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*YellowRose*
04-30-2003, 06:49 AM
I'm excited! Can you tell? What a wonderful thing to wake up to!

It's in the icon setup . . .

:D (ver. 3.10)

sebring
04-30-2003, 06:52 AM
The following are changes coming in ZL v3.10

1) Added ability to specify the icon alignment.
2) Added basic compatibility to the system attention indicator(alarm
reminder).
3) Added option for disabling fast access drop down menu by tapping
the blank region of the tabs.
4) Fixed conflict with V3BHack 0.3 when displaying ZLauncher's icons.
5) Misc bug-fixes.

Silverback
04-30-2003, 07:04 AM
Yup, got mine this A.M. also.

These guys never rest do they? ;)

hogs
04-30-2003, 07:05 AM
Originally posted by sebring
The following are changes coming in ZL v3.10
4) Fixed conflict with V3BHack 0.3 when displaying ZLauncher's icons.

Hum... By the way, V3BHack has also been recently updated to release 0.5. Hope no additional incompatibilities will be created..

sebring
04-30-2003, 07:17 AM
Doesn't appear so, I had no problems with V3BHack 0.5 and the previous version of ZL. Since installing the 3.10b, I still haven't seen any problem. I never used V3BHack 0.3.

swflabs
04-30-2003, 07:32 AM
Hi,

i registered ZLauncher through Handango last month, - when going to handango, even Palmgear or ZZTechs, - theres only v3.01b...

How do i get this updated version or do i have to purchase it again (?!) Are ZLauncher's updates free?

thank you,

Mark

sebring
04-30-2003, 07:39 AM
Originally posted by swflabs
Hi,

i registered ZLauncher through Handango last month, - when going to handango, even Palmgear or ZZTechs, - theres only v3.01b...

How do i get this updated version or do i have to purchase it again (?!) Are ZLauncher's updates free?

thank you,

Mark

Updates to ZL are free. This version is a beta version only sent to those they have selected to beta test it. The final release usually follows pretty quickly, since ZZTechs rarely has any major problems in their beta versions of ZLauncher.

Dxomas
04-30-2003, 07:47 AM
Zlauncher updates are all free.
This is a Beta version. If you'd like to be a beta tester, all you have to do is email ZZTech.

swflabs
04-30-2003, 07:49 AM
First of all thanks for this quick resonse!!! How do i get informed about updates? Do i get them from handango or ZZTechs, or do i have to search day by day for new versions?

I registeres some apps at Palmgear (YiShow/Agendus/SilverScreen/MegaLauncher/BtToggle/... )*aargh* but for YiShow i got an uid and password to download the latest build but not for the other apps, - and never receive mails for new versions :o(

Lucky that updates are free, - would be shocked if ZZTechs handle it like iambic and their Agendus...

Thank you,

Mark

jamester
04-30-2003, 07:50 AM
I love ZLauncher. What amazing support. I'm simply stunned by these guys. Never spent a better $12. ;)

J

*YellowRose*
04-30-2003, 07:50 AM
When using left mode, 2 x 13, I'm seeing icon title overlapping some of my bigger icons . . . before I let ZZTech know, is anybody else seeing anything like this?

swflabs
04-30-2003, 07:52 AM
Yes, its really great, - but its very hard to find themes/skins that run on my Tungsten :o(, - even if the resolution and color-depths is as my old T675...

Thanky,

Mark

Dxomas
04-30-2003, 07:52 AM
All updates from ZZtech will be emailed to you as a registered user.

Here is the email address if you'd be interested in Beta testing....
www.zztechs.com

*YellowRose*
04-30-2003, 07:53 AM
Originally posted by swflabs
First of all thanks for this quick resonse!!! How do i get informed about updates? Do i get them from handango or ZZTechs, or do i have to search day by day for new versions? Hi Mark! ZZTech mails out their beta. You won't find them for download. All you have to do is email them and ask to be a beta tester. They won't respond to your email (usually) but you should just get the next beta release.

:D

Dxomas
04-30-2003, 07:58 AM
I'm not seeing that problem YellowRose....

LaStigmata
04-30-2003, 08:01 AM
Now what would you like to see ZZTECH make there launcher do?

