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ferdiyan
09-18-2006, 04:03 AM
Dear friends,

I'm having a hard time finding a UX50 battery replacement as online retailers won't send the batteries to where I live.

So, after poking around, I found that the Ipod 3rd Gen battery size is similar to the UX50:
3gen Ipod: 48.5 x 32 x 5.3 (LxWxH in mm) or 1.91 x 1.26 x 0.21 (in inch)
UX50 : 48 x 30 x 4 (in mm).

Ipods are popular here, so chances for the ipod battery is better than the UX50's.

Has anybody done this before ?

Thanx in advance.

Ferdiyan

m0nkeyb0y
09-18-2006, 05:03 AM
that 1.3mm height difference may cause a big problem when dealing with the very constrained internal dimensions of the UX...

antoinepierre
09-18-2006, 05:46 AM
Dear friends,
I'm having a hard time finding a UX50 battery replacement as online retailers won't send the batteries to where I live...
Ferdiyan :eek: Where do you live ??

E-bay retailers ship everywhere, no ?

eva-01
11-07-2006, 11:57 AM
most of the replacement batteries i've found are rated at 850mAh.

BUT

i have found a 1100mAh battery on http://www.pdasmart.com/ipodpartscenter3g.htm

so it maybe worth looking into.

feanedhel
11-15-2006, 04:07 PM
For what it's worth, I've just installed a thrid generation ipod replacement battery in my ux50. Thanks for the idea. It is a sonnet (model# BAT-3G) and only 850mAh (sniff). However, it fit like a glove--perfect!. A few things:
1. I had to clip the wires so I could use Sony's original socket plug. The contacts which insert into the sockets are a different diameter and lenth.
2. It had 3 wires. I just taped over the white to keep it out of trouble.

chacalau
11-15-2006, 04:56 PM
wow, impressive work. Does it increase the "operaiton time"?

m0nkeyb0y
11-16-2006, 04:11 AM
Any pictures at all?

feanedhel
11-16-2006, 08:40 AM
wow, impressive work. Does it increase the "operaiton time"?

It was getting to the point that I could only read for an hour on the lowest brightness setting, or if I took it out to my car where it was cold (I live in Saskatchewan, Canada) I may only get through two or three mp3s.

Last night after the new battery and a full charge, I read for an hour, watched most of a movie (Holy Grail) and still had charge to spare when I went to bed. So yeah, there is a bit of improvement.

feanedhel
11-16-2006, 11:41 AM
Pictures for the interested...

This is the packaging for the new battery
http://static.flickr.com/105/298847151_a9864ed6c3_m.jpg

Clie disassembled. The connectors are already switched.
http://static.flickr.com/114/298847154_2275ac204e.jpg

Close-up of the (quite delicate) plastic pieces.
http://static.flickr.com/119/298847155_e3df9e8f6b_m.jpg

New battery in place!
http://static.flickr.com/113/298847156_fd2675eb5b.jpg

m0nkeyb0y
11-17-2006, 03:00 AM
And everything fits neatly back together? I thought (as above!) that the iPod batteries were too thick to fit in the case.

feanedhel
11-17-2006, 08:02 AM
And everything fits neatly back together? I thought (as above!) that the iPod batteries were too thick to fit in the case.

you know, the only thing I had to worry about was getting the white wire lined up along the top of the battery so it wasn't adding extra thickness.

I couldn't find dimensional specs on sonnet's website, so either their battery is not the same size as the one mentioned by Ferdiyan (seems unlikely), or there was a bit of extra room in the UX case (who'd have thought?). The silver wrap/tape that they put on the batteries does also have a bit of flex to it...

Anyhow, the case closed fine with no fuss and has been working beautifully since. If someone puts in a higher mAh bat, I'd sure love to hear about it.

m0nkeyb0y
11-17-2006, 09:36 AM
Try this one (http://www.1src.com/forums/showthread.php?t=102683) here! ;)

eva-01
11-17-2006, 04:00 PM
found the 1100mAh batteries at PDASmart and Battery Upgrade for quite reasonable prices $45 and £19.29 respectively

word of warning - they seem to be lithium ion and not lithium polymer

but since you have demonstrated that they fit someone may be crazy enough to do it. i wont i only just got my UX50 (ps its sooo cool)

JAmerican
12-09-2006, 03:58 PM
Doesn't the white cable tell the iPod that the battery is full and to stop charging? Hence, will the battery continue to charge once the battery is full? Is there a circuit on the battery that tells the device when to stop charging?

foromerm
12-10-2006, 05:22 AM
I am thinking of replacing my UX50's battery but i would love to now which wire goes were on the white bit and whats the highest mah ipod battery you can get?

dragonsgames
12-25-2006, 06:49 PM
Wow, what a cool mod! How many hours of Bluetooth/WiFi you get? Does it work fine? Any battery problems, such as over-charging?

