Dynamic clocking for [almost] all devices!

[dmitrygr]

here: LINK (http://www.palmpowerups.com/file/DynaClock.zip)

read the readme, tell me how it goes
T3 version has been fixed to not overclock so high so it should run fine on all devices now. All devices are overclocked a bit at maximum setting and underclocked significantly at minimum. Run the DynaClock.XX app once (from card is ok) - it will activate. It will also automatically activate after a reset if it is in ram.



and yes, HHE is supported and it DOES increase battery life!



the next person to ask a question that is answered in the readme.txt will be hurt by me personally ;)



EDIT:

Updated the DynaClock CORE archive which is HERE (http://www.palmpowerups.com/file/DynaClock.zip). Now supported are almost all current and past OS5 devices.
DynaClock UI can be found HERE (http://www.palmpowerups.com/file/DcUi.prc). It is used to configure the application. The sources for this UI are available HERE (http://www.palmpowerups.com/file/DcUi.src.zip).



MORE INFO (http://www.1src.com/forums/showpost.php?p=945076&postcount=209)

[ahsirg]

Works splendid on z72 and z71. but on my 72 I have to use .z2 cause .tx makes my screen go haywire

[Bexuanmai]

I installed DynaClock.T3 on my T|T3 , it only shows the clock ?
I can't figure out how to use it :confused:

[c-j-archer]

Does it run on TT5 with the TX file?
Sorry, didn't read the readme :D

[iemand]

Cool, I asked for that on the other forum, surely gonna give it a try!
Euhrm, on a side-note, could you please give some information on the status of the ROM-editing app for the LD...? I have given my recently bought LD a nice long 'experimental time', to test things out and to get it to behave steady, which it does now. So I am planning on cleaning up the ROM the app is released, and not to experiment (as much) after that, that is to really start using it as my daily PDA. So any information would be welcome...
Thanx!

[alex_herrero]

I'll try it in my TX ASAP...

[drwho]

It makes my TX very slow, the screen very flickery, and it now emits a high-pitched whistle. I did install the TX specific version.

[jconaway99]

It makes my TX very slow, the screen very flickery, and it now emits a high-pitched whistle. I did install the TX specific version.

Does the same thing on my LD.

[DCBAKER]

I installed on a T3. It works great except it messes with Hotsync. If it's enabled during Hotsync it, the Hotsync always cuts out before it's done. Anyone else experiencing this? Any solution?

[alex_herrero]

It makes my TX very slow, the screen very flickery, and it now emits a high-pitched whistle. I did install the TX specific version.
Same device, same version, same results for me...

[drwho]

I installed on a T3. It works great except it messes with Hotsync. If it's enabled during Hotsync it, the Hotsync always cuts out before it's done. Anyone else experiencing this? Any solution?
Snap! Same here

[vineds]

I installed the QU one ( the version listed for my Zodiac 2) and it loads but thes if I click on it it states that the information is not availabe and to wait a few seconds. The screen then freezes and the is in a constant reset loop that I have to disable all hacks and uninstall the app to get out of. Is this supposed to work with my Z2 or is that just a guess? :confused:

[Biffa001]

Installed on my T3, runs ok so far, but it doesn't eliminate the screen whine....is it possible to set it to run at a slightely different frequency (like I did with PXA clocker) to stop the whine?

Cheers
Steve

[c-j-archer]

It makes my TX very slow, the screen very flickery, and it now emits a high-pitched whistle. I did install the TX specific version.
Same behavior on my T5.

[PinCushionQueen]

Does this app do the same kind of tweak as WarpSpeed? If I have WarpSpeed do I still need this app?

P.S. I read the READ ME before asking the questions ;-)

[LanMan]

I'd like to know what DynaClock, other than showing some stats, is really doing on my TH55?

[jjesusfreak01]

I'd like to know what DynaClock, other than showing some stats, is really doing on my TH55?
It detects how "busy" the processor is and changes the speed based on its use. Faster for complex apps, slower for simple apps. Note though that on HHE devices the speed transitions are slower than on other devices, but this program will still do its job.

[pruss]

How fast are the speed transitions? Suppose that I have an app that generally does nothing but sit around, but every so often has a highly intensive 1/4 of a second operation (e.g., an ebook screen refresh). Will it speed up that 1/4 of a second operation?

[Cyker]

How does it work on the TH55?
Is it using the native system calls to switch HHE speed or the fine-grained/hacked ones?

It seems to work pretty well, but my TH55 has become prone to NVFS-like lag at random - Possibly because the switches are so slow...
There does seem to be a slight performance degradation too, but I'm not sure if this is due to overheads, the CPU being set to too low a speed or my imagination.

If it's using the fine-grained/hacked calls, I'd love to see one that uses the native calls just to compare them.
TBH, I'd be fine if it just ran the CPU at Max MHz (In this case 123) but slams it down to Min (32) during idle like my Athlon64 does ;)


Is there any data regarding processor speed switch latency on the various CPUs?

[owl]

Seems to work fine on my T3s, didn't crash or freeze yet :)
Thanks Dmitry for fixing my overclocking-problems :D

[technical1]

Dmitry,

Sounds awesome. But I do have questions about the promise to hurt someone who asks about what is in the readme. #1 Since when have you had time to do documents?

#2 I am also curious as to the time you would have to chase these people down.

But seriously, I have found fm experience that flickering means that the clocking I do w/PXA is too much & goes away when I go back to system default.

However, fm what I've read here, it is addressing a very worthwhile need - how to properly adjust clocking for diff apps.

Keep up the good work, Dmitry. I hope it doesn't mean that things will slow down for
your most recent Grand Slam, otherwise known as SkinUI v2.

Eli

[jjesusfreak01]

How fast are the speed transitions? Suppose that I have an app that generally does nothing but sit around, but every so often has a highly intensive 1/4 of a second operation (e.g., an ebook screen refresh). Will it speed up that 1/4 of a second operation?
Well, I dont know how fast Dmitrys code is (I assume really fast), but it would depend on how often he polls the processor. The actual act of changing the speed is really really fast for non HHE processors (thats all but the TH, UX, and VZ). Fast enough to change and make it worth it for a 1/4 second operation. Id give you the exact number but I cant seem to find it in my GMail logs at the moment. Dmitry knows about what it is.

[Dekaritae]

I installed the QU one ( the version listed for my Zodiac 2) and it loads but thes if I click on it it states that the information is not availabe and to wait a few seconds. The screen then freezes and the is in a constant reset loop that I have to disable all hacks and uninstall the app to get out of. Is this supposed to work with my Z2 or is that just a guess? :confused:

How were you able to disable all hacks? I did a function+reset, but it's still in stuck the loop.

Never mind, I guess it was about time I did another hard reset.

[dmitrygr]

-slow tx is not a problem i have. try the z2 version then
-hhe switches are not slow, but minimum speed i run it at is 40 mhz which is a bit slow. any activity that needs more speed has to run for more then a second to get the cpu to clock up so it may seem a abit slow. i think this is reasonable.
-hhe by itself does not change speed. software does for it. not really dynamically. just sone sony apps run it at 32, and at all other times ir tuns at 123. with this app it really is dynamic and waries between 40 and 128.
-ique and zodiac i used same clocking code as warpspeed but as i do not have those devices, i cannot of course test on them
-flickering screen problem is solved by having warpSpeed enabled with screen whine killing options.

[dmitrygr]

as for code speed:
the application runs two threads. one at lowest priority possible, it just runs a look for 1/20 a second every 1 second and sees how far it can get in it (this is the busy measurement, the further it gets, the less busy the processor is). The other runs at highest priority. It sleeps most of the time, and wakes up whenever the measuriong thread posts a message in the Mailbox. The message si the measurement, and this thread sees if it meets the criteria to clock up or down, and adjusts the speed as needed, then it saves the stats, and then goes back to sleep with a satisfied feeling of having done the right thing. :)

[DCBAKER]

Any solution for the Hotsync problem?

[Dekaritae]

-ique and zodiac i used same clocking code as warpspeed but as i do not have those devices, i cannot of course test on them


I have a spare Zodiac 1 that I rarely use, and I wouldn't mind loading up beta software on it for testing.

[dmitrygr]

Any solution for the Hotsync problem?


it expects normal speed so no solution bc there is no per-app config. i didnt know people still used hotsync...

[owl]

it expects normal speed so no solution bc there is no per-app config. i didnt know people still used hotsync...
Did several hotsyncs yet, no problems...

If the hotsync takes too long, it doesn't work :confused:
So we need at least a speed-adjustment for hotsync (and yes, there are people out there doing usb-hotsyncs!)

