Rumor: Sony Vaio UX

[Joel]

Sony has released a teaser about a new VAIO device. Why is it in the 1src front page? Well, the new device is being called a "UX" ... [details (http://www.1src.com/?m=show&id=1552)]

[dragonsgames]

WHY DO THEY MOCK US!??! :o :(

[medevilenemy]

i get the sense that it is simply sony's micosoft-esque way to release their own origami device (criptic advert remind anyone of anything? it should -- except it has nicer music). UX is probably simply a model name they came up for it especially to interest us PDA people. I wouldn't think too much of it. I personally believe that the "origami" in all of its major variants will probably be a horrible flop like previous tablet PC implementations have been.

[Joel]

I also believe that "origami" is a flop. However, if Sony puts in a PDA component in this device, then the situation might change. Well, they got my attention with the UX term so I hope they have good reasons for using that.

We'll see what happens in the coming days.

Btw, welcome to 1src, medevilenemy.

[dragonsgames]

Maybe they forgot they made a PDA called the UX... :rolleyes:

[medevilenemy]

the thing is, there is no "PDA component" they could put in, besides something like PalmOS. An origami device is basically the lifedrive with a bigger screen, without the huge hard keys, and with a terrible OS

[dragonsgames]

http://www.engadget.com/2006/05/14/is-this-the-vaio-from-sonys-teaser-campaign/#comments
MORE PICS!!!
WOW!!! THAT IS HOT!!!
Too bad they might be fake... :(

[Joel]

More pics from jkOnTheRun (http://jkontherun.blogs.com/jkontherun/2006/05/more_sony_ux_pi.html)

Here they are (sorry in advance for the auto-watermarking... again, jkOnTheRun posted these pictures first)

[Joel]

...still from jkOnTheRun

[dragonsgames]

I was just thinking, they look fake. What you think?

[DanT]

Input, input, I want more input :p

[Joel]

Basically all rumors now, DanT... but all this smells UMPC now that I've seen the pics :(

SONY! Get back into the PalmOS arena already. I'll welcome you back. :)

[mastershake]

Hmmm. If you read the little 'slogan' at the end of the flash animation, it reads "Is it green, red, orange, or Blu" The word 'Blu', is emphasized in the color blue and is spelled 'blu' not 'blue' leads me to believe that this new hardware has Sony's Blu-Ray in it? Maybe? Which means it is most likely a UMPC not a PDA. I wish it was a new PDA. ANd anyone notice in those pics that they borrowed from their own design of the UX as the sides of the mysterious hardware look like the bottom of a UX below the keyboard, but cut in half and swung to the sides. Maybe why UX is in the title. Is this making any sense?

~Andrew

[Joel]

You're making sense mastershake... as I've been thinking the same thing :) UX form factor... and that's about it. Let's just wait and see.

[dragonsgames]

It is more VZ formfactor (slider) but has features from the UX. THIS IS WHAT I HAVE ALWAYS WANTED!!! But it isn't pocketable... :(

[mastershake]

Me too DG! Oh and Joel, thanks for making me feel not as crazy :).

~Andrew

[DanT]

As long as it's thinner and lighter than this brick (http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/umpc/default.mspx), I'll buy it.

[SonyStyle]

now this is a device that i will buy!

[jjesusfreak01]

My opinion, no photoshop. The pics look good and conform to the video...

It looks like a really cool device, but will they ever learn to cut out all of the external junk.

[dragonsgames]

I bet it would be expensive, though... :(

[Joel]

If Sony comes out a winner with this, imagine how many other devices in this line they'll come out with! (Talking from clie-experience lol!)

mastershake, thanks for that other post, I've already updated the main article to show the message: "Is it red, green, orange, or Blu?"

[dragonsgames]

Joel, don't get me over excited... :o :eek:

[SonyStyle]

when hte VZ90 and UX50 mate, their offspring is a the new Vaio UX

[SonyStyle]

this is def. real, i saw the video from sony's official vaio learning centre if u look at the video
1. pic of "vaio" sign (vaio sign on right of device)
2. speaker (speaker is shown on left of the deevice)
3. the flash in video(flash on device for camera)
4. pic of slide open backview (slide of the device)
5. power button (power button on device)

hints that this is REALLLLLLLLLLLLLL

[dragonsgames]

AHHHH!!! SO MUCH EXCITEMENT!!! :eek:

[Joel]

Wow, I've never seen so many "old" members in this thread since... since Cliesource (http://web.archive.org/web/*/http://www.cliesource.com)! :)

[mastershake]

Would I be considered in old member? haha I use to read Cliesource, didn't become a member until the changeover to 1SRC when I got my UX-50. Ahh the old days :)

[Joel]

Not necessarily posting, I mean. I just saw their names pop up in the "active users viewing this thread" list. :)

[dragonsgames]

They want another Clie ;)

[intellidryad]

Oh, gosh. I was reading about this on the Japanese Sony fansite so-mo.net, but didn't realise it was something like this... (need better Japanese, I guess.) And they were calling it the "AR series"... May be the AR is yet another one.

I was just starting to consider getting the Vaio FJ... Now I'm going to wait until this baby comes out :)

By the way, there's 2 "comming soon" tabs under this flash movie:
http://www.vaio.sony.co.jp/Products/Concept/Vision/
maybe it's the type UX and AR.

Oh.... Never been this excited after the Clie VZ launch. Palm certainly needs to learn more on creating buzz.

[intellidryad]

Yup, if another Clie comes out, I'd definately save up ^^

[dragonsgames]

Too bad this isn't pocketable. More of a laptop replacement... (would I replace my iBook with this? :eek: )

[Joel]

Too bad this isn't pocketable. More of a laptop replacement... (would I replace my iBook with this? :eek: )

We don't know what Apple has yet. Rumors say a bigger iPod with OS X mode and iPod mode. ;)

[mastershake]

intellidryad I agree. Palm reminds of Microsoft, other than the 360 or the UMPC, where they don't go viral or create any buzz, and since there was no buildup, the product comes out, and everyone thinks, "well, that's kinda interesting." But when Apple comes out with products, they make buzz around it. There are so many more rumors around new Apple products than there are for new Microsoft ones. Sorry to compare Sony to Apple and Palm to Microsoft, but they just jump right out at me. I can tell you I haven't been this excited in a long time. As I have heard said about Apple, sony could release a new handheld which is poop colored purple, and I'd buy it. That's good marketing, and a very smelly product.

~Andrew

[Kitten]

Sony is a cruel cruel mistress. I want it already. I don't really know or care what it is. If it's a PDA, I'll want it. If it's a UPMC, I'll want it. Even though I know it will cost way more than I'd like. I'm addicted to Sony.

[JAmerican]

OMFG!!! Sony has finally made the UX replacement I've been waiting for. Its basically a VZ + UX. :) Just larger though. :( and more expensive (a given!!).

