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teonebello
04-29-2003, 10:57 AM
"The development chief of the Sony PDD (Portable devices division) Yioichi
Tanemura today confirmed an information that already leaked through the net for
some days. "Since the development costs turned out to be mutch bigger than the
wholesale revenues in the PDA market, we see ourself forced to cut research back
to a minimum. Customers don`t need to be afraid though, since we will continue
to offer support to our actual product line.", Taemura said. This is obviously a
pretty criptic statement, but clearly indicates that Sony has no interest in
spending too mutch in the handheld market. This could mean a development stop
for some month or could even go as far as a complete retirement of Sony from any
of its PDA activities, regarded as a big and lossy part of their business. We do
hope that Sony rethinks its attitude, but there are very very dark and heavy
clouds in the sky"

Alistar
04-29-2003, 11:01 AM
Do you have a link to the whole story.

n2ifp
04-29-2003, 11:05 AM
Hmm, very interesting, but not good news :(

Unregistered
04-29-2003, 11:42 AM
Might explain their lack of interest in everyone's cries about customer service and lack of CF driver.

Another good reason, if it is true to look more closely at those new Palms.

OcellNuri
04-29-2003, 03:59 PM
Say it aint so. I'd like to read the whole story as well.

muldermx
04-29-2003, 05:07 PM
where was it poseted? PIC dont have it....

Alejandrico
04-29-2003, 05:23 PM
What? I just bought an PEG-SJ22
Should I have bought a Palm? I don;t think so

Talula
04-29-2003, 05:41 PM
Hmm... without so much as a tiny clue as to where the quote came from I'm pretty suspicious about it's validity.

UZI4U182
04-29-2003, 05:55 PM
I agree with Talula.

Rick 098
04-29-2003, 06:04 PM
Probobly registered to get people to read his thread with false info.

pigburger
04-29-2003, 06:05 PM
I'm leary of cut and pastes that have misspellings, as a rule of thumb, people don't usually spell "much", "mutch". Not once but twice....

OcellNuri
04-29-2003, 06:29 PM
Nice catch pigburger.

nandaiyo
04-29-2003, 06:46 PM
Nice try. There's nobody by the name of "Yioichi Tanemura" @ Sony.

tantousha
04-29-2003, 06:54 PM
Originally posted by nandaiyo
Nice try. There's nobody by the name of "Yioichi Tanemura" @ Sony.

phew...*breathes big sigh of relief!*

n2ifp
04-29-2003, 08:49 PM
Well it's no secret that Sony has been having a short fall these days, so nothing would surprise me.

jedix
04-29-2003, 09:03 PM
If the information had already leaked through the net for some days now, I'm sure we would have already heard about this. No news is good news! :) Fake story!

pigburger
04-29-2003, 09:08 PM
total BS, nice try. Is there even a portable device division? The closest I could find is "Personal and Mobile Products Division", definitely not the same thing....

JackAxe
04-29-2003, 11:53 PM
Pigburger, does your avatar ever get drunk?

<]=)

tantousha
04-29-2003, 11:59 PM
Actually it hasn't really...Sony's handheld shipments have been up, and they've been gaining ground....taking it away from Palm...

Seul
04-30-2003, 04:19 AM
Umm......"mutch"..."criptic?".

I guess journalism standards aren't what they used to be.

:rolleyes:

I'm pretty sure this article is a fake.

Also, I like the last line in this "article."

"We do hope that Sony rethinks its attitude, but there are very very dark and heavy clouds in the sky"

I got a sudden image of Commandant Lassard from the Police Academy movies.

pigburger
04-30-2003, 05:35 AM
Originally posted by JackAxe
Pigburger, does your avatar ever get drunk?

<]=)

There is a reason he has the bigass smile on his face......:)

JackAxe
04-30-2003, 06:33 AM
Your avatar inspires me, I'm going out later this week, because I also would like a bigarse grin on my face.

If only life were so kind to provide us with an endless supply of beer.

<]=)

pigburger
04-30-2003, 07:33 AM
That's what's nice about Boston, we have a bunch of breweries in the area that have tours. On the tours they give out free samples. You haven't lived till you had Sam Adams from the utter...

TechnoCat
05-01-2003, 09:30 PM
Originally posted by pigburger
That's what's nice about Boston, we have a bunch of breweries in the area that have tours. On the tours they give out free samples. You haven't lived till you had Sam Adams from the utter...
Yeah, I was born there and go back regularly. The free samples at the breweries is probably the only way to explain the driving.

