Agendus

[kathylfeeney]

As anyone had a problem with Agendus doing a reset when trying to go into the preferences?
I have a TX that I just got. Installed everything new. Updated Agendus to the latest release. Tried uninstalling Agendus but that didn't work. Any ideas?

[mcapehart]

Hi,
A few questions:
1. What version number are you using?

2. What language?

3. Any GUI or font hacks in use?

[Zano2004]

Interesting....... ignore problems over on the iambic forum but not on 1Scr.

[kathylfeeney]

I'm using Agendus Professional v11.1
I have no font hacks installed
I'm sorry, I don't understand what GUI means.
I did post this on the Iambic site but received no answer. I was hoping that it was because of the holidays.
Any help would be greatly appreciated.

[mcapehart]

Interesting....... ignore problems over on the iambic forum but not on 1Scr.You are so exhausting.

[mcapehart]

GUI means hacks that modify the User Interface, like PalmRevolt or SkinUI. Likelyhood is you don't have either of those.

Based on your answers, there is no obvious reason this should happen. You didn't say what language you're using, but I'll assume English. Please try using Options->Default Settings, then exit Agendus and re-try.

You're right about the holidays. I was searching 1src in my off time ;)

[kathylfeeney]

Exhausting? It's 8AM, How can I be exhausting at 8AM? Perhaps a vitamin would help. Yes, English. And I've already tried the default preferences. Didn't help. I'm using mySkin, does that make a difference?
Have you had your coffee yet?

[Zano2004]

There is a problem with 11.1 on a 680 and it is being ignored on the iambic forum.

[mcapehart]

Exhausting? It's 8AM, How can I be exhausting at 8AM? Perhaps a vitamin would help. Yes, English. And I've already tried the default preferences. Didn't help. I'm using mySkin, does that make a difference?
Have you had your coffee yet?
I wasn't referring to you being exhausting. I am more than happy to help you. See the quote above that post.

Can you temporarily disable MySkin to see if it makes a difference?

[mcapehart]

There is a problem with 11.1 on a 680 and it is being ignored on the iambic forum.
Nothing is being ignored.

[kathylfeeney]

I went back to the Built-in OS Skin, entered Agendus, pressed Default Settings and then tried the Preferences but nothing has changed, it still reset.
Didn't think I was being ignored (excepted by my husband) :)
Any other suggestions?

[mcapehart]

This is very strange. Can you try uninstalling, then soft reset, hotsync once without installing anything, then reinstall Agendus?

[kathylfeeney]

OH NO! It's really broken now. It won't install.
- Install failed: C:\Program Files\Palm\LK\Install\agenduspro_ota_en.prc
Install synchronization failed
HotSync Error: Connection is lost (6410)
Must take a pill and wipe the tear from my eye.

[kathylfeeney]

OK, now I really have a headache. Having done nothing difference but wipe my eyes and run the hotsync three different times, it finally reinstalled. However, it still resets upon pressing Preferences in the Agendus program.

[mcapehart]

WOW! There's no simple explanation for this. I just noticed you have a Clie avatar. Did you upgrade to the TX from the Clie? If so, did you simply restore your data and apps from the backup of the clie? If so, this could be the problem. Many Clie files are not compatible with the TX generation of devices.

If not I can't imagine why you're getting such weird behavior. You could try moving the Saved Preferences file from RAM to the memory card using a File Manager of some kind.

There are many out there, but I recommend RescoExplorer (http://www.resco.net/palm/explorer/default.asp), which has a 2week free trial.

After moving it, try launching Agendus again.

*Note: The Saved Preferences stores your registration data as well, so be sure to not delete it, in case moving it doesn't help.

[kathylfeeney]

I use to have a TH and got the TX for Christmas. I enstalled everything new.
Moved Saved preference to my card. Pressed Preference in Agendus after doing this and the TX reset again.

[Zano2004]

Nothing is being ignored.Cool. I didn't realize I have to come over to 1Scr to find that out.

[Zano2004]

I wasn't referring to you being exhausting. I am more than happy to help you. See the quote above that post.

Can you temporarily disable MySkin to see if it makes a difference?Michael was referring to me exhausting him. :D ........... at 8 AM :D :rolleyes: :eek:

[mcapehart]

I use to have a TH and got the TX for Christmas. I enstalled everything new.
Moved Saved preference to my card. Pressed Preference in Agendus after doing this and the TX reset again.I'm sorry, but I cannot reproduce this on a T|X or any other device. I could walk you through backup/hard reset steps if you're willing to give it a try.

