The TX is better than a Treo

[bockman]

I'm a little shocked by the numerous people who just assume that the Treo is a better device than the TX. And the countless references to the "PDA is dead" argument.

My TX can do far more than my Treo 650 did. And it can do EVERYTHING that my Treo 650 did, since it pairs so easily with my cell phone.

Yes, I have two devices. But you know what? When I only want one small device, that's an option for me. The Treo 650 was big, did not have additional functions (over my combo), and it was just all around crappier.

I love the screen on the TX. I love being able to use WiFi. And I love having my applications on the device rather than a card which makes them faster.

I wouldn't want the LifeDrive, either, because it has a hard drive, which is inherently slower than the internal memory (or even an SD card).

The TX is the best PDA, and with my cell and keyboard, I have a full powered computer wherever I go.

Who's with me?

Kory...

[AZ-TX]

For you the TX is better than a Treo. The same applies to me. That being said there are people out and about whose Treos work better for them than the PDA/Phone combo :)

While I do use my TX for a laptop replacement (which I love), it can by no means put a scratch into what I can do with my desktop PC.

[Joel]

"The X is better than the Y" -- where X and Y are any two devices. X and Y is highly subjective and is only uniquely true for a specific individual.

For example, I can say that the Pilot is better than the TX... because it's true for me but not for others. Meanwhile, when you say the TX is better than the Treo, I respect that because that's true for you even if it's not for me. :)

[Church Punk]

im with you, kory

[indigenous]

OK , so this gets right to my dilemma. My cell contract is expiring in December and I was considering a Treo so I could just carry around one device instead of two. But I do enjoy my TX and would miss the big screen. My current cell phone lacks bluetooth, so I haven't used the web with the TX when I'm away from my home wireless network.

So as far as Kory and a few others are concerned I would be better off getting a decent bluetooth enabled phone for internet access and keep the TX for the bigger screen and faster operation the larger internal memory affords. This would probably also be cheaper. Besides going from two devices to one, are there any other reasons to drop the TX and go with just a Treo?

All personal opinions are welcome!!!

Thx, Indi

[Dick Tracy]

If you are using Verizon, there is a slim to nothing chance you can pair any of their BT handsets unless you can find a 710 with old ROM.

[indigenous]

Thanks for the Verizon info. I am on Sprint. Anyone know if their bluetooth phones are pairable with the TX? This is probably fodder for another thread, unless it's already been covered. I'll have a look ...

[johnling]

I'm a little shocked by the numerous people who just assume that the Treo is a better device than the TX. And the countless references to the "PDA is dead" argument.

My TX can do far more than my Treo 650 did. And it can do EVERYTHING that my Treo 650 did, since it pairs so easily with my cell phone.

Yes, I have two devices. But you know what? When I only want one small device, that's an option for me. The Treo 650 was big, did not have additional functions (over my combo), and it was just all around crappier.

I love the screen on the TX. I love being able to use WiFi. And I love having my applications on the device rather than a card which makes them faster.

I wouldn't want the LifeDrive, either, because it has a hard drive, which is inherently slower than the internal memory (or even an SD card).

The TX is the best PDA, and with my cell and keyboard, I have a full powered computer wherever I go.

Who's with me?

Kory...

I agree 200% and then some!

[joetheman74]

Thanks for the Verizon info. I am on Sprint. Anyone know if their bluetooth phones are pairable with the TX? This is probably fodder for another thread, unless it's already been covered. I'll have a look ...

I can pair my TX with my Samsung SPH-A900. Only for internet access and to transfer contacts. Transfering pics or other data causes an error. Palm needs to create a driver for the phone to get that to work. The process to get it to work is posted in another thread. BTW data transfer on Sprint EVDO network is blazing fast!

[indigenous]

Thanks Joe. That's the phone my wife has so I can give it a try. Since EVDO is fast do you find bluetooth to be a limiting factor?

indi

[Chanbingo]

This is a wrong argument. Comparing apples to oranges don't make much sense.

[Church Punk]

or apples with pcs ^^
i think this is very subjective, as Joel said...

[bockman]

"The X is better than the Y" -- where X and Y are any two devices. X and Y is highly subjective and is only uniquely true for a specific individual.

Ummm... Isn't that what a posting to a message board is? I mean, I'm not stating a universal truth that ALL MUST FOLLOW. (Note: all caps used on purpose to suggest a booming, commandment-giving voice.)

Meanwhile, when you say the TX is better than the Treo, I respect that because that's true for you even if it's not for me. :)

Thanks for the love.

[bockman]

This is a wrong argument. Comparing apples to oranges don't make much sense.
I disagree. I think it is very useful to have these statements. I mean, I listen to the 1src podcast and he talks extensively about how the PDA as an unconnected device (meaning no phone connection) is dead. Well, I don't have a podcast to express my opinion, but the PDA without a phone is most definitely NOT dead.

If you compare the power of the TX to the power of the Treo, the TX wins in every regard except for the phone. Yes, at some point the Treo will catch up to the TX, but by then I expect we'll have the TX2 or the TX3, which will again be far ahead of the newest Treo.