I can't believe it. Sony CLIE UX50. Now Sony Vaio UX. LMAO!! What's next. Can't wait to see it in action :)

JAmerican

[Pookkie]

If this thing is going to use BLU-RAY, doesn't it seem that BLU-RAY mite go the way of Beta or is the PS3 going to save it?

[dragonsgames]

I think HD-DVD might lose the battle, actually... :o
I think this uses CD... :)

[Joel]

I was thinking about the dock and its many ports. How do you think the dock is going to be used?

[dragonsgames]

To sync with the mother-ship? ;)

[BUMP THAT]

Well it will clearly be PC based device based on the current look/buttons and layout of the KB. Honestly, since when did a Palm or PPC need/have a "ESC" Key? However I would not be surprised if had POS or WM5 as an alternate OS . ;)

[Legodude522]

Hmm, this might be overshadowed by the OQO and Zaurus. Zaurus is what finished the Sony Clies in Japan.

[Legodude522]

If this thing is going to use BLU-RAY, doesn't it seem that BLU-RAY mite go the way of Beta or is the PS3 going to save it?
Ok, let me get this all straight. This thing will definatly not have blue-ray! Not capable and it would add $500 to the price. Aren't current Blue-Ray players $400 by itself?

Sorry kids...

[peterjb31]

The only way any form of UMPC device could be a replacement for a PDA is if it used something similar to the setup for the Vulcan Tapstart (Google it, never got off the ground unfortunately).

[psau3]

OMFG!!! Sony has finally made the UX replacement I've been waiting for. Its basically a VZ + UX. :) Just larger though.
I had a feeling something like this this would eventually happen, but feel it's a pity they didn't resurrect the Clie brand.

The styling is interesting. That keyboard looks like it could be a pain to use. Inset reduced-size flush hard keys? Fingerprint sensor at the top of the screen? Strange choices. Being a Sony product, it'll likely be very pricey, but since when did that bother us Clie users? ;)

I'm using a Fujitsu-Siemens P1510 - think sub-1kilo real-world UX50. 6 hours of widescreen movie playback, 8 hours+ keyboard or tablet use, and World of Warcraft in the palm of my hand. Go go TH55 WiFi webcam!

Sorry Sony. Too late. :D

[intellidryad]

All right
the sony flash movie actually has 2 vaios in it

The UX: the UMPC (the OS is XP PRO)
The AR: the first blu-ray equipped vaio

Google translate www.so-mo.net to read more :)

[DanT]

One translation from that site:

"The UX180P is set to be released in the U.S. for $1,799.99 around June. It will have a 4.5 inch 1024x600 touchscreen with XBRITE, slide-out QWERTY keyboard, Windows XP Professional, 1.2GHz Core Solo processor, 512MB RAM, 30GB hard drive with shock protection, 802.11a/b/g, WAN (Cingular EDGE), Bluetooth, dual cameras (VGA on the front, 1.3 MP on the back) with a microphone, and a biometric fingerprint sensor. There is 1 USB port, a Memory Stick slot!, and headphone and microphone inputs. The weight is 1.1 pounds with dimensions of 6" x 4" x 2" and the battery will last from 3 to 7 hours. A stylus and a case will be included, as well as a docking station which adds 3 USB ports, 1 Firewire port, and VGA/AV outputs. You can view the screen in portrait or landscape modes with the ability to zoom with dedicated buttons. GPS will also be supported through Bluetooth and pre-installed software. For those who wondering, the images in this post are indeed what the UX180P will look like."

[Joel]

Ok, so it's definitely a VAIO. Well, it was fun speculating what the device could have been. Wow. $1799!? ... $200 more and you could get a 15" MacBook Pro (or three Mac minis or four 60GB iPods) :D

This thread will eventually be moved to OT: Gadgets & Gizmos (http://www.1src.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=146).

[DanT]

What a brick! 2" thick and tiny 4.5" touchscreen? This makes LD looks slim with huge screen. My TH has 4" touchscreen and only 5/8" thick on the thicker end (camera). Back to my good-old TH. ;)

[COmedic04]

Go go TH55 WiFi webcam!

LMAO...
:D

Well, I'm a little late to the party, but may I say, WOW!! Vaio/Clie, or whatever, this is exciting! Honestly, this is more along the lines of what I got excited about when I first heard the buzz about UMPCs!! Then the first couple came down the line from Samsung, and I was unimpressed...very niche (haha, and this coming from a loyal Clie/Palm user!). But this looks like what we've come to love from Sony! Hallelujah! (Of course, this had to come out after I caved and bought a T|X!) :p Start saving the pennies, I suppose...

[DanT]

Pass on this. Even my laptop is just over 1" thick. Next one please!

[smoothjordan]

definate pass. The TH55 does what I need, so I'll stick with it for a while. That price is rediculous!!! First the PS3, now this. Sony must be wanting some money really bad!

[SonyStyle]

will canada get it?

[Samuel spade]

Wow, I've never seen so many "old" members in this thread since... since Cliesource (http://web.archive.org/web/*/http://www.cliesource.com)! :)

Heh! It's true, I've spent so much time on other (non-tech) forums, still melancholy with the end of the C-line, but this is ALWAYS the 1rst place I want to come to when I hear even the slightest hint of anything related to Sony where this market is concerned.
Price is hefty for this, but I don't see Sony not having less feature-filled version/s of this behind the scenes. They may simply be feeling out the reaction atm. (hopefully :( )

[Ezikial Anta]

What about the posibility of a dual booting PalmOS and XP like a device someone was making with Windows XP / WM5.0?

It's a gorgeous device, I wish they would re-enter with just one last super innovative PDA... Sad that the VZ never even came over either...


Good to see other old members!

[Kevin Dubrow]

The only way any form of UMPC device could be a replacement for a PDA is if it used something similar to the setup for the Vulcan Tapstart (Google it, never got off the ground unfortunately).

Wow, I can't even find anything about it...

[dragonsgames]

If it isn't on Engadget, it doesn't exist ;)

[DanT]

definate pass. The TH55 does what I need, so I'll stick with it for a while. That price is rediculous!!! First the PS3, now this. Sony must be wanting some money really bad!

You can get my smaller (1/2" shorter and 1/2" thinner) UX180 :p really cheap?

http://www.1src.com/gallery/data/500/2949My_UX180P.JPG

[dragonsgames]

I really love the wood! GO SONY!!! ;)

[smoothjordan]

You can get my smaller (1/2" shorter and 1/2" thinner) UX180 :p really cheap?

http://www.1src.com/gallery/data/500/2949My_UX180P.JPG

Looks hot!!! I want!

[dragonsgames]

It's Sony! I will pay $500!!!! :eek: ;)

[DanT]

My slimmer and shorter UX180:p won't in my pocket :mad:

[dragonsgames]

Then make a new one :p

[Joel]

The new VAIO's are: UX Micro PC and AR Digital Studio

[Kitten]

Oh is that ever yummy. I want it now!

[Joel]

The site does not have any pricing or specs yet.

