Wireless Access Point

[mikeyg01]

Hi Guys

I hope I can get some help here. I have the NX70V and I am highly considering getting the wireless card but first I need some info.

Currently I have a wired network, however I have my Clie hooked to the client computer. Can I put the access point on the server computer (where I receive my Internet connection) and this thing still work(from the client computer)? or, do I have to run everything off the server computer, which might require special software. Please let me know what's best to do.

Thanks

[n2ifp]

I suppose if you have an Ethernet connection you can plug your WAP into. I have a separate switch/router/hub where my WAP plugs into. Unfortunately I have no experience using it with a server.

[mikeyg01]

Yes, have a router connected. I don't want to mislead anyone. When I say server, I mean my main computer, its not a server per se, it just the computer where I initially had my INTERNET connection then I placed another computer in my bedroom so I just networked them mainly because I needed the INTERNET connection in my bedroom

[n2ifp]

http://www.cliesource.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=262&highlight=wireless

Wireless HotSync Info
Listed below are some common problems and highlights:

(combined for future reference)

The primary pc name has to be !!(double exclamation points) only!

Only works with the long preamble.

The Sony PEGA-WL100 is the ONLY card that works!

Use static/manual settings for IP and DNS addresses

Leave power save unchecked

Use infrastructure mode when on a LAN, even for the wireless HotSync

May not necessarily work on all Wireless Access Points, does work with Linksys, Dlink, Apple's Airport, and some others.

You can use an SSID of ANY.

Windows XP firewall can block a wireless HotSync.

First step is to get to connect with the LAN, then try to get the WAN side to work(gateway and DNS addressing)

Right click on the HotSync Manager Icon in the PC's system tray and select network as a valid HotSync method in addition to Local USB.

Lots of patience...

The following info was supplied by Xaositek:

network = ; wireless lan
go to details
if you haven't added a profile do so now.

ProfileName: (whatever)
Network ID (SSID): Any (case sensitive)

Go to advanced setup and turn off "PowerSaveMode""

Go to your hotsync program
go to menu
"Modem Sync"
set to "Network"
under LANSync, make sure its set to LANSync

Primary PC Setup
Primary PC Name: !! ;-- another must have this way
Primary PC Address: (the IP address of the computer to hotsync too)
Subnet Mask: 255.255.255.0 (unless different from Admin)

Click ok

Go to the main hotsync screen
Click on the "Modem" box
then choice your network as "Wireless LAN"
DO NOT ENTER A PHONE NUMBER

[n2ifp]

Originally posted by mikeyg01
Yes, have a router connected. I don't want to mislead anyone. When I say server, I mean my main computer, its not a server per se, it just the computer where I initially had my INTERNET connection then I placed another computer in my bedroom so I just networked them mainly because I needed the INTERNET connection in my bedroom

I don't think you'll need any special software. You will need a WAP and the Sony PEGA-WL100 card. Then everything will have to be configured to work in harmony, sometimes easier said than done :)

Currently there are no other drivers available for any other card, but the Sony.

[reggae]

if i were you, i would get a hardware router... it's far more secure than a software based router and will be NOTICABLY faster... PPP over Ethernet is dog slow on your box and uses a ton of resources (in addition to the routing software you're gonna use) all for what? about 70 bucks?

[accessfu]

First I have to thank all of you for creating a clie resource that certainly for me has been much more helpful than the Sony web site. I have read and attempted to carry out the suggestions for connecting my NX70 with the Sony wireless lan card to my home computer with LinkSys wireless router and AOL DSL connection. The card seems to establish a connection with the router, but I am unable to connect to the internet. I'm not sure what specific number I need to be plugging in for "gateway address, primarDNS, secondaryDNS, etc" If anyone has any suggestions, I would appreciate it - Thanks.

[reggae]

on your linksys you want to be running dhcp

the the router will provide all the info to your clie automatically.

[n2ifp]

Originally posted by accessfu
First I have to thank all of you for creating a clie resource that certainly for me has been much more helpful than the Sony web site. I have read and attempted to carry out the suggestions for connecting my NX70 with the Sony wireless lan card to my home computer with LinkSys wireless router and AOL DSL connection. The card seems to establish a connection with the router, but I am unable to connect to the internet. I'm not sure what specific number I need to be plugging in for "gateway address, primarDNS, secondaryDNS, etc" If anyone has any suggestions, I would appreciate it - Thanks.

