How does the NX line hold up today?

[kcirbmab]

Sorry if that's a bit of a broad question. I'm just curious.

[dragonsgames]

Hold up? What do you mean? How does it compare?

[kcirbmab]

Yeah. Is it outdated by now and obsolete or is it still a good choice? I'm wondering if I should upgrade. I don't really know what's out there that could be significantly better.

[Pdaman]

Oh, just get iPhone..................................

[kcirbmab]

Oh, just get iPhone..................................

I'll probably get one some time next year when the price goes way down.

[radon_22]

You can pick up an NX60 for about $80 on Ebay if you shop around. It's not a T5 or a LifeDrive, but for the price... I still use mine daily.

[intellidryad]

To me, it all comes down to memory.

When I was using my NX73, I've only got like 13MB of memory on board. After all the launchers, CF card hacks and much more software, I found my self loading tons of apps on my MS card, and frequently waiting the long waits for the apps to load from the card. I tolerated that, until the MS slot started short circuiting (maybe because I dropped it too often...) Also, only having 1~2MB of empty memory, means frequent crashes in Picsel viewer and NetFront (I use the WIFI card, too).

So, I then switched to my TH55, which I bought right after Sony discontinued it (Got the last one in stock of the store I went to :) ). This time, I have so much memory that I just use as I please. And so snapier experience and almost no crashes. I do miss the keyboard ,the fast CPU, the remote and much more, but as my NX73 is half dead, I'm happy to have a TH55, which is surprisingly stable.

If you don't use up your memory, then you are just fine with your NX :)

[kcirbmab]

Alright, thanks. If I get the NX80, I should have enough room to move everything over from my MS staight onto the RAM and have a few megs left over; right now I only have 2 megs free and don't get any crashes, probably because I don't use any of the cache-intensive programs.

[Pdaman]

Btw, my four post on this thread was joke... kinda =D... Anyway I might get NX80 rather than iPhone, because it is definitely a great pda. However as NX80 is still quite odd model I would buy it, if it just were super cheap compared to iPhone. NX80 is just maybe too outdated nowdays and that annoys me. Anyway other specs like screen, camera, dual slots and design are all still is very great. And processor is also fast for almost every user. Of course there is way to under or overclock it. But lacking on wlan and bluetooth, ouch! So it will also come close that I wouldn't buy it. I just think that isn't nowdays so cool buy so old stuff. I like to get new technoloy as soon it appears on the stores so I don't feel like stuped.. Technology runs very fast and old devices will leave on it legs without any mercy....

[kcirbmab]

Yeah, I'll probably get the 80, I found one for $160 after shipping, which isn't too bad. The only thing I wish the NX80 had was some built-in 8gb flash memory.

[totololo]

Hahaha, it's a good wish ... and maybe a better screen (colors are not so good).
If you are lucky enough to find Jackflash and register it, you may get some precious Mo in Flash ROM to store some programs ...

In a Japanese NX80V i got 5 megs, and 11 megs on a european NX73V

[GodOwnsAnNX80]

I only recently retired my NX-80 to get a smaller device. Other than that I think it's a fantastic PDA still.

[mmulhern]

I have always kept an eye on the PDA world, and I still can't find a new PDA that I'd swap over to. The NX70 with CF and MS slot means that I still have expansion capability as I "only" have a 4GB CF and 1GB MS, and the price on a 4GB MS is looking tempting. the AudioPlayer app is OK to have a bit of music around, and TCPMP is a great video player.

I agree regarding JackFlash, it allows me to move TCPMP (and plugins), most of Docs2Go, and a selection of other small apps.

PowerRUN allows me to move apps that I'm not concerned about startup speed to be moved on to the MS.

The combination of JackFlash and PowerRUN means that I'm able to maintain about 4MB of "free" memory.

And the screen, 480x320 - only in recent time have other PDAs met or exceeded this size/resolution, and realistically, I'm looking at keeping my Clie into 2008 when it will be over 6 years old - positively ancient for a computing device.

Mind you, that iPhone from Apple is looking interesting, but as it won't be down under until 2008, just maybe. . . I wonder . . . . mmmmm?

[totololo]

Hahah, i think you are right to keep it anyway, I have a NX80V, better machine, but i still miss the style of the 70V.

If you don't want to pay for powerrun, you can use MSMOUNT, freeware, for the same usage.

[mmulhern]

Actually, I had actually looked at upgrading to a "less old" Clie, so that my current NX73 would become a backup/spare. But as much as I liked some of the last Clie models, the ability to max out to 8GB (2x4GB) of immediately accessible storage is just too convenient to "upgrade" from.