[dmitrygr]

oh and while here someone please explain why this did not make the front page. surely it is revolutionary enough. definitely more so then "Palm announces NLM's WISER Mobile Application." Anyone here who cares about that raise your hand and be counted...*cricket sound*.....and this thread has 3 pages to it already....hm....i wonder...

[SoS]

it expects normal speed so no solution bc there is no per-app config. i didnt know people still used hotsync...

wot??? What's the alternative?? or did i misunderstand??

[dmitrygr]

backup to MS every day + wireless sync if needed. usb is not used anymore (by me at least)

[LanMan]

I hotsync via a USB cradle everyday! Luckily, I don't seem to be having any hotsync issues with DynaClock installed. Although, my TH55 does "seem" to be running a little sluggishly.

[DCBAKER]

it expects normal speed so no solution bc there is no per-app config. i didnt know people still used hotsync...
Some of us lesser mortals do still depend on Hotsync for a variety of reasons. :rolleyes: So are you saying Dynaclock shouldn't cause a problem with Hotsync or that there just isn't a way to address problems which do occur because there's no per app config? The problem I've had with Hotsync ending prematurely has consistently gone away when I disable Dynaclock.

I would love to keep using this utility because anything that extends battery life is a plus. But I also gotta have Hotsync.

[SoS]

Ok, I see...

I missingsync wirelessly whenever I can but have no choice at work. Have to cable-it to make sure my calendar is up to date..

[veritech]

@ Dmitry "i didnt know people still used hotsync..."

Hotsync? what is this hotsync you people speak of...

NVbackup, and ftp sync are all you need

Nice work on this, i haven't tried it yet(not sure if i really need it), but the way in which you handle it is clever. As for the front page thing, i have the utmost confidence that a product of yours will hit the page sooner rather than later.

[SoS]

@ Dmitry "i didnt know people still used hotsync..."

Hotsync? what is this hotsync you people speak of...

NVbackup, and ftp sync are all you need



oh give me a break!!!
:p

[dmitrygr]

if anyone wants to write a per-app config ui for it, contact me for how to control the app from another app

[iemand]

Dimitry, I just bought SinkUI on your site, with PayPal, but something went wrong...since I see you posting here often, on another board (my nickname there is 'iemand') and ofcourse on your own forum, where can I best post about what happened and ask how to resolve it?
p.s. It's the FIRST software I EVER bought!! :-) I got a payPal-account especially for that! But now my account on PalmPowerups.com says I have no software :-/

Oh, back on topic, about the front-page thing...I guess you/your software is sometimes a bit to, I don't know, controversial. It's often correcting Palm's mistakes/ommissions, and my guess is 1SRC.com wants to maintain a good relationship with Palm. Sad, but not unusual...

[dmitrygr]

iemand, email me for support

and yes you are likely right. americans have a horrible tendency to support mediocrity and submission to authority. sad but true.

[PinCushionQueen]

I just tried this app out and dispite WarpDrive being enable to eliminate screen whine - the whine from my TX was quite severe. I also continued to have quite a lot of screen flickering. I have never had problems with screen whine before on my TX.

Should my clock settings for WarpDrive have been adjusted? Should they all be set to the same and then let Dynamic Clock take over? Would that solve this horrible whine?

Oh and FYI I'm actually quite excited about WISER - but then again I'm a BioChemist who works part-time as an ER nurse - So I admit that it's rather a niche market :p

[dmitrygr]

no idea what sharkclear is. and warpSpeed has no effect on speed



EDIT: found shark clear. don't ask me about conflicts with it. my app is simple enough. it does not even patch a single call or subscribe to any notification.

[idian]

Dmitry,

Can WarpSpeed and DynaClock co-exist together or I have to uninstall Warpspeed for DynaClock to work ?

[dmitrygr]

no need to uninstall. they coexist just fine

[technical1]

Dmitry,

I feel safe now that I've read the readme... & after looking at posts here, are there no per-app settings for DynaClock? What about using it w/PXA Clocker? If usable, what about using it w/per-app settings in PXAClocker & if using per-app settings in PXA clocker, will it be needed for DynaClock?

One observation, the first page issue, this is not yet 100%. Not having docs beyond which file to use w/which device & not covering issues w/3d party clockers & how it would work w/your WarpSpeed.... make it - albeit according to 1src people - is not quite ready for prime time - this is how I read their reaction. I had a bad white screen of death incident w/PXA clocker, but that was a prev version & their current one does work fine on my TX.

How's about a mission statement style doc included in the zip file, which should at least save you a lot of forum comments here & personal emails....

I'm on your side & want to see you get the credit you deserve, & my personal emails reflect this, in them you see how I want to put on polish on your fine apps. I have helped a good number of other developers w/palm s/w, & would be willing to help you as well....all I'd need is docs & a follow up channel to ensure that I will be able to deal w/whatever issues crop up & still be able to use my TX....

Eli

[owl]

As long as there'S no way to set speed for certain apps or at least turn dynamic clocking off for critical apps, it's pretty much useless for me. When I have the choice between hotsync and dynamic clocking I have to take the hotsync :(

[IsLNdbOi]

I'd like to try this, but is there any chance it could damage my Treo 700P?

Edit:
NM, I just read the readme. :p

[owl]

#1: When running some programs (eg DigiMap) the statusbar acts strange: on a single tap with the stylus all buttons behave like they're pushed for a longer time, so when you push the "launcher" button the "last used apps" pops up and I can't hide the DIA and get the grafitty-chooser instead....
#2: I can't prove it yet but I have the feeling my battery drains even faster than before. Maybe I was useing to many power-hungy applications today....

[jjesusfreak01]

Technical1, I cant speak for Dmitry, but I would advise that you not run PXAClocker with this program. Dmitry codes his programs so they can easily co exist. In this case, I think DynaClock takes over from Warpspeed, but running PXAClocker could possibly cause some really bad stuff.

[TheUltimate]

This makes my Treo 700P completely freeze and lock up! even after reset it will still be completely frozen, had to do a hard reset to get it going again....So I dont believe this is fuctional at all on the 700P

[technical1]

Brad & enotar,

Thanks for the input on the TX. Glad I held off. Too bad, it was a great idea. I just don't have the time or patience to deal w/the blow ups w/software that is this invasive that does not have documentation beyond which file to use for which device.

I would have thought that PXA per-app settings would help, but on reconsideration,
DynaClock would need it, as it is running the show.

I wonder how Dmitry has the time to do all he does, dealing w/support issues i.e. on SkinUI2 & writing a digitizer, Custom TX ROM, updating SUI2, DynaClock, all in rapid succession.

Then there is support on his site forum & emails......

Someone once told me, there are 24 hrs in a day, and then there is the nite....

Eli

[pruss]

oh and while here someone please explain why this did not make the front page. surely it is revolutionary enough. definitely more so then "Palm announces NLM's WISER Mobile Application." Anyone here who cares about that raise your hand and be counted...*cricket sound*.....and this thread has 3 pages to it already....hm....i wonder...

When I need something frontpaged, I send a PM to Joel. He's been very good about it.

[SoS]

When I need something frontpaged, I send a PM to Joel. He's been very good about it.


already done, lets see what happens!!

[dmitrygr]

Brad & enotar,

Thanks for the input on the TX. Glad I held off. Too bad, it was a great idea. I just don't have the time or patience to deal w/the blow ups w/software that is this invasive that does not have documentation beyond which file to use for which device.


what more is there?
the app just does its thing.
i do not know how it will act with pxa clocker because i did not test with it, and frankly see absoluetly no point to delete warpSpeed to just test it on my devices.



I wonder how Dmitry has the time to do all he does, dealing w/support issues i.e. on SkinUI2 & writing a digitizer, Custom TX ROM, updating SUI2, DynaClock, all in rapid succession.

Then there is support on his site forum & emails......

2 hours of sleep a night

[mikle820forex]

take a rest dimitry else you life span will be shorter... :)

[wmvdg123]

This makes my Treo 700P completely freeze and lock up! even after reset it will still be completely frozen, had to do a hard reset to get it going again....So I dont believe this is fuctional at all on the 700P
Mine too. Warpspeed dosen't work yet either but I think Dmitry is working on it.

[technical1]

what more is there?
the app just does its thing.
i do not know how it will act with pxa clocker because i did not test with it, and frankly see absoluetly no point to delete warpSpeed to just test it on my devices.

Dmitry,

What else? Per-app exclusions, otherwise things can get hairy if the setting
DynaClock chooses is not good. I've already had a nasty white screen of death when PXA clocker settings I made didn't play nicely w/the system. Also, I have proven that flicker comes fm incorrect clocking settings.

I'm even willing to try WarpSpeed even tho I registered PXA Clocker.