The gateway is the IP of your router.

The DNS's are from your ISP, if there are 3 listed, you only need the first two.

I don't know if DSL adds to the complexity or not.

Auto settings don't necessarily work, believe me or do they connect reliably. I blame the bare bones WL100 WiFi driver. I have done lots of playing with having both a wired and wireless LAN with 8 PC's and two NX70 Clies. Not all routers may work either.

[mikeyg01]

just so i get this right...... i can be on the computer thats not connected directly to the internet and browse away.... Please Confirm. i do have a hardware router in place right now. i used it to set up my network

[reggae]

dsl line or cable line to dsl modem or cable modem

dsl modem or cable modem to router

router to switch or hub (you can skip this if you have a router/switch or router/hub... no such thing as a switch/hub)

pc's and access points connected to switch or hub

router configured to do NAT (most are default) and also configured as dhcp server (just accept the defaults unless you want to learn routing)

make sure your settings on clie and any machines in the house are configured for dhcp and/or "auto"

enjoy

[BClie2k]

Originally posted by n2ifp


The gateway is the IP of your router.

The DNS's are from your ISP, if there are 3 listed, you only need the first two.

I don't know if DSL adds to the complexity or not.

Auto settings don't necessarily work, believe me or do they connect reliably. I blame the bare bones WL100 WiFi driver. I have done lots of playing with having both a wired and wireless LAN with 8 PC's and two NX70 Clies. Not all routers may work either.

I need help on something similar to this. I have AOL DSL everything hooked up with my Linksys BEFW11S4 Ver. 2 My conection looks fine. However, my hotsync with the WiFi card is not reliable. Sometimes it works sometimes it gets idle.

However, I cannot get the Internet to work in my Clie. I think it has something to do with the DNS. I am not sure how AOL handles DNS, but I heard it is TTL something like Time To Live. I think meaning that it gets new DNS everytime it logs in. So how to solve this. Any ideas? Should I change anything in my Linksys router or anything?

Also everytime I want to access the Internet from my Clie I get the following message

Error: Incomplete
setup.
Please check your
network settings.

Please please please help help help,

Al

[n2ifp]

Originally posted by BClie2k


I need help on something similar to this. I have AOL DSL everything hooked up with my Linksys BEFW11S4 Ver. 2 My conection looks fine. However, my hotsync with the WiFi card is not reliable. Sometimes it works sometimes it gets idle.

However, I cannot get the Internet to work in my Clie. I think it has something to do with the DNS. I am not sure how AOL handles DNS, but I heard it is TTL something like Time To Live. I think meaning that it gets new DNS everytime it logs in. So how to solve this. Any ideas? Should I change anything in my Linksys router or anything?

Also everytime I want to access the Internet from my Clie I get the following message

Error: Incomplete
setup.
Please check your
network settings.

Please please please help help help,

Al

The only way we reliably could get our Clies to work with our Linksys setup was by setting the Clies manually with power save off. WiFi HotSync works very reliably on 4 different PC's, provided the IP is changed to address it. We have a Linksys WAP11 plugged into the Linksys 4 port Ethernet router set to DHCP and the WAN settings are set manually. We have a cable modem going to our ISP. I have no experience with AOL/DSL, or nor do I have a clue as to how they use their DNS's.

Mr. Reggae states that all you need to do is set everything to DCHP and AUTO. That would be great if it worked for the Clie, to be fair in some cases it has. It seems to depend on the setup and equipment used.

I spent many hours(days) getting my combo wire/wireless system to work. It works just fine now, it's fast and reliable. I can only relate to what had worked for me and I dogged it to death, maybe it was just shear determination:). IMHO, the Sony PEGA-WL100 driver is lacking the horsepower that a normal PC driver has.

Another user was trying to get his AOL dial-up to work, but I think he finally gave up on it.

As far as reliablity, I suppose it's possible to have intereference with other 2.4GHz devices and or conflicts with other PC's.

From my experience, internet access was highly dependant on the gateway and DNS addresses. The Windows XP firewall would kill a WiFi HotSync, if not setup properly.