Amazingly, there are two Red Hook breweries I know of... one a few miles from me outside Seattle (micro-brew central), and one a few miles from the spot in New Hampshire where my first few years were spent.

benixau
05-02-2003, 06:52 AM
Originally posted by tantousha
Actually it hasn't really...Sony's handheld shipments have been up, and they've been gaining ground....taking it away from Palm...

you know, if sony dropped out of the PDA market i think i would start looking for a digital camera. Sony is for me, what makes it worthwhile to get a PDA in the first palce that is based on PalmOS.

hansschmucker
05-02-2003, 07:01 AM
Originally posted by pigburger
I'm leary of cut and pastes that have misspellings

Seems to become a habbit, doesn't it? Any resemblence of "secret documents" from the current golf war is purely coincidential, of course.

hansschmucker
05-02-2003, 07:14 AM
Nah, Boston. You Americans can't brew beer, it always tastes like if I just cleaned my dishes in it. ;)
Come to Mannheim, Germany and we will treat you with a collection of REALLY GREAT BEERS, from Mannheim, as well as the rest of Germany. Cheers

TechnoCat
05-02-2003, 08:25 AM
Originally posted by hansschmucker
Nah, Boston. You Americans can't brew beer, it always tastes like if I just cleaned my dishes in it. ;)
Come to Mannheim, Germany and we will treat you with a collection of REALLY GREAT BEERS, from Mannheim, as well as the rest of Germany. Cheers I don't tend to go into Germany, but I was in Zurich three times in the last year. (For Americans not clear on the geography, that's a german-ish town in Switzerland, while Geneva is a french-ish town in Switzerland. For any Swiss listening in, I didn't say any of that; Switzerland is a marvel unto itself.) It's better beer than in England, but still largely mass-produced pablum.

If you gauge American beer by the mass brands, you miss out. If you gauge it by what you can get at the airport or in Kansas, you miss out. It would be like making a judgement about all German cars based on the best-selling VW Golf.

There are a few hotbeds of microbrews in the U.S. Those places are where the good beer is.

TechnoCat
05-02-2003, 08:30 AM
Originally posted by jedix
If the information had already leaked through the net for some days now, I'm sure we would have already heard about this. No news is good news! :) Fake story!
Ummm... Jedix... how good at recent history are you? Seems to me a lot of people bashed the guy who, in the beginning of April, announced the CF drivers for the NX-series because of lack of confirmation, lack of proof, etc.

And that wasn't the first topic to flame the message-carrier, accusing them of all sorts of heresies, and then be proven wrong. Look over past rumours of upcoming machines. Y'all are doing a piss-poor job distinguishing between prescience and crap.

Your assumption shows that there is an undercurrent of immaturity on this board that just won't grow up. How will you apologize, make it up to him, if it turns out in a few weeks that he was right? Answer: You won't, you'll just forget the whole thing. But that's hardly fair considering the hurt feelings your brash and caustic response may have caused.

PalmDoc
05-02-2003, 08:50 AM
I will not flame this guy and say it's absolutely not true, but let's look at the recent, real, public statements from Sony regarding their PDA business for some insight...

Sony just invested MILLIONS (I believe it was $20 Million) in PalmSource. Some have even suggested that Sony could acquire PalmSource when its spin-off from Palm Solutions Group is complete.

The president or CEO of Sony (can't rememember which) just recently said, in public, and carried by the media, that he LOVES the Palm OS, and would continue to invest in this division.

Sony's PDA business has grown, and grown quickly. They have been back and forth with HP for two years now fighting for the #2 spot in hardware sales. This is an area where Sony has proven that its vision and leadership can create results, so why scale it back?

Yes, Sony has had disappointing earnings for the last quarter...but they are still a profitable company. Their biggest decreases in revenue came from lackluster PC and laptop sales, and in the entertainment divisions, especially music.

This may be true, but just seems so unlikely...

madkins007
05-02-2003, 09:03 AM
Originally posted by teonebello
"The development chief of the Sony PDD (Portable devices division) Yioichi
Tanemura

No such person or division, according to other posters.

"mutch"... "we see ourself forced"... "criptic" statement..., "mutch" (again)...&nbsp;

Odd to have so many misspellings and such poor sentence structure, even from a Japanese source (dig at most translations, not the people or language)

This could mean a development stop for some month&nbsp;or could even go as far as a complete retirement of Sony from any of its PDA activities, regarded as a big and lossy part of their business. We do hope that Sony rethinks its attitude, but there are very very dark and heavy clouds in the sky"

'For some month'? 'lossy part of the business'? This short section is worse than 'All your bases are belong to us'!

TechnoCat
05-02-2003, 09:28 AM
Originally posted by madkins007
Originally posted by teonebello
"The development chief of the Sony PDD (Portable devices division) Yioichi Tanemura
No such person or division, according to other posters. I'm not intending to defend the original poster - I don't necessarily believe the statements either - but you guys are like piranahs! You go for blood without thinking!

Step back and analyze this for a sec. First off, there were enough spelling errors etc that I could see it being a retyping from memory or from audio notes - i.e. second or third hand.

If you accept that, then relying the fact that there's "no such person" is more indicative of shallow cognitive skills than on the accuracy of the message.

Here's the thing: There are lots of Tanemuras at Sony. It's not an entirely uncommon name. Liberalize the spelling a bit and you get even more.

But... do a google search on "Yioichi". Don't tie it to Sony or the surname, just the one word. Not a single solitary hit! That pretty much guarantees it's a typo... it just isn't a name, even less so than flumph (which I made up but searched on and got 317 hits for!) or "glert" (183 hits, though "glertsky" turned up zero.) A real but uncommon name, such as "Eiden" gives tens of thousands of hits.

Maybe the guy is full of crap, but y'all are like a lynch mob; you don't wait for evidence or think about it, you simply string him up and, if it turns out later you were wrong, you ignore the past and repeat. Sheesh!