The simple fact is, if you don't stick a phone inside the case, it makes it smaller, gives room for other features, and keeps the cost down. What's not to love about that? Why should we want that to go away?

At some point, the phone chip may be so small as to be negligible. Fine. At that point, I won't need a separate device. Until then, give ME a highly portable, high-powered, mobile computing device.

[JAmerican]

Wow, I haven't even considered just getting a regular phone to pair with my TX. I was so obsessed with getting an all in one device. I going to check Sprint's site to see if they have any phones because you guys are right, TX screen is beautiful compared to Treo and the size is also amazing. It has its lag issues but overall its perfect. I'm such a flip-flopper. LOL.

JAmerican

[bockman]

Hi, JAmerican. I notice you mention in your .sig that you have T-Mobile. Why would you check into Sprint?

The reason I ask is that I have T-Mobile and I'm able to get online with my Nokia 6230b (unlocked and originally from Cingular) using just T-Mobile Web (or whatever they call it now) for just $5.99 per month. :D

Kory...

[Joel]

Ummm... Isn't that what a posting to a message board is? I mean, I'm not stating a universal truth that ALL MUST FOLLOW. (Note: all caps used on purpose to suggest a booming, commandment-giving voice.) ... Thanks for the love.
You're right, Kory. I've just thought I'd add some food for thought to the discussion :)

I still have an unlocked Nokia phone that pairs great with my TX (months ago) and my LifeDrive and MacBook Pro (now). It's just that I find the Treo 650 best for my needs... in fact, I can say that even the Treo 600 would work great.

You know what I'm really wishing for? A TX-form factor Treo! :D

[indigenous]

Thanks for your opinions. As far as I'm concerned, the beauty of the human mind is that we can compare apples with oranges. :-)

[JAmerican]

Hi, JAmerican. I notice you mention in your .sig that you have T-Mobile. Why would you check into Sprint?

The reason I ask is that I have T-Mobile and I'm able to get online with my Nokia 6230b (unlocked and originally from Cingular) using just T-Mobile Web (or whatever they call it now) for just $5.99 per month. :D

Kory...

Because T-Mobile does not work that great with my T610 and I don't want to test it with any other T-Mobile phone. My T-Mobile Web is $10 and I cannot access the web without using a proxy and I cannot access my buddy list period.

Jamerican

[rpayne]

The TX is much more desireable to me with the screen real estate and memory and slim design.

I just lost my TX and bought a new TX instead of a Treo because my cingular 2125 has bluetooth and I dial from it.

I am anxious to see what the TX follow up device will be!

[cybrnetico]

I 've have both T|X and Treo650. Hands down yes the T|X is awesome. I am still trying to see what I can do and not do with my Treo.

I really appreciate threads like this, because of there honestly.

[LexLuther]

Well, I am in love with the TX and one day I will get one. For right now I have a T3 (yah, still) and I surf at home with my bluetooth network (I lost my wifi sd card) and when I am out I use BT on my Nokia. I SMS using my T3 and it send seemlessly via BT to my cell. I surf a bit and check email using BT. So it all works. BUT, here is my reason to not go with the Treo (other than the sheer size of it and the screen size).....risk management. I travel alot and if I lose one of those devices, I can recover quickly. I still have the other until I visit a store to replace and sync with my laptop. Yes, I sync my Nokia everyday and have all my contacts, tasks, calendar etc on it. I never use it but twice I have had to when I lost my T3 (once a loss, the other a repair). A cell phone is just an appliance and I can replace that immediately, link BT and I am off no matter what.

So for me it is about spreading my technology and information risk across two pieces of hardware (three if you include my laptop). That makes me sleep better at night. :D

[LexLuther]

Oh and to hte sages who will say why not a Treo and a Palm (same platform etc) I say becuase this is where I want only a small little phone rather than a big heavy Treo and a T3 or Tx. To be truthful I think my next 'phone' will be a RIM Pearl. But I will still have a PDA.... :)

[JAmerican]

I am now looking into getting this...

http://www1.sprintpcs.com/media/Assets/ueContent/phones/whoa-phoneDetailsMOTV3MKIT.gif

JAmerican

[edward]

My carrier, Rogers (in Canada), has removed the treo from its list of devices as of a week or so ago, and is pushing the Pearl, another Blackberry 8700 series, and the Nokia E62. Prior to that, the Treo 650 was going for around $300.00 Cdn with a 3yr contract for the gsm version. After reading through this thread, I too am considering going for a small, lightweight phone instead of my current Treo600.

I can't compare the 650 to the T|X but I will say that aside from the obvious things it lacked (built in wifi for instance), my T3 was superior to my TX - better grafitti, even with v.1.99 that I have installed, and it runs faster.

[Zano2004]

I have the T5, Tx and Treo 650....... all at the same time. Hands down, the T5 is the most stable of the three. I run pretty much the same software on all three. The T5 was a pain until Palm updated the ROM. But, once they did that, stable as can be. Of the 3, the Tx is the least stable. I've had little trouble with the 650 except for mystery soft resets now and then. The Tx, however does hard resets out of the clear blue. It's a good thing I backup every day.