If you do get the AOL to work, could you please share with us as what you did?

I hope this is of some help, good luck!

[oneeyesquare]

I'm all auto!!!!Netgear router/wap and cable line.No WEP (I live in the sticks). Rock solid connections....EVERY time!!!

[mashoutposse]

Same here.

[BClie2k]

I setup my Linksys router myself. I read somewhere on AOL that the DSL modem should be connected to the UpLink jack. So I did it that way and I guess my connection was doing fine. However, after setting my WAN as PPPoE (from Linksys website). The status option under http://192.168.1.1 wasn't working. It says that it wasn't connected. However, my PC Internet connection was fine. My WL100 wasn't still working. HotSync was kind of working I guess.

I called Linksys and they told me that I should connect my modem to the WAN jack not to the UpLink. So they guide me and I got connected my AOL.

Now, when I go to status under http://192.168.1.1 I see it is connected and I can see some DSN number, which I guess I needed.

I keep wondering if I should leave it as PPPoE or as Dynamic IP. AOL is based on PPPoE, but that is also a dynamic IP. I guess this add one more permutation.

Can anybody suggest which one should be better?

It was already 5am and I was getting frustrated so I tried my modem with the following configurations:

ProfileName: HomeLAN
NetworkID (SSID): mylastname (Same as my router setup)
WEP: none

ConnectMode: Infrastructure


In Advance Setup
IP Address 192.168.1.102 (My computer has 192.168.1.100)
SubnetMask 255.255.255.0
Gateaway Address 192.168.1.1 (I got this from my router IP)

DNS Address: (These I got them after I set up my modem with the WAN jack. When I was using the Uplink jack this wasnt working) Again I need some advice from DSL users with Dynamic IP or PPPoE

PowerSaveMode (Unchecked)



Now, when I hit on connect it does it alright. The green light blinks and my battery knows it is on because it goes down fast. However, when I try to use AOL for Palm or VeriChat or NetFront I get an error message saying:

Error: Incomplete
setup.
Please check your
network settings.

That really sucks.. I don't know what to do.

I tried to synch and it connects but it hangs on the DateBk. After that it fails. The green light lights very fast ast first and them it goes very slow.

When I got it working using the UpLink jack it used to blink very fast and complete the hotsync.

Can anybody go over the hotsync again? Any troubleshooting ideas?

Thanks,

Al

[BClie2k]

One more thing, I keep reading that I should keep everything auto for the Linksys modem?

I had 3 hours of sleep today and my wife is going to kill me for acting like as zombie in valentines Day.

Please Please Please Help Help Help. Any ideas will help a lot.


Thanks,


Al

[n2ifp]

Originally posted by oneeyesquare
I'm all auto!!!!Netgear router/wap and cable line.No WEP (I live in the sticks). Rock solid connections....EVERY time!!!

Cable or DSL connection?

[oneeyesquare]

Cable. WIFI hotsync no worky, but I that's possibley a software firewall issue. All the settings are right, didn't want to fool around setting everything manually. I have some fear I'll "break" it or blow it's "mo-jo" esp. after reading all the nightmare stories!!!!Not real concerned about that feature unless I decide to put the cradle on my nightstand for recharging for the night (save that cold trip to the computer desk and the risk of waking up my light-sleeping wife!!!)

[pelaca]

Originally posted by mikeyg01
Hi Guys

I hope I can get some help here. I have the NX70V and I am highly considering getting the wireless card but first I need some info.

Currently I have a wired network, however I have my Clie hooked to the client computer. Can I put the access point on the server computer (where I receive my Internet connection) and this thing still work(from the client computer)? or, do I have to run everything off the server computer, which might require special software. Please let me know what's best to do.

Thanks

If you put a WiFi board on your main computer with Win2K or XP you can share the internet connection with the WiFi lan... but depends on the software used for connect to internet...
For PPPoE in win2k I´ll recomend you, the software RAS PPPoE (http://user.cs.tu-berlin.de/~normanb/) for XP the standard PPPoE driver work perfectly...
For win 9x you have to use a software like WinRoute and RAS PPPoE...

I hope this help...