Go ahead sit around all day and dream up something.

Possibilites could include

*Cutting the grass
*Walking the dog
*Making your meals
*Cleaning your house

Seriously though, the quys at ZZTECH are amazing. Got my beta today and it seems ROCK SOLID as normal.

The latest skins will work as well without any updates.

Hats off to ZZTECH and ZLauncher once again.

Dxomas
04-30-2003, 08:02 AM
I just went to bottom bar setup. And I've lost my top bar.... Topbar is now just a white stripe....????

LaStigmata
04-30-2003, 08:04 AM
Originally posted by *YellowRose*
When using left mode, 2 x 13, I'm seeing icon title overlapping some of my bigger icons . . . before I let ZZTech know, is anybody else seeing anything like this?

I do not have this on my NR70V. Are you using Zoomed Icons?

Dxomas
04-30-2003, 08:05 AM
Yup everytime I go to bottom bar setup, I lose my Topbar.

I can get my topbar back by turning off toggle top bar in topbar setup..... Hmmmm

sebring
04-30-2003, 08:07 AM
Originally posted by swflabs
First of all thanks for this quick resonse!!! How do i get informed about updates? Do i get them from handango or ZZTechs, or do i have to search day by day for new versions?

I registeres some apps at Palmgear (YiShow/Agendus/SilverScreen/MegaLauncher/BtToggle/... )*aargh* but for YiShow i got an uid and password to download the latest build but not for the other apps, - and never receive mails for new versions :o(

Lucky that updates are free, - would be shocked if ZZTechs handle it like iambic and their Agendus...

Thank you,

Mark

ZZTech has always emailed me about updates. If they have your current email address, they will also email you, I'm sure. It will also be discussed here, or you can periodically check ZZTechs web site.

Dxomas
04-30-2003, 08:07 AM
Anyone else....??

LaStigmata
04-30-2003, 08:08 AM
Dxomas, I do not have that problem. I have tried it 3 or 4 times now but seems to work fine here.

Dxomas
04-30-2003, 08:09 AM
This is the first glitch I've had in any Beta versions I've tested..... Must be my time...

sebring
04-30-2003, 08:11 AM
Originally posted by LaStigmata


I do not have this on my NR70V. Are you using Zoomed Icons?

Not having that problem on my NR either and I am using Zoomed icons (very bad eyes).

LaStigmata
04-30-2003, 08:11 AM
Originally posted by Dxomas
Anyone else....??

I have tried it with and without trans. ui and still not seeing your glitch.

Dxomas
04-30-2003, 08:14 AM
Now I can't get it to happen, I"ve tried three four times, and nothing....

I know I didn't dream the topbar disappearing.....????

I'll keep trying... What?

sebring
04-30-2003, 08:17 AM
Originally posted by Dxomas
Yup everytime I go to bottom bar setup, I lose my Topbar.

I can get my topbar back by turning off toggle top bar in topbar setup..... Hmmmm

I haven't had that problem, but I don't have a top bar toggle arrow anymore. It toggles, as long as the box is checked in the top bar setup, but the arrow is invisible.

Dxomas
04-30-2003, 08:17 AM
Ok I think I might have this. It happened again. I think it might be in toggle on or off in topbar setup....?

Dxomas
04-30-2003, 08:21 AM
Ok..... It happens when I do anything in bottom bar setup. My screen doesn't refresh and leaves a white bar on top where my topbar should be.....

Dxomas
04-30-2003, 08:24 AM
Yup, thats it, screen doesn't refresh for bottom bar setup, leaving a white bar where my topbar used to be.....

LaStigmata
04-30-2003, 08:30 AM
I still can't get it to happen. I have tried every combo I think.

Mr Sheen
04-30-2003, 08:39 AM
Originally posted by Dxomas
Yup everytime I go to bottom bar setup, I lose my Topbar.

I can get my topbar back by turning off toggle top bar in topbar setup..... Hmmmm

Trying as much as I can on my NR70V w/zoomed icons, can't get no satisfaction!!! Sorry can't reproduce your problem,

Sheen
:cool:

ClieMarty
04-30-2003, 10:00 AM
Here are the changes:

1) Added ability to specify the icon alignment.
2) Added basic compatibility to the system attention indicator(alarm reminder).
3) Added option for disabling fast access drop down menu by tapping
the blank region of the tabs.
4) Fixed conflict with V3BHack 0.3 when displaying ZLauncher's icons.
5) Misc bug-fixes.