[kathylfeeney]

Oh no, I was afraid of that. I would appreciate your help, I don't know how to do a hard reset. Should I do a new install of everything? When I get done with this, if necessary, can I ask a few more questions? Example what is the difference between mySkin and myKbd? Launch-Anywhere has to be activated after each reset, likewise "StatBatt".
Should I install Agenduls first? Thanks again for your help.

[SoS]

Oh no, I was afraid of that. I would appreciate your help, I don't know how to do a hard reset. Should I do a new install of everything? When I get done with this, if necessary, can I ask a few more questions? Example what is the difference between mySkin and myKbd? Launch-Anywhere has to be activated after each reset, likewise "StatBatt".
Should I install Agenduls first? Thanks again for your help.


ask as many questions as you need to! That's what we are here for..

Myskin skins the DIA area whereas MyKbd adds an additional possibility of installing a highly customised version of the DIA keyboard itself.
L-A does need to be reactivated after reset.
Yes, hard reset and install Agendus first just to make sure nothing else is messing things up. Make sure you rename your backup directory on the PC to something like 'backup_old' or whatever, and then make a new directory called Backup. This will prevent any of your old stuff being restored during the hotsync after your hard reset (and thus recreating the problem you are trying to diagnose).

Hard reset usually need to hit the reset pinhole while holding down the power-on button, then just follow the screen questions...

HTH (hope this helps)

ps. dont want to seem patronising or anything, but you really should spend some time reading the manual. Lot of great info about resets, preferences etc and a whole lot more! Good luck..

[mcapehart]

what SoS says is correct. Rename the backup folder, the follow the instructions in the manual to hard reset, then reinstall Agendus first and nothing else. If it works ok, then reinstall the following next by double clicking on them in the old backup folder:

CalendarDB-Pdat
ContactsDB-Padd
MemosDB-Pmem
TasksDb-Ptod

Then hotsync and retry Agendus. If it still works ok, then you can reinstall SavedPreferences (this contains your preferences, but also your activation code information for all of your applications.

If all is still ok, try reinstalling your other apps one-by-one. I would recommend you redownload all the apps from the developers sites so that you have the most recent versions/builds. Of course if this requires upgrading you may reconsider if you don't want to pay for the upgrade

[kathylfeeney]

I'm sorry, I'm confused again. Why am I reinstalling those files from the backup folder? Won't all the info be reinstalled from my Outlook program?

[mcapehart]

I apologize for the confustion. Yes, they will. I was giving you an extra step that is not necessarily required.

[kathylfeeney]

Just did a hard reset and reinstalled Agendus. When I press preferences in Agendus I actually get the preferences. WOW! Now will start to reinstall everything else (one at a time) and continue to try the Agendus preferences after each hot sync. Thanks so much!

[mcapehart]

Just did a hard reset and reinstalled Agendus. When I press preferences in Agendus I actually get the preferences. WOW! Now will start to reinstall everything else (one at a time) and continue to try the Agendus preferences after each hot sync. Thanks so much!
Great News! You're very welcome. I'm sorry you had to resort to that extreme, but sometimes it just has to be done, especially after transferring data and applications from a much older device. I've had to do it many times in the past with various devices.

I wouldn't be surprised if it never happens again if you reinstall one at a time. Just check Agendus each time after reinstalling.

Maybe we can nail down the culprit.

[Zano2004]

There are several applications that are not running right on the Tx. There are others that are just old and not capmatable with the new operating systems. There as that are lists, but the only way to know for sure is to do what Michael is telling you.

[bh77a]

L-A does need to be reactivated after reset.
LA should not need to be reactivated after a soft reset. It survives it just fine for me.

In regards to skinning applications, you would be wise to place Agendus in the exclusions list (in SkinUI, PalmRevolt or FontSmoother).

