source code is in the Public Domain.
Use at your own risk. OffDisc disconnects your network connection every time the power button is pressed. This fixes a problem on some Treos that allows them to maintain a connection and drain the battery even though they appear to be turned off. by shsmith of 1src)

[BrentDC]

Does Palm Internals still crash?

[BrentDC]

BTW, that warning I have Teikei'd, so whenever I suggest something dangerous I can input that easily :D

[cyberdude]

Cool, those steps work perfectly. I wasn't clicking on "All". Too bad there isn't a Version column available. Hmm. I wonder if TrackerDog has an export option - I haven't loaded that on my TX yet. Thanks.
TD is excellent and use the export function all the time. I usually check the Only new items box. It exports to memo I then use cardtext to import to text file.

[cyberdude]

Does Palm Internals still crash?
Haven't tried that yet. I just did a reset after copying crash pro and fixfield back to my device and blazer didn't work so I deleted fixfield (the overlay file as well) and reset again. Instead of immediately resetting it flashed a bunch of stuff - what looked like a calculator screen then went black. I then did a pin reset and it did reset and I got a security screen - security should have been disabled! Luckily I had a hint in there so I knew what the password was. Now I just tried starting blazer with only crash pro of the 4 back on the system. It looks like it is frozen again. I'll try resetting, taking crash pro off and resetting again.

[BrentDC]

That's weird, but now that you've got it narrowed down, it should be easier (at least we hope it's narrowed down).

p.s. This is posted with Opera Mini 4, so if the post is garbled messed, or in any way wrong you'll know why :D

[cyberdude]

That's weird, but now that you've got it narrowed down, it should be easier (at least we hope it's narrowed down).

p.s. This is posted with Opera Mini 4, so if the post is garbled messed, or in any way wrong you'll know why :D
Figured it out - the locking that is - it was my error when I tried to do a soft reset I tapped lock and off by mistake.

It is definitely Crash Pro. But I've been using this since I got my TX and Blazer has worked (although I last used it a couple of days ago).

[BrentDC]

So with Crash Pro gone Blazer works, and no Palm Internals crashing?

[cyberdude]

Now I'm really perplexed. All this time I've been playing with Blazer in ROM and it didn't work until I deleted Crash Pro. I copied Blazer to RAM and started it and white screen. Whether I start it from my launcher or from RE by going to the RAM section and tapping on blazer. When I warm reset it shows up skinned - is that the ROM or RAM version?

[cyberdude]

So with Crash Pro gone Blazer works, and no Palm Internals crashing?
Palm Internals still crashes when I tap Notif.

[BrentDC]

If it shows up skinned, it is the RAM. The palm os will execute the RAM version if it's there, and if not the ROM one.

[BrentDC]

If PI is still crashing, you still have a problem....

[cyberdude]

If PI is still crashing, you still have a problem....
Yeah well ....

Blazer is now working! I don't know why. I'm going to try to put my entries back into my UC list one at a time and see what happens. If everything is okay I'll put Crash back on and see if I can keep it working. I have a feeling that even though it started working after I took CP off, it isn't CP, but rather something else it is conflicting with.

Anyway the CrystalFox skin looks great!!!!!!

[BrentDC]

Thanks!!!!

[PinCushionQueen]

Hi CyberDude! I just tried launching skinned Blazer with OffDisc & FixField installed & CrashPro 2.28 enabled --> No problem. You must have some other issue and crash pro is kinda catching it but locking up instead. You might try to delete your Blazer cache file - I was getting locked up's for awhile (although at a different time) involving Blazer. Deleting the cache helped and made it so a flush didn't occur everytime I used Blazer... Something was corrupted in there.

[BrentDC]

I don't use Crash Pro, but doesn't it have some sort of "custom" reset screen before the actual reset? Maybe it locks up when initializing that, so.... does that even make sense?

[ammar766]

Hey I haven't posted on here in a while but this Netskinner looks all to exiting when a couple of new skins come out ill start skinning for it, I need a bass to run through hpstudio :)

[tckober73]

so which blazer skins are out there yet?
i want one :-)

[juggernaut#2]

I´m glad my tip got you further even if you don´t seem to be running smoothly yet ... but keep trying, it´ll help :)
Since I do use a lot of the ones you have and am running smoothly I might be able to give you some hints concerning those you listed:


BackOff!
Bdicty
NoAlarmsEN
RescoNews
Screenshot5
PowerBright !LPThese I don´t know about.