I was especially waiting for the icon alignment option. I keep you posted how it works.

ClieMarty
04-30-2003, 11:00 AM
OK, here come three screenshots. Don't panic if you can't see them in first place. The mods might need to approve them.

ClieMarty
04-30-2003, 11:06 AM
This screen shows the big (standard) icons. You can align the icons left, center or right - or not at all of course. The setup is quite easy. You also define the icons per colums (3 in this sample) and the number rows which should be displayed on the screen (3 in this sample). If there would have been a 10th icon in the tab, zLauncher would have displayed a scrollbar but no additional row of icons! Of course the scrollbar would take you to the 10th icon then.

ClieMarty
04-30-2003, 11:08 AM
Here's the list view. Settings in the sample: 1 column, 6 rows. There is some room for improvements as the program names get truncated whereas there would be enough space to show them complete.

ClieMarty
04-30-2003, 11:15 AM
And finally the settings screen.

IMHO the alignment option is great as it gives you the option to use all kinds of wallpapers (even quite colorfull ones) and just use some white space or gradient to white for proper display of your icons

What I would like to see in the final or perhaps in future releases:

> possibility to also set a top margin and a side margin in the form of a number of pixels. this margin could help to i.e. center some icons also vertically. IMHO there should be some more space between the top bar and the icons.

> this might need a lot of work but I would be glad to have the option for tab-specific settings of wallpaper and icons giving me let's say a nice main tab with a fine picture and only the most important apps as big icons as well as i.e. a control tab with all the tools and ultilites in listed view for easy access.

now if anybody might post a reply? otherwise i have the uneasing feeling that i'm starting to talk to myself

itommy
04-30-2003, 11:41 AM
sounds great. I switched to z from yishow cause of the CF driver, but really miss pulling my icons to the left so i can have pic of my hot wife on the right.

how do i this beta?

volcanopele
04-30-2003, 12:10 PM
Great beta but I am having one issue. The quicklaunch is slow to appear. It takes almost 4 seconds to appear after tapping on the button or holding the back button. Before this beta, it appeared almost instantly.

I have an NR70V.

ClieMarty
04-30-2003, 12:13 PM
with 3.10 you should be able to see your wife again ;-) the only thing is that currently there is no top margin, so the icons are still kind of glued to the top bar. but once so set 2 or 3 colums and align them left there should be enough space.

you may get the beta from zztechs if you send them a mail; as they are in holidays beginning of may i would say we might need to wait for the final till the middle of may. but the beta works without any problem on my nx.

*YellowRose*
04-30-2003, 12:34 PM
Originally posted by sebring
Not having that problem on my NR either and I am using Zoomed icons (very bad eyes). Yes, I'm using Zoomed icons, and I'm using the Smallest bold font. (Left option 2x13 icons)

Tixx
04-30-2003, 12:52 PM
Originally posted by *YellowRose*
Yes, I'm using Zoomed icons, and I'm using the Smallest bold font. (Left option 2x13 icons)

That whole left and right thing did not work as it just pushed my icons to the top. Also I lost my categories:(

Tixx
04-30-2003, 12:54 PM
Oh, I put on the wrong file and then writing over it did not fix the problem. My Fault

dunn
04-30-2003, 01:09 PM
check the icons setting^^
i love Zlauncher...and YiS may get retire..

GANZ
04-30-2003, 01:52 PM
Originally posted by LaStigmata
I still can't get it to happen. I have tried every combo I think.

me either...top bar is fine...so far no problems w/3.10

Dxomas
04-30-2003, 02:25 PM
I'll try to load 3.10 from home tonight to see if that makes a differance.

I did report it to ZZtech.

Hope they have a great May holiday.

Thanks all... What!

Mr Sheen
04-30-2003, 02:26 PM
Originally posted by volcanopele
Great beta but I am having one issue. The quicklaunch is slow to appear. It takes almost 4 seconds to appear after tapping on the button or holding the back button. Before this beta, it appeared almost instantly.

