View Full Version : Is there any reason(s) one should change to PPC instead of using Palm OS?
Dropzone
04-28-2003, 12:48 PM
This is interesting. Some of my friends tell me PPC seems a better deal compared to Palm OS, due to its multimedia capablitlites. Wonder how you guys think about this? Comments pls. :)
dorr1
04-28-2003, 01:04 PM
What multimedia capabilities? Play music, movies, or games? My 665 does all that, and still fits in my pocket!
RNclie
04-28-2003, 01:19 PM
No.
Alistar
04-28-2003, 01:32 PM
I agree, the Clie's have great multimedia capability. Admittedly some of the palm devices aren't that great, mono speaker comes to mind, but Sony develops these things with multimedia in mind. It is not called a Personal Entertainment Organizer for nothing.
Mastermind
04-28-2003, 01:38 PM
I would try out a PPC before switching. There are games on the PPC that just won't work due to the lack of a d-pad on the Clie. If you can borrow one from a friend play Turjah 1-2, Snails, Nester the nes emulator, Everquest.
As for video you have a lot more options with a PPC than Clie, Pocket Divx, Windows Media Player, PocketTV and the atrocious Real Player.
With audio try PocketPlayer and Winampaq that supports ogg and wma formats. Ogg files are so much smaller than mp3 while sounding just as good. Btw you can also use winamp 2 skins on winampaq.
If you can find a good deal on a ppc why switch just use both when you feel the need.
Dropzone
04-28-2003, 02:37 PM
That is nice choice, if I had the money, I will certainly go for both. =)
yOyOYoo
04-28-2003, 02:44 PM
Yes all of my friends are going PPC, makes me sad =(
PPCs have more fully featured programs and games. Some would call this bloatware, but I really believe that it is more fully featured. I believe with PPCs, its easier to go wireless, as many have CF card slots. Also I beileve the movie watching experience is much more enjoyable on PPCs due to better software and more movie players.
Also, PPCs have larger screens, while the resolution is only 320 x 240 (i think) you have to admit that it is much larger. Even the entry PPCs like the hp1910 has the larger screen. While it is not as many pixels as palm's hi-res (320x320), or sony's hires+ (320x480), its a large screen nonetheless, and for the most part, you won't notice too much of a difference in the pixels.
I'm just really jealous that PPCs, even the cheap entry models all have large screens with collapsable graffiti area, while the only palm models we can get at this time with virtual graffiti (320x480screen) cost an arm and a leg (and please dont bring up the overstock $359 Nx70v that is refurbished)
You can see so much more with the large screens, in terms of data, organization, movies. I just wish palm would make 320x480 screens more standard.
With all this, why keep palm? well for me, palm os is much more intuitive, simple, and easy to use. PPC just seems so complicated to me. And while it maybe more powerful and more fully featured, I don't need these features. Oh yeah, also having to constantly close programs on the PPC is pretty annoying.
I did a lot and lot of thinking about PPC when I was going for the hp1910, but in the end, the simplicity of palm won me over. Oh yeah, so did the excellent keyboard of the TG50.
OcellNuri
04-28-2003, 02:52 PM
What I love about the PalmOS... the only time I "see" the actual operating system is when I'm in Prefs. All other times, I am looking at third party programs. There is no start button always looming in the corner. You don't have to have the same graphics for everything. The diversity of apps on PalmOS always amazes me. We have very very simple apps that have the OS draw everything, but then we have very graphical apps like Picsel Viewer that do things thier own way. The PalmOS just feels a lot more transparent to me than PPC.
hansschmucker
04-28-2003, 02:53 PM
It always depends on what you want.
I have 3 friends and relatives with a black and white / low-res Palm. They all carry around their Palm all the time and take all their notes on that thing as well as managing adresses
I have 2 friends with PocketPCs . One is always telling me how great his PPC is, but for some reason, he always leaves it at home =) , the other one uses it mainly for adresses, since he says "battery life is too short to waste it on multimedia". But, he really uses that thing as it was intended for, just little more.