Kane3_162
12-26-2006, 01:11 AM
Just to let u all know when I get to Cali and get my PC plugged in (on old crappy lappy lol) I have both a 1200MAH and 1500MAH (1500MAH batt is in the clie) and they both work (1500MAH needed to be re-wrapped with a little tighter skin :) ) however it works like a charm and i get double the time, when I get to cali (around the 2nd) I will definitely post pics and the Batt tester statistics...


And of course if I can get them for discount ill be selling them to those who want them (will also be finishing up my long awaited EB40 replacement project after JAmerican tests and approves for me :P )


Laterz

dragonsgames
12-26-2006, 11:25 AM
Wow! A 1,500mAH battery in the UX?

Vagrant
01-03-2007, 12:52 PM
Yeah, I need a new battery for my UX50 as well. I have the spare EB40, but it's not enough.

AzlBigKid
01-28-2007, 06:08 AM
I've been reading this thread with interest as after 3 years my UX50's battery life has finally got to the point where I can't use it as much as I need to. I have an EB50 but carrying it around can be annoying.

So I have just bought an 1100 mah iPod 3rd gen upgrade battery. I'll try fitting it when it arrives and let you guys know how I get on. I chose this battery as they seem to be easy to get hold of and pretty cheap so if I can't get it to fit it won't really matter.

caseyatbt
01-28-2007, 03:02 PM
Just to let u all know when I get to Cali and get my PC plugged in (on old crappy lappy lol) I have both a 1200MAH and 1500MAH (1500MAH batt is in the clie) and they both work (1500MAH needed to be re-wrapped with a little tighter skin :) ) however it works like a charm and i get double the time, when I get to cali (around the 2nd) I will definitely post pics and the Batt tester statistics...


And of course if I can get them for discount ill be selling them to those who want them (will also be finishing up my long awaited EB40 replacement project after JAmerican tests and approves for me :P )


Is your 1500mah battery the same one as the above mentioned iPod battery?
Did you find them for a discount yet?

jc

foromerm
01-28-2007, 03:50 PM
yeah its an ipod battery but 1/2 generation

dragonsgames
01-28-2007, 04:51 PM
1/2 Generation? Later on, can you post a complete how-to? Please? :)

foromerm
01-28-2007, 05:28 PM
its not my mod but Kane3_162's you can get it when he launchs his site empulsegaming.com i emailed him since i ordered it already and he helped me out though i doubt if he wud be happy if lots of people sent him emails asking how i would just wait for his site for the step by step guide (with a video tutorial!!)
though i have to say its amazing i have clearly tripled or quadrepled my battery life with a very easy mod!

fallingstar
01-29-2007, 02:43 AM
this is my solution for all clie with bad battery : try to get a big capacity polymer li ion battery, it must thin enough, with a side of length, width smaller than side of backside of clie! now , you remove the pcb board on original clie's battery, the pcb board on new battery must remove too, then solder a new battery cell with clie's PCB board! after all you must cut a backside of you clie a area with side of your new battery and use glue to attach new battery with new backside :D attach new battery to clie board > check clie =work good==> use some thin mica panel (width= depth of battery)to make a new case for battery==> use paint to make you new clie nice !
sorry about i learn E not well :( i will try apply to my clie nx80V first and take some picture

AzlBigKid
02-09-2007, 08:16 AM
I have successfully fitted the 1100mah battery I ordered. It was a bit of a job as the battery is really 1/2 mm too thick for the inside of the UX. I removed part of the battery compartment wall to get it in and with the case closed I have about a 1/2 mm gap on the right hand side where that battery is. You have to look pretty closely to notice the gap though.

After I refitted the casing the cradle charging contacts didn't quite touch the contacts on the back of the UX. So I put a small blob of solder on the contacts on the charging cradle and it now charges properly.

Here is the link to the battery I bought :

http://www.mdsbattery.co.uk/shop/productprofile.asp?Model=&ProductGroupID=1953&Brand=&DepartmentName=&DepartmentID=189

The battery lasts for ages, so I am delighted to have my UX back in service. I have yet to see how long it really will last though.

dragonsgames
02-09-2007, 06:52 PM
Wow, report back on how long it lasts!

foromerm
02-10-2007, 06:48 AM
i find on mu UX with a battery of 1500 mah it last about 4-5 of net surfing and mp3 playback which is so cool i bought mine from mds as well

dragonsgames
02-10-2007, 01:07 PM
So it's like a EB40 built in... dang.

caseyatbt
02-10-2007, 07:26 PM
i find on mu UX with a battery of 1500 mah it last about 4-5 of net surfing and mp3 playback which is so cool i bought mine from mds as well
Did you buy the iPod battery?

dave90
02-10-2007, 07:29 PM
Sounds encouraging.

How about the white wire?

nicolfa
02-20-2007, 07:02 PM
I too would be very interested in battery options (internal) ... the battery life on my ux40 is miserable compared to my NX73. I love everything about the UX, just not the short life on the battery.

Looking for a prepackaged 1200 or 1500 MAH internal battery mod, if some interprising person were to have one available.

DanT
02-21-2007, 07:46 PM
If anyone wants to replace the internal battery with a new 900 mAh for $30.00 including return shipping, just send me a PM.