I have an NR70V.

Same machine, same problem

Sheen

LaStigmata
04-30-2003, 03:13 PM
I to have noticed this, also same machine.

sebring
04-30-2003, 03:25 PM
Originally posted by Mr Sheen


Same machine, same problem

Sheen

Ditto, Quicklaunch ain't so quick anymore.:(

It is afer all a beta, but something they should address before final release.

ClieMarty
04-30-2003, 03:33 PM
well, there are some screenshots online now. you may see them on page 3 of this thread.

volcanopele
04-30-2003, 03:34 PM
what's the email address for reporting a beta problem?

Tixx
04-30-2003, 03:47 PM
Originally posted by volcanopele
what's the email address for reporting a beta problem?

I just sent it to the one they send out with ZZTECHS [zlauncher@zztechs.com]. They always reply.:)

volcanopele
04-30-2003, 04:08 PM
thanks tixx. I didn't know if there was a dedicated bug report address

breakfastchef
04-30-2003, 04:24 PM
Quick reminder - ZZTECHS will be on vacation from 1 May through 5 May. There will be a delay in responding to any beta reports.

Tixx
04-30-2003, 04:25 PM
Originally posted by breakfastchef
Quick reminder - ZZTECHS will be on vacation from 1 May through 5 May. There will be a delay in responding to any beta reports.

Send those e-mails to them Quick!!!*LOL*:D

cbulock
04-30-2003, 04:51 PM
Originally posted by Dxomas
I just went to bottom bar setup. And I've lost my top bar.... Topbar is now just a white stripe....????

Your not crazy, I went to bottom bar setup, didn't change anything and now my top bar is a white stripe. Plus, it doens't even work. I've exited ZLauncher and reopened, it came back, went back to bottom bar setup and now the top bar is gone again. After trying it a few times, it seems to only do that when the bottom bar is hidden.

Yoyoman412
04-30-2003, 05:33 PM
Unfortunatly, the icon alignment on a low res device just look way too scrunched up and way too closed together. Some of the icons overlap other icons while some icons overlap the scroll bar. Just way too buggy when trying to use the icon alignment. Ne one else here with a low res device have similair problems?
I e-mailed Zlauncher about it, hope they are able to fix things up.

Jonathan

GenoG
04-30-2003, 05:35 PM
can some1 post a link 2 download 3.10?

volcanopele
04-30-2003, 06:06 PM
the ZLauncher beta tests are closed betas so there is no link to download it from. However, they have a pretty open policy as far as their beta list is concerned so you can probably shoot them an email [zlauncher@zztechs.com] and you will be added. Be patient though as the only conformation that you were added is when you receive the next beta which won't be until at least May 6th.

Sid
04-30-2003, 06:40 PM
I don't remember seeing it mentioned, so I guess this feature still has not been incorporated: the ability to set each Tab's view separately, icons on one, list on another, etc.
Please let me know. Thanks :)

Tixx
04-30-2003, 06:54 PM
Originally posted by Sid
I don't remember seeing it mentioned, so I guess this feature still has not been incorporated: the ability to set each Tab's view separately, icons on one, list on another, etc.
Please let me know. Thanks :)

I like that idea.

ClieMarty
04-30-2003, 07:29 PM
zzTechs should be aware of that. was requested by a lot of people I think. still might take a while as it would IMHO take a lot of work to incorporate that in the current version. the icon settings would need to go as submenu into the tab settings. i myself would like to be even able to set different wallpapers/background colors for different tabs.

*YellowRose*
04-30-2003, 08:27 PM
Originally posted by Sid
I don't remember seeing it mentioned, so I guess this feature still has not been incorporated: the ability to set each Tab's view separately, icons on one, list on another, etc.
Please let me know. Thanks :) I've requested that feature myself . . . :)

tanker_bob
04-30-2003, 09:37 PM
I cannot duplicate the white band replacing the top bar, but there are definitely refresh issues with the top bar. Whenever the bottom bar setup screen is displayed and closed, a hidden top bar is actually activated even though it may not be displayed. The text displays (e.g., memory, card space, etc.) are displayed in place over whatever is supposed to be there (tabs, app icons) , but the icons and category are not. However, tap on a spot where a top bar icon would be and its function would be executed as if the top bar were in view.