[evildude]

I knew sony would re-do something like a pda. Since it willl only be a JP/EU thing we may never really see it. If it winds being a another palm clone, I dont want one. But If it runs the some variant of linux (palm or otherwise) i may.

I desperatly need certain things. Like working VOIP, working Browser, Working Bluetooth. You know, things that work instead of half *** implementations.

[destroyer]

$1,799. What the hell were they thinking? It'll be DOA. What an expensive frivolous gadget.

[Enceladus]

I'm happy to see this device. I love the UX50 and I need to see Sony come out with an updated machine, something along the lines of this.

[Kitten]

Sony, 1 pound and $1800? This just makes me sad.
http://news.com.com/Sony+trots+out+new+PCs/2100-1041_3-6072581.html?tag=nefd.top

[DanT]

"...pocket-size PC that runs Microsoft's XP Professional operating system. It will be available in July."

Pocket-size? This 2x4 ain't fit in my pocket. Somebody's purse may be.

[Joel]

GeekStuff4U (http://www.geekstuff4u.com/product_info.php?manufacturers_id=&products_id=371) is already getting pre-orders. The site also shows the stats, for those interested.

Configured to the max specs:

VGN-UX90
- CPU: Intel Core Solo U1400 (1.20Ghz)
- Cradle Docking Station
- HDD: 30GB
- Keyboard Layout English QWERTY Included
- Operating System English XP PRO OEM
- Warranty 3 Year Included

The final price is <drumroll>.... $2,254.49 :D

[Joel]

Here are the stats from GeekStuff4u (via Akihabara News).

It's nice to see that they're calling this a "UX90"

[DanT]

1.26" thick sounds much much better.

[jjesusfreak01]

What about the posibility of a dual booting PalmOS and XP like a device someone was making with Windows XP / WM5.0?

It's a gorgeous device, I wish they would re-enter with just one last super innovative PDA... Sad that the VZ never even came over either...


Good to see other old members!
Not possible, you would have to write drivers for everything, and write an emulator for the processor. The only device that can boot a mobile OS and a desktop OS has a separate ARM processor for booting in mobile mode.

That said, the device is still cool, and I was thinking...since you can turn the screen to portrait mode, you could install the Palm Simulator and run apps that way.

[Joel]

Linux is a free option. So I'm seeing Linux users going for this, that is if they don't prefer using the Nokia 770.

[DanT]

I try to pre-order VGN-UX90 for $1800, but this SonyStyle site (http://www.sonystyle.com/is-bin/INTERSHOP.enfinity/eCS/Store/en/-/USD/SY_BrowseCatalog-Start?CategoryName=cpu_VAIONotebookComputers_UX_Series&Dept=computers) is still saying UX180P. Are VGN-UX90 and UX180P referring to the same device? I sure don't want to get the 2" brick.

[Joel]

Hmm... now I'm confused.

I'd go with SonyStyle, DanT... nothing beats the original source.

[bdhu2001]

That said, the device is still cool, and I was thinking...since you can turn the screen to portrait mode, you could install the Palm Simulator and run apps that way. hmm the Palm simulator. That might make it doable. I already have the VGN T250, I don't know if I'm ready to pop for another small computer, this one w/o a DVD reader/writer. I am tempted and the price isn't bad, but I have software on my job PC that talks to palm software. Thus, I have easy access and review even when I can't connect to the internet. Paying Cingular $40+ for the occasional connectivity just hasn't been something I wanted to do.

[DanT]

The spec dimension is the same one.
It says 5.91”(W) x 3.74”(H) x 1.27-1.50”(D)
2" will be way too thick for me. That's just like lugging a 1000-page paperback novel in your pocket. 1.27" is like my laptop. I can handle that. So pre-ordered it went. :p

VGN-UX180P
Sony VAIO® UX180P Micro PC
Preorder Model - Available on or about Jul 05, 2006. VGN-UX180P 1 $ 1,799.99
shipping Ground : 6-10 Business Days (Delivered Monday-Saturday, except TVs above 27" (no Saturday). No P.O. boxes or APO/FPO addresses.) $ 0.00
Total for this item $ 1,799.99
ITEMS(s) SUBTOTAL $ 1,799.99
SUBTOTAL $ 1,799.99
TAX $ 148.50
GRAND TOTAL $ 1,948.49

[Joel]

Congrats, DanT. We'll wait for your review!

[bdhu2001]

Quote by DanT 1.27" is like my laptop. I can handle that. So pre-ordered it went. I'm salivating. You've got to keep us posted. I haven't been able to talk myself into a mini computer with only 3 hour battery life, but it's only 6:00 a.m. on the first day of the specs. I'll probably cave by the time it's available.

[DanT]

I'm not good in giving review, just tearing things apart and put them back together in one piece. :p I won't do that on this unit until the warranty is out. ;)

However, I'll give a shot at the review, if someone else not beating me to it.

[LupeValenz]

Just to expensive for me, and with the PS3 later....I need to get more money lol.

[SonyStyle]

i want one so badly, i m gonna ask my mom to get it or finance that thing for me!

[SonyStyle]

err...sonystyle.ca doenst have it?

[DanT]

Joel,

Are you going to add VGN-UX180P forum here?

[SonyStyle]

wow, july is a lonnnnnnnnnnggggggggg wait

[SonyStyle]

noo OLED screen? umm...3.5" screen? thats smalelr than a th55 screen, the th has 3.8", maybe cnet has it wrong?

http://reviews.cnet.com/4532-10921_7-0.html?authorId=5092826

[JReagan1990]

*sigh* UMPC

I will give it one thing.... It does look cool, and small. Will this thing will run xp?

[DanT]

noo OLED screen? umm...3.5" screen? thats smalelr than a th55 screen, the th has 3.8", maybe cnet has it wrong?

http://reviews.cnet.com/4532-10921_7-0.html?authorId=5092826

Read it again. It says 4.5" like I quoted previously from SonyStyle. TH55 has 3.875".

[DanT]

*sigh* UMPC

I will give it one thing.... It does look cool, and small. Will this thing will run xp?

What's wrong with UMPC?

6"x4"x2" won't fit in my pocket, but 5.91”x3.74”x 1.27” would. I made a dummy-size wood of it to test it with my Docker pants side pocket. I can always do the Batman thing with belt case. ;)

It fits Yes it runs XP. Read the SonyStyle link I posted earlier:

"Micro Computer, Maximum Enjoyment
Compact, lightweight and extremely portable, yet packed with digital entertainment technology. The VAIO® UX Micro PC is truly an achievement in ingenious design, incorporating years of Sony know-how to deliver a full-functioning PC that literally fits in your pocket. A 4.5” widescreen display5 with XBRITE™ LCD technology delivers a clean, crisp viewing surface while an Intel® Core™ Solo Ultra Low Voltage processor and Microsoft® XP Professional operating system provide the full PC usage experience you need."