[BClie2k]

I don't know, but this is wierd. Today I was able to hotsync once and then it stopped doing it. Still not Internet. I don't think I'm doing anything wrong. I'm going to try tomorrow at my school.

Al

[n2ifp]

Originally posted by oneeyesquare
Cable. WIFI hotsync no worky, but I that's possibley a software firewall issue. All the settings are right, didn't want to fool around setting everything manually. I have some fear I'll "break" it or blow it's "mo-jo" esp. after reading all the nightmare stories!!!!Not real concerned about that feature unless I decide to put the cradle on my nightstand for recharging for the night (save that cold trip to the computer desk and the risk of waking up my light-sleeping wife!!!)

It seems a lot simpler now with cable, than DSL. AOL probably adds to the complexity besides. Thank you for the clarification. Al is looking for someone who has his AOL/DSL/WiFi combination working. For some the DHCP/AUTO thing works, for others it don't, Clie speaking.

I will look a little closer as to what Pelaca suggested, as I have no familarity with PPPoE.

I have a straight cable modem myself with Linksys units, The LAN side of the router is set to DHCP, while everything else is static, DNS's and all.

[oneeyesquare]

Some enterprising uber-geek should write a comprehensive manual...

[BClie2k]

Originally posted by silencer
WLan has no cables
Your attachment looks familiar.


Do you guys use your WL100 with your MS inserted. Or do you run applications like NetFront for the MS together with the WL100 card.

I heard someone saying that the WL100 might not work.

My status goes like this:

HotSynch works fine from time to time. No reliability yet.

No Internet yet. Still getting the same erro message:
Error: Incomplete
setup.
Please check your
network settings.


Handera LanStatus
I tried the Handera LanStatus prc and sometimes it gives me all the number other times it misses the DNS numbers.
This application only confirms that my settings are correct.

Win-Hand
It doesn't work with my AOL on because it gets my dynamic IP. When the Internet is off I get the router IP in the Desktop utility. I got it working and it load my desktop slowly. Do you guys have a slow connection? Well, it works for the first 20 seconds and them the green light starts blinking much more slower. When I see that it usually means that I'm not connected and I guess I'm right. In conclusion, it doesn't really work fine.


My final test: I will have to test it at school, but guess what? The Internet is down. Shhhhh...................T

Well, I'm about to believe that my card is damaged. I will confirm this here.


Al

[pelaca]

Originally posted by silencer
WLan has no cables

Some weirds companies on Argentine offers the incredible Internet connection by WIRELESS CABLE (LDMS for us)... a little out of topic but I remember it and sound funny...

[addict]

BClie2K, I'm feeling a lot of your pain w/ my Linksys unit. I was able to hotsync exactly twice, then I moved on to WAN/Internet access. Once I got that, Hotsync went away - no idea why.

Currently, I can run fine with everything on auto & DHCP (sorry, not using AOL), but WEP if F'ing everything up for me (see Wireless forum if you think you can help, I'm trying to keep new threads on-topic).

If you get things figured out PLEASE post!

[n2ifp]

Originally posted by oneeyesquare
Some enterprising uber-geek should write a comprehensive manual...

Additionally I believe a better WiFi driver is needed for the Clie too! 

[n2ifp]

Originally posted by silencer
WLan has no cables

He-he, there's one in every crowd:D!

My WAP still needs a power cable and an Ethernet cable, so it's not exactly wireless...:rolleyes:

[n2ifp]

Originally posted by addict
BClie2K, I'm feeling a lot of your pain w/ my Linksys unit. I was able to hotsync exactly twice, then I moved on to WAN/Internet access. Once I got that, Hotsync went away - no idea why.

Currently, I can run fine with everything on auto & DHCP (sorry, not using AOL), but WEP if F'ing everything up for me (see Wireless forum if you think you can help, I'm trying to keep new threads on-topic).

If you get things figured out PLEASE post!

If the WEP key is wrong, you won't connect at all. I use 128 bit HEX key and HEX is what the Linksys needs IF YOU USE a WEP key. I read that on the Linksys support site. The WEP key is something that can be enabled later on, once everything is working.

[n2ifp]

Originally posted by BClie2k

Your attachment looks familiar.


Do you guys use your WL100 with your MS inserted. Or do you run applications like NetFront for the MS together with the WL100 card.