I already emailed this one to ZZTechs. It's related to a refresh bug from 3.01 they fixed in this beta.

sebring
04-30-2003, 09:53 PM
Originally posted by sebring


I haven't had that problem, but I don't have a top bar toggle arrow anymore. It toggles, as long as the box is checked in the top bar setup, but the arrow is invisible.

I discovered the cause of my invisible top bar toggle arrow. Somehow I had reverted back to an older Aquawood skin. Installing the latest Aquawood skin solved it.

I think I now know what Yellowrose was talking about with the text running over the icons. It does occur on my NR also. Apparently a spacing issue.

n2ifp
04-30-2003, 11:39 PM
I love being able to adjust my icon positions now. ZL just keeps getting better. BTW, I am not a tab man, I hate tabs :)!

n2ifp
04-30-2003, 11:59 PM
So far no bottom or top bar issues on my NX70.

Using the latest Copper Deck II Theme

No problem with Icons or text.

No refresh issues

Quick Launch is instant.

I am happy :)!

Unregistered
05-01-2003, 02:25 AM
"BTW, I am not a tab man, I hate tabs !"

You have lots of time to scroll I guess!

*YellowRose*
05-01-2003, 07:19 AM
Originally posted by sebring
I think I now know what Yellowrose was talking about with the text running over the icons. It does occur on my NR also. Apparently a spacing issue. Good. Thank you for letting me know! I thought I was losing it . . . I did send them an email about it . . .

*YellowRose*
05-01-2003, 07:20 AM
Originally posted by Unregistered
"BTW, I am not a tab man, I hate tabs !"

You have lots of time to scroll I guess! Actually, I don't have tabs either, no scrolling involved (I hide the 'ALL' category ~ not a helpful item for me) . . . I do have my icons 'sorted' pretty good, so I don't have more than a page full on one tab. It works for me.

rldunn
05-01-2003, 09:47 AM
One other small change in this version is that if you have the text/graphic display of memory, it displays it in KB now. If you have pure text, it still displays it as MB.

Tixx
05-01-2003, 10:18 AM
Originally posted by rldunn
One other small change in this version is that if you have the text/graphic display of memory, it displays it in KB now. If you have pure text, it still displays it as MB.

I didn't even nothice that one. I requested this one at one point. Go ZL:)

DV8
05-01-2003, 10:39 AM
Just wondered if you can now view how much space is left on the CF Card. I noticed in 3.01 that if I mask the MS that you don't see how much room is left on the CF Card.

Dxomas
05-01-2003, 11:14 AM
I still have the white bar problem. I have both of the new versions of Poly and CopperDeck.

If the bottom bar is hidden then I get the white stripe. If the Bottom bar is NOT hidden there is no problem.... What?

*YellowRose*
05-01-2003, 11:18 AM
You know, there was one cool thing I really liked about LauncherX (WHO THREW THAT ROTTEN TOMATO???).

I liked that all the new apps I installed went to my main screen instead of landing in unfiled.

I finally figured out how to change that. I renamed my 'unfiled' to 'Main' . . . ZL still sees it as 'unfiled' . . . I have my most used apps there, and all my new apps go there, so they're easy to get to. Of course, most usually get filed elsewhere (an app has to work REALLY hard to be permanent on my main tab!), but I still thought it was neat.

:D

briandavis
05-01-2003, 12:01 PM
Originally posted by *YellowRose*
When using left mode, 2 x 13, I'm seeing icon title overlapping some of my bigger icons . . . before I let ZZTech know, is anybody else seeing anything like this?
I actually have that happen with the Reset Emulator icon in v3.01.

volcanopele
05-01-2003, 12:20 PM
Some icons are larger than standard size and do overlap the text. The built-in launcher, at least on my NR70V, cuts off the bottom of those icons so that they display standard size. ZLauncher does not.

rldunn
05-01-2003, 01:27 PM
Originally posted by *YellowRose*
You know, there was one cool thing I really liked about LauncherX (WHO THREW THAT ROTTEN TOMATO???).