Well, and there's myself. Carrying around an NX, all the time, playing MP3, which almost consumes no energy, thanks to Sony's screen-off. Watching cartoons like Futurama on the road and playing the occassional game as well as keeping all my notes in my Clié and writing down whatever the teacher says directly in WordSmith (with the integrated keyboard, which naturally isn't as good as the real thing, but pretty close, for the size). Taking photos and clips when going out in the evening and looking at pictures from my big Digicam. And since, I've got no cellphone, I also keep track of all phonenumbers. Admited, that's the feature I use the least =)
Anyway... when looking at the people around me, it seams like all PalmOS users are happy with what the OS has to offer, while half of the PPC users have so little use for that thing, that they leave it at home.
I know, my oppinion is biased, but I get the impression, that people seem more happy with a Palm. A hardcore gamer on the other hand, would probably think different. (The one that uses the PPC for addresses only, actually is. But not on the road)
hansschmucker
04-28-2003, 02:56 PM
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wellsjs
04-28-2003, 04:10 PM
Originally posted by Dropzone
Is there any reason(s) one should change to PPC instead of using Palm OS?Yes, if you want a bulky OS with a much smaller selection of applications and zero freeware, go for it! :eek:
With Sony Clies, you can do all the multi-media you desire! I listen to MP3s all the time on my T665C, and love it. It goes everywhere I do because it slips into my front pants pocket. I don't want anything that won't do that! :) There are some pending Palm OS enhancements I'm looking forward to in my next device, like more RAM and replacable battery, but I'm very pleased with my sweet Clie! ;)
Mastervtec
04-28-2003, 05:24 PM
Only if you feel like turning your ppc over and resetting it about 10 times a day..
kdn102
04-28-2003, 05:47 PM
The only multi-media advantage of the ppc over the clie is the movie player. I am personally not impressed with the size of the files needed on the CLIE to get a decent picture. My coworker has a ppc and he can fit a 2 hour movie into 128MB which is very watchable.
That's the only thing I see that the ppc has over the CLIE.
Spiral
04-28-2003, 05:52 PM
The software selection is still greater in palm, but a lot of it is outdated, there is freeware, you can get a fairly nice PPC for cheap like the Axim to try.
They have more CF support (like accessories), play divx/ogg/wma, which imo is better than kinoma/mp3 (wma and ogg sound better at lower sizes).
Both Palm and PPC have their advantages and disadvantages, u'll probably get a more palm biased rating in a Clié forum.
Wizardb
04-28-2003, 07:10 PM
I've stayed with the Palm OS through several PDA's, my latest being the T665. My daughtrer bought a Toshiba PPC, I think e210 or something like that. Don't like it. It seems difficult to use particularly in loading apps. Back to the windows theory where you need folders for everything. I was not impressed at all. The Palm OS is still the easiest and fastest.
Mastermind
04-28-2003, 08:31 PM
The other day I was in sitting in the rec room at school and an aquaintance of mine asked what happened to my Ipaq as I used to carry it everywhere. I told her I sold it and was about to upgrade to something smaller easier to use and had better battery life.
Needless to say I am rocking my old T415. Not much of an upgrade but it manages my life far better than my Ipaq with its two hour battery life and constant slowdowns. On a side note I saw a refurbished n610 for $99 and I was wondering if it is a good deal. My needs are simple, bejewled and insanaquarium in color hires, ebook reading, avantgo.
Jake K
04-28-2003, 11:57 PM
Originally posted by wellsjs
Yes, if you want a bulky OS with a much smaller selection of applications and zero freeware, go for it! :eek:
With Sony Clies, you can do all the multi-media you desire! I listen to MP3s all the time on my T665C, and love it. It goes everywhere I do because it slips into my front pants pocket. I don't want anything that won't do that! :) There are some pending Palm OS enhancements I'm looking forward to in my next device, like more RAM and replacable battery, but I'm very pleased with my sweet Clie! ;)
Actually, there is tons of free software for the PPC. I haven't needed to buy anything yet for mine, and I play Nes roms, movies, mp3s and all kinds of other games.
If you want a larger, brighter screen for less money, then get a PPC. The resolution isn't as good as a Sony but its still awesome.
yOyOYoo
04-29-2003, 02:25 AM
Can anyone post some good previous Palm OS vs PPC discussions? I know someone in a similar bind, who is not sure which one to pick
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