2 hours of sleep a night

Not enough. Dial 1-800-GET-A-LIFE & btw, PinSkin2 works fine on my TX.

Thanks,

Eli

[thomazff]

dmitrygr, Could you make warpspeed and dinaclock one program? like making dinaclock a Warpspeed function. Like you could choose higher and lower speeds for each program?

How does warpspeed and dinaclock work when together? Does one supress the other?

[mmulhern]

dmitrygr, would it be possible to create a version of DynaClock for Clie NX series using the PXA250?

[idian]

This makes my Treo 700P completely freeze and lock up! even after reset it will still be completely frozen, had to do a hard reset to get it going again....So I dont believe this is fuctional at all on the 700P

Same here on my Treo-650.
I have Warpspeed and DynaClock installed and it freeze up my device.

[dmitrygr]

Not enough. Dial 1-800-GET-A-LIFE


surely you do not think i program 22 hours a day. :)
i'd never handle that

[technical1]

surely you do not think i program 22 hours a day. :)
i'd never handle that

Who said anything about programming 22hrs/day? I guess you would
have to eat a little & other physical necessities. Maybe even get out & do
food shopping for yourself - rather than doing it online. Where do you live? Do they have online groceries there? Maybe 18-20 hrs or so ;-)

Note that I said 'that isn't enough', I was actually looking out for your best interest - NOT really, I am nice enough, but I just want to keep seeing the great stuff you put out & maybe a bit of rest can energize you enough to do more online support (I recall some good questions on your website's forums...) & maybe even some time to write documentation & ... oh well, we can hope :-)

Bottom line, keep up the good work, get more sleep.

Eli

[dmitrygr]

i do all the things people my age do. clubbing, sex, alcohol, work, etc...

[owl]

i do all the things people my age do. clubbing, sex, alcohol, work, etc...
No, we don't program cool software like you do ;)

[dmitrygr]

i'm sure you just found something better to take up the time. When i had a gf i didnt program much either. [hence the distracted programming in iconfx and sysnfo and the long time to make udmh]

[owl]

i'm sure you just found something better to take up the time. When i had a gf i didnt program much either. [hence the distracted programming in iconfx and sysnfo and the long time to make udmh]
I just try to stick to the stuff I'm good at ;) So I let other people do the coding of cool apps, I'm too stupid for that :(

[dmitrygr]

as i said, i'm happy to hear you have better ways to spend your time :-)

[lhandra]

hmmm... i have trouble when using CardReader application + DynaClock.
When copying files into SD, i got IO error or the copying process is freezing.But when i uninstall DynaClock the problem was gone.Any clue ?

[technical1]

Now, now, false modesty will never do. You should be getting a big sense of
fulfillment fm the feedback alone - never mind from a job well done. That, and it
seems like every time you come out w/a new idea it puts Palm inc to shame!

Besides that, many are enjoying their Palms so much more because of your work! In today's world, making others happier is a big thing, even if it is in a lesser domain than issues like world hunger & poverty. That your efforts matter to others has to feel good.

If you realize the value of what you are providing, it could inspire you to do even better i.e. be more organized, help your loyal end users even more, & even get more sleep. Can't beat that!

Regards,

Eli

[dmitrygr]

i am considering making this a full app w/ per-app config and ability to disable etc. this would then be a paid app due to the large amount of code needed to get it to such a state. is there an interest for such an app?

[tosbsas]

yes of course

Ruben

[DCBAKER]

Yes if the price is reasonable (which it usually is)

[yehob]

uh :confused:
could someone please explain what dynamic clocking is?
i mean it constantly runs in the background changing the frequencies based on demand
does this cause any slowness?
what would any clocking app like warpspeed or pxa clocker be necessary for with this app installed?
does it just measure the average frequency and then set it for future use without measuring anymore? or does it measure continuously?
and the per-app setting would have it measure the average in each app?
any help please :o

[thomazff]

I have the interest to buy, but only if it is joined to warpspeed. As an inside option on warpspeed or as a extra for those who buy warpspeed. As two separeted products it will be too much for me. I don't get paid in dollars, so it would be very expensive.

[anand78]

I would definitely buy it as long as you add an option to set the mininum and maximum speeds for each app.

[Dennis]

Do you really need an app like this if you use WarpSpeed?
You can already underclock or overclock an application to your liking.
I think an option in Warpspeed would be better.
I just bought Warpspeed yesterday and I think I would pay for a upgrade if this option were available.

For someone that doesn't have Warpspeed this would be a good stand alone program.

Dennis

[thomazff]

Do you really need an app like this if you use WarpSpeed?
You can already underclock or overclock an application to your liking.
I think an option in Warpspeed would be better.
I just bought Warpspeed yesterday and I think I would pay for a upgrade if this option were available.

For someone that doesn't have Warpspeed this would be a good stand alone program.

Dennis

Warpspeed has fixed colck settings, lets say you are with Isilo open, you don't wanna wait 10 sec. to open a huge book, but you also don't wanna have a 2-3h battery life, this is were the two can work together.

[Sjweise]

As soon as I installed this and did a soft reset it made my TX screen whine. Thats a shame cause it did feel like the TX was a bit zippier. I tried the z22 and TX versions.

[iwsif]

Talking about the HHE possesors here,this is only to obtain a better distribution of the already present dynamic clocking,correct??
Personally I do not have a need for having a faster device when using Sony apps but for running in a more efficient way things like huge iSilo files I have.

Unless I didn't get this right,this allows the TH55 to go max 123Mhz in all apps,(plus the dynamic clocking which i must see how much battery it would actually save me while using small ebooks),correct?No overclocking,right?

[BuRnN]

i dont have any trouble exept the screen thing on my T3 but when i hotsync if i did not reset my palm first the hotsync always fails telling me that the connection was lost :

[headcronie]

As soon as I installed this and did a soft reset it made my TX screen whine. Thats a shame cause it did feel like the TX was a bit zippier. I tried the z22 and TX versions.

My TE already had the whine going. Now it just whines at different levels. If I'm understanding this app at all, it looks like it's been underclocking my device for most applications I use. That is until I play some games, then it jumps up. Checking this app after usage, it shows close to 100mhz for mundane tasks, and 140+ for heavier apps. Interesting. :)

[owl]

i am considering making this a full app w/ per-app config and ability to disable etc. this would then be a paid app due to the large amount of code needed to get it to such a state. is there an interest for such an app?
I'd buy it :)

[lhandra]

@headcronie:
i use whinehack to eliminate the whine screen and it work fine with DynaClock. But i dont know if whine hack can work on TE or not but on T3 it works

@BuRnN:
i think we got the same problem when we were using DynaClock and using program that connect to USB. i had the same problem when using CardReader app.

[dmitrygr]

As soon as I installed this and did a soft reset it made my TX screen whine. Thats a shame cause it did feel like the TX was a bit zippier. I tried the z22 and TX versions.


of course commercial version if i build one will address whine

[dmitrygr]

Talking about the HHE possesors here,this is only to obtain a better distribution of the already present dynamic clocking,correct??

i replace w/e there is of it in the system.


Personally I do not have a need for having a faster device when using Sony apps but for running in a more efficient way things like huge iSilo files I have.


Unless I didn't get this right,this allows the TH55 to go max 123Mhz in all apps,(plus the dynamic clocking which i must see how much battery it would actually save me while using small ebooks),correct?No overclocking,right?

it goes up to 128. i did not set it any higher as it can cause problems

[BrunDMC]

Is there a version for the sony tg50?

[headcronie]

@headcronie:
i use whinehack to eliminate the whine screen and it work fine with DynaClock. But i dont know if whine hack can work on TE or not but on T3 it works.


Whinehack is for XScale Palms. The TE is an Omap device. I'm SOL. Nothing new. :)

[tosbsas]

on my t3 I get screen blure with it - whine hack I mean

Ruben

[LanMan]

I noticed that GraffitiAnywhere is now running a lot less smoothly on my TH55, and I am having to rewrite many of the letters that I'm entering. FYI

[dmitrygr]

Forget my ignorancie here but how do you set your HSN if you dont use Hotsync?
You have to use MultiUserhack & enable it all the time?

Is there something else?

Thank you

enotar


PowerID sets my hotsync name, rom id, wifi mac and bluetooth addr.

[tosbsas]

PowerID sets my hotsync name, rom id, wifi mac and bluetooth addr.

any link??

Ruben

[technical1]

Dmitry,

I think prev comments are quite valid. I think WarpSpeed & Dynaclock should be made to
work together - either as an add on or work-along. As long as there could be per-app settings I would buy it. I would like to see some pointers in the docs - along the lines of what settings should be made for Dynaclock/Warpspeed in other PalmPowerUps apps like UnCache or UDMH (or if not needed).