AzlBigKid
02-22-2007, 02:33 AM
I think the only pre-packaged battery that will fit straight in is a standard replacement from Sony which I didn't think was worth buying. No matter which battery you get, it will still have to have the existing charging circuit board removed (as I had to with the ipod battery I bought) and the battery plug attached.

Believe me, I am no expert with a soldering iron. I bought one with some thin wire and practiced for a while before working on the new battery, wires and plug.

The results are superb. I watched 45 mins of an mp4 movie the other day with screen and sound up full. Afterwards the battery was still showing 100%

:-)

DanT
02-22-2007, 09:06 PM
I don't understand what you are talking about. I thought the charging circuitboard comes with the battery. I've replaced several CLIE batteries (TH55, SJ20, and N760C) and they are pretty straight forward (just open the case, unplug the power connector, and replace the new battery), as described by this UX battery replacement instruction (http://www.pdainternalbattery.com/clie/up5530install.htm) for example.

dragonsgames
02-22-2007, 09:20 PM
Neither do I... :confused:

AzlBigKid
02-23-2007, 06:26 AM
Sorry guys, I was referring to if you want to get a battery that has alot more capacity into the UX. Not the standard replacements on offer. I couldn't find a battery anywhere with over 1000mah which would fit easily and came with the right plug. Which is why i did the mod.

DanT
02-23-2007, 06:56 AM
I think those mAh numbers are depended upon the battery size. I've seen some 3rd party manufacturers advertize TH55 batteries with 1400 mAh, for example this eBay Item number: 250086735229 (http://cgi.ebay.com/BATTERY-for-NR70-NR70V-NX60-NX80-SJ33-TG50-TH55-PDA-WX_W0QQitemZ250086735229QQihZ015QQcategoryZ75435QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem), which indicates to have 40% more capacity than the Sony battery. When I bought it and tested with Battery TIME 1.84 (http://palmgear.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=software.showsoftware&PartnerREF=&siteid=1&prodID=45712), its discharge test showed 3.5 hours versus over 5 hours for the Sony 1000mAh. See my posts and others in this Battery life incredible (http://www.1src.com/forums/showthread.php?t=42896) thread in TH55 forum.

The moral of the story is you need to take such claims with a grain of salt. Brand names do reflect quality assurance.

Your old Sony battery might just be plain old. Its life cycle only lasts 2 years. The new and lower mAh Sony batteries for UX series are probably just as good as the other "over 1000 mAh" 3rd. party batteries, if not better.

fallingstar
02-23-2007, 07:53 AM
@DanT that's right !
how long can u use you CLie ? it's đepend on capacity but ! 3rd party bartery is not good ! may be they faked you that it have big capacity ! so you can choose the another good bartery to mod for your clie ! may be it is sony high capacity battery for PSP(1800mah) , or HP hx4700 high capacity battery (3600 :(() but if you want to mod i think may be u must break a back side of CLie :D

caseyatbt
02-23-2007, 08:08 AM
I have a problem. I have purchased 2 different UX replacement batteries(non-Sony). After installation, I charge them and run Battery Time and both of them only lasted 45-50 minutes. Is this to be expected for non-Sony batteries or is there something wrong with my UX?

dave90
02-25-2007, 03:32 PM
Has anyone had any luck with the empulsegaming site mentioned above? They say they will e-mail instructions for the 1400 mah battery. I sent my e-mail, but still waiting. I wonder what battery he recommends.

Hope this is better than the results caseyatbt had.

d90

dragonsgames
02-25-2007, 03:39 PM
Same here, no email back....

dave90
02-25-2007, 03:41 PM
i find on mu UX with a battery of 1500 mah it last about 4-5 of net surfing and mp3 playback which is so cool i bought mine from mds as well

Hi foromerm;
Can you link to the 1500 battery you purchased?

Did you re-wrap the battery?

Still waiting for Kane/empulsegaming mod instructions.

TKS
D90

cma371
02-26-2007, 05:20 PM
Anybody try a 4th gen. Ipod batery?

dave90
02-26-2007, 06:00 PM
Seems empulsegaming got a bunch of spam this week and that possibly diluted our e-mails. Notice posted today.

Good luck to the fellow.

D90

nicolfa
02-27-2007, 12:16 AM
Would be cool to see a prepackaged 1200 MAH or above battery offered, already re-wrapped :0

AzlBigKid
02-28-2007, 09:53 AM
I did a discharge test using Battery Time to see if this iPod battery I squeezed in is any good. I put the screen up full and the battery discharged from 100% to 10% in 2hrs 55mins.

dragonsgames
02-28-2007, 11:09 AM
The 1,100 mAH one? What did you get with the 800 mAH one?

