Was Wondering: .mov or .mqv??

[Trick]

I know it would be easier to just try this, but i am on my linux partition right now. If you can wach a .mqv file with quicktime after changing the file name to .mov, then can you watch a .mov on your nx that you've renamed to .mqv? get what i'm saying?

[cbulock]

No, it doesn't work. The file type that the Clie plays have to be very specific. It has to be 15fps, in MPEG-4 elementary format. It also accepts a few different bitrates and will do 320x240 and a smaller size too (whatever the low quality setting is, like 240x160 maybe). But, it won't just play any .MOV file, it has to be very specific.

[michael1960]

Yes, no chance to play MOVs without using the Image Converter first. And since IC is a Windows software, you may have to switch back to your Windows partition to do that. ;)

[nx70]

Yeah, but why changing to MOV???
A MQV file plays natively without renaming. I only address it once to QT that's all.

[hansschmucker]

Problem is, a MQV file is not exactly a MOV file. It's a modified MP4 file. However MP4 is based on quicktime, so it's quite similar. Anyway, the important part is MODIFIED. While the data is in standard MP4 format (they even kept this strange x114 resolution), the header is not. A bit of hacking should make it possible to play MP4s on Clié, so whoever feels up to the task....

[UZI4U182]

Funny how Sony doesn't include Mac support on their CLIEs yet they base their movie system all on a program and its file extensions that was made by Apple themselves.

[Homie_S]

Originally posted by UZI4U182
Funny how Sony doesn't include Mac support on their CLIEs yet they base their movie system all on a program and its file extensions that was made by Apple themselves.

I sure wasn't suprised. I'm a Sony fanboy for sure (PDA, Headphones, PC, etc), but sometimes they do some pretty stupid things.

[nx70]

Macintosh and Apple have the same roots, but it does not mean, they are equal. QT was ever since included with Sony products, for this is the multimedia standard.
But this does not mean they support MacOS. Maybe because MacOS is so simple, easy to use and well designed. If I were a industrialist I would also stick to some inferior to keep my customers all time dependend on my efforts..
In my eyes the cost factor is too high compared to the percentage of PDA-buying MacOS fans. And that way SONY specialices itself for better productivity. But strange it is of course. Palm supports Apple, so this could be easily be done.

[UZI4U182]

I'm not complaining really, because I love the .mqv format, it just doesn't seem to make much sense to me. If they added this, they should have added Mac support as well.

[Orincarnia]

ok i got music videos that are in (1024 X um whatever the vertical is) and then i convert them and they're in the 320 X 2something) but can i convert what the movies i took on the pda to the 1024 size
?

[nx70]

With QT6 Pro in fact you can. But this makes not really sense since this would cause your films to be very poor in quality and the zoom functiopn in any movie player makes the same- without changing the size of your actual file..

[hansschmucker]

Originally posted by nx70
QT was ever since included with Sony products, for this is the multimedia standard.


Uhm, sorry to destroy your fantasies there, but MOV is by all means NOT the multimedia standard. It's good for trailers and so on, but nothing serious. Why? Simple, the windows version is really crappy!
a) Import/Export is a major pain in the ***. MPEG only without sound? Bye and thank you very much.
b) Editing is almost impossible with QTpro and there is no good freeware alternative (Import a video in let's say 640x480, then try to export in 352x288. It's impossible! Even with the same aspect ratio like 352x264 it's very hard as there is no way for a numeric entry. You have to resize the window, check the info window if you got the desired reult and if not, try again!)
c)The player is not free. It's crippleware.
d)The programming used for the player interface is horrible. It redraws up to 4 times whenever I move the mouse across it, making video stutter all the time.
e)It's terribly slow. Equal VfW codecs are usually 4 to12 times faster then the one supplied with QT.

However it does a pretty good job as a browser plugin, where it has only a limited interface and I don't have to worry too much about codecs. Also, it's very stable.

[nx70]

Well, with "standard" I meant QT is almost everywhere to get.(besides .rm and now also .wmv) Standard in the meaning of: Apple has made its OS to become one of the most favoured multimedia systems in the world. Most of the designers use Apple. So QT goes hand in hand with the OS. That's why I think its is one of the standards set?!

[Orincarnia]

ok i've used quicktime a lot and it has poor quality but i go over it with my mouse and nothing happens. and if it isn't a standard, then what is?

btw nx70, cute kid, how did you get a picture in there? all i had to chose from was pictures of clies (which kinda suck)

[nx70]

Yeah, okay I redraw my statement. QT is a good application for internet streaming but not a standard in any means.

Orincarnia:
I had the same prob, you need to have 100 posts, then you can choose your own avatavar... Sry

[Orincarnia]

well i'm gonna bring back the first thread i ever replyed too, its amazing how i found the simplest question i asked which i have taken for granted to know all this time, wow 2173 posts later, amazing what 7 months can do to a brain

[phoenix3200]

1024x768 music video? Where'd you get that at?

[Orincarnia]

i was refering too a good resolution when i put it full screen, i downloaded them off kazaalite at the time

[phoenix3200]

At my college they block all filesharing. It's kind of fun to try to beat the system, but I'm just about thru trying.

I need a SOCKS5 Proxy on a nonstandard port to beat it, and I have yet to find one.

[Orincarnia]

how do you find one or get one?

[phoenix3200]

You do a search in Google for proxy 8000 (http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&ie=ISO-8859-1&q=proxy+8000) and it will come up with some numbers proxies to plug into (Internet Explorer) Tools->Internet Options->Connections->LAN Settings.

However, Kazaa uses a port which is blocked, not a standard internet port. In order to get there, you must have a SOCKS5 server, which will map both the internet itself and any programs that use ports (like Kazaa). But the problem here is that my school blocks the standard SOCKS5 port, making me search for an alternate SOCKS5 configuration. I have not found one yet.

I don't know/think this works on a WLAN with a Clie unless you have direct access to the Wireless Router to reprogram it to go thru a proxy. Speaking of that, I just discovered that my router is broken and I need to send it in for repairs :(

[Orincarnia]

oooo good luck with the repairs, and how do you know they doint 'just blo0ck every SOCKS5 port? or is it so random that all ports can't be blocked?