Easiest Way to Rip DVDs to Clie

[amrcanpoet]

Okay, I've noticed a lot of people asking how to rip their DVDs to their Clie, and a lot of the responses involved multiple programs. In reality, you only need 2, and you already have one of those two!

You need DVDx (which, if you happen to be someone who breaks the law, you can d/l from Kazaa or WinMX). Open it up and rip your DVD to a VCD file format at the smallest screen ratio available.

After you've done that, just open Clie Converter and choose the VCD file. It will convert it (using "Long Mode" for movies, "Standard" for TV shows under 44 minutes) and you'll be up and running with The Matrix on your computer in an hour!

I won't get into the specifics on how to use DVDx, since it comes with a Help menu; but I just wanted to let you all know that you don't need anything else!

The best use of this function I've seen is for the extras on DVDs that I never get time to watch. It's too cumbersome to put an entire movie on there, mostly because you'll never get a chance (save for a plane trip) to watch the whole damn thing! Also, it takes up all of your MS space.

Instead, I put on deleted scenes or documentaries of my favorite movies that I just never get a chance to watch at home. This is great for taking breaks (I watched the extended "Mole" scene from "Goldmember" on break one day instead of making BS conversation with my co-workers!).

If you have any problems with this, just e-mail me! I'm always eager to help out!

[CopyCat]

More people I think are trying to get their .avi or .mpeg(.mpg) movies onto their clie which they have already ripped. Good advice though.

BTW: its not breaking the law. You are allowed to make one backup copy of a DVD that you purchased. (I think, dont quote me but im pretty sure)

[OcellNuri]

I think the illegal part he was talking about was downloading a full version of the program DVDx without registering and paying for the copy. You are correct about copying a DVD you own though. Fair-use.

But then you could say that using software to break the encryption scheme is illegal... but then you could say that that law is illegal because it goes against fair-use... and then you get confused and people yell and it's never fun.

[T1000X]

What I'd love to do is use my DVD-ROM drive and the necessary software to rip movies like Shrek, Monsters Inc., and others so I can play them anywhere on my Clie. It would be awesome to have that ability, because when I go on vacation and go by train it would make the long trek even more enjoyable.

[NXTacy]

Yah, I don't think most people here are actually ripping their own dvds but downloading divx encoding and who knows what else from the internet. If you can rip a dvd you don't have to make any great leaps or increase your skill set by any bounds to get it on a Clie or anything else for that matter.

[Tek Phreak]

I see this question on the boards at least every few days. I plan on making a website that will have instructions on how to do this in the next month. Once i do, i will post it on here and hopefully it will be a place that we can send people that don't know what to do. As a side note, i'm not a big fan of DVDx. I prefer the elongated method using frew programs, it takes 3 programs, but the end result is much better in my opinion. Look for my site in the future!

Enjoi.
-Tek

[T1000X]

I've heard the Clie can natively view some movies without conversion, like MPEGs, and I'd like to know the details. I have DivX encoded videos with MPEG4 video and MPEG3 audio I'd like to get on my Clie. The Image Conversion program doesn't recognize them, and when I tried TMPGenc it just converts it to an even larger file. Any ideas or suggestions on software (ideally freeware) that I can use? Thank you!

[n2ifp]

Tek,

Good idea :)!

[l0keman]

This is awesome! This is what i've been asking all over and noone will answer. I think it's because, like the other guys said, they want to convert their divx collections. I need to start somewhere simple first and I'd rather go to the Class 6 and rent a stack of new releases at 99 cents each and rip away. Than spend 3 hours searching for the movie on Grockster to find I didn't download the new matrix, but 2 hrs of some 90 year old lady shaving her legs. EEEWWWW I hate that!!!
Thanks a lot for the info, I'm off to find a copy of dvdx!

[caipro]

isnt DVDx freeware?

[UI018397]

Am I missing something...
why do people want to watch they DVDs
on a such screen??

[hansschmucker]

DVDx used to be freeware, years ago.
And UI018397, if you're travelling 1hour+ a day to get to work, it's nice to watch a movie on the way

[caipro]

ok i have DVDx v2.2 and it says that it is freeware i got it from
www.labdv.com/dvdx
or do i have the wrong end of a thread?

[l0keman]

Okay I downloaded it too and it is freeware and looks cool. But I don't know what I am looking at and it didn't come with a manual. I need help.

[caipro]

trythis thread.. one of the last posts on the first page ahs a complete run down.. so many other threads on this too.. search the video forum for more help.
http://www.cliesource.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=9035

[caipro]

wow.. bad typing.. sorry.. i need to go to bed.. 2.30am here..

[hansschmucker]

So, it's freeware again? Interesting. I've never seen a freeware app to become commercial and then return to the freeware status.