[JAmerican]

LMAO, they are calling it the UX series and everything. Its amazing. I think Sony themselves believed the UX was a great device and concept (a mini computer) so they decided to try it under a more known product line. I do feel that the UX under VAIO may not do so well through due to price and, as DanT said as well, size. It does look like the successor to the UX but with a VZ twist. The Vaio UX features the same kind of design as the CLIE UX such as the curved edges, membrane-like keys and the darkened borders around the screen. Can't wait to see a review. I wish I had the money to buy this and do a review on it. :(

One thing I saw that amazed me is that it weighs only 1.1 pounds. Thats lighter than most laptops. May be bulky but light.

JAmerican

[SonyStyle]

cnet says 3.5
sonystyle says 4.5
so ithink cnet is wrong

[DanT]

cnet is not wrong. You are. Below is what I read from cnet.

"...Throwing its hat into--or at least nearby--the UMPC ring, Sony has announced the VAIO UX180P Micro PC. Taking some of the most innovative elements of the T-Mobile Sidekick and the OQO Model 01, the VAIO UX180P features a a 4.5-inch (diagonal) wide-screen display, which slides up to reveal a QWERTY keypad. We got a sneak preview of this thing a few weeks ago, and our early impression was that it's friggin' cool. But this is Sony, after all, and the VAIO UX180P is also friggin' expensive...."

[dragonsgames]

I'm getting this!!! :D
(once it is discontinued, of course ;))

[SonyStyle]

excerpt from cnet:

...We watched some movie clips on the VAIO UX180P, which looked great on its 3.5-inch display, and we surfed around the Web a bit using the stylus to navigate. Sony told us that these systems are getting about 3.5 hours of battery life, less if you're watching a movie or surfing wirelessly, and they'll run up to 4.5 hours if you're being extremely gentle. ......

[dragonsgames]

Stupid CNet... :rolleyes:

[DanT]

excerpt from cnet:

...We watched some movie clips on the VAIO UX180P, which looked great on its 3.5-inch display, and we surfed around the Web a bit using the stylus to navigate. Sony told us that these systems are getting about 3.5 hours of battery life, less if you're watching a movie or surfing wirelessly, and they'll run up to 4.5 hours if you're being extremely gentle. ......

I see that now. My apology. They are inconsistent.

[arth1]

What's funny is that one of the three models is called the UX50. That sure confused me, as well as a lot of reviewers.

Theres's the UX50 (Japan only), UX90/S (Japan only) and UX180P (US only). The UX50 and 90 seem most attractive (to me, at least), as they have a CF slot instead of the Cingular EDGE antenna (and provider binding).

[DanT]

What a bunch of copycats. :rolleyes:

[Joel]

Joel,

Are you going to add VGN-UX180P forum here?
No... we're already pushing our luck treating it as on-topic ;)

[SonyStyle]

the most dissapointing aspect of this device is that it only has 1.3MP camera, c'mon sony, we know u have the technology to make 2.0MP (hint hint nz90), even nokia's n80 has 3.2MP camera, u can even borrow that 2.0MP tech from the w810!!!!

[Joel]

What's funny is that one of the three models is called the UX50. That sure confused me, as well as a lot of reviewers.

Theres's the UX50 (Japan only), UX90/S (Japan only) and UX180P (US only). The UX50 and 90 seem most attractive (to me, at least), as they have a CF slot instead of the Cingular EDGE antenna (and provider binding).

Thanks for clarifying this. Now to catch up on what's up with the MacBook family (http://web.mac.com/jsuplido/iWeb/mac/Blog/FD3CF632-471E-47F2-B583-D51655243E18.html).

[depret]

Mini Review
Scaled print out of the device using 5.9x3.7x.. . Here is what I can measure from my "unit".

closed = 5.91 x 3.74 x..
open = 5.91 x 5.25 x..
antenna = 5.91 x 5 7/8
screen = 3 31/32 x 2 3/8
screen (diagonal) = 4 5/8
one key (letters) = 1/4 x 3/16
keyboard = 4 3/8 x 1 1/4

Usageability:
After printing a scale model, I cut it out. When I wrap my hands around the sides, the columns of keys above the space bar and the column of keys just right of the space bar are not reachable with my thumbs.

If I hold the UX from the bottom, all keys are reachable except the top key of the 7th column.

If you are serious about the UX I recommend doing this usability test yourself. I had the same concern about the TH55 jog wheel but Sony was right about the location. At $1800 for this beauty, I will wait for the reviews.

P.S. Beautiful device but not that price.

[bdhu2001]

I'm looking at this hoping to gain some of the things I lost moving from the UX50 to VZ90 and if it replaces my mini laptop, great.

I can't wait for DanT's reviews to hopefully address my misconceptions:

As far as I can tell, it's a UX series, but it doesn't have a tilt screen. Which means, un-like my laptop and UX it doesn't allow you to easily see the display while using the keyboard.

I looked at the Samsung competition and it has the flip or tilt screen which was previously the one of the awesome features only in Sony pdas.

Because it's a PC, I can't access my job programs w/o use of the internet. With palm OS I could sync software with a mobile version that I could access w/o going on-line. I would have to use a flash drive or e-mail copies of projects, word documents, etc to this device. Additionally, I'd have to install all of the same memory hogging software programs on both devices in order to view my mobile version on this device.

It doesn't have IR which means I can't use my portable IR keyboard. I know I can use full keyboard, but that's not portable for taking to meetings and/or classes.

Does this have a digital recorder function?

Because it's a PC, I have to wait for windows to boot up to view or use any of my software. Here's a quote from the competition: The essence of this product lies in its groundbreaking multimedia functionality. The instant on AVS Multimedia features allows you to experience movies, photos and music the touch of a button, without starting windows. The 3 button pad combined with 8 way stick is ideal for PC gaming, while the SRS true sound provides a real alternative to traditional MP3 players. That's great if the UX180 allows you to quickly access entertainment, but I usually want to quickly glance appts, passwords, and my calendar.

[DanT]

To make my review easier, start posting your questions here. Hopefully others beat me to the answers, so I don't have to do anything. :p

As you know me, some comparison pictures between TH55 and UX180 will definitely be in the review. July 6 is a long wait though. :(

[bdhu2001]

Quote from DanT: As you know me, some comparison pictures between TH55 and UX180 will definitely be in the review. July 6 is a long wait though.

I'm going to be testing the battery life on my VAIO T250 and see if I can deal with a PC software exchange version instead of a Palm OS. I believe the battery life on the UX180 is less, but with the extended battery, it may work the same. Hopefully, the testing and comparing will keep me satisfied until July.

[intellidryad]

Before we wait for DanT's review, here's some photo of the Vaio "UX50" :D
http://so-mo.net/special/vaio_ux/index.htm
There's even a conparison with the original Clie UX50 :)

[SonyStyle]

judging from those pics, looks like the same height with the ux50 w/extended battery, haha the ux50's screen sucks so much compare to it

[SonyStyle]

its like a brick though heh......but i think i can manage it

[bdhu2001]

I'm testing my T250 while I wait for the reviews on the UX180. I have a question: Does anyone know of a good text completer type application, like textplus for PDAs, that work with Windows software for laptops etc. I've always made macros in word or etc? but on the pda I don't have to do that and I don't have to remember a bunch of macros.