AzlBigKid
03-01-2007, 10:16 AM
I did the test with the 1,100 mah battery. My old sony battery only managed 30 mins before I did the mod,

caseyatbt
03-01-2007, 04:10 PM
I did the test with the 1,100 mah battery. My old sony battery only managed 30 mins before I did the mod,
Where did you buy the battery from. Can you provide a link?

dragonsgames
03-01-2007, 04:45 PM
Oh wow, then quite an improvement!

cma371
03-05-2007, 10:01 AM
Did anyone figure out whether removing the white wire from the Ipod 3rd gen. battery will affect the charging?

dave90
03-05-2007, 03:40 PM
Did anyone figure out whether removing the white wire from the Ipod 3rd gen. battery will affect the charging?

My question also.

AzlBigKid
03-08-2007, 01:23 PM
Caseyatbt, I posted a link to the battery i bought earlier in this thread, check out page 2.

I'm using my UX loads again, which is great, and only charging it every few days.

AzlBigKid
03-08-2007, 02:07 PM
By the way, when I removed the pcb from the ipod battery the white wire went with it. That only left the positive and negative battery contacts to attach to the 2 wires attached to the sony plug. I did have a good look at the existing sony battery pcb to try and make sure I wasn't missing anything.

I have thoroughly tested charging to make sure I haven't created an exploding UX and the battery charges up to 4.2 V when on the cradle then the charging light goes out, just as you would expect with the old sony battery.

I'm not an electonics wizard though so someone may point out that I missed something. Though I did the mod some weeks ago now and it is still working perfectly. In the past I have seen posts on blown charging circuits so I was aware of the risks when I decided to try the mod. But I wasn't using it because of battery life anyway, so I figured what the hell, why not have ago.

cma371
03-10-2007, 09:34 PM
Did you remove the white wire and PCB?

Did you take the Sony PCB and attach to Ipod battery or only changed the plug.

dragonsgames
03-10-2007, 09:51 PM
By the way, when I removed the pcb from the ipod battery the white wire went with it. That only left the positive and negative battery contacts to attach to the 2 wires attached to the sony plug. I did have a good look at the existing sony battery pcb to try and make sure I wasn't missing anything.

I have thoroughly tested charging to make sure I haven't created an exploding UX and the battery charges up to 4.2 V when on the cradle then the charging light goes out, just as you would expect with the old sony battery.

I'm not an electonics wizard though so someone may point out that I missed something. Though I did the mod some weeks ago now and it is still working perfectly. In the past I have seen posts on blown charging circuits so I was aware of the risks when I decided to try the mod. But I wasn't using it because of battery life anyway, so I figured what the hell, why not have ago.

So do you suggest purchasing the battery and doing the mod? I don't want to pay $24 +shipping and find out it was a bad idea. I see you get about 4x the battery life (with only 350mAH more)

dragonsgames
03-10-2007, 10:35 PM
I just ordered the battery. It says it is going to take 7 days to ship, so I will update when it arrives!

dave90
03-11-2007, 09:32 AM
Good luck dragonsgames;

Let us know.

This PCB thing would be easier if we had a pic or two.

D90

caseyatbt
03-12-2007, 07:05 AM
Good luck dragonsgames;

Let us know.

This PCB thing would be easier if we had a pic or two.

D90

I second that. I am about to buy that battery too.

dave90
03-14-2007, 04:52 PM
good luck to caseyatbt also.

D90

dragonsgames
03-17-2007, 08:24 PM
Battery still hasn't arrived... maybe it will arive Monday. I will keep you guys posted.

ahhl
03-18-2007, 06:11 AM
i am getting the 2200 mAh, ordered on 15 march from ebay

dragonsgames
03-18-2007, 12:31 PM
2200 mAH? Will that fit? :eek:

ahhl
03-19-2007, 12:18 AM
donno....it it doesn't fit i'll just do JC-40 mode and put it inside there

ahhl
03-20-2007, 08:06 AM
well...my 1st/2nd gen ipod battery arrived today.............:( and it the slightly smaller than JC40 and can fit nicely there as its same thickness as our clie battery..

now can anyone confirm the size of 3rd gen ipod battery moreless same size of our ux, i want to order that 1100mAh.......:p

m0nkeyb0y
03-20-2007, 09:12 AM
...but....if you can fit 2 UX batteries into the JC40 giving ~1800mAh, why bother with the iPod battery?

dragonsgames
03-20-2007, 09:57 AM
now can anyone confirm the size of 3rd gen ipod battery moreless same size of our ux, i want to order that 1100mAh.......:p
It hasn't gotten here yet... :(

ahhl
03-20-2007, 09:20 PM
...but....if you can fit 2 UX batteries into the JC40 giving ~1800mAh, why bother with the iPod battery?
actually i thought that 2200mAh can fit in ux:rolleyes: , that why i purchase it. now i am stuck with it....so have to make full use of it..

looking on brighter side, the battery is tinner than our UX battery, less wiring, its also li-poly:D anyway iam getting 2200 mAh instead of 1800mAh:D

m0nkeyb0y
03-21-2007, 04:48 AM
Fairy nuff - that sounds good ;)

ahhl
03-21-2007, 07:32 AM
just wondering since ipod battery is 3.7v and ux always charge up to 4.2v, will it non-stop charging as ipod battery would not reach 4.2v?

should i just change the connector and use ipod charging circuit?
or i have to replaced the ipod charging circuit with ux charging circuit. (looking at it, ipod circuit board is longer than ux one, just wonder if there any effect?)

any suggestion?

wait a minute... i notice the ux battery sell at ebay and mds also rated at 3.7v..

well should not be any problem than:D

dragonsgames
03-22-2007, 05:10 PM
Battery got here today... it is too wide! :(
I took some pictures, but I am off to the Hospital now (I might have some Kidney problems...) so I will post some pictures later tonight.

caseyatbt
03-22-2007, 08:10 PM
......but I am off to the Hospital now (I might have some Kidney problems...)