TIA,

Eli

[dmitrygr]

together? they are totalli different apps and making them work "together" or combining them would be more work then just to make an UI for dynaclock. perhaps i can just do that and call it Ws Pro or something and have that as a optional upgrade

[anand78]

Sounds great, but I would really like an option to set mininum and maximum speeds for dynaclock.

[khertan]

Just a little question ... how you estimate the current charge of the processor ? I need to do same thing for one of my product ?

[technical1]

together? they are totalli different apps and making them work "together" or combining them would be more work then just to make an UI for dynaclock. perhaps i can just do that and call it Ws Pro or something and have that as a optional upgrade


Sounds right. WS Pro. I meant just what tomazff said in msg #81 in this thread; working together in terms of how things like a screen whine kill setting in warpspeed is there, I'm surprised you didnt refer to that when someone else mentioned it elsewhere relating to DC; you just said that would be included in DC; WS has it.

The working together should be a 'natural' in terms of functionality i.e. the range of settings for DynaClock should be built into WS which already has per-app settings , & thereby gain that per-app solution to use the interface, & adding DC would give "intelligent use/settings range" for each app to address things like in your iSilo example to address low end setting for long time read of iSilo doc & hi end setting to address battery level w/out the cost of long term battery life.

This customized DC setting (fm within WS) for hi-lo range of use would avoid probs w/less-than-appropriate settings that cause screen blur or jiggle..
I have conclusively found, based on experimentation that screen blur or jiggle comes fm a setting that should be considered, for lack of a better term, out-of-range i.e. 'not as stable'. It only came when I upped the setting in PXA & it went away when I lowered it.

I find it EXTREMELY annoying to have screen jump around in front of me (even a little, why I wouldn't get a low end led pc monitor) & makes an otherwise clear document or text or image seem like you are looking at it thru a film of jelly or moving jelly.

Many have found it (screen jiggle) to be a problem (I do speak fm experience w/WS & DC, having gone fm PXA clocker to trial of WarpSpeed & DynaClock & wished there were per app settings & as I said b4, imho (as a non-prog- rammer) it would seem to be natural to have DynaClock as a feature in WS i.e. an enable DC checkbox as an option.

As tomazff said, it makes it more affordable, esp for those of us who have licensed PXA... to take the WS dive w/per-app settings for DC could make a
WS Pro app a big winner (by volume of sales alone you should rake it in).

I might not be a programmer, or have your ideas, but I know about how my
TX works (& when it doesn't) & I would want to see per-app settings for DC, & in WS it would seem to be a natural. A little end user trial & error should provide each user w/a workable low range setting for reading a long iSilo doc & hi-range setting for quick loading of a long doc, w/out needing a constant setting of 450 on a TX just to load the doc & thereby kill battery life b/c you are reading that quickly loaded doc at 450 when 199 would do better (just picking numbers for an example - it would be great if you could include relevant comments in the docs....


Keep up the good work, but since you missed
what tomazff wrote here earlier, not too much! ;-)

Eli

[thomazff]

That would be it! But for now I will be with DC only.

Lets wait and see!!

[technical1]

I'd be willing to also, but w/out per application settings it is a no go for me.
#1 I cannot stand screen jiggle, or fuzziness. I got it when using PXA clocker.
Whenever I pushed some apps to far, I got the jiggle.

I tried WarpSpeed b/c others recommended to avoid DynaClocker w/PXA Clocker,
so I tried WarpSpeed & DynaClocker & got the jiggle.

I hope it is just a cosmetic thing, I would hate to think that it did something to my
TX's screen; I'm sure the short time it was in use didn't do any harm.

Eli

[lmame]

It works on my UX 50 ;)

[dmitrygr]

It works on my UX 50 ;)


did you notice any battery life improvement?

[DonFelipe]

What about NX version?

[dmitrygr]

there is no nx version

[lmame]

I just installed it yesterday so I don't really know, but as the UX 50 autonomy is low I should tell you soon I guess :)

[lmame]

I just got a freeze on my UX-50, I was on the default 3D launcher and wanted to power the unit off.
I see too that it seems that it is slower than usual on the 3D launcher (there is a small animation with 3D balls when you navigate through the applications).

[DonFelipe]

there is no nx version

Why? Is there any technical reason?

[dmitrygr]

yeah, i do not have an nx to test on

[lmame]

For the time being I did not see a big change in my UX. I tried to load a big picture (3MB) in AcidImage, launch some games, these kind of things :)

Some people tried it in my board and here are their feelings:
AntoinePierre who also has a UX-50 tells me it's slower in PIMS (DateBK5, PsMemo).
Frosh38 has a Treo 650(very simple, no overclock / underclock software installed) and each time he tried DynaClock, the Treo freezes and when he soft reset it, he has to enter again the Palm Os Preferences amongst other things (ZL not on the same button anymore, SMS Alerts, Calendar).

[anand78]

I just noticed that the program also expired for me.

I can't wait for the full version with per-app config! I stopped using it recently because my Palm TX kept on freezing after my scheduled backup with NVBackup, leaving me with a dead Palm in the morning.

Thank you for all of your hard work.

[tosbsas]

Dead here too - and Dimitry gone because of exams - grrr

Ruben

[LanMan]

I didn't even know that it was a demo version. What's up Dimitry?

[_Em]

1) Dmitry said it was a tech demo when he released it, and was asking whether people would pay for an enhanced version.
2) Dmitry's writing exams, as stated above :)

[dmitrygr]

not yet
exams are on 19th.
but i am doing some cool things to DC. :-) y'ull see

[dmitrygr]

new version is posted. same link.
currently i updates only the .tx, .t3, and .te versions.
also is included a simple ui app [more of an api test]
that shows how to control dynaclock from a 68k app.
now anyone can make an ui with per-app config, exclusions etc...
it no no longer on me

plus one ui will support ALL versions of dynaclock if it is well-written

[Sjweise]

It still creates immediate screen whine on my TX.

[docholliday]

I turned on Warpspeed to kill my screen whine...

Dimitry, is there any way to make the app disabled during Hotsync, maybe even locking at 400MHz? It seems that during a long hotsync, after a certain time, it will drop the hotsync.

Nothing massive, not even "user-selectable" exclusions, etc. Just Hotsync, hard-coded in the app?

[dmitrygr]

i released api on how to control the app. all you need to do now is convince shark/ja/jjf/or the new [quite good i'd say looking at the code] programmer here: grahamT3

[tosbsas]

(:-)) shark/ja/jjf/ahsirg/grahamt3 - pleeeease. Exclude function would be the thing for me (:))

Ruben

[jjesusfreak01]

i released api on how to control the app. all you need to do now is convince shark/ja/jjf/or the new [quite good i'd say looking at the code] programmer here: grahamT3
Okay, this is getting out of hand. I dont know if its because I keep in good contact with Dmitry and Tyler, or because I can answer most simple Palm programming questions (a result of aforementioned contact), but for the record, I have never written a Palm application. I know how IDEs work, I know programming structure, and thanks to keeping in contact with Dmitry, I know a whole how to do a whole lot of things most Palm programmers never thought possible, but I, at least at the moment, do not have the programming knowledge to actually write a Palm app.

Okay, glad I got that over with. Of course, this doesnt mean you cant ask me Palm programming questions, or any Palm questions in general...

[tosbsas]

(:-))

Ruben

[owl]

now anyone can make an ui with per-app config, exclusions etc...
it no no longer on me
That means you quit on it? No all-in-one app from you.... makes me draw some conclusions :confused:

[tosbsas]

you are drawing right conclusions - I already used a box of kleenex. Hope he will be around anyway

Ruben

[owl]

you are drawing right conclusions - I already used a box of kleenex. Hope he will be around anyway
I know :( I just hoped he would finish it before his transition to the dark side. OTOH, looking at WinMob5, there's a sh*tload of work waiting for him :D

[dmitrygr]

at first uncache had an ui made not by me too

[tosbsas]

(:-)) .....

Ruben

[dmitrygr]

no. i just dont like making UIs. i made the heart of the app. making an ui is a routine tast i do not like. anyone can do that

[jjesusfreak01]

no. i just dont like making UIs. i made the heart of the app. making an ui is a routine tast i do not like. anyone can do that
Cept since you want it done right, you generally insist on doing it anyways.

[Sjweise]

I turned on Warpspeed to kill my screen whine...

Dimitry, is there any way to make the app disabled during Hotsync, maybe even locking at 400MHz? It seems that during a long hotsync, after a certain time, it will drop the hotsync.

Nothing massive, not even "user-selectable" exclusions, etc. Just Hotsync, hard-coded in the app?