[sere83]

I primarily use my nx70 for playing videos, so now it is overclocked and able to play videos at 480X320 30fps I see little need to buy a pmp. The clie line was without a doubt way ahead of it's time. While the apple Iphone looks tempting I don't like the way Apple contracts you to using their formats and applications, mind you i'm sure it will get hacked just as the psp did. The clie is such a versatile machine though and as has been said before a screen resolution of 480X320 is remarkable considering how old it is and tcmp is a brilliant player with great codec support. My only concerns are really battery life and storage, I have not tested my clie on any long journey yet so I will have to see how much playbck time I get out of it.

[totololo]

Yes, and you know, the last models CPU, HandHeldEngine ... sucks ... for power-hungry applications. For exemple, you definitively cannot have decent video playback of native 480x320 pixels videos at 30 fps on UX50/TH55/VZ90, because of this CPU, when it's really quite easy with NX70/73/80 and some overclocking.

So, Clie NX73/80 are the last powerfull clies, even if they are older.

[airship]

The iPhone will have the same size screen as my NX80V, and won't let you load 3rd party apps. I can play videos and Flash on my Clie, and download and play free and commercial games. It's got great WiFi web browsing, and I can use memory sticks or compact flash. It's not time for me to consider 'upgrading' yet, not when I'd actually lose functionality.

[Pdaman]

Yes, and you know, the last models CPU, HandHeldEngine ... sucks ... for power-hungry applications. For exemple, you definitively cannot have decent video playback of native 480x320 pixels videos at 30 fps on UX50/TH55/VZ90, because of this CPU, when it's really quite easy with NX70/73/80 and some overclocking.

So, Clie NX73/80 are the last powerfull clies, even if they are older.True, they should have build better support for videos, like with better video accelerator or something like that, or maybe 20mb or decicated memory for video playback but no. These HHD handhelds were build for just work as organizer and basic entertainment. So as UX50/TH55/VZ90 and NX70/73/80 are builded differently for different tasks. Sony PSP could be somethign between them, because it has HHD and fast hardwares for video playback. So big plus for Sony but minus inself to PSP, because it doesn't just have touch screen or better 3th party softwares, but in otherwise it would be just AMAZING! :cool:

[totololo]

Yes, i had a PSP and sold it because of the lack of good games (to my taste) and the poor video player function, limited to 320x240 and some other very small resolutions. As the screen on PSP is 480x272, when you play a video on it you cannot be in full screen without upscalling ... and it makes details very blurred. Clie NX still hold the comparison, allowing 480x320 pixels video, without any upscaling and a lot more details.

What a failure, this PSP ...

[jdonalds]

I think my NX80 is finally falling behind other options. The new iPhone announced today is tempting, however I still like the idea of having a small cell phone that easily slips in my pocket, and a PDA for other things.

I use my four year old NX80 every day. I use the calendar, address book, todo list, and notes, the basic PDA functions. I also have my own EKG machine that uses the NX80 as a processor. I've played more games of FreeCell than I want to admit, and I watch movies on it less often than earlier but perhaps once a month and especially on trips.I store all my passwords in the YAPS software, have a full bible installed which I use several times a week, and use BigClock as an alarm clock. However I now use an iPod nano for my music instead of the NX as I did for several years. The nano is simply faster, smaller, and holds more.

The camera gave out about six months ago but I don't miss it. The spare NX80 I purchased last year on eBay also has a bad camera. I've replaced the battery so I'm experiencing like new performance of several hours operation without a charge.

I often chuckle when I read about new devices that tout features the Sony had several years ago. The screen is still top notch, so bright I always use it on its lowest setting.

I liked the keyboard on the NX70 much better than the thing Sony put on the NX80, otherwise I'm still quite happy with the unit and am not likely to replace it for a few years.

John

[boomer]

My NX70 is still my daily PDA, going strong after more than 5 years of heavy daily use. No loose hinge, camera works fine, no lost pixels, nothing broken.

It is my planner, calculator, organizer and my Bible. People at church are still amazed at what my old Clie can do. I was looking at the iPod Touch - but is isn't as versatile as my Clie. The Touch may have built in wifi, but it doesn't have an external keyboard, no camera, no real PDA software, no MS Office software. Plus, the NX70 doesn't need a fancy case for carrying it in your pocket - it is it's own case. And the best part of all - it's already paid for!!

[BalBurgh]

At the risk of repeating myself, I'll just basically say ditto. Nothing else really comes close.