[SonyStyle]

i m going to tokyo this summer in august, i will be able to touch it!!!!!

[dragonsgames]

They will have it out by mid-July ;)

[DanT]

i m going to tokyo this summer in august, i will be able to touch it!!!!!

It would be a lot easier to just open my front door on July 6 and pick up the box. ;)

[bdhu2001]

True for the UX180 but not the UX50 and UX90. It will operate the same but w/o the EDGE card and with a CF slot.

[dragonsgames]

Big deal... ;)

[DanT]

True for the UX180 but not the UX50 and UX90. It will operate the same but w/o the EDGE card and with a CF slot.

I believe it when I see it.

[bdhu2001]

Quote by DanT
I believe it when I see it.

I agree. This experience with the VZ90 has me leary about purchasing a device that isn't marketed in the US. If I get one, it'll be the UX180 same as yours.

[dragonsgames]

The UX will be marketed in the US

[bdhu2001]

True, but so far the UX50 and UX90 will not. Thus, we give up the CF slot in exchange for the EDGE card. Eventually, the Cingular price on Wi-Fi might come down and I'll use the thing.
Sony doesn't show the UX50 and UX90 as options on their support page. What if they do the same thing they did with the VZ90 and send us to the JP site? I doubt it, but at this point, I prefer playing it safe.

[dragonsgames]

They won't. They never said ANYTHING about the VZ90 in the US store, no redirecting. Don't know what you're talking about... :confused:

[bdhu2001]

I'm sorry, I'm making the VZ90 sound like a bad experience and it wasn't. The support for it was a bad experience. I wonder if there are software updates that I should download for the VZ90 for it to read 4GB CF cards, etc.

[bdhu2001]

Quote by DG:
They won't. They never said ANYTHING about the VZ90 in the US store, no redirecting. Don't know what you're talking about..
I used their on-line support and they redirected me to the JP site, but the JP site first question was address and it automatically redirected me back to the US site.

[Pookkie]

Found this on Engadget.
For more click below



http://www.engadget.com/media/2006/05/060517_UX50.jpg

http://handhelds.engadget.com/


Little more info. here: (http://www.digitalworldtokyo.com/2006/05/handson_with_sonys_ux50_handhe.php)

[wellsjs]

Pookkie,

You show great wisdom in aspiring to be a future TH55 Nutcase! :)

Nice looking device. Too bad those kind of babies run about $1500 or so.

[Pookkie]

Some times that's what it takes to be a nutcase.

[Legodude522]

i m going to tokyo this summer in august, i will be able to touch it!!!!!Pick up some Sega Saturns while you are at it. And see what devices they are using in Japan. I was told they all just use cell phones now and ditched PDAs. Look for some Zaurus users for me :o

[winexprt]

What a brick! 2" thick and tiny 4.5" touchscreen? This makes LD looks slim with huge screen. My TH has 4" touchscreen and only 5/8" thick on the thicker end (camera). Back to my good-old TH. ;)

"...Back to my good-old TH."


My thoughts EXACTLY!

My trusty TH55 does just about everything I would ever use this expensive new brick for:

-Light Web surfing when I'm without my laptop

-Playing mp3's

-Emailing on the go.

Do I REALLY need to spend $1800 MORE, to basically do what my marvelous TH55 ALREADY does!!??

Sure, It's one hell of a neat toy...but I dunno about y'all, but I have a lot of other more important uses I could put eighteen HUNDRED smackeroos to.
:( :mad: :D

[winexprt]

I'm getting this!!! :D
(once it is discontinued, of course ;))

HAAA!!

LMAO!!!!!

You know Sony ALL TOO WELL!!
:p :D :D

[DanT]

Sony finally gave us the right and thinner dimension (1.27"-1.5"), which is OK for me now. You're right, 1800 smackeroos is a lot of money. I'll be selling ten of my TH55s to pay off this gizmo. ;)

[DanT]

I'm getting this!!! :D
(once it is discontinued, of course ;))

It'll be a long wait. By then, a better (thinner, faster, bigger screen, longer battery usage, etc.) UMPC shows up to take its place.

[bdhu2001]

Originally Posted by DanT
It'll be a long wait. By then, a better (thinner, faster, bigger screen, longer battery usage, etc.) UMPC shows up to take its place.

True, but Sony doesn't have a lot of room to go in the thinner, bigger screen, longer battery usage department. The T250, 350, and TX 750, already fit that description. Sony labeled them as the premium, ultra-portable personal computer. I got one because I didn't want to lug a big laptop with suitcases, when my job sends me to meetings out of town. Additionally, with all the “we are not responsible for theft” signs in hotels, I didn't want to leave my laptop in my room while I attend the meetings.

They could go to a 7" device, but then it's not as portable as the new UX series and plenty of customers would expect them to add back the CD/DVD drive, which would add to the weight.

Hey, DanT: I just thought of something. How are you going to make your back-up disk when you first start the device? Remember they don't pack those CDs with the VAIO these days, a warning tells you to make one. If you need to get the restore disk from them later, they charge you. For all the money they charge for VAIOs it really ticked me off that they couldn't put a lousy 50 cent CD. Thus, if you didn't purchase writable CDs when you bought you PD or have some at home, you were out of luck. I saved my settings to an external HD, but it turned out that it had to be on CD. Not a problem, I copied the file to a CD when I needed it. How does Sony deal with that little issue on a device that doesn't have a CD drive? I'd be curious. Hopefully it won’t be that you had to buy an external CD drive and copy to CD. Maybe you’ll be able to use your flash or external drive and it won’t go into the must be a CD for recovery issue. OK 98% of the time people won’t ever need the recovery CD before they upgrade to a new machine. But it’s still a possibility and usually you don’t realize it unless you become part of the 2% that need it.

[DanT]

Good point. This is changing time. May be flash or external drive can be used to make the back-up disk. We'll see in 6 weeks.

As far as not getting any bigger screen, thinner, longer battery life, people have been saying these for years and the technology keeps proving them wrong. I can see a 6.3" LCD will fit in that same size 5.91"x3.74"x1.27" UX180P by moving those buttons on the left and right-side of the screen to the 1.27"x3.74" side, leaving 1/4" wide frame around the 3.24"x5.41" screen, just like the TH55 design.

[SonyStyle]

yay get to see some other gizmos at japan haha. i wonder if the ux180 comes with an additional keyboard for typing when its sitting on the dock because thumb typing isnt the fastest way to type heh

[heyted]

To make my review easier, start posting your questions here. Hopefully others beat me to the answers, so I don't have to do anything. :p
:(
Sony says the Vaio UX can function as a PDA (http://www.learningcenter.sony.us/assets/itpd/notebooks/ux_series/ under "entertainment" tab). I am interested to know if it will have instant-on PIM PDA functionality or just instant-on multimedia functionality. Anyone know the answer to this?