DisplayManager !LP
NVBackup
OffFlush
SkinDIA!
SecurityPnl-scr1 !P
Showbattery !P
YAHM !PThese I am running as well without any problems (assumed that we have the same versions, but I´d suppose you´re using the latest of all of them), except for OffFlush of which I think I remember you use v2.0, whereas I use v1.0.


Time Logger !
UDMH !
AutoOffExt !LP
LauncherX !LP (locked by rlock)
TextPlus !LP (locked by rlock) - this came with D2G 10
Crash !P
Fixfield !P
Folder !P
OffDisc !P
Is TimeLogger the one from ResponsiveSoftware (the best time&billing soft around)? If so, I really have no clue why this would be requiring a notification because it does no background processing at all. At least the one I use does not use notif´s and does not cause any problems as well.
AutoOffExt did not work on my device which might be due to some other software I use (HandyAid, i.e.). LauncherX does not need to be locked.

I don´t know anything about UDMH, but that would be dmitry´s part anyway. OffDisc did cause problems when you do a flush while a connection is up (which i.e. happens when switching browsers), that´s why I took it off (since it was written for treo´s it does not actually help on a TX, since just turning it off will do the same, something you obviously wouldn´t like to do with a treo). Crash (all versions from 2.24 up) and TextPlus turned out to render my device unstable, that´s why I took them off. Instead of Crash you might consider using ResetDoctor which does have a reset log, too. Don´t know about Folder.

FixField is a special candidate. I do suspect it - together with CenterMenu which i am missing in your list - to be the cause of severe blazer crashes when putting the stylus into a web-based text field, i.e. when trying to do a quick reply on 1src mobile. But I have not been able to confirm and track that (that´s why I didn´t ask alex about it). With "severe" i mean it does not just crash and reset, but will keep on crashing until I do a PAGE-UP-reset and a normal reset afterwards.

So one last tip: When moving suspicious apps (and at the beginning all apps are suspicious until proved not to be) don´t forget the panels.

[juggernaut#2]

so which blazer skins are out there yet?
i want one :-)
<click> (http://www.1src.com/forums/showthread.php?t=133206)

[cyberdude]

Hi CyberDude! I just tried launching skinned Blazer with OffDisc & FixField installed & CrashPro 2.28 enabled --> No problem. You must have some other issue and crash pro is kinda catching it but locking up instead. You might try to delete your Blazer cache file - I was getting locked up's for awhile (although at a different time) involving Blazer. Deleting the cache helped and made it so a flush didn't occur everytime I used Blazer... Something was corrupted in there.
I'll try deleting the cache - thanks.

[cyberdude]

I´m glad my tip got you further even if you don´t seem to be running smoothly yet ... but keep trying, it´ll help :)
Since I do use a lot of the ones you have and am running smoothly I might be able to give you some hints concerning those you listed:

Is TimeLogger the one from ResponsiveSoftware (the best time&billing soft around)? If so, I really have no clue why this would be requiring a notification because it does no background processing at all. At least the one I use does not use notif´s and does not cause any problems as well.
This is the RNS software. it logs what apps are run and for how long. I originally got it to trouble shoot, but found that it gives very little valuable information.
AutoOffExt did not work on my device which might be due to some other software I use (HandyAid, i.e.). LauncherX does not need to be locked.
LX doesn't need to be locked? I was having some problems with it and locking it was one suggestion.

I don´t know anything about UDMH, but that would be dmitry´s part anyway. OffDisc did cause problems when you do a flush while a connection is up (which i.e. happens when switching browsers), that´s why I took it off (since it was written for treo´s it does not actually help on a TX, since just turning it off will do the same, something you obviously wouldn´t like to do with a treo).
I took this off.
Crash (all versions from 2.24 up) and TextPlus turned out to render my device unstable, that´s why I took them off. Instead of Crash you might consider using ResetDoctor which does have a reset log, too.
Unfortunately, Reset Doctor, which I also have, although it has a reset log, is virtually useless. The log either says it is a fatal error or not. It doesn't have near the amount of info that Crash pro has. I can't understand why Blazer has been working fine with crash Pro until now. I haven't updated it since 8/8/07 and I've used Blazer at least a couple of times since then.

Don´t know about Folder.
I really had this for ebooks (moved them from the launcher directory to the books directory after a hotsync), since I don't hotsync my ebooks the same way anymore I removed this.

