Jolly Roger Screenshots on a TX?

[FerdFerd]

Based on a mention in another thread the Applications forum here, I found Jolly Roger and installed it. But it doesn't seem to do anything on my TX. It says to press the Datebook button (Calendar on TX?) to take a screenshot, but nothing happens when I do that, other than bringing up the calendar. I've tried to search for anything on its compatibility with the TX, but no luck. Anyone here know?

[johnling]

I purchased the program ScreenShot. With it you have to go into screenshot and enable it. Also with Screenshot I had to change their default key. Sorry I forget why but the program allows you to choose the trigger and when I did it works great.

[headcronie]

Don't know that JollyRoger works on such new devices. I'd opt for the freebie HrCapt DA. Saves files in .bmp format on the sd card, and has the ability to review your screenshots from within the program.

[FerdFerd]

Thanks for the advice. It's odd that almost no information about Jolly Roger seems to be floating around here or elsewhere. I've found a few comments that indicate it doesn't capture colors faithfully. Maybe there is a good reason why it isn't seeing much use.

Does HrCapt DA get the DIA and status bar?

[headcronie]

Yes it does. :)

[Church Punk]

:)


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[FerdFerd]

OK, I found a distribution copy of HrCaptDA. I installed the DA (HRCaptE.prc), which captures the screenshot. I also installed HRCaptDM_E.prc, which is a full Palm application that allows you to view the image you capture. The menu displays in this are rather erratic, writing over parts of themselves and being impossible to read. But I was able to see the captured screenshots with it. I haven't figured out what's next, and the directions I have aren't very helpful.

I see that the screenshot is captured in main memory. How does a person go about getting the image out of main memory and into a useful image format, such as bmp or jpg? And is there a version of the viewer that is known to work on the TX? [Edit: In the file manager part of this - HrCaptDM - use the drop down in the upper right corner to select MS (=Memory Stick, but works for SD card) instead of CLIE (which puts the file in main memory). Then use the menu option "Saves to MS Setting..." to choose the format of the image file. After you do this, images will find their way to /Palm/PROGRAMS/HrCapt on the SD card. I find the viewer in the data manager to be a little shaky on the TX, sometimes causing a soft reset when I try to view an image file. Otherwise the combination works well on my TX.]

If it matters, I seem to have two versions of this on my hard drive: 1.81 and 1.85. I have been fiddling with 185. [Edit: The version does matter. 1.81 does not capture the DIA and status bar. 1.85 does capture both.]

BTW, thanks for the advice about Screenshot5, which I agree is a first class application and very easy to use. It's the best of the lot as far as I know. But for the rare times I need a screenshot, something a little less pricey is preferred, if it works to get the job done. I am also aware of ZGrab, Snap, and ScreenDumpDA, all of which are also capable and free, but limited in one way or another. Of those, ZGrab is the only one that captures the DIA and status bar, but it stores images in a moderately inconvenient format.

[pokeypda]

Can't remember the details off hand but...

When I used HRCapt I had to install two files one of which was a DA that did the actual capturing and the other file was for configuring and viewing.

Whenever I tried the viewer it reset my TX upon closing the image. Capture worked well though. Also, my images were .bmp and stored on the card which might have been in the options/configuration. Yeah, and card is called MS Stick or something similar but it works for an SD card. To view the pics I just tapped on them in ZLauncher.

Anyway, I've switched over to ScreenDumpDA some time ago. Just one file needed. :)

Edit: I think I had v1.81 ????

[astonred]

Hi has anyone tried the screen shot program Snap. http://www.freewarepalm.com/graphics/snap.shtml

[FerdFerd]

Hi has anyone tried the screen shot program Snap. http://www.freewarepalm.com/graphics/snap.shtmlI have. It works fine, but it does not capture the status bar or the DIA if it is up. If the DIA is hidden, it captures the entire screen, except for the status bar.