I have warpspeed, and my screen still whines? Also I noticed a horrible lag when in Zlauncher.

[dmitrygr]

I have warpspeed, and my screen still whines? Also I noticed a horrible lag when in Zlauncher.

it takes a whole seocnd to switch between powerstates [can be less but this way is tolerable] so for a while second it is running at 52 mhz before it clocks up, so you might notice a slight lag. if it bothers you. make a simple app that at reset will call dynaclock api and set lowest state to , say, state 3. it is not hard. [of course you iwll lose some battery saving]. or yuo can go as far as to determine current app and depending on that set lowest [or highest] state. all is possible. and api is public.

[Sjweise]

it takes a whole seocnd to switch between powerstates [can be less but this way is tolerable] so for a while second it is running at 52 mhz before it clocks up, so you might notice a slight lag. if it bothers you. make a simple app that at reset will call dynaclock api and set lowest state to , say, state 3. it is not hard. [of course you iwll lose some battery saving]. or yuo can go as far as to determine current app and depending on that set lowest [or highest] state. all is possible. and api is public.

But then I'd need to learn how to code! ;) Its really the screen whine that gets me. Thats the one thing my TX has over my T3. Don't get me wrong, the software you crank out is great and dynaclock is a great concept that should really be a part of the OS itself.

[T3_slider]

Is it just me, or did the T3 version just lose some power? It seems to me that now the maximum clock speed is 466 MHz, whereas before it was 533 MHz (I think). I saw this in the UI Power State test thing, and to ensure I wasn't crazy I did a soft reset and immediately played SNES using LJP and (although it wasn't slow or anything) the average speed is now less than 466 MHz (Just under, as would be expected) whereas before it would be above 500 MHz. Is this just the performance of the app (It recognizes the needed speed better) or is the clock speed reduced?

[tosbsas]

yes I think dimitry turned it down a bit - some guys had problems with 528

Ruben

[dmitrygr]

Is it just me, or did the T3 version just lose some power? It seems to me that now the maximum clock speed is 466 MHz, whereas before it was 533 MHz (I think). I saw this in the UI Power State test thing, and to ensure I wasn't crazy I did a soft reset and immediately played SNES using LJP and (although it wasn't slow or anything) the average speed is now less than 466 MHz (Just under, as would be expected) whereas before it would be above 500 MHz. Is this just the performance of the app (It recognizes the needed speed better) or is the clock speed reduced?


it was requested bu people whose devices couldnt handle the 133 mhz bus. once someone releases an ui that can set max state i will release a version that has that state too.

[tosbsas]

goood (.-)

[T3_slider]

Guess I got lucky with my T3 then. :-)

Thanks for the great app, Dmitry -- I never really noticed the increase in battery life until today. My battery was down to ~33% and it just seemed to keep on going (And my T3's battery is at the end of its life cycle).

[DoorKicker]

The screen whine will not go away evening if warpspeed screen whine enable. I have tx. Any suggestions. I did used the previous version and used the Z2 and worked fine. At least with the screen whine. Peace.

[ahsirg]

Some kind of UI with MAX MIN options will be ready today/tomorrow.

[tosbsas]

please don't forget exclude option

Ruben

[ahsirg]

It will be without exclude option for now. Sorry. But It will be on the todolist as #1 (i am just not that good @ C/C++ yet)

[tosbsas]

ok, you will get there (:-)) thanks anyway

Ruben

[mikle820forex]

Hello Dimitry,


My TX died. It wont power on anymore.

It happend when i installed your DynaClock for TX.prc on my TX. I installed in my newly hardreset TX and then the screen went white after i tap on the dynaclock.prc, since it froze then i tried a soft reset but all it gave me was a white screen. It wont even respond to any reset, hard reset, incradle reset, and zero-out reset. I let it drain for hours (7 hours) hoping it will be okay, after the drain i plugged it in the charger and it wont power on any more even charging it for (5hours already).

What happend? Please help.

Mike

[DCBAKER]

Tried the newest version on my T3 and ahd no problems with the first Hotsync I did afterwards. Hopefully, that will remain a constant. Does the newest release have a built in expiration like the last one?

[pruss]

Hello Dimitry,


My TX died. It wont power on anymore.

It happend when i installed your DynaClock for TX.prc on my TX. I installed in my newly hardreset TX and then the screen went white after i tap on the dynaclock.prc, since it froze then i tried a soft reset but all it gave me was a white screen. It wont even respond to any reset, hard reset, incradle reset, and zero-out reset. I let it drain for hours (7 hours) hoping it will be okay, after the drain i plugged it in the charger and it wont power on any more even charging it for (5hours already).

What happend? Please help.

Mike

7 hours of battery drain is not enough. 3-4 days is better.

Alex

[mikle820forex]

what?? 3-4 days? isn't that too much? by the way i manage to revive it somehow a while ago but when the moment it went to the prefs screen after the palm poweded logo,the image in the screen was slowly fading to white. Then it powered off and it wont turn on anymore. :(

[pruss]

what?? 3-4 days? isn't that too much?

That's how long it takes for the battery to powerdown to zero.

[npbeers]

what?? 3-4 days? isn't that too much? by the way i manage to revive it somehow a while ago but when the moment it went to the prefs screen after the palm poweded logo,the image in the screen was slowly fading to white. Then it powered off and it wont turn on anymore. :(

And even once you do revive it you'll probably need to do another hard reset....

[Sjweise]

Or a warm reset to disable dynaclock. You can try reseting while charging and also try two resets in succession.

[ahsirg]

A Simple UI for DynaClock is done.
ONLY TESTED ON Z72 - use at your own risk!

DYNACLOCK must be installed and enabled before running this app

You can use it to set max and min CPU Freqs for dynaclock.
Camera on z72 is always set to 416MHz

once again - it is very very early beta vers. http://ahsirg.kvplab.com/mambo/dmdocuments/dui.zip

[ahsirg]

and you are sure that DynaClock.TX is installed and active?

[DCBAKER]

Haven't installed the UI as I'm content to let DynaClock do its thing by itself. I did Hotsync again a few minutes ago and still no problems. So thanks Dmitry for whatever changes you made that solved this issue.

Should I expect this most recent version to expire soon?

[ahsirg]

enotar - i think you can try all states at your own risk :)
next version i'll add exclusions for progs like ptunes, that tend to set max

no exit - sorry, i was hurrying for a release, forgot about it, will fix

[dmitrygr]

Should I expect this most recent version to expire soon?

september 18-19th

[tosbsas]

works great here on t3 - Dimitry we need the powerversion of your app with 5... as max (:-))

Ruben

[Groby]

How about a new version for HHE devices?

[mikle820forex]

i returned my TX to our inventory (i was tired of doing endless resets just to revive it). got another one now. (geez this what i get from testing various softwares.) :)

[pictural]

I found dynaclock doesn't work well with tomtom.
Tomtom becomes slow and jerked... :(

[tosbsas]

wait for exclude option (:-))

Ruben

[pictural]

very good idea !!

[docholliday]

Had an interesting feature thought for the UI...

How about adding an option to detect external power and setting a specific speed based on that, i.e. full power on external power?

That would take care of the tomtom issue, considering my T3 is plugged in when in the car...

[_Em]

That's a very good suggestion... Then again, I'd suggest having profiles similar to WarpSpeed, but add an external power option for the default and for each app added.

[tosbsas]

keep posting and asking guys - ahsirg says - no interest here for further development of dc ui

Ruben

[owl]

keep posting and asking guys - ahsirg says - no interest here for further development of dc ui
Hey, we're all relying on him. Just because we're not posting and nagging every 2 hours doesn't mean we're not interrested any more.
I really want to use dynaclock but I really need an UI with per-app-settings.

[tosbsas]

my words (:-))

Ruben

[docholliday]

Hey, it's not that I'm not asking...I'm just being patient :). I'd love to see the UI become a full-blown, very mature app. And, as a developer, I try to not nag. But a per app or at least a setting for "full clock when externally powered" would be great!

[cypherpunks]

I have no clue why, but the UI doesn't seem to work for me on my Palm TX. Perhaps, it is some sort of software conflict?

I enable DynaClock.TX first and then I open DynaClockUI. I choose some min and max values and click "Save and Exit" (even though the program actually doesn't exit). I click the Home Button and it goes back into my default launcher (Launcher X). It looks like dynamic clocking works in this application. However, whenever I go into any other application, it seems like DynaClock becomes disabled. Now, even when I reopen DynaClock.TX, nothing works. Did anybody else have this problem?

As another note, I would really love to have an UI with the option to exclude certain applications. That's what I really need, as my TX freezes in certain programs.

