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jbarr
04-16-2003, 11:09 AM
This may be an obvious one, but it had eluded me until recently. Did you know that you can convert movies to a format that the Clie Movie Player can play using the Image Converter program without converting directly to your Memory Stick?

The other night, I decided to try converting some video into a format that the Clie Movie Player could play. (For more information on ripping DVDs, and converting files using Image Converter, please do a search on these forums.) I followed some instructions and ripped a DVD using the DVDx program. The resulting file was a VCD-compliant MPEG file that was 780MB in size.

The next step was to use the Sony Image Converter program included on the CD that came with my NX. This program converts the MPEG file into a highly compressed QuickTime format that the Clie Movie Player can play.

The problem with this was that I had no way of knowing if this will fit onto my 128MB Memory Stick once converted using the Image Converter program. Every time I did a convert, I typically selected the drive letter assigned to my Clie after initiating an MSImport. But in this case, I didn't know if the file is going to fit, and it was going to take a long time to convert the 1 1/2 hour movie.

So, all you have to do is just select a different drive number of a hard drive that has enough free space. The kicker is that when you do this, a dialog box pops up stating that the selected drive is not a Memory Stick drive. In the past, I blindly assumed that the conversion HAD to go directly to the Memory Stick, so I always cancelled out. This time, instead, I clicked on OK to continue, and Image Converter automatically created the proper directory structure on my hard drive and built the converted file onto my hard drive! At that point, it was a simple matter of checking the file size in Windows Explorer. (In this case, the file was about 79MB in size, so yes, it would fit on my Memory Stick.) I could also play the file in QuickTime if I chose, and it was a simple matter of transfering the file to my Clie using MSImport. In addition, having the movie on my hard drive lets me archive it so that I can keep a library of movies if I want and load them onto my Clie using MSImport as needed.

The point is that sometimes, the included programs have non-obvious functionality. Is this in the manual? Probably, but who reads those things anyway?!?

For this and other tips, do a search on this forum for "Jim's Tips" or visit my web site, jimstips.com

archangel
04-16-2003, 05:42 PM
Doh! I always just cancelled as well. Thanks for the tip.

ScottM
04-21-2003, 12:23 PM
i would to check with you guys, whether its normal for the MS image converter program to hang during file conversions past 10mbs ? cause mine does, and it hangs my clie too .. have to reset at both ends ... frustrating !!!

timw_de
04-21-2003, 12:28 PM
yeah thats the way i do it
i use the following command (as a batch file)
choose drive z
and it neatly puts the resulting files into the directory

subst z: c:\tmp\memory_stick_emulator

cbulock
04-21-2003, 01:04 PM
Originally posted by ScottM
i would to check with you guys, whether its normal for the MS image converter program to hang during file conversions past 10mbs ? cause mine does, and it hangs my clie too .. have to reset at both ends ... frustrating !!!

No, thats not normal. I've made movies that were over 100MB in size. Might want to try uninstalling and reinstalling the Image Converter.

darkness
04-26-2003, 01:00 AM
AFAIK, Image Converter will actually limit each file size to 128mb. So if you convert a movie that requires > 128mb, it will break up into several files of 128mb.

ironswede
05-07-2003, 11:03 PM
To Jim or anyone that can help.

I am into putting movies on my Clie SJ-33 more than anything. All I want to do is learn how to make these huge movies that dont fit on my MS to fit. What can I do? Please assume that I dont know how to use a computer and dont use big words. I am just learning. I have Kinoma movie producer. Can someone please help me?

Thank you so much
Ryan

Matai
05-11-2003, 06:14 PM
Originally posted by jbarr
This may be an obvious one, but it had eluded me until recently. Did you know that you can convert movies to a format that the Clie Movie Player can play using the Image Converter program without converting directly to your Memory Stick?

The other night, I decided to try converting some video into a format that the Clie Movie Player could play. (For more information on ripping DVDs, and converting files using Image Converter, please do a search on these forums.) I followed some instructions and ripped a DVD using the DVDx program. The resulting file was a VCD-compliant MPEG file that was 780MB in size.