I hope everything is okay :eek:

dragonsgames
03-22-2007, 08:19 PM
Well I am going to get some xrays tomorrow....
I am uploading the photos now to Flickr. I will give the link when they are ready.
EDIT: http://flickr.com/photos/derekwilkinson/sets/72157600016921292/
Those are all the pics
http://flickr.com/photos/derekwilkinson/430911755/in/set-72157600016921292/
That metal bar is the only reason it won't fit. I just don't know how to remove it, so that I can fit it in.... :(

cma371
03-22-2007, 08:51 PM
any info on the white wire? did you try and charge it while it was apart?

dragonsgames
03-22-2007, 08:54 PM
I can't charge it because it won't close... :(

m0nkeyb0y
03-23-2007, 03:45 AM
http://flickr.com/photos/derekwilkinson/430911755/in/set-72157600016921292/
That metal bar is the only reason it won't fit. I just don't know how to remove it, so that I can fit it in.... :(

I suspect that with a pair of long nose pliers and a bit of brute force, you should be able to bend the metal divider and then snap it off. I think that is how Hippo managed to modify the internals of his UX to fit the famous hot-swap battery.

Bullitt
03-23-2007, 08:52 AM
or take a look at mexiKans mod here (http://www.1src.com/forums/showthread.php?t=114839&highlight=mod) ! (post #27)
he described very well how removing that disturbing metal parts, but it seems like hard work ! i would also suggest you usin a dremel.

Good Luck

dragonsgames
03-23-2007, 04:42 PM
That does sound like a lot of hard work... I am going to reseach for a better option...

dave90
03-24-2007, 08:07 AM
That mysterious white wire?

D90

dragonsgames
03-24-2007, 08:50 AM
Well, I was able to fit the battery in (kind of) but I don't think it was charging... I left it on the cradle for an hour, then took it off, and it refused to turn on. :(

cma371
03-24-2007, 08:57 AM
crazy, nobody can explain the white wire.

Can you simply ignore it or do you have to swap the charging circuit from the old clie battery with the ipod?

dragonsgames
03-24-2007, 09:00 AM
I believe that the white wire makes sure the battery doesn't overcharge, but I think the UX50 has this feature on the motherboard. I am not sure, so doing this can be dangerous.

dave90
03-24-2007, 09:29 AM
I just purchased these batteries:

http://cgi.ebay.com/Replacement-for-Apple-iPod-1st-2nd-Gen-Battery-1600mAh_W0QQitemZ320069387384QQcategoryZ118261QQtcZphotoQQcmdZViewItem
http://cgi.ebay.com/Replacement-for-Apple-iPod-1st-2nd-Gen-Battery-2200mAh_W0QQitemZ320069387403QQcategoryZ118261QQtcZphotoQQcmdZViewItem

Camerion Sino (sp) supposidly good. Hope not fakes.

D90

dragonsgames
03-24-2007, 01:17 PM
I doubt if those will fit in the UX50...

dave90
03-24-2007, 02:21 PM
I'll give it a go. What about the Kane 1600 MAH battery mod. Does it involve cut and rearrange. Never seen which battery Kane uses and the site does not have the info yet. I am a member of the forum even. No one here posted which battery Kane/Foromerm has had luck with. Just a teaser so far.

If I have luck w the above batteries, I will post. Can't guarantee the safety of the project of course. My risk for my machine only.

Soon
D90

dave90
03-24-2007, 02:31 PM
If the 2200MAH battery doesn't fit in the UX50, I will try it in the EB40. Who knows.

D90

ahhl
03-24-2007, 06:29 PM
dave90
i am using 220mAh Cameron Sino now, can confirm it does not fit into UX, but it have the base size is smaller than JC40 and you can fit it there.

i am not willing to do Hippo mod, i.e cutting the charging ribon on UX, so i just piggy back the battery under neath UX, connect direct to the internal battery connector (internal battery taken out)

battery life 4hrs on 100% light and ptunes on
i just wondering if i do paralell connection to JC40 internal connector, will it works?

dragonsgames
03-24-2007, 08:06 PM
What does the JC40 look like inside? How hard is it to put in a battery?

caseyatbt
03-25-2007, 08:42 AM
I'll give it a go. What about the Kane 1600 MAH battery mod. Does it involve cut and rearrange. Never seen which battery Kane uses and the site does not have the info yet. I am a member of the forum even. No one here posted which battery Kane/Foromerm has had luck with. Just a teaser so far.