[Nekkutta]

yes, we are definately interested in his UI. Just cause we don't post anything means that we are waiting, really.... how much coding can ahsirg do if he's popping on here every 5 minutes to see what someone posted...

Keep up the good work ahsirg, we are all waiting

Nekkutta

[tosbsas]

OK Guys

we were successfull. There is a test version out. Thanks again to Dimitry for making the DC in the first place, and Grigory Burakov (ahsirg)



Here it is

http://ahsirg.kvplab.com/mambo/dmdocuments/ddd.zip


Be Carefull!! Use at your own risk !!! Programmer takes no responsability for any damage!!

PLEASE READ README !!!!

Ruben

[ahsirg]

Thanks to Ruben (tosbsas) for his help. Nekkuta - how do you know how often do i pop here?

I dont want ppl bugging and asking, i just thought that there was not many replies to the first ver of the UI that noone needs it

[Nekkutta]

Wicked sweet ahsirg!!!!! unfortunately no time to test it right now, I need to get to sleep(I work overnights, :( ) but I will run it tonight when I wake up (and after NVBackup does its thing for the day) hopefully I'll have nothing but good news to report!!

Nekkutta
BTW since its you, you probably don't get the "AHSIRG JUST ARRIVED" popup window with a 800x600 walking palm, no matter how many popup blockers I install I can't get rid of the thing!!! j/j

[ahsirg]

Now it doesnt say that it will exit :)

BTW since its you, you probably don't get the "AHSIRG JUST ARRIVED" popup window with a 800x600 walking HS VISOR, no matter how many popup blockers I install I can't get rid of the thing!!! j/j I'll sue the person who does the popup for illegally using my avatar

I am not planning anymore features, unless anyone really convinces me why is it needed. reason: no personal interest in the program, i dont use it since my screen flickers, device crashes etc.

[ahsirg]

What test period? I dont put any restrictions by date.

[ahsirg]

I'm sure Dmitry wont just let it slip like that :)

[technical1]

Now it doesnt say that it will exit :)

I'll sue the person who does the popup for illegally using my avatar

I am not planning anymore features, unless anyone really convinces me why is it needed. reason: no personal interest in the program, i dont use it since my screen flickers, device crashes etc.

ahsirg,

I have conclusive proof fm my experience w/clocking program I use - PXA Clocker, that when an app has a setting that is too high, it causes the flicker & naturally if too much, it'll cause crash. When I lowered the speed setting, the flicker went away. Reproducable every time.

This is why Dmitry's idea is so good. It allows a doc reader to load up a big doc at a high speed setting, & then run slower to do the reading & save battery power.

This is why someone needs to make per-app settings & exclusion possible for a given app. The other comment that docholladay made about full strength settings when connected to power source seems to be worthy.

It seems to be worth it & fm what you said, b/c it would allow you to safely use it. See Tanker Bob's website, he has a good posting about clockers in his Palm S/W section. It should give you good insight.

Hope this helps.

Eli

[Nekkutta]

finally managed to get theb new UI on, works great!!!!!!

Nekkutta

[owl]

Is it already time for some nagging?
We need per-app-settings, We need per-app-settings, We need per-app-settings, We need per-app-settings, We need per-app-settings, We need per-app-settings :D

Did I mention that we truly need per-app-settings?

[dmitrygr]

*sigh* maybe on the weekend. is nobody else really up to doing this? you do realise that is i do it, it will cost you more,

[docholliday]

...and/or, it would also be nice to have one where the bus speed was always 118MHz. I always use that bus speed: no need to enable options or apps to silence screen whine.

[owl]

*sigh* maybe on the weekend. is nobody else really up to doing this? you do realise that is i do it, it will cost you more,
I can only speak for myself, but I'm ready to pay any reasonable amount for it :cool:

[technical1]

OK, Dmitry,

add my vote I'd like to see a reasonably priced warpspeed DynaClock combo w/per app settings.

Eli

[philipkcraig]

And a reasonable upgrade price for those of us who have bought Warpspeed and want the advantages of this new 'combo'!

Phil

[docholliday]

OK, Dmitry,

add my vote I'd like to see a reasonably priced warpspeed DynaClock combo w/per app settings.

Eli

I'd second that! I'd pay a reasonable price to upgrade my WarpSpeed to include dynaclock-ing on a per-app/global basis!

[dmitrygr]

Well, here you all go: http://www.palmpowerups.com/file/DcUi.prc this is a ui. if anyone wants, i can provide the sources to the ui as well.

[tosbsas]

works great on my t3 - thanks Dimitry

Ruben

[dmitrygr]

the ui is free, and open source
the dynamic clocking abb is still in beta, and the current one will expire september 20th


EDIT: the UI sources are posted HERE (http://www.palmpowerups.com/file/DcUi.src.zip)

These are a bit messy (this whole things was done in a few hours) but can be a bit educational.

App.c is the main app entry, and all non-ui stuff
DB.c + DB.h are the functions to access the database of settings
dcCalls.c + dcCalls.h are functions that call into the DynamicClocking app
util.c + util.h are useful utility funtions
UI.c is the UI code


EDIT2: Updated the main DynaClock archive which is HERE (http://www.palmpowerups.com/file/DynaClock.zip) to contain the TH/UX version comaptible with the UI (tested on TH55),TJ version (not tested but should be OK on sony TJ series PDAs), and QU version (not tested but should be OK on iQue and Zodiacs)

EDIT3: Zire22 is an overclocking monster! it has some weird samsung processor i've never heard of, but i added support for it. in Speedy benchmark at 290 MHz this processor beats T|C at 400. :-). [I do belive I get the "first to overclock a z22" award here] Anyways DynaClock.22 has beed added to the archive, as well as a README listing all devices and what version to install for them.

[ahsirg]

Dmitry you're the man. Sorry 2every1 I havent done it the best way

[tosbsas]

Ahsirg - no sweat - yours was a good try - thanks for it

Ruben

[AlienTX]

WarpSpeed has very nice UI. Why can't I choose "dynamic" option there? :rolleyes:

[dmitrygr]

WarpSpeed has very nice UI. Why can't I choose "dynamic" option there? :rolleyes:



BECAUSE it is a different app.
plus this ui is almost the same as warpspeed.

[dmitrygr]

um, why? there is one common UI, but there are 7 different builds of dynaclock. each supporting a different processor. and if there are any more in future to support, it is as simple as making another build of dynaclock. the ui stays the same. That is the reason for the current design.

[docholliday]

um, why? there is one common UI, but there are 7 different builds of dynaclock. each supporting a different processor. and if there are any more in future to support, it is as simple as making another build of dynaclock. the ui stays the same. That is the reason for the current design.

I had thoughts about this, but understand why you haven't. Yet...it would be nice. Why, you ask? For the screen whine removal. I tried Whinehack and it un-stabilized my T3 like insanely.

I guess the alternate would be for a 118MHz bus only Dynaclock. For the longest time, I've been using Warpspeed without the screen whine feature turned on. Instead, I've just run my T3 on 118MHz all the time. You wouldn't have something like Dynaclock.T3.118.prc laying around would you?

[dmitrygr]

i will add whine killing to dynaclock later. it is meant to replace Ws and so it shall

[owl]

Ahsirg - no sweat - yours was a good try - thanks for it
FULL ACK. Thanks from me, too :-)

[docholliday]

i will add whine killing to dynaclock later. it is meant to replace Ws and so it shall

Awesome! That will be the most useful app ever (no, really, it will be!). In the meantime, though, a 118Mhz bus version would do great...if you have a few seconds to hack one up! With my T3, any kind of whine-killing causes weird streaks to randomly appear thoughout the screen. At 100MHz, there isn't too many options to getting the whine out. I'm using WS with it Dynaclock right now, but the streaks seem to be getting worse as time progresses. Hmmm.

118MHz bus, please?

[ricktt3]

I installed the qu version for the Zodiac and it became very unstable. Warm reset and uninstalled within 10 minutes. Anyone else experience this?

[technical1]

Dmitry,

As always, very, very nice; so where are the docs? I know you are busy, so how's about some guidelines for which type of apps should get which ranges i.e. I have TealDoc to 6-11 208-416 to load big files quickly & read at lower speeds for battery conservation (I got that fm your original explanation of concept)

Anybody here, please share your app settings so everyone can benefit.

I'm using a TX & in the past I found that certain apps 350-370 or 380 was the safe limit, so having no settings between 292 & 390 is a bit inconvenient; esp. when there is 286 & 292. *Sep. topic* What about adding it to UnCache list (I'd think so) & UDMH (not sure).

Also, can you make it so that the sys default show on the top, so it will be available for a point of easy reference (was that way in PXA) & the ability to use 5way to scroll down the app list, please.