[kathylfeeney]

Everything has been reinstalled and working correctly. No more problem with Agendus Preferences. I do have a couple more questions. I'm still confused about MySkin and MyKbd. Are they two separate programs or the same program with two different names. I installed one and then I installed the other and it seemed to replace the first one I had installed.
Second question, on my status bar on the left side I have the Windows logo (I guess you would call it) but it also has the find icon on it and it didn't before, can I get rid of that?
Last question. Why in the graffiti area and in Launch-Anywere do the icons not changed to what I've changed them to in ZLauncher. Also in Launch-Anywhere the names don't change. Example: I changed PktQuicken to just Quicken but it shows up in launch-anywere as PktQuicken.
Well, that's it, that's all my questions. You guys have been great. Thanks so much for the help.

[kathylfeeney]

In myKbd preferences I selected "Home icon in TX statusbar" and that got rid of the find icon that was on top of the home icon.

[wellsjs]

Michael was referring to me exhausting him. :D ........... at 8 AM :D :rolleyes: :eek:Zan, your persistent "ragging" on iambic is starting to wear me out too, regardless of the time of day or night! :p :)

[bh77a]

Everything has been reinstalled and working correctly. No more problem with Agendus Preferences. I do have a couple more questions. I'm still confused about MySkin and MyKbd. Are they two separate programs or the same program with two different names. I installed one and then I installed the other and it seemed to replace the first one I had installed.
Second question, on my status bar on the left side I have the Windows logo (I guess you would call it) but it also has the find icon on it and it didn't before, can I get rid of that?
Last question. Why in the graffiti area and in Launch-Anywere do the icons not changed to what I've changed them to in ZLauncher. Also in Launch-Anywhere the names don't change. Example: I changed PktQuicken to just Quicken but it shows up in launch-anywere as PktQuicken.
Well, that's it, that's all my questions. You guys have been great. Thanks so much for the help.- mySkin and myKbd are not exactly the same programs, but one will overwrite the other. The short history is that mySkin originated as a means to change the skin of the DIA. Pruss, the author, the developed the Atomik text entry method and built in that functionality to myKbd. So, with myKbd, you get all of the functionality of mySkin, plus the added functionality of the Atomik text entry system (I highly recommend it).

- LaunchAnywhere does not show the altered names at this time and will not allow the user to assign an alternative name in the menu. For example, I use Paul Nevai's pToolSet and would rather have pDateTool named to something such as "Add Agenda Item..." for manners of elegance. This is something that I have written to ZZTechs (LA author) about and they are "considering" the functionality.

- I don't currently use any icon overlays with ZLauncher, but it seemed that when I did the changes were reflected in LA. Sorry can't be of help on this one.

[applejosh]

Pruss, the author, the developed the Atomik text entry method and built in that functionality to myKbd.

I don't know if you meant to say "then developed the Atomik..." or if you said he took the Atomik text entry system. But just for the sake of clarity, pruss took the Atomik text entry system from IBM and put it myKbd.

(http://www.alphaworks.ibm.com/tech/atomik)

[bh77a]

I don't know if you meant to say "then developed the Atomik..." or if you said he took the Atomik text entry system. But just for the sake of clarity, pruss took the Atomik text entry system from IBM and put it myKbd.

(http://www.alphaworks.ibm.com/tech/atomik)You are correct in both counts. Meant to say "then". Thought about noting the origination of Atomik but got in a hurry... I should have written that he continued the work of another Palm developer (can't remember which one) and succeeded in bringing IBM's Atomik text entry system to the Palm platform.

[Zano2004]

Zan, your persistent "ragging" on iambic is starting to wear me out too, regardless of the time of day or night! :p :)"Persistent" implies that is the only thing I do, which is not the case. Michael has a very short memory and you don't know because I PMed him with the issue, which seemed to be a big potential problem for iambic if made public. You guys just don't like the criticism of iambic even if justified.

p.s. It is interesting that you jump on me for saying less than people who you play sweet and nice with, even when their criticism is in error. If this is really about me nailing a certain iambic staff someone over on the iambic forum for his intimidation of a customer for his criticism of a new product. Get with that certain someone and explain how stupid his statement was.

While I was an iambic Forum Team Member I felt obligated to not say some things since I was a paid employee. That is not the case now. While a member I also recommended you for membership on the Forums Team. I'm happy for you that it has grown into higher paid position.

Don't kill the messenger.

[SoS]

LA should not need to be reactivated after a soft reset. It survives it just fine for me.