[golalmo]

some japanee site has already took the new ux apart :eek:
check here (http://cafe.empas.com/vaiou/photo/photovaio/read.html?asn=163)


http://almogolan.dyndns.org/images/vaioux50_1.jpg

http://almogolan.dyndns.org/images/vaioux50_2.jpg

[DanT]

Just my kind of guy! :D ;)

I'll do the same when my UX180P warranty expired, not before :rolleyes:

[jjesusfreak01]

Hmm, the full set of pics is interesting. It gives a really good view of the whole unit intact, and even shows us what the Vista Capable stickers will look like, seeing as it has one.

[Breizh92]

And what about Europe? We'll never see this astonishing-but-non-very-usefull object?

[Reggie]

Ok, I'm up for bringing back the Sony hanheld spirit and creating a new enthusiast site for the Vaio UX50/180P. Who wants to help? :D

My initial idea is, it'll be blog based with a forums and gallery section.

[DanT]

Me of course for the UX-180P. :D

[SonyStyle]

hey i went to sony's ux jap website and found a cool way to carry it hahaha

http://www.vaio.sony.co.jp/Products/UX1/Photo/Images/thb_04.jpg

[dragonsgames]

ROFL, silly Sony... :rolleyes:

[Reggie]

Here's another pic:

http://www.ecat.sony.co.jp/products/picture/VGP-CKUX1_002.jpg

[DanT]

Wow, one serious looking, heavy-duty, belt case. Here I am thinking of putting the UX180P in my Docker pants side pocket. LOL. I hope they don't mislead us on the dimension. I made a dummy UX180P out of 2"x4"x6" wood piece that seems to fit my pants sde pocket, but none bigger.

[golalmo]

walking with 1.2lbs brick in your pants pocket doesnt seems that comfort... :rolleyes:

[DanT]

I just tighten up my belt. LOL. It's better be a real good brick. We'll see.

[+ANTI+]

review review review

http://www.digitalworldtokyo.com/2006/05/review_sony_vaio_vgnux50_handh.php

[DanT]

Good review. Thanks for posting the link.

[dragonsgames]

I posted the same one in the other forum. Not long after, he posted it. lol ;)

[Breizh92]

Another review from my friend "anyway" Daimou, live from Akihabara:

Here (http://www.akihabaranews.com/en/news-11833-HDTV%3A+Video+of+the+Sony+Vaio+UX50.html)

[DanT]

Thanks for the link. The commentator sounds like a French guy trapped in Tokyo. :D

[psau3]

USD1,800 and it still uses the horrible old telescopic stylus? Wow.

Watch the Akihabara News demo. Nice to see a reviewer with a sense of humour. ;)

[Reggie]

Just in case you haven't seen it, here's the new Vaio UX enthusiast site that I just launched a few days back:

http://www.micropctalk.com/

[DanT]

Cool site. Thanks for the heads-up. I'm a member of it now and have some readings to do to catch up. :)

[Breizh92]

Another vid test from Daimou : here (http://www.akihabaranews.com/en/news-11876-HDTV%3A+Vaio+UX50+vs+UX90.html)

:)

[Legodude522]

Another vid test from Daimou : here (http://www.akihabaranews.com/en/news-11876-HDTV%3A+Vaio+UX50+vs+UX90.html)

:)Most annoying accent ever. The video told me nothing. If I had a UX I would wipe it anyway like any PC I get to remove the preinstalled crap.

[Reggie]

Ok, my UX50 just arrived. Check out the unboxing:

http://www.micropctalk.com/2006/06/07/unboxing-the-sony-vaio-ux50/

[DanT]

Wow, they look cool. I can't wait to get my UX180P.

[Legodude522]

Best UMPC ever!

[gammada]

This thing looks cool on the outside -aside from dimensions and weight- but judging by the reviews listed up in the thread, this is just another case of jack of all trades, master of none Sony-thinking.

Don't get me wrong, I like Sony's attention to detail in general --I'm typing this in a desktop VAIO- but I'm tired of shelling out plenty of money for products that simply do not perform. Styling sells but if it lacks substance, I'd rather go with better focused and more functional brands such as Apple than get myself frustrated with Sony.

A couple of examples to prove my point:

On the PC front, it's truly dissapointing to find that your $2k VAIO PC lacks restore discs or even a proper manual. Even more dissapointing is to find that Sony's multimedia apps just suck everywhere you look at them. SonicStage or ATRAC format anyone? Sony Media Center? for those of us who have tried FrontRow (with the extremely cool but simple 6 button remote), iMovie, iPhoto or even iTunes and the propietary ACC-format over on an Apple, there simply is no comparison --and this is from a pc-only user until about a month ago-.

Let's not talk about the silly DRM that Sony is all too interested in cramming up our collective a***s in each of its products due to his other buz. Anyone here remember scandal of the app that installed itself whenever you played copy-protected Sony cd's into your PC? --Yep, that one which passed undetected from most many AV progs and which was impossible to uninstall without rendering the XP OS useless. It infected almost 500k computers worldwide.

On the camcorder/ digital camera front, just don't plan on having advanced features (such as manual adjustments) on your consumer-level cam. Those are reserved for pro-sumer and pro level in the case of Sony --specially in camcorders-. Canon cams run circles around them here as has been ever since the market started.

True Clies were far superior in many respects than anything in their day but how focused is a UX50 that was sold for $700 when there was 400Mhz processors, 64mb memory-capability or screen rotation at the same time?

As for this UX-reincarnated, what else could you expect when the orginal platform (origami) was drafted by those jerks from Redmond??

Anyway, just my 2 cents.

[bdhu2001]

Hey DanT, I couldn't take the temptation. I ordered my UX180 today. I can't wait to get it !!! Once I realized that it had Ultra sync, I decided that it may be able to replace my various portable devices.

[DanT]

:cool:

Please post your first impression of it when you get it. It won't be long! Two more week to wait, I think.

I SCUBA dive and upload my dive computer logbook to my laptop. Carrying my diving gear and laptop briefcase are quite a chore. Now I can put the UX180P in my dive gear backpack.

If there is a Palm version of this UWATEC dive logbook, then that would be even better, so I can use my TH55 to upload my logbook instead.

[bdhu2001]

I got my e-mail from Sony saying that my package was shipped on 06/28/06. Why do the tease me this way!!! Of course the shipping method states 6-10 business days. The anticipation is crippling. I have two packages coming, because I ordered batteries for my camera (evidently they’re shipping them separately. On the 25th I got an e-mail from Sony for the batteries. The Fed Ex site for the batteries show shipped on the 26th with an estimated delivery date of the 30th. Hopefully, that means the UX180 will be early(show on FedEx site on 07/01/06) and I'll get it Friday the 7th. Unfortunately I'm having it shipped to my job which is closed on Fridays.