I liked that all the new apps I installed went to my main screen instead of landing in unfiled.

I finally figured out how to change that. I renamed my 'unfiled' to 'Main' . . . ZL still sees it as 'unfiled' . . . I have my most used apps there, and all my new apps go there, so they're easy to get to. Of course, most usually get filed elsewhere (an app has to work REALLY hard to be permanent on my main tab!), but I still thought it was neat.

:D Thanks for the tip!! I missed that too from LX!!

rldunn
05-01-2003, 01:32 PM
I'm having a problem changing the tab icons on mine. If I go to the tab icon selector screen and select any of them, it automatically goes to the null icon and can't be changed. It holds previously selected icons just fine as long as you don't try to change them. Any one else seeing this?

dunn
05-01-2003, 01:44 PM
Originally posted by rldunn
I'm having a problem changing the tab icons on mine. If I go to the tab icon selector screen and select any of them, it automatically goes to the null icon and can't be changed. It holds previously selected icons just fine as long as you don't try to change them. Any one else seeing this?

yes you are right, i suffer the same problem.
and i sent zztechs an email reporting this matter.

rldunn
05-01-2003, 01:48 PM
Cool, thanks!! I wonder how many people think you're an ID I made up and think that the last 2 posts are me talking to myself :) Just in case anyone was thinking that, this is some other person, and one with a cool name at that!! :)

Tixx
05-01-2003, 01:51 PM
Originally posted by rldunn
Cool, thanks!! I wonder how many people think you're an ID I made up and think that the last 2 posts are me talking to myself :) Just in case anyone was thinking that, this is some other person, and one with a cool name at that!! :)

We know you just like to talk to yourself:p I have the same problem. I just tried to change icons and it went to the blank box.:(

rldunn
05-01-2003, 01:56 PM
I do like to talk to myself; I just don't like to type to myself :)

For those that get the icon problem, all you have to do is restore the ZLauncherDB file from your backup.

Tixx
05-01-2003, 03:07 PM
Originally posted by rldunn
I do like to talk to myself; I just don't like to type to myself :)

For those that get the icon problem, all you have to do is restore the ZLauncherDB file from your backup.

Which one? The ZLauncherDB, or one of the other many DB's associated with ZL?

Tixx
05-01-2003, 03:08 PM
Oh, I forgot, does that eliminate the problem or just restore them back to the way they were?

breakfastchef
05-01-2003, 03:45 PM
I can confirm a problem with Quicklaunch as well. It takes 2-3 seconds to pop up; it was instantaneous in v3.01. I have alerted ZZTECHS

rldunn
05-01-2003, 03:55 PM
Originally posted by Tixx


Which one? The ZLauncherDB, or one of the other many DB's associated with ZL? It's the file called 'ZLauncherDB'. It doesn't eliminate the problem; only reverts them to the way they were.

kdn102
05-01-2003, 04:11 PM
Originally posted by ClieMarty
...still might take a while as it would IMHO take a lot of work to incorporate...

Naaah, the UI wouldn't even need to be changed.  Any changes to the tab, such as row/col or fonts, would only affect the current tab.  Change tabs and it loads the new values into the property page!  As far as storing it, they would probably have to add a new DB file, indexed by tab.

Tixx
05-01-2003, 04:41 PM
Originally posted by rldunn
It's the file called 'ZLauncherDB'. It doesn't eliminate the problem; only reverts them to the way they were.
Thanks:) I wasn't sure.

Unregistered
05-01-2003, 11:20 PM
Originally posted by rldunn
Cool, thanks!! I wonder how many people think you're an ID I made up and think that the last 2 posts are me talking to myself :) Just in case anyone was thinking that, this is some other person, and one with a cool name at that!! :)

.... ^~^

well, actually, you are you and i am me...
and dunn is my true last name. *~*

ClieMarty
05-03-2003, 08:29 AM
i thought the guys from zztechs would be in holiday? well whatever, i just found beta 2 in the mail. hopefully it will deal with the tab-icon-issue. that was the only strange thing i encountered on mx.

tanker_bob
05-03-2003, 08:33 AM
I started a new thread for the new beta to help ZZTechs find the inputs more easily. Looks like the top bar issues have been fixed.