In regards to skinning applications, you would be wise to place Agendus in the exclusions list (in SkinUI, PalmRevolt or FontSmoother).


maybe that was an issue with a beta..havent has a reset since v1.0 installed :) . Sorry for the mis-info!!

[wellsjs]

p.s. It is interesting that you jump on me for saying less than people who you play sweet and nice with, even when their criticism is in error. If this is really about me nailing a certain iambic staff someone over on the iambic forum for his intimidation of a customer for his criticism of a new product. Get with that certain someone and explain how stupid his statement was.Huh? Please forgive my ignorance, but I haven't got a clue what you are talking about. "Shoot the messenger?" Not my style or intent. I just thought and hoped you would have grown tired and bored with ragging iambic at every little opportunity. I would suggest, as your friend, that your attempts to embarrass iambic are beginning to become an embarrassment to you! A person with a vendetta is pretty easy to spot. Drop your grudge at being dismissed from the iFTM and get on with and enjoy life. And I still do appreciate your part in voting me into the iFTM. I've said what I've said because I care about you as a friend . . . call it "tough love!" :)

[Zano2004]

Huh? Please forgive my ignorance, but I haven't got a clue what you are talking about. "Shoot the messenger?" Not my style or intent. I just thought and hoped you would have grown tired and bored with ragging iambic at every little opportunity. I would suggest, as your friend, that your attempts to embarrass iambic are beginning to become an embarrassment to you! A person with a vendetta is pretty easy to spot. Drop your grudge at being dismissed from the iFTM and get on with and enjoy life. And I still do appreciate your part in voting me into the iFTM. I've said what I've said because I care about you as a friend . . . call it "tough love!" :)I think it is you that have it wrong. I haven't said anthing embarrassing to me. If I were on a "vendetta" I wouldn't have taken a security issue iambic may have to Micheal in a private message. Nobody is paying me to say what I do.........

"I would suggest as your friend...." friend? There was no vote, it was a recommendation. John, several iFTM knew that I was on my way to quiting the "team" because of my disgust, and you knew it then as I recall. Now you're playing the dutiful thing. Shame on you.

[SoS]

guys, play nicely!!! ;)

[Zano2004]

guys, play nicely!!! ;)Yeah, you're right. I gave em a couple of "love taps" and they bring out the "BIG GUNS". They sure are very defensive these days. :confused: :eek:

[mcapehart]

guys, play nicely!!! ;)Ridiculous isn't it?

[kathylfeeney]

If you've ever had a personal crisis in your life I think you begin to learn what's important and what's not. If Iambic is all he has to worry about I think he must be a very lucky person.
That said, I would like to thank everyone again for all the help. My TX (and Agendus) is up and running and doing great.

[mcapehart]

...I would like to thank everyone again for all the help. My TX (and Agendus) is up and running and doing great.You are very welcome. I'm happy to hear thing are working well.

[Zano2004]

Ridiculous isn't it?No, but you sure are trying hard to make it seem so.

[wellsjs]

"I would suggest as your friend...." friend? . . . Now you're playing the dutiful thing. Shame on you.Yeah, that's right. What kind of a friend wouldn't step in when their friend gets out of hand? I figured you'd blast me out of the water as soon as I spoke up about your childish behavior. And you've gone way overboard with your signature in the iambic forums and all your rants.

There's no "shame" to lavish on me Zan. I support iambic like I have supported any company I work for . . . with loyalty. You even said the same held for you once upon a time a few posts back in this thread. So what's wrong with me doing what you used to do and what any "good" employee should do?

I don't agree with everything iambic does, but I'm a good, loyal soldier . . . I voice my opinions, persuade where I can, and then I march to orders. When the head coach sends in the play with 2 seconds left on the clock, the quarterback better run that play (unless he has a green light to audible) whether he agrees with the call or not or he won't keep his job. If that's what you call "dutiful," then I consider that a desirable employee characteristic. Better to be "dutiful" than a rebel without a cause! :)

I have no problem with you criticizing iambic products by saying this doesn't or that doesn't work and "they said they'd fix it in the next release and didn't" yada yada yada, but it's when you throw in the conjectures about integrity and not caring and all they care about is making money, etc. etc., that's where you begin wasting your time and everyone else's. If you're right and iambic doesn't care about making customers happy but only about making money, they won't be around very long . . . let's see what the future reveals! :eek:

[Zano2004]

yada, yada, yada