[DanT]

I got Sony shipping notice today also. Can't wait any longer. It would be nice to get it before 4th of July. Then I have plenty of time to play with. ;)

[bdhu2001]

OK DanT, I just checked FedEx. It says it's being delivered today. As I mentioned, my job is closed on Fridays so I can't get it. Even if I go down and open up the building, the FedEx guy knows we're closed and wont deliver (he'll skip the address on his route on Fridays). EEEEK! On the bright side, I'm taking everything with me to work on Monday.

[DanT]

I got mine today. Thanks to bdhu2001 for the reminder. The box was sitting in my front door until almost midnight before I found out. LOL. Below is a quick comparison between it and TH55.

http://www.1src.com/gallery/data/500/2949UX180.JPG

[BoxWave]

my brother actually just got one as well -- quite an amazing device (the short of it). i'll let you guys know more when i know more :D.

[DanT]

Another comparison below. BoxWave, do you have a screen protector made for UX-180P, yet?

http://www.1src.com/gallery/data/500/2949NZTHUX.JPG

[BoxWave]

DanT -- I'll check into it today. Our guys are pretty good about jumping on that stuff though.

sweet dog btw.

[Skay]

So, anymore experiences with the UX180P? I'm saving for one now. I've got a PSP, Ipod nano and Palm z22 for sale.

[DanT]

Targus PACMB010U USB 2.0 Slim DVD/CDRW External Drive, eBay Item number: 300005444229 (http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ih=020&item=300005444229&rd=1&sspagename=STRK%3AMEWN%3AIT&rd=1), $52.00 including S&H, works pretty good.

http://images.dealtree.net/store/fullsize/DT_82513_1.jpg

However, it requires 2 USB connections. That reduces the portability because you will need UX180P on docking station to run the DVD/CDRW. The price certainly beats the $400 Sony VGP-DDRW4.

I just use it at home for loading my software installation CD-ROM anyway. I don't plan to carry DVD/CDRW on my travel as UX180P comes with MSDuo slot. My TH55 and DSC-T33 should work fine with the UX-180P.

The only problem I have is to make my dive computer UWATEC SmartCOM to transfer data via IR. I got this $5 USB IrDA, eBay Item number: 140008049858 (http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ih=004&item=140008049858&rd=1&sspagename=STRK%3AMEWN%3AIT&rd=1). It doesn't seem to work with my dive computer. Does anyone know which IrDA works in UX180P?

http://images.andale.com/f2/118/129/14860267/1083647440523_IRDA03.jpg

[Reggie]

I managed to get a Sony DDRW3 before it was continued. SonyStyle was selling them for $99 (unbelievable price!). It's dual-layer dvd writer capable.

More: http://www.micropctalk.com/2006/06/15/the-ilink-portable-dvd-rw-drive/

[DanT]

After trying to no avail with that cheapy USB-IrDA, I bit the bullet, went to Fry's Electronic, spent $20 for SYBA SD-U1IRDA-NM, went home, and installed it to my UX180P. It works like a charm and it is about half the size of that cheapy USB-IrDA! :) :D ;)

Later on I googled it and found newegg.com (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=33-328-201&DEPA=5) sells it for $12 + $5 S&H.

http://images10.newegg.com/NeweggImage/productimage/33-328-201-09.JPG

[DanT]

I managed to get a Sony DDRW3 before it was continued. SonyStyle was selling them for $99 (unbelievable price!). It's dual-layer dvd writer capable.

More: http://www.micropctalk.com/2006/06/15/the-ilink-portable-dvd-rw-drive/

Wow! That is a great deal Reggie!

I checked eBay and found one for $230, Item number: 150008441461 (http://cgi.ebay.com/PCGA-DDRW3-Sony-VAIO-i-Link-Portable-DVD-RW-Drive-DV_W0QQitemZ150008441461QQihZ005QQcategoryZ31564QQssPageNameZWD1VQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem)

If you ever want to sell it, just let me know.

[bdhu2001]

Original Quote from DanT:
After trying to no avail with that cheapy USB-IrDA, I bit the bullet, went to Fry's Electronic, spent $20 for SYBA SD-U1IRDA-NM, went home, and installed it to my UX180P. It works like a charm and it is about half the size of that cheapy USB-IrDA!

Later on I googled it and found newegg.com sells it for $12 + $5 S&H.

What are you using the IR device for? I originally looked at e-bay to purchase one to get my wireless keyboard to work, but then I got a bluetooth keyboard and it was a hassle trying to get the bluetooth keyboard to work. Using an IR keyboard may not use as much power as keeping bluetooth on when I'm out and about, but since the keyboards are for pda devices I'm not sure I'd be able to get a driver to work. The price you found isn't dear so I'm curious.

[DanT]

Original Quote from DanT:

What are you using the IR device for? I originally looked at e-bay to purchase one to get my wireless keyboard to work, but then I got a bluetooth keyboard and it was a hassle trying to get the bluetooth keyboard to work. Using an IR keyboard may not use as much power as keeping bluetooth on when I'm out and about, but since the keyboards are for pda devices I'm not sure I'd be able to get a driver to work. The price you found isn't dear so I'm curious.

I use it for transferring my SCUBA dive logbook data from the UWATEC Smart COM to the UX180P. I don't think a bluetooth option for wireless data transfer from a high-pressure & waterproof device to PC is available, yet. I would love to have such option so I don't have to carry another accessory that may get lost during travelling.

BTW, I regitered my UX180P, but Sony has not sent me any 20% discount coupon, yet. It's been 2 weeks since. :( How do I get one?

The coupon may not be useful, yet, though. I try to order the large capacity battery, VGP-BPL6 (for $350 :rolleyes: ), however, it is out of stock! Did you get yours?

The same thing with the Sony screen protector. It's been 3 weeks since I place the order and none received, so I checked SonySyle.com and it is also out of order. :mad: Finally I gave up waiting and ordered one from my favorite PDA accessories site, GlobalSource PDA (http://www.glblsrc.com/shop/home.php?cat=296). Actually I couldn't find it directly from their site. I had to go through eBay, Item number: 330013198303 (http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ih=014&item=330013198303&rd=1&sspagename=STRK%3AMEWN%3AIT&rd=1), LOL. It's $3 cheaper than the Sony (OEM) version. I'll report how it is when I get it.

[bdhu2001]

Original Quote by DanT
BTW, I regitered my UX180P, but Sony has not sent me any 20% discount coupon, yet. It's been 2 weeks since. How do I get one?

The coupon may not be useful, yet, though. I try to order the large capacity battery, VGP-BPL6 (for $350 :rolleyes, however, it is out of stock! Did you get yours?

The same thing with the Sony screen protector. . .

I got my e-coupon on 7/5/06, but I sent an e-mail asking about it on 7/4/06.

I haven't ordered the extended battery. I'm trying to decide between that and the Power Station or external battery that's mentioned on MicroPCTalk. For Portability, the extended battery would be best. But for the same cost or less, I can get a device that charges all my devices and gives me over 20+ hours of use for my UX180. I'm also thinking about the bluetooth GPS receiver, but I can't find any help on how to use Streets and Trips, and I'm looking at the "Locationfree." Since you can only use the e-coupon once, I want to be sure I've ordered everything I would actually use. The e-coupon gives me 90 days from issuance, so I have a little time to decide.

