Getting a WM Phone...but it's not a Treo.

[JAmerican]

Ever since I left my CLIE, I wanted to assimilate my interest to fit the limited margins of Palm devices. While this worked somewhat, it didn't work entirely. I found myself having much difficultly writing on my TX with a stylus or even writing memos for quick reminders. This is most of the reason I used my TX as a media player. But as my T610's condition kept getting worse, I realized that I not only needed a new phone, I needed a new smartphone. Having used a Sidekick as my last smartphone, I always wanted to return back to the always-connected device. At the time I had a Sidekick, I wished it had music at least so I could listen to that while I responded to IMs but having seen the CLIE's media capabilities, I felt that I could go unconnected because the media and content would be on the device. Having been away frm a connected device for a long time, I want to return, but I want to also get the features from my UX as well.

The Sprint PPC-6700 has been out for Sprint for like a year now. But since its release in America, I've seen it as the best WM slider out of the 4 available in America through carriers. Cingular and T-Mobile's versions are 200MHz and Verizon's version's data plan cost too much so Sprint is the ultimate option. I have also used the device before and love the size of the keyboard. Way better than the UX even. Having used Mini-Keyboard on the TX screen, the lack of tactile feedback gets annoying.

Now you all must be saying why not the Treo. First of all, its funny because that would imply you support WM but from Palm only, even though HTC makes the PPC 6700 as well. But anyway, I choose this route because even though I was able to type on the 700w, I only typed like 3 sentences. I thought about continuous typing and thought about screen resoltion and realized that getting a WM Treo 700wx is not worth it. I would rather get a larger keyboard and a wider screen for web viewing.

People must now be thinking and saying why WM. Why not 700p? The answer to that is that having used the TX for as long as I have, I've come to the conclusion that Web Browsing on a Palm is just terrible. While I've loved NetFront for most of my Palm experience, I've come to the point were it annoys me when it saying Page cannot load because memory is full or something like that. On the TX, it just crashes randomly sometimes. Blazer takes too long to load. Not to forget, the Treo and PPC6700 are both around the same size not to forget it has a keyboard under the screen.

I am open to hear people's comments. I have not yet order the PPC6700 but will do so in the coming weeks. I ordered a Razr V3m and Sprint messed up my order so I have yet to receive it so I cancelled my order and will send the phone back. With the refund, I plan on getting a PPC6700 with the same plans. I will try my best to post a non-biased review but seriously, we are all biased in our own interests. This does not mean I will be intentionally biased but what I am saying is not no one is non-biased. Trust me guys, if Palm just gave different form-factors a chance, I would not be typing this. People talk about Palm having done a terrible job with sliders but promote the idea of flip phones, which also have moving parts. So I don't know.

Anyway, let me know what you think.

JAmerican

[JAmerican]

Looks like the courts have ruled in favor of such a decision. I hope to order my phone by early December and to write a review possibly from it. I will let you all know when I do order it, get it, etc. I will keep my TX so I can test apps as well as develop on it.

JAmerican

[newT3user]

That's sounds good to me. I've been waffling on what to do as far as my first pda phone goes. I have decided to go with the Cingular 8525. Despite that everyone says that I don't need it, I DO use wifi all the time. There are plenty of free hotspots in my areas of work. I will NOT pay for extra data. I think I pay enough now! There isn't anything that I use on my LD that the WM5 doesn't have a counterpart. The treo's keys are too small for me. I've got thumble-thumbs! I shall try the 8525 for the 30 days, and then go from there. Anyways, I hope you, JAmerican, enjoy new new 6700!

[JAmerican]

yea you too. That's what I plan to do. Treo keys work for me after like 3 sentences but afterwards not sure how I would deal with it. But I hope to learn WM as well. I've recently installed Windows 98 and 2000 on my Mac via Virtual PC (I have a PowerBook) because HB++ does not run on Mac natively.

I think I've given Palm enough time to try different form factors. Like I've owned more Palm OS PDAs than anything else. (Treo 90, UX40, UX50, TX) Time for something different.

JAmerican

[nausicaa]

gosh, after you guys move over to the dark side, let us know how you did your data migration! I have also been eyeing the HTC TyTN (Cingular 8525 international version) but it is sooo expensive i am just at the eyeing stage.
Also, i am worried about data migration.
Last i don't know of any website comparable to 1src for the WM5 crowd~
anyways, good luck and let us know what you learn!!!

(ps if you start up a 1src-like website for wm5 folks, let us know the url!)