I heard someone saying that the WL100 might not work.

My status goes like this:

HotSynch works fine from time to time. No reliability yet.

No Internet yet. Still getting the same erro message:
Error: Incomplete
setup.
Please check your
network settings. 

Al

My memory stick is always in and the apps are run from the MS. The WL100 driver of course is in RAM.

In preferences, after you connect, you can view the network log for these settings


Service name:
Local IP address:
Gateway address:
DNS addresses: There is usually two DNS's displayed
You can also ping and do other stuff.


I have had the following error just after restoring from a hard reset, but then I don't see it anymore after the initial access. 

Error: Incomplete setup.
Please check your
network settings. 

[n2ifp]

Originally posted by oneeyesquare
Cable. WIFI hotsync no worky, but I that's possibley a software firewall issue. All the settings are right, didn't want to fool around setting everything manually. I have some fear I'll "break" it or blow it's "mo-jo" esp. after reading all the nightmare stories!!!!Not real concerned about that feature unless I decide to put the cradle on my nightstand for recharging for the night (save that cold trip to the computer desk and the risk of waking up my light-sleeping wife!!!)

I do know that the Windows XP firewall will block a WiFi HotSync if the settings aren't correct, but I never tried it as I don't use the firewall.

I have yet to figure out how to charge my Clie via WiFi though...

[addict]

I could connect using just the passphrase, but couldn't get to the WAN.
I'll try to use the hex value....SUCCESS!

Well, I now have WAN access, but my Network Log is telling me strange things. Upon 1st connection, my DNS was set to my Gateway/RouterIP. Upon disconned/reconnect, my DNS looks right, but now my Gateway is 0.0.0.0. Both of these occurred w/ all Advanced Settings=Auto.

I'll see if it stays working, Thanks!!!

[BClie2k]

Ok Here is day 3 results on my AOL/DSL/Linksys/WL100 status.

I exchanged my WL100 for a new card. Then I stopped by Starbucks to drink a cup of coffee and log into their LAN. I used the Handera LanStatus. To tell you the truth I had no trust on the LANstatus prc, but I said what the heck. So it detected their IP, Gateway and DNS. GREAT..! I knew something smelled good. So I tried to connect my NetFront and went to
www.t-mobile.com/hotspot and guess what it worked. It was nice and smooth. I was about to sign up for the one day free access, but I wasn't feeling like using it. I went back home and to my surprise my Hotsynch was fast and smooth. I was happy finally. Then I tried Win-Hand and to my surprise, it worked more than fine. I was able to access my PC files from my bathroom.

Now the only thing that is still not working is my Internet connection. Anybody has AOL working with a WL100?

I guess that is the question know. If you guys have heard of anyone saying that they got to make it work even though they don't say how. Please let me know.

I'm going to call Linksys and tell them that I feel there is something wrong with my wireless access.


Al

[BClie2k]

Originally posted by accessfu
First I have to thank all of you for creating a clie resource that certainly for me has been much more helpful than the Sony web site. I have read and attempted to carry out the suggestions for connecting my NX70 with the Sony wireless lan card to my home computer with LinkSys wireless router and AOL DSL connection. The card seems to establish a connection with the router, but I am unable to connect to the internet. I'm not sure what specific number I need to be plugging in for "gateway address, primarDNS, secondaryDNS, etc" If anyone has any suggestions, I would appreciate it - Thanks.

Accessfu,

You have the same configuration as I have. Did you get your gateway address? You can get it by going to your IE and typing 192.168.1.1. Then just type admin as your password. After that click on status and you will get all or more information that you need to set up your WL100. If you don't see a DNS number it means that you may have the wrong setting for your router. Let me know if you got this. I know this is a late reply, but could you tell me how is it going? Did you get it to work?

Al

[BClie2k]

Originally posted by BClie2k

I think it has something to do with the DNS. I am not sure how AOL handles DNS, but I heard it is TTL something like Time To Live. I think meaning that it gets new DNS everytime it logs in. So how to solve this. Any ideas? Should I change anything in my Linksys router or anything?


I am semi-right on that. Now I know how to get my DNS for AOL. You can't image how much you learn when you are in trouble.





Error: Incomplete
setup.
Please check your
network settings.