I got my screen protector from Martin Fields. I've had screen protectors for my pdas that I wasn't happy with, but I always liked Martin Fields so I stuck with them.

[DanT]

Got the screen protector today. That sucker has very tight tolerance to the edge of the screen. Typical screen protectors have may be 1/32" smaller per side so you have a little play on the alignment. This one has zero.

After several attempt of peeling it off and reapplying it, dusts and dog hairs started to land on the screen and glued on the tacky surface of the screen protector. I had to remove it off and wash it off with water, dried it with dust remover spray can, reapplied it on the screen several times before I get it on decently clean. By now one corner was pretty much scratched up from me trying to pry it off with a knife. :(

Hopefully the Sony version is better.

[Romeol]

I'm so jealous. . . If only I had that kind of $ to throw around. . .

[DanT]

Original Quote by DanT


I got my e-coupon on 7/5/06, but I sent an e-mail asking about it on 7/4/06.

I haven't ordered the extended battery. I'm trying to decide between that and the Power Station or external battery that's mentioned on MicroPCTalk. For Portability, the extended battery would be best. But for the same cost or less, I can get a device that charges all my devices and gives me over 20+ hours of use for my UX180. I'm also thinking about the bluetooth GPS receiver, but I can't find any help on how to use Streets and Trips, and I'm looking at the "Locationfree." Since you can only use the e-coupon once, I want to be sure I've ordered everything I would actually use. The e-coupon gives me 90 days from issuance, so I have a little time to decide.

I got my screen protector from Martin Fields. I've had screen protectors for my pdas that I wasn't happy with, but I always liked Martin Fields so I stuck with them.

I finally got the 20% e-coupon and ordered the extended battery and another set of AC charger. The 20% discount pretty much covered the charger cost.

The extra charger will always be in my travel bag. This way I can keep the original charger to stay with the docking station and not worry about forgetting the charger when I'm travelling.

[bdhu2001]

Originally Posted by DanT:
I finally got the 20% e-coupon and ordered the extended battery and another set of AC charger. The 20% discount pretty much covered the charger cost.

The extra charger will always be in my travel bag. This way I can keep the original charger to stay with the docking station and not worry about forgetting the charger when I'm travelling.
That's a great idea. I think I'll get the extended battery also, because you'll only have the 20% off coupon once. After that, it's regular price. I have a 16V AC Adapter from my Sony T250. The input shows the same, but the output shows 16V===4A instead of 16V===2A. I don't think that's damaging, but I guess I need to double check before my order.

[Skay]

So, how about a full review?

[DanT]

Sorry Skay. I'm not good in giving a full review. Someone like Reggie should do a much better job or check out the Micro PC talk (http://www.micropctalk.com/) website.

I got tired of poking on the tiny buttons of this UX180P so finally got the ThinkOutside Stowaway Bluetooth Keyboard (brandnew, sealed in original package, for half listed price in eBay) It is very compact keyboard and what a relief on my eyes and fingers. It works well with the Targus Bluetooth mouse too. :D

No driver needed, just pairing up the Bluetooth :cool:

http://www.1src.com/gallery/data/500/2949BT_KB_M.JPG

[bdhu2001]

I have the same keyboard. Now they have the old keyboard under iGo that has separate number keys, but I had just purchased the Think Outside and can't jusfy the eense of the new one. Some really nice software for text completion is WordLogic. It's awesome and easy to use. I adapted to TextPlus with my PDA and really missed the capacity when I switched to windows.

[DanT]

Did you see the 2-hour special show of 24 (http://www.fox.com/24/) tonight? What Fayed used to decode you know what? It is none other than that cool UX180P. ;)

[DanT]

Hello to UX-180P users. Biometric Fingerprint Sensor makes me forget the password. Help! I'm so used to this Biometric Fingerprint Sensor. After 7 months of using this thing, I completely forget what my password is. How do I retrieve it back? I have posted the same question in micropctalk.com (http://www.micropctalk.com/forums/showthread.php?p=8515#post8515)

[Legodude522]

Hello to UX-180P users. Biometric Fingerprint Sensor makes me forget the password. Help! I'm so used to this Biometric Fingerprint Sensor. After 7 months of using this thing, I completely forget what my password is. How do I retrieve it back? I have posted the same question in micropctalk.com (http://www.micropctalk.com/forums/showthread.php?p=8515#post8515)You mean the password for Windows login? Sorry I know little of the UX. OS? Can you boot into safe mode and login the admin account?

[DanT]

Thanks for the quick reply. Yes. Password for Windows login. I think most new laptops have those Biometric Fingerprint Sensor now. Is there an easier way other than going into safe mode?

I have no problem login using my fingerprint. Just hate to find out that I have a senior moment about this password. I wish I stored it in my TH55. This is one of those things when you are excited about the new toy, do a lot of stuff into it and then you forget what you did to it months later.

How do I get to the safe mode any way?

[smoothjordan]

wow, danT that is a sick set up!!! Getting use out of the old TH anymore???

[bdhu2001]

Only thing I can think of is for you to start from scratch. Since you still have your fingers you can still get in.
MICRO PC talk has an answer now by NBCI:
If you have admin rights when you log with your finger then you can reset the password in the console management.

I forget sometimes too.. usually when i need to log a remote shared folder from my desktop pc
BTW, do you have splash ID or a password program on your TH. If so, put the password in there so that you don't forget after reset. I used the same password that I used on my old laptop so with that and Splash ID, I'm able to remember if push comes to shove.

[DanT]

Thanks for your reply. Yea, it's a good thing my finger print is still recognized by the sensor. However, if this sensor ever fails, then I'll be canoeing up the creek without a paddle.

I don't know where the console management is. I went to control panel/user account and try to change or remove my password, they are all require to enter your current password, which I don't remember.

I tried to use the same password as my old desktop PC when I set it up for the first time, but this dang UX said my old password was too short and asked for 2-3 digits/characters, which now I forgot what they are now.

Yes, I use YAPS and I wish I entered that password to it then.

[bdhu2001]

As the Administrator, you can create another user and give them administrator rights. After you log yourself as a second person with administrator rights, change your original password. After you change the password, delete the new user account . If this doesn’t work, the only other thing I can think of is back-up your programs using Acronis or Ghost, then restore system to original setting. After original restore, you'll need to redo fingerprints and password, but thanks to your Acronis, you can get all the other programs back to where you had them.

[DanT]

As the Administrator, you can create another user and give them administrator rights. After you log yourself as a second person with administrator rights, change your original password. After you change the password, delete the new user account...

:cool:

That's IT! Thank you, thank you, and thank you, bdhu2001! :D :D :D

[bdhu2001]

Original quote from DanT:
That's IT! Thank you, thank you, and thank you, bdhu2001!
Glad to hear it worked.