The next step was to use the Sony Image Converter program included on the CD that came with my NX. This program converts the MPEG file into a highly compressed QuickTime format that the Clie Movie Player can play.

The problem with this was that I had no way of knowing if this will fit onto my 128MB Memory Stick once converted using the Image Converter program. Every time I did a convert, I typically selected the drive letter assigned to my Clie after initiating an MSImport. But in this case, I didn't know if the file is going to fit, and it was going to take a long time to convert the 1 1/2 hour movie.

So, all you have to do is just select a different drive number of a hard drive that has enough free space. The kicker is that when you do this, a dialog box pops up stating that the selected drive is not a Memory Stick drive. In the past, I blindly assumed that the conversion HAD to go directly to the Memory Stick, so I always cancelled out. This time, instead, I clicked on OK to continue, and Image Converter automatically created the proper directory structure on my hard drive and built the converted file onto my hard drive! At that point, it was a simple matter of checking the file size in Windows Explorer. (In this case, the file was about 79MB in size, so yes, it would fit on my Memory Stick.) I could also play the file in QuickTime if I chose, and it was a simple matter of transfering the file to my Clie using MSImport. In addition, having the movie on my hard drive lets me archive it so that I can keep a library of movies if I want and load them onto my Clie using MSImport as needed.

The point is that sometimes, the included programs have non-obvious functionality. Is this in the manual? Probably, but who reads those things anyway?!?

For this and other tips, do a search on this forum for "Jim's Tips" or visit my web site, jimstips.com

Can ayone tell me a good program to rip DVD's? I am using DVD-to-Mpeg and Amigo DVDRipper and they seem to only rip 20-40mins of the movie. I can never rip a whole movie. Any advice?

Wayne
05-12-2003, 12:05 AM
So you're saying you can convert a 780meg MPEG file into a 79megger viewable on Clie?

cbulock
05-12-2003, 12:13 AM
Yes, thats quite possible.

wobly
05-24-2003, 01:47 AM
EazyVCD is the easiest and cheapest ripper I have found. www.eazyvcd.tk

fiftyracer
05-25-2003, 11:36 AM
If I am reading this right, it says that you can shrink down a full movie to 80mb. Can this small file be played back on a pc then as well? If it could, or be brought back to life somehow, a person could theoreticaly fit a massive film library on a 100g hard drive. Right now I see films at roughly 700,000kb with a Divx or avi codec. Do you know the codec on the shrunk file?

cbulock
05-25-2003, 12:01 PM
Divx files won't usually shrink down. They might even increse in size. Getting a 700MB MPEG file down to 80MB is quite possible since the codecs are quite different.

fiftyracer
05-26-2003, 12:13 AM
and what codec should i use to get to 80mb?

f1_smiley
03-03-2004, 05:40 AM
hmmm.... the prog was asking me for ASPI drivers too but i just went through without installing them and it still worked! thanks for the tip!!! you rock dude!

PDA Expert
03-07-2004, 01:06 PM
GREAT TIP! Thanks.

MikeMania
03-18-2004, 07:29 PM
well...if thefile doesn't fit in the desired memory stick then image converter will pop-up a message saying that even before u begin the convert proess....and whats the difference putting it directy onto the clie and putting on your hardrive? its still the same size and u even have to wait longer when u drag that huge file into the memory stick directory....but nice tip nonetheless...never knew about it.

zackepceo
03-21-2004, 06:54 PM
Keep in mind that the 80 meg file is a 320x240 16 bit movie at medium compression with compressed sound.. its possible to have a big collection of movie on a 100gb drive like this, but they wouldnt be of much quality at all.

zackepceo
03-21-2004, 06:55 PM
That is, if you were trying to play it full screen or on a tv or something like that.

Destino
03-29-2004, 09:33 AM
Please when I use image converter to view movie,I haven't any sound.
What can I do please?