Keep up the good work.

Eli

[dmitrygr]

Dmitry,

As always, very, very nice; so where are the docs? I know you are busy, so how's about some guidelines for which type of apps should get which ranges

ok.
Every app should get "SYS" and system should be set to "0-MAX".
Exceptions: MP3 player should be capped to somethign like 0-4
Hotsync should be at x-x where x is the speed that is 208 bus and 312 cpu

all else should be fine in full dynamic clocking range.


Anybody here, please share your app settings so everyone can benefit.

Just did


What about adding it to UnCache list (I'd think so) & UDMH (not sure).


DynaClock.XX needs to be in uncache list or it won't run at reset
DynaClockUI needs to be in uncache list, or per-app settings will not be applied after resets.


Also, can you make it so that the sys default show on the top, so it will be available for a point of easy reference

Unless you have an app whose title starts with two spaces, SystemDefault will be on the very top of the list.


the ability to use 5way to scroll down the app list, please.


why can't you? focus on it. tap "center" on 5-way nav, scroll.

[technical1]

Dmitry,

The very speedy reply is much appreciated. It'll help bring stability to using app & user confidence. I do have a bit of follow-up.

ok.
Every app should get "SYS" and system should be set to "0-MAX".

I noted that when 0-max is used, system seems a lot slower. I bumped SYS to 2-11 (which is max). I also made the following change in SkinUI2: In Prefs-> Effects detail I lowered the effects detail & things seemed a bit faster. Shouldn't SkinUI2 get higher cpu minimum, as it effects how everthing it skins loads...? If not, please let me know, so I can better use this latest of your great apps.

Exceptions: MP3 player should be capped to something like 0-4

Please enlighten me, would seem that PocketTunes (& games like Bejeweled), etc. should get a higher max setting (& maybe higher min as well) b/c these
need more strength/processor power.

Hotsync should be at x-x where x is the speed that is 208 bus and 312 cpu

Like enotar, I noted that on TX, whose native speed is 312, the bus speed of 208 gives 416 for CPU, & nothing gives 312 (as I noted b4 there is a 286 & 292, shouldn't the 292 get bumped up to 312 for the TX?).

all else should be fine in full dynamic clocking range.

Just did



DynaClock.XX needs to be in uncache list or it won't run at reset
DynaClockUI needs to be in uncache list, or per-app settings will not be applied after resets.

Now that is what I am talking about! Clear, concise, but sufficiently detailed theory.... Thanks!



Unless you have an app whose title starts with two spaces, SystemDefault will be on the very top of the list.

I meant persistently on top, or showing somewhere on screen.

why can't you? focus on it. tap "center" on 5-way nav, scroll.
My bad, didn't think of this, but I am talking about that working w/out having to focus, like Resco Expl.

BTW, my screen is also getting jiggle, which is very bad for me.
I am not using any other clocker but DynaClock, should I be using WarpSpeed as well..? I just got a screen freeze & it caused many of my apps to be in the wrong category when it started up again. This & the jiggle makes me think it'll be better to wait until next version.... I will be happy to give feedback then.....

TIA,

Eli

[SonyStyle]

hm.......why can't the cpu speed for the ux50 be from 8-125mhz instead of the 50-125mhz that is currently set in the app. i also notice that sony apps ie. media launcher hangs around at 60mhz rather than 32mhz(without DC installed)

[dmitrygr]

because 8 is too slow. even stylus taps take a while to register at that speed. while theoretically possible it is useless. 32 is barely useable.

[SonyStyle]

ahh i see. if u dont touch the ux50, does it idle at 50mhz then? i also experienced some crashes from zlauncher last night. it would freeze and i would have to reset it

[dgtiii]

Neither the app nor the UI works on my Zodiac 2. Installed the QU version, and the device freezes. Warm (safe) reset required to delete the app.

Del

[dmitrygr]

hm. does warpSpeed work on the device? could you please check? perhaps i copied over the wrong speed set function.

[dgtiii]

hm. does warpSpeed work on the device? could you please check? perhaps i copied over the wrong speed set function.

Yes, Dmitry, I am a satisfied Warpspeed owner, and that app works extremely well on my Zodiac. Thanks for you assistance.

Del

[docholliday]

Dmitry,

Any chance on a 118MHz bus only version of DC? I am so tired of this buggy, kludgy Whinehack wreaking havoc on my T3!

[dmitrygr]

Dmitry,

Any chance on a 118MHz bus only version of DC? I am so tired of this buggy, kludgy Whinehack wreaking havoc on my T3!


give me a bit of time and there will be no whine on any bus speed :-)

[docholliday]

give me a bit of time and there will be no whine on any bus speed :-)

Sweet! Thanks again for all your work!

[technical1]

Dmitry,

You da man, replies & good tech, now, can you get the right speeds for TX
& address the screen jiggle that lead to my screen going darker like in warnings fm SUI2 & freezing & trashing locations of my app icons & the categories in which they should be, rather than many fm all categories winding up in Unfiled (using the latest ZL).

could this be related to settings in SUI2 for skin compression & effects etc.?

TIA,

Eli

[dmitrygr]

Dmitry,

You da man, replies & good tech, now, can you get the right speeds for TX
& address the screen jiggle that lead to my screen going black & freezing & trashing locations of my app icons & the categories in which they should be, rather than many fm all categories winding up in Unfiled (using the latest ZL).

TIA,

Eli


ZL has that problem that if its db is open during a crash this happens.

[technical1]

And so fast w/replies too!

That hasn't happened since ZL was updated for TX & there is still issue of screen darkening & freezing; nothing new since latest DC.

TIA,

Eli

[SonyStyle]

i tried the app and there isnt much of a battery improvement, its the same

[dmitrygr]

i tried the app and there isnt much of a battery improvement, its the same

what were the things you did? if you watched video, for example you would of course see little difference. but things like pim useage, or simple webbrowsing should benefit sugnificantly.

[tosbsas]

and it does (:-)) on my T3

Ruben

[Dennis]

Works great on my T3

Dennis

[dgtiii]

Dmitry,

Any progress on getting a Zodiac version that works?

Del

[PinCushionQueen]

I've tried several evolutions of this app and while the flicker and whine have improved... the slow down has not. I should clarify that I say slow-down from where WarpSpeed has enabled me to be - I overclock with WS to 512Mhz in order to get my TX as zippy as my old T3. Of course some of the apps are underclocked as well and some are just at system default.

Any plans to allow for overclocking using DynaClock? Or does this defeat the main focus of battery conservation? To be honest the battery on my TX is much more effecient than the T3 battery so overclocking doesn't seem to matter as much to me. Speed does matter though - a lot...

If you don't plan to allow overclocking with DC - will you still support WarpSpeed? I read that you intend for DC to replace WS...

[tosbsas]

Sorry I don't have a Tx - but can't you set system default to the highest step - on t3 that is so far 466 but will get back to more (I hope) and than set all the apps you don't want to overclock to lower levels??

I really hope that Dimitry is not mixing both apps - as they can coexits so fine -but thats up to him

Ruben

[tosbsas]

anyone tried that with t3 too??

Seems with mem 118 - maes 472 as system speed things are more quiet flickering wise

Ruben

[Church Punk]

I've tried several evolutions of this app and while the flicker and whine have improved... the slow down has not. I should clarify that I say slow-down from where WarpSpeed has enabled me to be - I overclock with WS to 512Mhz in order to get my TX as zippy as my old T3. Of course some of the apps are underclocked as well and some are just at system default.

Any plans to allow for overclocking using DynaClock? Or does this defeat the main focus of battery conservation? To be honest the battery on my TX is much more effecient than the T3 battery so overclocking doesn't seem to matter as much to me. Speed does matter though - a lot...

If you don't plan to allow overclocking with DC - will you still support WarpSpeed? I read that you intend for DC to replace WS...

do you actually have the sys default with 512mhz with your TX? and isnt still that fast? I have mine with 206mhz and it works fine for me. sometimes, i must admit, it slows down when i open certain apps (big ones). for the apps that i really need to work fast i have them to 520mhz (Resco Explorer for example, and it does a full backup in less than 5 mins, which is fair enough for me)

[PinCushionQueen]

do you actually have the sys default with 512mhz with your TX? and isnt still that fast? I have mine with 206mhz and it works fine for me. sometimes, i must admit, it slows down when i open certain apps (big ones). for the apps that i really need to work fast i have them to 520mhz (Resco Explorer for example, and it does a full backup in less than 5 mins, which is fair enough for me)

Oops I meant to say 520Mhz not 512Mhz...