I still haven't solve this mystery. It is driving me crazy.

I want to add that after getting tech support from Linksys they I learned that if I ping my WL100 it looks like the connection is fine.
After connecting my card I typed the following on my DOS prompt:

>ping 192.168.1.101

and after that it showed all the packets that were sent/received.

I guess my WL100 is connected to the LAN, but NetFront and other programs don't want to get the Internet.

Any ideas?

Al

[Perputing]

this thread may be of help. Larry (n2ifp) was of great assistance here, and the other guys also.

http://www.cliesource.com/forums/sh...light=perputing

[n2ifp]

Originally posted by BClie2k


I am semi-right on that. Now I know how to get my DNS for AOL. You can't image how much you learn when you are in trouble.



[B]

I still haven't solve this mystery. It is driving me crazy.

I want to add that after getting tech support from Linksys they I learned that if I ping my WL100 it looks like the connection is fine.
After connecting my card I typed the following on my DOS prompt:

>ping 192.168.1.101

and after that it showed all the packets that were sent/received.

I guess my WL100 is connected to the LAN, but NetFront and other programs don't want to get the Internet.

Any ideas?

Al

Hi Al!

Sorry to hear your still having issues. Do I understand that the Sony card was defective also?

I approached the wireless thing as a two step process, first get connected to the LAN, which you have, and then get connected to the WAN, in which you haven't. I can only add that the Gateway and DNS addresses are what steers your Clie towards the internet. Once you get that figured out, you'll be in business. Since I am AOL challenged, I don't know if it's feasable to do.

The Gateway was my router IP, the same one I'd use to access it from my PC's web browser. The DNS's I eventually determined through the wireless log. It appears to me that the DNS addressing is the crux of your problem, but that is just my gut feeling, and I have a big gut:)!

[n2ifp]

Al, BTW, now you can see why I have over 1700 posts :)...

[addict]

If you can't get internet access, it's likely due to misconfigured DNS setting. After you get connected, go to your Prefs > Network screen and do a Command+V (view network log). Your IP, gateway, and DNS should show up. If your DNS entries are blank, then you may have to manually define them in Advanced Settings. Use the values that show up in your Router admins "Status" page.

[n2ifp]

Originally posted by addict
If you can't get internet access, it's likely due to misconfigured DNS setting. After you get connected, go to your Prefs > Network screen and do a Command+V (view network log). Your IP, gateway, and DNS should show up. If your DNS entries are blank, then you may have to manually define them in Advanced Settings. Use the values that show up in your Router admins "Status" page.

The problem Al is dealing with is AOL with DSL, not even sure it can work.

[BClie2k]

Originally posted by n2ifp


Hi Al!

Sorry to hear your still having issues. Do I understand that the Sony card was defective also?


Yes, it was defective. The problem wa that after been connected and simi-work for 5 to 10 seconds, the card would just stop transmiting/receiving. I got a brand new one, which seems to be working fine for LAN only. WAN is still a challenge.



I approached the wireless thing as a two step process, first get connected to the LAN, which you have, and then get connected to the WAN, in which you haven't. I can only add that the Gateway and DNS addresses are what steers your Clie towards the internet. Once you get that figured out, you'll be in business. Since I am AOL challenged, I don't know if it's feasable to do.



You are right. The only way to get DNS numbers is to make my WAN settings as PPPoE and choos America Online as the user name. Then, under status is says connected



The Gateway was my router IP, the same one I'd use to access it from my PC's web browser. The DNS's I eventually determined through the wireless log. It appears to me that the DNS addressing is the crux of your problem, but that is just my gut feeling, and I have a big gut:)!

I'm going to post some pictures of my settings on my next post. By the way Linksys told me to play with different IP addresses going from 192.168.1.2 to 192.168.1.99 I told them my router says it starts at 192.168.1.100 and they say it was fine. I don't think this is right.

Al

[BClie2k]

Linksys setup

Why my attachment is now showing?

Al

[BClie2k]

status

http://www.cliesource.com/forums/attachment.php?s=&attachmentid=1042

[BClie2k]

DHCP

[BClie2k]

For some reason my post doesn't show my images even though I see it in the edit mode.  Can somebody fix that and let me know how they did it?


Thanks,

 

Al