If I have luck w the above batteries, I will post. Can't guarantee the safety of the project of course. My risk for my machine only.

Soon
D90

dave90, what is Kane's website link?

m0nkeyb0y
03-25-2007, 09:51 AM
What does the JC40 look like inside? How hard is it to put in a battery?
Have another look at Hippo's mod or click the JC40 link in my signature for pics.

dave90
03-25-2007, 09:58 AM
http://www.empulsegaming.com/

D90

ahhl
03-25-2007, 11:24 PM
Just want to show how big is that 2200mAh compare with UX. i have attached the battery with the plastic cover that come together withe the battery so it flexible. the wire going thru the stylus pocket that already broken so it is not so obvious.:D

totololo
03-26-2007, 01:20 AM
Hmm, i find it very interesting ahhl.
Maybe something more beautiful as a cover is possible. The problem is the reset hole, so you have to use a flexible mounting system, i guess ...

ahhl
03-26-2007, 01:45 AM
that the reason i have removable plastic cover which i have option to remove the battery and reach the reset button.

]looking at third photo] bottom part i just use clear tape to attached to ux, to part i create a lid and slot into the middle rotatable ux neck.

anytime i can upen the cover and put ux on the cradle if i wish except the battery will be dangling in front of the ux when i charge it. i have also mod the usb port so that i do not have to open so often.

m0nkeyb0y
03-26-2007, 04:19 AM
That battery looks like it might even be too large to go in the JC40 or EB40 mod when you allow for the inclusion of the required USB port....

AzlBigKid
03-26-2007, 06:44 AM
Dragonsgames, sorry for not replying sooner I've been away on holiday the last couple of weeks.

To get the battery I got to fit I removed that battery compartment wall using a pair of pliers as posted by one of the other guys here. It only took a minute. I removed a couple of millimeters at a time starting at one end.

The pics you posted look very much like the battery I bought, have you removed the PCB on the battery? That also made it a bit thinner. It won't charge if the battery PCB is still attached.

I couldn't post pics of my mod as I had leant my digi camera to someone at the time.

In answer to a couple of the other posts, I removed the white wire altogether, as far as I have discovered, it is not needed and I have done charging and discharging tests.

dragonsgames
03-26-2007, 03:50 PM
Sorry for my lack of battery knowledge, but what is PCB? :o

I remove part of the battery compartment wall, so you removed the whole thing with plieres? I tried doing that and part of it came off... I will try again next time.

Where did you order the battery from? We might have the same one... ;)

cma371
03-26-2007, 08:18 PM
when you removed the PCB, didn't you have to re-solder the wires to the ends of the battery? The black wire would then be too short.

dragonsgames
03-26-2007, 09:05 PM
Where is the PCB on this battery? :o

Edit: Found it. So do I remove it, and attach the wire to the metal parts on it? If so, how? If not, what do I do? :o

dragonsgames
03-26-2007, 09:50 PM
I was able to remove the PCB, then hook up the battery. I made the wire extra long so that I could leave the battery plugged in, but not inside the unit. When I put it on the JC40, the CLIE turns on, but it isn't charging... Any ideas?

dragonsgames
03-26-2007, 11:01 PM
Well, after messing up my speaker (!!! :mad: !!!) I am not going to do this mod. I think I am going to have Chris Short fix the speaker, and have him do the JC40 mod. When this is all done... I will be selling my EB40 if anyone wants it ;)

cma371
03-27-2007, 05:12 PM
I removed the PCB and soldered the sony wires to the Ipod battery. The battery is too thick and while it powered up the case won't close. Has anybody bought a battery for the Sony on ebay, they are listed between 750-900Mah. Anybody have input on which works well and from which seller.

dragonsgames
03-27-2007, 05:20 PM
Did it power while off the cradle? The unit can turn on without a battery if on the cradle.

AzlBigKid
03-28-2007, 08:09 AM
I removed the printed circuit board (PCB) from the battery using a soldering iron. Then I soldered the wires directly to the battery contacts (make sure you get them the right way round). I then attached the wires to the sony plug and plugged it in to the motherboard (MoBo).

Because it made the UX a fraction thicker around the cradle contacts it didn't charge without me pressing it down. So I added a small amount of solder to the cradle contacts and the UX charges perfectly after that.

Depending on which battery you have you may have to rewrap it. I read someone else's post about having to do that to make the battery a bit thinner. I didn't rewrap mine. As I mentioned in a previous post the case on my UX doesn't close perfectly, there is a small gap where the battery is. Only other UX owners would spot it though.