[TBell]

I see that the screenshot is captured in main memory. How does a person go about getting the image out of main memory and into a useful image format, such as bmp or jpg? And is there a version of the viewer that is known to work on the TX?
[Edit: In the file manager part of this - HrCaptDM - use the drop down in the upper right corner to select MS (=Memory Stick, but works for SD card) instead of CLIE (which puts the file in main memory). Then use the menu option "Saves to MS Setting..." to choose the format of the image file. After you do this, images will find their way to /Palm/PROGRAMS/HrCapt on the SD card. I find the viewer in the data manager to be a little shaky on the TX, sometimes causing a soft reset when I try to view an image file. Otherwise the combination works well on my TX.]

If it matters, I seem to have two versions of this on my hard drive: 1.81 and 1.85. I have been fiddling with 185.
[Edit: The version does matter. 1.81 does not capture the DIA and status bar. 1.85 does capture both.]


Thank you so much for posting the edits in regards to HRCapt. I have used Jolly Roger with no problems on my T5 (on which NOTHING seemed to run easily, hence the move to a TX...) and was therefore surprised to find that it doesn't work AT ALL on the TX. Snap works quite well but no DIA image.

I tried HRCapt as per the instructions above (including NOT using the DM part to look at the pictures on my Palm!) and to my delight it worked perfectly. I set the "Delay" to 10 seconds so I could get into the screen I wanted to shoot, I set the "MS Settings" to BMP, I selected my SD card name from "MS Volume Choose"; and of course set the R upper hand drop-down choice to MS as previously mentioned. The screen has a nice little graphic that shows the picture is being taken (better than the soundtones used in Snap in my opinion) and the images showed up without problems in \PALM\programs\HRCapt.

This is a very nice little program - I look forward to using it again.

[TBell]

I have posted my shot at a set of English instructions in the Freeware area, under Applications/Hacks & DAs. It is a text file.

[cyberdude]

OK, I found a distribution copy of HrCaptDA. I installed the DA (HRCaptE.prc), which captures the screenshot. I also installed HRCaptDM_E.prc, which is a full Palm application that allows you to view the image you capture. The menu displays in this are rather erratic, writing over parts of themselves and being impossible to read. But I was able to see the captured screenshots with it. I haven't figured out what's next, and the directions I have aren't very helpful.

I see that the screenshot is captured in main memory. How does a person go about getting the image out of main memory and into a useful image format, such as bmp or jpg? And is there a version of the viewer that is known to work on the TX? [Edit: In the file manager part of this - HrCaptDM - use the drop down in the upper right corner to select MS (=Memory Stick, but works for SD card) instead of CLIE (which puts the file in main memory). Then use the menu option "Saves to MS Setting..." to choose the format of the image file. After you do this, images will find their way to /Palm/PROGRAMS/HrCapt on the SD card. I find the viewer in the data manager to be a little shaky on the TX, sometimes causing a soft reset when I try to view an image file. Otherwise the combination works well on my TX.]

If it matters, I seem to have two versions of this on my hard drive: 1.81 and 1.85. I have been fiddling with 185. [Edit: The version does matter. 1.81 does not capture the DIA and status bar. 1.85 does capture both.]

BTW, thanks for the advice about Screenshot5, which I agree is a first class application and very easy to use. It's the best of the lot as far as I know. But for the rare times I need a screenshot, something a little less pricey is preferred, if it works to get the job done. I am also aware of ZGrab, Snap, and ScreenDumpDA, all of which are also capable and free, but limited in one way or another. Of those, ZGrab is the only one that captures the DIA and status bar, but it stores images in a moderately inconvenient format.
Sounds great! where did you find an English version of HRCaptDM??? I can't do any of the settings because my version isn't in english!

[FerdFerd]

Sounds great! where did you find an English version of HRCaptDM??? I can't do any of the settings because my version isn't in english!I found it here (http://www.ne.jp/asahi/fairy/chimera/files_p/HRCapt185E_PRC.zip). Clicking this link will directly download the zip file containing the DA and the managing application. It is version 1.85E, the one that does capture the DIA and status bar. It's pretty slick, but the file viewer built in to HRCaptDM, the manager application, sometimes crashes my TX upon exiting after viewing a captured screen, so I confine my viewing to another image viewer. (I usually can view one captured screen without incident, but viewing a second without exiting and reentering the application is when it crashes. I just tried this again and did not get a crash, but the second view of the same screen capture was garbled.)

