T-675 (or 665) - Not enough RAM!!!

[Raymond Lin]

I've almost use up the inbuilt RAM in the Clie, AvantGo, Games, Office, it only has like 2MB left in it. It isn't tha tmuch of a problem, it can run all the programs, BUT without more RAM, high res image won't display properly. What I want is to open a high res london underground map in it and read it in Acid Image, it always say there isn't enough RAM and the map is really pixelated when it opens, even when the source fileis sharp.

The thing is that I have a 128MB stick and is there anyway to make the Clie use the memory on the MS as RAM? or install the some of the games/programs into the MS instead of the Clie?

[tanker_bob]

No, you can't use the card as RAM, but you can put your apps and probably most of your data on the card to free RAM for executing programs and data. I have several primers on my website (see sig below) that you may find helpful. My software page has a list of all the programs on my T665C with indications of which are in RAM or ROM and which are on the card.

[rmotfage]

you can also try pidirect to move to your memory stick the read only databases of your non vfs aware applications. That will save lot of RAM.

also try jacksprat and jackflash to move some apps to ROM.

With these tools, you should have enough RAM space for your needs.

[madkins007]

Also, look over what you are running in RAM. I moved most of my games and other less-used apps to MS (without bothering moving the databases), and it helped a TON!

Now, launching off a MS slows things down and adds to battery drain, so I also created a folder on the MS for archived things that I want, but don't really need 'ready'. I put entire games, apps, and so on here and just copy them back to RAM when I want them, then delete them again.

AvantGo is one of the biggest mixed blessings we have. Face it, about 90% of the channels they offer are not something we need to carry around with us. Keep in mind what makes sense to carry, and what makes sense to leave on the 'Net.

Not sure what you are using for 'Office', but most people find they simply do not use many of the parts of an office suite to justify keeping these generally large programs in place in RAM.

Also- do a good clean-up. There is often a TON of documents, images, damaged files, etc. that clutters RAM and can be moved ot MS or deleted altogether. Try using something like 'FileZ' and sorting the files out by size, then determening if you really need them, from largest on down.

[Raymond Lin]

how do you move porgrams into the MS from RAM ?

[Raymond Lin]

double post

[tanker_bob]

Originally posted by Raymond Lin
how do you move porgrams into the MS from RAM ?
I have several primers on my website (see sig) that explain how memory cards work, how to move apps, etc. I think that you will find them helpful.

[Raymond Lin]

thanks, it looks like just hotsync it to the MS rather then the RAM.

[tanker_bob]

That's the easiest way!

[Raymond Lin]

just wondering how much RAM do you leave free usually?

[tanker_bob]

I have about 2.6 MB free at the moment. I try to keep it above 2 MB. My software page lists all the stuff on my T665C and where it is stored. Almost all my apps are on the card. RAM is reserved for data that changes, apps assigned to buttons or that I use every day, or apps that have alarms.

[RNclie]

I know I go through all my apps once in a while and can always find ones that I don't use very much but are taking up RAM. Delete! Now I have room for newer things to try out. I am always fine tuning my Clie. I have ~4mb RAM and 50mb of my 128mb MS free and have tons of medical programs for work, games, MP3's, DB's, you name it. Only keep what you really use on your Clie and keep the others in a file on your harddrive.

[Shadowhuah]

I use YiShow for my RAM needs. The new version hits the stick pretty fast. I have a T-615 so it hits slower than yours. What Yishow does is run programs from the stick by copying it to RAM. Once you are finished using the program it deletes it again. This is handy for games. I run all my games from the stick and this has enabled me to keep my free RAM at over 4.5 meg. Give it a shot! With your 665 you will hardly notice the time lag as it moves your program from the stick.

[tanker_bob]

All launchers that support memory cards do this, including the built-in one, not just YiShow. I personally use ZLauncher, which is cheaper, arguably more powerful, far more customizable, and better supported by its developers.

[xmasday]

can anyone tell me how to install the YIshow or others apps into the MS?? i have been try before to installed them throught the hotsync. but it doesn't work... i mean they did installed in the MS. but the apps is not work. the avantgo also.. so could anyone help me to solve these problem.. thank you.

[xmasday]

is that using the jacksprat and jackflash will works for transfer those apps into the MS??

[xmasday]

can anyone tell me how to install the YIshow or others apps into the MS?? i have been try before to installed them throught the hotsync. but it doesn't work... i mean they did installed in the MS. but the apps is not work. the avantgo also.. so could anyone help me to solve these problem.. thank you.

[tanker_bob]

YiShow and Avantgo will not work correctly from the MS. A launcher must be in RAM to function properly. Avantgo will run from the stick, but will not update throught Hotsync. Both are Palm OS limitations. As for how to use memory sticks, see the primers on my website listed in my sig.

[Unregistered]

Returing to the first question:
"The thing is that I have a 128MB stick and is there anyway to make the Clie use the memory on the MS as RAM? or install the some of the games/programs into the MS instead of the Clie?
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Why not use MSMount, it allow to simulate RAM using a directory
in you MStick

Check this link, i'm using it with a T675c with no problem at all.

http://www.palmgear.com/software/showsoftware.cfm?prodID=29216

"MSMount allow you to access palm applications and databases that are on the Memory Stick or SD card as if they are on the DRAM of Palm device. With this MSMount, an application that is not support Virtual File System can access to Memory Stick or SD card. You can move large databases (ex. dictionary) from DRAM of Palm device into Memory Stick and make much free space on memory."

[tanker_bob]

MS Mount and PiDirect II do about the same thing. The former is free, the latter is not. Some find PiD more stable (like me), but others have no problems with MS Mount.

Still, how effective they are depends on how your app is written. For example, I used Noah Lite with the large dictionary under PiDirect II. Even with that setup, Noah Lite required 3 MB free RAM to run that dictionary. WordSmith is the same way, requiring the entire document to be in RAM because of its advance font system.

I'm a huge fan of PiDirect II and wouldn't leave home w/o it, but be aware that is won't solve the RAM problem for every application.

[Unregistered]

I didnt hear about PiDirect II before, i will give it a try.

I'm using MSMount with some app (London Tube, Collins Dictionary ,CityMaps ) and work fine, i found some app that dont like this "hack" but just copy the db to the palm memory will do it.

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[Raymond Lin]

Where can you get the app for London Tube?

[Unregistered]

There are some versions around there.

I'm using Tube London Pro becouse it has a train map as well

"http://shop.store.yahoo.com/pilotgearsw/tublonpropal.html"

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