FixField is a special candidate. I do suspect it - together with CenterMenu which i am missing in your list
My list didn't include panls. I used Final to put a bunch of stuff in prefs.
- to be the cause of severe blazer crashes when putting the stylus into a web-based text field, i.e. when trying to do a quick reply on 1src mobile. But I have not been able to confirm and track that (that´s why I didn´t ask alex about it). With "severe" i mean it does not just crash and reset, but will keep on crashing until I do a PAGE-UP-reset and a normal reset afterwards.

So one last tip: When moving suspicious apps (and at the beginning all apps are suspicious until proved not to be) don´t forget the panels.
I did at first, but thanks.

[PinCushionQueen]

CyberDude, here is a list of Blazer files to delete from RAM:
Blazer BF-History
Blazer CacheHistory
Blazer Cookies
Blazer Field Autofill
Blazer Find Autofill
Blazer URL Autofill

**Don't delete your Bookmarks file**

Sorry I didn't have the list handy when I posted last evening. Also, note that most of these files will be recreated as soon as you launch Blazer for the first time and you'll have to login into sites the first time you visit.

I really don't think you're actually having a problem with CrashPro itself - it's just that CrashPro is bringing to light a different problem. I think it's locking up when trying to launch the "Crash Image" because launching Blazer is causing a problem.

[BrentDC]

so which blazer skins are out there yet?
i want one :-)

here you go!

http://www.1src.com/forums/showpost.php?p=1008848&postcount=111

Does anybody think I should make one for NetFront?

[cyberdude]

CyberDude, here is a list of Blazer files to delete from RAM:
Blazer BF-History
Blazer CacheHistory
Blazer Cookies
Blazer Field Autofill
Blazer Find Autofill
Blazer URL Autofill

**Don't delete your Bookmarks file**

Sorry I didn't have the list handy when I posted last evening. Also, note that most of these files will be recreated as soon as you launch Blazer for the first time and you'll have to login into sites the first time you visit.

I really don't think you're actually having a problem with CrashPro itself - it's just that CrashPro is bringing to light a different problem. I think it's locking up when trying to launch the "Crash Image" because launching Blazer is causing a problem.
Thanks. I tried launching Blazer but it froze I then deleted these files and it worked!!! It seems to be working now although I've hesitated to put crash pro back on. CP is one of my favorite troubleshooting tools. I would not get nearly as much info about crashed apps without it.

[PinCushionQueen]

Thanks. I tried launching Blazer but it froze I then deleted these files and it worked!!! It seems to be working now although I've hesitated to put crash pro back on. CP is one of my favorite troubleshooting tools. I would not get nearly as much info about crashed apps without it.

Yay!! :D:D I'm glad it worked - that means one of your Blazer files was corrupted. So can you skin Blazer now? :cool:

I understand what you mean about being leary of CP... To be honest, I bought it and have it installed but only enable it anymore when I'm beta testing or trying out new software or trying to specifically hunt down a problem. Otherwise, I disable it. :)

[cyberdude]

Yay!! :D:D I'm glad it worked - that means one of your Blazer files was corrupted. So can you skin Blazer now? :cool:

I understand what you mean about being leary of CP... To be honest, I bought it and have it installed but only enable it anymore when I'm beta testing or trying out new software or trying to specifically hunt down a problem. Otherwise, I disable it. :)
Yeah I skinned Blazer - love it! That's a good idea about CP. I think I'll try that and see what happens. If it is indeed something else causing CP to invoke then having it disabled should circumvent that.

[tckober73]

here you go!

http://www.1src.com/forums/showpost.php?p=1008848&postcount=111

Does anybody think I should make one for NetFront?


thanks - looks great

[robitaille88]

Hi all,

Just wanted to let everyone know the NetSkinner webpage is now online. The official NetSkinner page is at http://canuck-software.ca/netskinner.html

I've also set up a page for all of the skins at http://canuck-software.ca/netskins.html

[robitaille88]

2 new skins have been released, iFront (for NetFront) and FireBlaze (for Blazer)

Check 'em out at http://canuck-software.ca/netskins.html

[alt236]

ANy chance you can do one for plucker? Or at least make the sdk?

[PinCushionQueen]

Very nice addition Robitaille88! You even changed the spinny globe thingy - MUCH improved over the original :D

[cms]

Whoot!

*Calls dibs on ifront* :D


MINE!

[tetz]

NetSkinner ver.1.1 just don't work on Netfront. it says the file must be installed in RAM even if the file is in RAM.

[robitaille88]

tetz, my guess is your NetFront is in the ROM, you need to copy it to the RAM

[pruss]

hehe, old pilrc bug -> messing up endianness on 16-bit bitmaps

It's fixed in the pilrc cvs, but we haven't released the fixed binaries.