Juggster
04-01-2007, 08:08 AM
I've just done a battery mod to my UX50, i have fitted a sonyerricsson t610 battery inside, cos i had it laying arround, and my clie battery was dead. I then also ordered a ipod gen1 battery, and fitted this under the clie.
The sonyericsson battery is about 800mah and the ipod battery is 1500mah, this means my clie now has 2300mah of power! i have been playing about with it and the battery life is incredible!!!! once i conduct a full test i will let you know how long the battery lasts for!

here are some pics those:

http://img478.imageshack.us/img478/1277/0204071359qx3.th.jpg (http://img478.imageshack.us/my.php?image=0204071359qx3.jpg)

http://img488.imageshack.us/img488/8179/0204071400ff3.th.jpg (http://img488.imageshack.us/my.php?image=0204071400ff3.jpg)

http://img483.imageshack.us/img483/3512/0204071401rh6.th.jpg (http://img483.imageshack.us/my.php?image=0204071401rh6.jpg)

As you can see it doesn't really add much thickness to it....

dragonsgames
04-01-2007, 09:28 AM
But kind of ugly... sorry, but sounds cool!

Juggster
04-02-2007, 06:05 AM
i have to agree with you on that one.... i am gonna try figure out a bit of a nicer fitting method... at the time of doing all i could find was my roll of ducktape... hehehhe

totololo
04-02-2007, 06:48 AM
maybe just a back cover made of aluminium plate would be nicer ?

ahhl
04-03-2007, 01:48 AM
Juggster
do you parallell connect the t610 and ipod 1st gen battery and connect to the internal UX battery connector?

dave90
04-03-2007, 09:07 AM
Well, my recently ordered batteries are too big for the UX and EB-40. Never give up.

D90

dave90
04-03-2007, 09:14 AM
Just ordered Azlbigkid battery linked.

D90

Juggster
04-04-2007, 12:36 PM
ahhl: yea they are wired in parallel.... i might cover the bottom in some black leather i think to smarten it up a bit

nghbk
01-31-2008, 02:41 AM
Is this too good to be true? :eek:
http://cgi.ebay.com/za25-Battery-For-Sony-Clie-UX40-UX50-UP5530-NEW_W0QQitemZ330206654843QQihZ014QQcategoryZ27435QQtcZphotoQQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

JAmerican
01-31-2008, 09:45 PM
Is this too good to be true? :eek:
http://cgi.ebay.com/za25-Battery-For-Sony-Clie-UX40-UX50-UP5530-NEW_W0QQitemZ330206654843QQihZ014QQcategoryZ27435QQtcZphotoQQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

Tks I got it :). I'll let you know how true it is or isn't. I really want to sell my TX and see if I can get my UX working for me again.

nghbk
02-01-2008, 12:34 AM
Hey J, I can't imagine you did it that swiftly. I sent the seller email to confirm about the capacity but there's no answer so, good luck , I looking forward to see your hours lasting Ux50

shatarys
02-01-2008, 12:51 AM
2000mAh??? It's strannge... I've been searching all around and can find only 750mAh batteries marked as "UP5530"...
Waiting for JAmerican's review...

m0nkeyb0y
02-01-2008, 02:19 AM
The lack of picture on the listing is a little questionable too. That or I'm just cynical and suspicious ;)

JAmerican
02-01-2008, 06:07 AM
My logic is hey its $20 and if it don't fit or work in my UX, then that goes against the listing. eBay will hear from me and so will the seller. Plus I was curious lol.

JAmerican
02-01-2008, 06:19 AM
I don't know what it is but whenever I play songs I usually hate on the UX, I start to like the song or video. Must be the way the UX looks.

pmj
02-16-2008, 06:47 PM
Hi JAmerican,

Have you received that 2000 mAh cell yet? I recently bought an ageing UX50 in need of a battery replacement, and am tossing up whether to buy one of these on eBay (from users wqtallup or zoo2003yy for example) or to do an iPod cell hack instead ...

–pmj

JAmerican
02-17-2008, 09:20 PM
Hi JAmerican,

Have you received that 2000 mAh cell yet? I recently bought an ageing UX50 in need of a battery replacement, and am tossing up whether to buy one of these on eBay (from users wqtallup or zoo2003yy for example) or to do an iPod cell hack instead ...

–pmj

Just got it today (placed in my mailbox yesterday). Guess what guys...

http://jamerican.net/UX50/SonyUX40Battery_ebay.jpg

Its time to file a complaint or open a dispute ;). I needed a new battery anyway but this is ridiculous. I hope I get a refund through PayPal or something. :).

I am going to test it out first.

JAmerican

nghbk
02-17-2008, 09:40 PM
oh, I should have known it better, good luck on your dispute J

JAmerican
02-17-2008, 10:00 PM
oh, I should have known it better, good luck on your dispute J

Yep :) I needed a new battery and it works so. I'm happy.

JAmerican

VaioRepair
02-17-2008, 10:43 PM
rofl. gotta love those crazy chinese scammers on ebay....

I recently got into it with some chinese guy in new york...guy advertised a genuine sony part, and imagine my surprise when i open the box, and it's a frakin' counterfeit...

I'm going to make a prediction, JAmerican....if you file a dispute, the guy will send you at least 3 emails, in really bad english, then he will proceed to neg you, AND open an "item not paid" claim against you after you've received your refund....and you'll be dealing with the jerk for a month or more.

i could be way off....my prediction tainted by my own bad experience, but hey...if it can happen to me, it can happen to anyone, lol

on the technical side....1000mah...that's a good improvement over the 750mah stock battery for the UX series...be sure to let us all know how long it lasts on a single charge..

