T665C vs Ipaq

[Batman]

I have the T665C, and my brother-in-law is looking to buy a PDA and is trying to decide between the T665C and the Ipaq. Were any of you guys looking at an Ipaq and then decided on the Sony? If so, what swayed you?

I know the Ipaqs use the Windows CE operating system, and tend to cost more, but I never looked at the Ipaq for myself and need some info to help him out.

Thanks in advance.

[TAP2]

i've been looking and both and i've gone for the Sony Clie T675C.
The main reasons, I have been told the Windows CE OS ( or pocket pc 2002) have many bugs and crash.
The sony clie has a far better design, and in my opinion a MUCH MUCH nicer screen.
And Look At This Site!!!! You can download so much cool stuff.

Anyway, run a search for PDA on WWW.TOMSHARDWARE.COM
The Clie and Ipaq are similar results. In my PCFORMAT mag, the Clie wins - it isn't as compatable with stuff as the Ipaq but it is by far the best value and design.

[___]

The H1910 beats the screen of the T665 and has a lot better multimedia capabilities as it can play movies, mp3s, and even go on the internet through a cable with no extra modem. Don't forget, PPC has much better games.

[Ricoh Tek]

Originally posted by ___
The H1910 beats the screen of the T665 and has a lot better multimedia capabilities as it can play movies, mp3s, and even go on the internet through a cable with no extra modem. Don't forget, PPC has much better games.
.........WHATEVER!
I have a 665 and a 3970. The 1910 is a cut version at best. The screen on my iPaq is not as good as my 665 displaying photos. Movies CAN be played on the 665, there are some good games for PPC but there are games JUST as good now-a-days on Palm 4.1 and higher. Not to mention that STILL most PPC device can't handle multibutton presses while gaming.
Not to mention I'm playing MP3's on my 665 which DON'T suddenly stop and start as they have done on EVERY PPC device I've owned (thanks Windows Media Player!)
Microsoft dosen't even support Xscale processors and it's proven that 206 mhz are out performing.
What sways me most to keep using my Sony is better battery life, more intuitive, less hassle!

[sindu]

My $0.02 comment:

Before you decide T665 or Ipaq, you must look at the plaform or OS that run the machine. T665 uses Palm and Ipaq uses PPC. Palm OS is so much more efficient than PPC, it is not resource hungry (RAM, Power, CPU). Palm OS is also much more simpler and intuitive than PPC. With Sony (my choice of Palm based PDA), you are ensure that there will be continous improvement on both hardware and software as shown in T and NX series.

This is in addition to the comment of Ricoh and Tap2 which are generally correct.

[___]

Originally posted by Ricoh Tek

.........WHATEVER!
I have a 665 and a 3970. The 1910 is a cut version at best. The screen on my iPaq is not as good as my 665 displaying photos. Movies CAN be played on the 665, there are some good games for PPC but there are games JUST as good now-a-days on Palm 4.1 and higher. Not to mention that STILL most PPC device can't handle multibutton presses while gaming.
Not to mention I'm playing MP3's on my 665 which DON'T suddenly stop and start as they have done on EVERY PPC device I've owned (thanks Windows Media Player!)
Microsoft dosen't even support Xscale processors and it's proven that 206 mhz are out performing.
What sways me most to keep using my Sony is better battery life, more intuitive, less hassle!

Learn to read. I'm not talking about your crappy 3970. I'm talking about H1910. BTW, PPC games are not JUST AS GOOD as palm. They are a lot better. www.ionside.com no comparison. Lol, "movies CAN be played on the 665" compare that with H1910 playing divX. Your 665 will look like its playing a slide show. Yeah don't argue...you and your biased opinion.

[___]

By the way, the H1910 has better battery life as the T665 and is smaller than the T665. The H1910 can also go on the internet with no added hardware unlike the 665.

[elbert27]

Forget about the IPAQ and T665! Get the NEW Clie TX65!!! This thing will blow ago your IPAQ and T665!!!. Check out this link

http://www.clieuk.co.uk/index.shtml

[[Jett]-Mallize]

yeah.. if that existed... lol

[harbx]

Forget about the IPAQ and T665! Get the NEW Clie TX65!!! This thing will blow ago your IPAQ and T665!!!. Check out this link

Ummm... I think that the Tx65 would have a price that would put it out of the current league the T665 price is based on. With that kind of stats... :rolleyes:

I don't really remember which model is the H1910 but before I bought my T665C I was comparing it with the Toshiba Pocket PC models and some IPAQs, and I really couldn't decide for some time.