[Pdaman]

Well it is quite common thing a now days to move wm so this isn't so big deal even here in 1src. I remember quite many threads where some dude did decide to move to wm device. Though those threads haven’t ever been so popular. Anyway even I have thought about it very much and I did go through almost all ppc devices and list up good and bad specs and details about them. My general reason for moving to ppc was quite much about that I wanted to try out something new like the internet browsers, voip and games etc. First I though about same device as you. But in the very end I ended up to the Dell Axim x51v. And do you know why? The screen. Thing is that the screen is very very important for me and I think that very important for other 1src members too. Without a good screen you can't be so proud of beautiful pictures, movies and other graphics. Also the web browsing will not be so good if there isn't enough resolution or space to show pages. So main question is that are you sure about the screen? At least this would make me scare if I were moving from my th55’s 320x480 resolution screen to a 2.8 " 240x320 screen! It is in my opinion a big jump. But don’t get me wrong that you don’t what you are doing or something. And because like I did say about how I liked the same device but you should really think this over. I know that this point of compromises because there isn’t really all-in-one devices so you kind need to choose device with a good keyboard and decent screen or another pda without keyboard or phone and high quality screen. Your choose depends on your needs but I would definitely go for phone with better screen.

[JAmerican]

LOL. I am not leaving. Seeing as this site is going to be redone to include a Mobile device section, I will be around there probably more often. BTW to let you all know, I am using my T610 to connect to the web through my PowerBook via BT. :)

[newT3user]

Well, I just got my 8525, and it's charging. It looks and feels good in my hand, though,especially with the tracking wheel, like my old sj22.
palm247 has a forum on palm to wm. I really haven't checked it out, though. Howardforums.com has a lot of comments on the 8525 (search 8525). Don't know about the TyTN.
There's alot of forums around, if you just do a searh for them. 1src is a one-of-a-kind, and the best, I think. (Thanks, Joel and all the others!).
Still got my LD, for now.

[nausicaa]

TyTN is the same phone as the 8525, but it is silver not gunmetal gray.
Also, the call and end buttons are nicely put on the far right and left so the control panel is not too cluttered for phone stuff. also, TyTN has a camera on the front too for live video calls
see: http://www.mobiletechreview.com/phones/Cingular-8525.htm

thanks for the tip on howardforums!
also let us know how the 8525 goes~

[JAmerican]

TyTN is the same phone as the 8525, but it is silver not gunmetal gray.
Also, the call and end buttons are nicely put on the far right and left so the control panel is not too cluttered for phone stuff. also, TyTN has a camera on the front too for live video calls
see: http://www.mobiletechreview.com/phones/Cingular-8525.htm

thanks for the tip on howardforums!
also let us know how the 8525 goes~

Guys, I've decided to go with the Treo 700wx. I haven't gotten it yet but this is the reason I've decided to try the Treo...

http://www.1src.com/forums/showpost.php?p=960060&postcount=24

JAmerican

[firelord901]

Yipee :) . Tell me how you like the WX. Been thinkin about gettin it as my phone. Are you going to do a review when you get it?

[JAmerican]

Yipee :) . Tell me how you like the WX. Been thinkin about gettin it as my phone. Are you going to do a review when you get it?

Definately :).

JAmerican

[harpgliss]

Hi,

WOW!

This is like Wellsjs jumping ship and getting a Treo giving up the using of his beloved TH55.

I hope you are prepared for the culture shock of switching to WM.

I love using WM now but after 4 years of using Palm, it was very much a shift in thinking and change in what I needed and wanted on my pda and my use of it.

Not familiar with the Smartphone but I assume you will need a bit of time to get comfortable.

Good luck,

David

[JAmerican]

Now its between 700wx and PPC-6700. You will know which one it is when I get it :).

Otherwise, its just speculation.

JAmerican

[nausicaa]

JAmerican~ did you also look at the 750v? (although i am not sure if it is available in the US market)
I have been wanting to upgrade for a long time , too but holding out for a clamshell-UX50-like device. ..and really hoping to continue with Palm (because it is fast and snappy without the tedious delays and embedded menus and file folders of MS) .. until i realized that i may just HAVE to move over to MS..

Also, Samsung is coming out with an interesting windows pda phone :
http://www.samsung.com/PressCenter/PressRelease/PressRelease.asp?seq=20061107_0000298585#
but i guess i have to wait until next year (when it will be released here in Korea)

after struggling with the ux's small ram, the 30 gb embedded on the samsung pda looks really nice, but i just realized the thing has bluetooth 1 (damn. what are they thinking???)

http://www.samsung.com/PressCenter/PressRelease/images/20061107img_l.jpg

[JAmerican]

Dam ur lucky. We don't get those things until like 5 years later. LOL. But that looks expensive anyway. I am looking for a phone/pda thats affordable. I would have gotten a JASJAR if price was not an issue.

JAmerican

[JAmerican]

Guys, due to the fact that I am low on funds due to college expenses, I decided just to try and get a T-Mobile phone, since I am already with them and cut what I was going to spend. It just makes the most sense that way in my opinion. Probably when I start doing COOPs and working for companies, then I'll get a phone. But for now, I'm going to budget my money.

So, basically I am going to keep using my TX and I am staying with Palm OS.

JAmerican