JAmerican
02-17-2008, 11:21 PM
rofl. gotta love those crazy chinese scammers on ebay....

I recently got into it with some chinese guy in new york...guy advertised a genuine sony part, and imagine my surprise when i open the box, and it's a frakin' counterfeit...

I'm going to make a prediction, JAmerican....if you file a dispute, the guy will send you at least 3 emails, in really bad english, then he will proceed to neg you, AND open an "item not paid" claim against you after you've received your refund....and you'll be dealing with the jerk for a month or more.

i could be way off....my prediction tainted by my own bad experience, but hey...if it can happen to me, it can happen to anyone, lol

on the technical side....1000mah...that's a good improvement over the 750mah stock battery for the UX series...be sure to let us all know how long it lasts on a single charge..

I sent him an email saying I want a 2000mAh battery not a 1000mAh battery or a refund. If he doesn't reply. I'll probably just leave it alone since it was only $20. Cost less than buying a new battery @ ClieBattery.com

It's alive!! :)

http://jamerican.net/UX50/SonyUX50_Dash.jpg

JAmerican

VaioRepair
02-17-2008, 11:29 PM
right. However, if you ask for a refund, he's gonna want you to send it back, lol

JAmerican
02-18-2008, 12:52 PM
right. However, if you ask for a refund, he's gonna want you to send it back, lol

That's why I said forget it. I'd just keep it. BTW the battery sucks. goes to 20% after 1 hour batt test. Will post results later.

VaioRepair
02-18-2008, 02:47 PM
ew, crappy...

JAmerican
02-18-2008, 03:28 PM
ew, crappy...

You think I should complain and send it back requesting the seller give me the shipping to send it back.

JAmerican

DanT
02-18-2008, 09:31 PM
You should have gotten LG battery for UX from VincentChon.

VaioRepair
02-19-2008, 01:04 AM
You think I should complain and send it back requesting the seller give me the shipping to send it back.

JAmerican

lol. Ya' know..that's what i did with that chinese guy who sent me the counterfeit part....he absolutely flat out refused....try.

If he refuses, talk to paypal, they might hook you up with a service credit, to handle the return shipping, they did it for me.


Dan...what's this LG battery you speak of?

DanT
02-19-2008, 06:08 AM
Read post# 29, 30, and 35 of this thread: Magic of TH55 (http://www.1src.com/forums/showthread.php?t=140264&page=2&pp=15).

JAmerican
02-19-2008, 06:44 AM
Read post# 29, 30, and 35 of this thread: Magic of TH55 (http://www.1src.com/forums/showthread.php?t=140264&page=2&pp=15).

Is there a significant difference because UX battery life isn't really rated to last a day.

JAmerican

VaioRepair
02-19-2008, 09:57 AM
Holy ****....a 1400mah battery? JAmerican.....stock UX battery is 750mah (i'm sure you already know that)..this thing is nearly twice the battery.

Dan...you can confirm that this cell works in the UX (insofar as fitting, proper voltage, function, and charging circuitry), and lasts longer than the other aftermarket cells?

DanT
02-19-2008, 06:03 PM
Is there a significant difference because UX battery life isn't really rated to last a day.

JAmerican

You just need to run Battery Time 1.84 and see what you get from your battery.

DanT
02-19-2008, 06:12 PM
Holy ****....a 1400mah battery? JAmerican.....stock UX battery is 750mah (i'm sure you already know that)..this thing is nearly twice the battery.

Dan...you can confirm that this cell works in the UX (insofar as fitting, proper voltage, function, and charging circuitry), and lasts longer than the other aftermarket cells?

1400 mAh is for TH55. The UX50 battery compartment is a lot smaller than that of TH55. My guess is the LG battery for UX50 would still have 1000 mAh. You need to ask VincentChon for that. However, not all Li-Ion batteries are created equal. LG is as good as Sony, which can be as much as 50% better than most, with 50% of the cost of Sony batteries.

I've installed the LG batteries for UX in several UX50's no problem. I can check the one I just installed with Battery Time 1.84 and let you know the result later.

VaioRepair
02-19-2008, 06:48 PM
would be much appreciated. if we can be sure on the mah rating for the UX battery, and how long it lasts, i may be interested in acquiring a few.

JAmerican
02-19-2008, 11:43 PM
would be much appreciated. if we can be sure on the mah rating for the UX battery, and how long it lasts, i may be interested in acquiring a few.

Recharing my batt now and installed Batt test. Will conduct test in the morning BTW, the seller is offering me $5 due to typo. I'm thinking I deserve either $10 or more due to total price was $19. How much u think I should demand from him.

JAmerican

VaioRepair
02-25-2008, 08:23 PM
lol...i dunno. if the battery wasn't that much, take the 5, and move on.. and make sure he doesn't expect you to send the battery back.