In the end, I went for the Clie mainly for the following:

- A discussion with Pocket PC and Clie sales people produced the following general comment "Windows CE tends to crash more compared to Palms"
- PPCs can play great movies compared to the palm, but what the heck, what is my PC at home with excellent speakers for then?
- Based on my needs of a PDA, Palm OS and Win CE doesn't make much difference.

SO basically? Check your needs.

[Spiral]

The HP 1910 has an excellent size for a PPC device. in terms of hardware (not OS), it outperforms the t665c. With PalmOS, the t655c performs quite well. No new Pocket PC's run on Win CE anymore, it was replaced by PPC2002 (the difference? don't ask me).

Tap2 stated that the Clie has a much nicer design than the Ipaq. Actually, in this case, I would say both have an excellent design, the hp1910 isn't big like other ppc, it is fairly small, light, and doesn't have the rocker, it has a d-pad (which i've heard is a fairly good one)

In terms of price, the t665c and the hp1910 are about matched. I'm not sure about the amount of accessories for the hp1910, but i don't think it's too many, but there aren't too many for the t665c anwyays.

Somethign else you (or your brother-in-law) might want to look at is expandable memory. The hp1910 uses SD, and the t665c uses memory stick. SD is (i've heard) faster, and I know it is smaller, cheaper, and has higher memory capacities (sony has memory stick pro now, but the t665c doesn't support that, the t665c can only take memory stick sup to 128 mb, or the memory stick select, which is like several 128 mb memory sticks stuck together, and you have to flip a switch to get between them).

The hp1910 has TFT screen, 240x320 resolution, the t665c has a TFT screen too (i think), but it has a 320x320 resolution, which is a bit better.

I think they're about matched for battery life, since the t665c doesn't really have great battery life, and the hp1910 has a small battery b/c it's so small.

"With Sony (my choice of Palm based PDA), you are ensure that there will be continous improvement on both hardware and software as shown in T and NX series" -only in hardware, and you have to buy a new machine to get it, Sony has released like one OS update, while Palm has released many, Sony isn't known for OS upgrades.

Movie playing supports more formats on the hp1910 and with a larger card, you can fit more movie. And you don't need conversion.

Games are definately better on PPC, in terms of how advanced they are, Palm games are ok still.

Palm devices do need less resources, which is why PPC devices has higher specs. Even PPC programs these days have a fairly good number of choices of programs, it is still less than palmOS tho.

Lastly, you might want to consider that the t665c in terms of hardware is outdated, and same with the OS. The 1910 is new-ish, and if you think its' 200mhz speed is too slow, there are overclocking programs out.

I know there's a review of the hp1910 on www.the-gadgeteer.com (i think they're pretty objective, since there's two of them that do reviews, and they use both ppc's and palms)

And remember that most people in this forum own a Sony device.

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The only reason I can think of for picking Palm over PPC is that it may be more reliable and more efficient. If you are looking for dazzle and entertainment, PPC definately, hands down, gets the cookies.

[TAP2]

Forget about the IPAQ and T665! Get the NEW Clie TX65!!! This thing will blow ago your IPAQ and T665!!!. Check out this link

That is amazing, when is it out in the uk and how much?

[TAP2]

O FOR GOD SAKE WHO THE F*** THINKS ITS FUNNY TO WIND PEOPLE UP WITH THINGS LIKE THAT.... BURn!!!!!!

[qwert231]

Spiral, where can I get more info on that Memory Stick Select you mentioned?

[Ricoh Tek]

Originally posted by ___


Learn to read. BTW, PPC games are not JUST AS GOOD as palm. They are a lot better.
Maybe you should follow your own advice, I never said Palm games were better, There are some that are "just as good". Personally I think all PPC and Palm games suck, I prefer my Game Boy Advance thank you ;)
As for my 'crappy' 3970, please show me where the 1910 is a 'better' machine for the exception of a removable battery. 200 mhz vs. 400 mhz
It dosen't have SDIO
, only 46 meg of user memory and NO expansion capability.
Hmmmm....methinks my 3970 ISN'T so crappy eh?
Besides all of this where do you get off saying I'm 'biased'?
I suppose if you were a Palm advocate and I raved on the Compaq you'd still call me biased.
I have both machines, I like both machines, I prefer my 665 for daily use for reasons stated, go troll somewhere else.