PLEASE, programmers, HELP the Clie Community

[GoldenTiger]

Sega recently released a GameGear emulator for the Tungsten T, but Clie users can't use it as we don't have the 5-way navigator. Could you make software that  makes pressing the datebook button act as though you pressed left on the navigator, and the address button as though you pressed right on it? That would let Sony Clie users use the GameGear emulator as up/down work, and so do A/B on Todo/Memopad. Thanks a ton for considering! I don't know how hard it is to do this, but it would be great if you could! A lot of people at Cliesource have made efforts to make the emulator usable on the Clie and have patched it to run on it, but we can't play anything without left/right buttons =).

 

Alternately, possibly the software could be modified. It can be done according to a developer, who has provided some info on how to do it. The thread is here http://www.cliesource.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=10973.

 

Please help! If you do, you'll be bringing a powerful new era of gaming to the Clie community!

[SARS]

We really appreciate your effort, but I don't like you at all.

First of all, you copy other people's work (WonderSilk), rename it and sell it as your own. Several weeks later, someone posted his own ZLauncher theme here, and later on the skin is mysteriously being uploaded to PalmGear and being sell for $2. (This makes the original creator pretty mad, and he complainted and said that he will never post anything in this forum again.) Then, you write several game levels with script engine (provided with the original game) and then package their game and your game level and sell it as your own. And, the worst of all, you kept advertising here even after we strongly protested against you.

I don't know who you are, but you're definitely nothing good. You're not a developer, and you will never be respected as a developer. Changing somebody else's name into your name (under About page) doesn't make a program becomes yours, and you're lucky enough that no body has sue you yet.

If you're really that proud of yourself, you shouldn't ask someone else to do the work for you just like a baby yelling for help. There is no mommy here to work for you, you sick little dog!

[Unregistered]

Well I agree, it would be nice to get the gamegear emulator/sega games working on the clie's. It's funny, of all people, SEGA leaked an emulator kinda sorta :P

Also, if that was you who was selling those couple of wondersilk skins for 10$ on palmgear and made it sound like your program to those who don't know of wondersilk... then I agree with SARS.

[Tek Phreak]

what about the game pad available for the clie, wont that work?

Enjoi.
-Tek

[cbulock]

Originally posted by Unregistered
Also, if that was you who was selling those couple of wondersilk skins for 10$ on palmgear and made it sound like your program to those who don't know of wondersilk... then I agree with SARS.

Yep, it was him. And I totally agree also.

[demannu]

I agree that it would be nice if this wored on the clie, but instead just changing the left and right buttone, hows about making th jog wheel up and down? I know this already works with some games,but if it doesn't work with the emulator, then that would be cool.

-d
(notice not anonymous.)

[demannu]

the little left right up down buttons on the keyboard? do they work?

-d

[cbulock]

No

[iebnn]

This is not going to happen. Stop dreaming. Wait for Sony to put better buttons in their devices. I'm a developer, I know what I'm talking about.

Also, I think that the game gear emulator may use special calls to the T|T processor that won't work on an xscale, but I'm not sure about that.

[hansschmucker]

iebnn, it actually works and ardiri has just posted some more hints on how to ptch the button codes. Seems the naysayers are at it again.

[iebnn]

Alright, I stand corrected. Someone else had told me that it uses calls that only the TI cpu supports and not the xscale, but they're wrong I guess :) Sorry for my pessimism.

[n2ifp]

Originally posted by SARS
We really appreciate your effort, but I don't like you at all.

First of all, you copy other people's work (WonderSilk), rename it and sell it as your own. Several weeks later, someone posted his own ZLauncher theme here, and later on the skin is mysteriously being uploaded to PalmGear and being sell for $2. (This makes the original creator pretty mad, and he complainted and said that he will never post anything in this forum again.) Then, you write several game levels with script engine (provided with the original game) and then package their game and your game level and sell it as your own. And, the worst of all, you kept advertising here even after we strongly protested against you.

I don't know who you are, but you're definitely nothing good. You're not a developer, and you will never be respected as a developer. Changing somebody else's name into your name (under About page) doesn't make a program becomes yours, and you're lucky enough that no body has sue you yet.

If you're really that proud of yourself, you shouldn't ask someone else to do the work for you just like a baby yelling for help. There is no mommy here to work for you, you sick little dog!

Hmm, this is pretty heavy duty stuff... if true, then it's a sad day for all :(!

[*YellowRose*]

GOLDENTIGER ~ PLEASE do not start the same thread in multiple forums. It is not necessary. Most people read all the forums. (I've deleted all but this one)

THANKS.

[Unregistered]

"if true, then it's a sad day for all"

there is no "if" about it.

[GoldenTiger]

Sars, 90% of that is completely false.