My WarpSpeed system default is at 416 Mhz with some apps overclocked (520Mhz) and some underclocked (312 & 208Mhz). Just like you mentioned the really big ones are overclocked. My problem is that with DynaClock set to 1-11 on my TX it looks like the max is 416Mhz (which is 11 - if I'm understanding correctly).

IIRC the TX out of the box is 312Mhz, so I guess that 416Mhz is technically an overclock. But I'm wanting to be able to have 520Mhz on some apps. My 3rd party launcher (iSpin) using minimal transition effects and skinned with SkinUI requires 520Mhz to run at a comfortable pace (at least what I consider comfortable). I also use 520 settings for RescoBU, NVBackup, Legacy, and PalmPDF just to name a few.

Is there a way to have WarpSpeed override what DynaClock is doing and force 520Mhz? Then maybe I could just allow DynaClock to dictate the speed of the rest of the apps...
:)

[cllo]

Is it possible to make a version that allow the user to set the max speed for our device since every device have a difference limit?

For example my tx the max is 412, but i could set it to 377mhz*3/2 at 565 with warpspeed (at 221mhz*5/2 seem to be the fastest), which allow me to run benchmark with tcpmp. It could run a bit higher but crash at tcpmp dont seem to crash at other app, wonder why maybe I just havent test it long enough.

Anyway that is over 100mhz difference over 20%, which is a lot. Is it possible dmitrygr or smart ppl out there add this function to the app.

Thank, and this is certainly a great app. Must have for all user with suppported device.

[owl]

I still have problems with hotsyncing my T3, even after setting a fixed speed of 400Mhz for the HS-application.
If I sync large files (every morning I sync my isilo'ed newspages), hotsync sometimes gets sluggish and interrupts after some time :(
Most of the time a second hotsync right after the failed one works ok.

Is there someting that can be done to prevent that?

[tosbsas]

same here - main "problem" is security copy (to backup folder on pc)

Ruben

[docholliday]

I get the same problem. Randomly. Sometimes during backing up, others during a sync of some sort. I've even set mine to 5-5 on hotsync.

[tosbsas]

mine is 5-6 (:-))

Ruben

[stefe]

I just noticed that the program also expired for me.

I can't wait for the full version with per-app config! I stopped using it recently because my Palm TX kept on freezing after my scheduled backup with NVBackup, leaving me with a dead Palm in the morning.

Thank you for all of your hard work.


Is this a recurring problem? When I set DC on, even if i set the NVBackup in the exclude list, any scheduled backupo results in a freezed TX.
I set NVB to reset after the backup, it actally performs the whole backup, resets then freezes with a white screen.
No DC, no problem

Any help

Thanks

Stephen

[owl]

Still no fix or workaround for that? :confused:

[dmitrygr]

for what?!?!? with my ui you can set any app to default system speed and have no problems.

[owl]

for what?!?!? with my ui you can set any app to default system speed and have no problems.
BTDT. Maybe you could tell my Hotsync-application that it should not freeze during hotsync even when set to default speed (ie 400 Mhz) :rolleyes:

[dmitrygr]

hm and this ia lestest DC + my ui?
and u sure u have hotsync set to state where mem=100 bus=200 and cpu=400?

[tosbsas]

yeah, same problem here - seems that synchronizing is kind of difficult - I don't have any problem when deleting backup folder first. If not security copy hangs once in a while

Ruben

[owl]

hm and this ia lestest DC + my ui?
Yes.
and u sure u have hotsync set to state where mem=100 bus=200 and cpu=400?
Yes.
The Problem is that I can't tell you what goes wrong and when. 3 out of 5 Hotsyncs work just fine and the other 2 freeze at different stages of the Hotsync :confused:

[docholliday]

Dimitry,

Have you changed anything in DC or the ui since Sept 4? That was the last time I downloaded, and still had some weird problems, including the odd Hotsync one. Out of 10 hotsyncs in a row, 4 worked, the other 6 died randomly at different places. One of the those started hotsync and promptly died..."Lost connection".

[pae]

Would appreciate some comments on my experience with the app on my T3.

I use MyKbd and what I've found is that I need to set Dynaclock to a min freq to 150Mhz in order to get the MyKbd functioning reliably otherwise the letter detection is extremely slow. Min clocking to 150Mhz works fine.

But I'm also a registered user of PXAClocker which I also can set to 150Mhz.

Can someone confirm if I'm getting any better battery life by using Dynaclock when set to min 150Mhz compared to using PXAClocker running at that frequency.

I'm assuming that I'm not getting any better battery life (but probably worse because Dynaclock will clock up if needed on some apps) but the benefit is that on the apps that need higher clocking I'll get better performance.

Is this a correct assessment or am I missing something on the way that Dynaclock works?

Thanks
Paul

[tosbsas]

I have warpspeed and I get better battery life, cause i never underclocked. If you underclock seriously you might loose a bit, but apps are more responsive

What I do know is that dc overwrites any clocking -at least of warspeed

Ruben

[T3_slider]

Can someone confirm if I'm getting any better battery life by using Dynaclock when set to min 150Mhz compared to using PXAClocker running at that frequency.
You will most certainly NOT get better battery life. In fact, you will get worse battery life (you are correct). However, you will get better responsiveness because it clocks higher only when needed (as tosbsas said above). With PXA set to 150 MHz, it is always running at a low speed. With DC running at a minimum of 150 MHz, it will sometimes run at 150 MHz, but sometimes higher (if needed). Therefore you will receive a performance increase but a battery life hit. The only thing that might change this scenario is if the BUS and MEM settings are different in DC and PXA -- in this case the battery life hit might not be as serious, or it may be more serious.

So if you're happy with the performance you get with PXA at 150 MHz, then I would stay stick with it. If, however, you want a generally low clock speed to increase battery life, but do not want to sacrifice performance (ie you find the performance of PXA lacking a bit on some applications), then I would say go with DC.

[pae]

Thanks to you both.

My understanding was correct then and I wasn't missing something obvious. Appreciate the responses.

Paul

[tosbsas]

Well guys - be aware that we will need a new version from Dimitry fast. 20th of september this one expires (:-((

Ruben

[T3_slider]

AHHHHHHHHHH!!! THAT'S TOMORROW!!!

I can't LIVE without this program...
Dmitry...please...help the helpless...(free or not)

[dmitrygr]

OK. Dynaclock updated. UI updated. ui sources updated.

[tosbsas]

Hey thanks a lot Dimitry

Only thing missing is higher max on t3 - I know will not work an all devices (:-)) On mine it does

Ruben

[owl]

OK. Dynaclock updated. UI updated. ui sources updated.
Hotsync-problem fixed?

[tosbsas]

No problem with hotsynch here when first emptying the backup folder

Ruben

[Dennis]

Hi Dmitry,
Is there any advantage to using Warpspeed with DC?
I've used DC from the beginning and like the way it works. Should I disable
Warpspeed or is the an advantage of having both? If so can you explain what settings would work the best. I normally underclock my T3 for battery life and then set a higher CPU for programs like TCPMP or Pocket Tunes.
System Default 0-0
TCPMP 0-2
Pocket Tunes 1-2

Thanks
Dennis

[owl]

No problem with hotsynch here when first emptying the backup folder
Try to hotsync several large (> 1 MB) files :(

[tosbsas]

Actually WS kills screenwhine, but DC will overwrite all warpspeed settings. Main advantage of dc is that its not fixed so processor underclocks whenever its possible.

I have set Ws to 472 now, seems to help with screen flickering with dc working. (Don't ask me why (:-))

Ptunes works easy with 200 mhz
Hotsynch should get 5-6
System Default 0-6 - that way you let dc decide about speed - makes a good battery life

Ruben

[dmitrygr]

setting hotsync to dynamic is not such a great idea. maybe leave it at 6-6?

[tosbsas]

what do you synch (:-)) ???

Ruben

[cyberdude]

Dmitry,

The link for the UI in the first post is not working - did I miss another link somewhere?

[dmitrygr]

it is now part of the main archive

[cllo]

This is such a great app. If and only if we could set more state by ourself like wrapspeed does, or just set a higher max. Since this app will most likely replace wrapspeed. If this doesnt allow higher max. I dont see why ppl would jump from wrapspeed to dynaclock. Well, i got my tx after dynaclock is up, but it will be very hard to say which one to buy at the moment.

Higher max or user changerable state will lead me to buy dynaclock, but right now, wrapspeed may be a better option with about 20% higher max on my tx.

[Dennis]

Dmitry,
I bought DC this morning and it's working great.
I noticed one thing with Warpspeed since I have
DC installed. These are maximun settings for my T3
in Warpspeed.

MEM = 166 = 166
BUS =MEMx 3 = 498
CPU = BUSx 6 / 2 = 1494

Thanks
Dennis