[TBell]

If you go to the website and prowl around there is a British flag by some of the downloads. The user guide I posted has a link to the website in the post also.

TBell

[cyberdude]

If you go to the website and prowl around there is a British flag by some of the downloads. The user guide I posted has a link to the website in the post also.

TBell
Yeah, I saw your user guide and went to that section of 1src and found the link - thanks. Now I can actually read the menu and change the image format to something I can actually use.

[FerdFerd]

If you go to the website and prowl around there is a British flag by some of the downloads. The user guide I posted has a link to the website in the post also.Why not modify the instruction file you posted in the freeware section here so that it includes the URL to download the file? New users would have all they need in one place if you did that. (Pardon me if I missed this in your file - I just reread it and didn't find it.)

Edit: I now see that you posted the URL in the information about the file. I still think it would be ideal to embed that in the text file itself. Even better if you use the URL I posted above that will directly download the required zip file without need of trying to negotiate the Japanese site. If you like, I can PM you the URL to paste in.

[TBell]

I thought about that but had two reservations:

1. I not sure I can do a reliable link myself;

2. I can't be sure because of the language issues but it seemed from trying to navigate the website that the author of the program wanted any links to be to his main page, which seemed to be little enought to ask in return for being able to use his (her?) program.

[FerdFerd]

2. I can't be sure because of the language issues but it seemed from trying to navigate the website that the author of the program wanted any links to be to his main page, which seemed to be little enought to ask in return for being able to use his (her?) program.Regarding that, if that's what the site says, I certainly agree that honoring the author's wishes is the least one could do. You could still copy the URL you posted with your text file into the file itself, though, without violating that. I guess I'm thinking that your file will be passed on from user to user, and without knowing to look in the Freeware forum here, inheritors of the file won't know where to look.

[holvoetn]

Thanks for providing that link FerdFerd, I was still using the 'old' 1.81 because I never was able to find this new one (to be honest: never really took the time to search extensive).

One remark: this version DOES capture DIA and statusbar but it seems to crash when trying to open the picture from within the main program ?
Opening using ZLauncher works fine, so I am a happy camper ;)

[TBell]

I have modified the .txt file to include the URL; though I was unable to make it a hypertext link I guess people can just copy/paste the (very long!) string to their browser...

[TBell]

I have modified the .txt file to include the URL; though I was unable to make it a hypertext link I guess people can just copy/paste the (very long!) string to their browser...

[FerdFerd]

I have modified the .txt file to include the URL; though I was unable to make it a hypertext link I guess people can just copy/paste the (very long!) string to their browser...So far as I know, there isn't any way to create a hypertext link in a pure text file, so don't worry. The URL you have includes the necessary instructions to translate the page (at least some of it) into English, which is why it's so long.

[FerdFerd]

One remark: this version [1.85] DOES capture DIA and statusbar but it seems to crash when trying to open the picture from within the main program ?I'm mainly curious: did version 1.81 not crash? I really am only curious because the ability to capture the DIA and status bar in 1.85 is more important to me than having the built-in viewer work.

(Hmmm. Here's a thought: If 1.81 didn't crash after viewing, I wonder if we could use the 1.85 version of the DA along with the 1.81 version of the main application. If that would work, we could capture the whole screen and view it without incident. I'll try that tomorrow, if someone doesn't beat me to the draw.)

[holvoetn]

I'm mainly curious: did version 1.81 not crash? I really am only curious because the ability to capture the DIA and status bar in 1.85 is more important to me than having the built-in viewer work.No, it didn't crash ;)

[FerdFerd]

(Hmmm. Here's a thought: If 1.81 didn't crash after viewing, I wonder if we could use the 1.85 version of the DA along with the 1.81 version of the main application.This doesn't work. When trying to view a screen capture from the version 1.85 DA with the 1.81 manager, I get a message saying "It failed in picture reading..." There is more text that gives possible reasons, including broken data or incompatible "specifications." The image is actually still captured correctly by the DA, as demonstrated by other image viewers.

[holvoetn]

Too bad, it was worth the try though.
Thanks for the effort ;)