The only truth to it is that I made a skin for Wondersilk similar to one made by Jim barr (who has agreed to allow the sale of the skin) and sold it on palmgear. He has consented to its sale.

It was not anything related to a game or zlauncher themes, and there was no "skin" for $2 that I ripped off of anyone, SARS. Search and get your facts straight before spreading lies about people; it makes you look incredibly stupid.

Gotta love the Internet... people have endless imaginations! Unlike you, SARS, I have over 500 posts of trying to help people (mostly, some are in off-topic and just chatting), instead of a single unregistered post filled with lies. I won't continue to respond to any further posts by you, as the saying goes "don't roll in the mud with the pigs"...

[iebnn]

Heh, the "only" truth.. that's a pretty bad thing you did, still. You lost any respect I might have had for you before that.

[Token User]

Originally posted by GoldenTiger
Gotta love the Internet... people have endless imaginations! Unlike you, SARS, I have over 500 posts of trying to help people (mostly, some are in off-topic and just chatting), instead of a single unregistered post filled with lies. I won't continue to respond to any further posts by you, as the saying goes "don't roll in the mud with the pigs"... Good quote - pity this thread has gone to the hogs :)

A maxim I like in forums is "You are not your post count".

Many of those 500 posts you have are you defending your stand over the WonderSilk/JBarr issue. Also, do those posts include the ones you made under another name purporting to be a ZeoPad beta tester and declaring how great it was??

You might be better mothballing the GoldenTiger account, and coming back with a clean slate.

FWIW - What are the chances of Sony partnering with Sega to release the emulator under the Sony branded PalmOS? I am not a gamer, but do Sega produce titles for the Playstation?? A better option would be Sony licencing the emulator and bundling it with the Gamepad peripheral - that would be a MUCH richer gaming experience than that gained from usig a D pad.

My thoughts, YVMV - and probably will.

[iebnn]

Sega is now only a software house. They make games for every system, including Playstation 2.

[Alistar]

I remember when they were making consoles, I feel so old. Ask any kids nowadays about sega genesis, master system or gamegear and they don't know what you are talking about.

[aaronchow]

Originally posted by Alistar
I remember when they were making consoles, I feel so old. Ask any kids nowadays about sega genesis, master system or gamegear and they don't know what you are talking about.

Great, so how am I going to sell my beloved Sega Genesis? Wait, I'm only 24...

[ashVID]

Quite ironic...someone asking for something to be developed for free that sells things that not only should be free but may not even be 100% his.... ironic...

I cant speak for Palm but I have messed with many emu ports for Xbox, PS2 and such and it is WAAAAAY more difficult than people think. There will be no TRUE emulation until there is a new OS with faster processors. There can be emulators that play a FEW games but no true hardware emulation of GBA, NES, SNES, etc.


ash =o)

[iebnn]

Alistar: sega's last game console came out about 3 years ago. Nintendo 64 was before that.. loads of kids remember (and probably still use) the system. You're not old :(

[iebnn]

ashVID: I'm curious as to why this emulator is not a "TRUE" emulator? It runs game gear games (any one, if you change some of the data in the prc).. And game gear has better graphics than NES, so an NES emulator would be entirely possible under current Palm OS units.

[hansschmucker]

It is a true emulator, no matter what ashVID says. I guess you were thinking about high-level and low-level emulation. Sega produced for some odd reason a low-level emulator (basically tries to do everything exactly the way it was done on the original console), when a high-level emulator would have been much easier to do and would have been faster as well (a high-level emulator captures stuff like libary calls and instead of trying to pretend it was a certain machine to the libraries, it runs it's own libraries which are optimized for the platform the emulator runs on, it's only hard to do if you don't no the exact way the libraries functioned, and Sega should know THAT).

[yOyOYoo]

okay if a developer changes the datebook and phone book options, What about the START button? certain games like Megaman, you NEED a start button. (on the Tungsten T the datebook is the start button)

This start button poses as a problem, because if it was set to pause with a home or menu tap, then it would work for sony NX series, but not for TG50 series, as the home button acts as a left button

So developers have a few options:
1) program two seperate modes of button mapping, one for TG and one for NX, this is essential, because we NEED a start button.
2) maybe program a start button into the game gear emulator at the bottom where the toolbar is, this task I feel might prove to be very difficult
3) program the Jog dial push in to act as a start button. That would be kinda cool actually

Last response I heard from sega was that they were not planning on releasing for other models besides PALM. it was quite a rude response at that.

[hansschmucker]

Tabs are out of question as the program performs the check pretty low level. The jog button however is not. Boy, I'm sounding like I actually knew how to do this, which I have no idea about. But generally, all buttons as well as th jogdial have number assigned to them. The home and co buttons on the silkscreen area issue this number much too late (actually on a different level, but what the heck). So using these buttons would require a rewrite which is 99% impossible in assembler.