[l0keman]

Okay I follow all of there directions and got it all installed and when I start to rip a dvd it says a warning about out and imput sizes are diffrent so it will initiate pull down or pullup. I don't know if this is good but I ignore it. Then I get every time at 8.8%
an error that says " Mpeg2Dec: Too much sample. Try another frame rate or change " detect?force 24Hz flag". I tried to change the frame rate and get the same thing. So I tried the flags and I get an error saying it can't detect sound so it will put in blank audio for me. Is this right?

[l0keman]

I'm having some trouble with DVDx. It rips one chapter then stops. I've looked everywhere for a setting to make it continue throughout the entire movie with no luck.

[NXTacy]

There are multiple products with the name DVDx. The one that is really good is not a freeware product and has a licensing scheme that makes the Microsoft XP stuff look gentle. It's pretty much point and click what you want left in and what you want taken out.

[GenoG]

how can you make these movies fit under 128 MB?

[hansschmucker]

Look here ( http://www.cliesource.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&postid=167939#post167939 ) for the MPEG file description (you can go as low as 3h/ MS) or get a MS Pro

[l0keman]

I know I have the right one. It has the skins for the xp look, it's the free ware version 2.2 but it only goes one chapter then stops.

[caipro]

in the output settings box change the "volume dont exceed" to infinite (if not already done) i ignore the pull down error message it seems to make no difference, when i first encoded a full movie i had problems with the pull down/up so i increased the stated size of the movie in the whole box(output settings again) so that the movie looked as tho it would run for another 15mins, DVDx still stopped at the end of the movie tho but i managed to get the whole film
the only way to get a standard movie to fit on the 128mb stick is to convert it in long play mode i have found (1min =1mb roughly in long play) but this is a really small pic

[l0keman]

I already set it to infinite. The more I look at what it is doing the more I think it just converts 10000 frames or something

[caipro]

sorry lost me then.. if you want i can send you a screen shot of what all my settings are send me a PM with your email if you want to try that.

[legion]

OK if there are multiple software packages named DVDx who makes the one we are talking about?

[caipro]

i use the one from www.labdv.com/dvdx

[l0keman]

That's the same one I'm using, and the only one I know of. I would verymuch like screen shots if you will. My e-mail adress is:
L0keman@aol.com

[caipro]

just sent you the screen shots ignore the change in resolution on the output settings i was just messing about with a different setting.. i prefer the 352x240

[NXTacy]

The one I have is made by 321 Studios and doesn't sound/look/operate anything like what you all got from labdv.com

http://www.dvdxcopy.net

You have DVDx Copy. I have DVD X Copy

As you can see on this link here, http://www.timlink.com/dvsoftware.htm, which has d/l links to both of them they are entirely two different products

[caipro]

that is expensive software what are the main differences?

[NXTacy]

They are two totally different products that do two different things

DVD X Copy makes 1:1 DVD copies unless you subtract features you don't want. All in one package that you don't have to open up something else to burn to dvd with.

DVDx Copy is more of a DVD ripper allowing you to rip VOBs/Scenes/Chapters to disk

The biggest difference in DVD X is copying and keeping original menus and special features. Not important if you just want to make mpegs for a clie but a biggie if you are copying to dvd-r/+r/+rw. You can get the full feature set here http://www.dvdxcopy.net/products_dxc.htm Click on the compare section and see how it stacks up to others.

DVD X is a commercially available product that has gotten reviews by places like PC Magazine and can be picked up at places like CompUSA

Their product that makes mpegs for vcd is DVD Copy Plus. It also is an all in one package no opening up nero or something else later to burn the (s)vcd.

If all you want to do is make mpegs for your clie or (s)vcds you'll be fine using the free dvdx (providing it works for you)

[aml311]

I JUST GOT INTO THE DVD RIPPING ARENA... THIS IS THE WAY I DID IT AND WORKS VERY WELL... I HAVE A 135 MIN MOVIE COMPRESSED INTO A 75 MB FILE, THAT I CAN CARRY IN MY 128MB MEMORY STICK.

I FIRST RIP THE DVD WITH "SMARTRIPPER"
http://www.afterdawn.com/software/video_software/dvd_rippers/smartripper.cfm

THEN, I USED ANOTHER PROGRAM TO CHANGE THE VOB FILES INTO A D2V PROJECT FILE... THE PROGRAM IS DVD2AVI:
http://www.afterdawn.com/software/video_software/dvd_rippers/dvd2avi.cfm

THEN, I USE "TMPGEnc" TO ENCODE THE D2V PROJECT FILE INTO A MPEG FILE.
http://www.afterdawn.com/software/video_software/video_tools/tmpgenc.cfm

FINALLY, I USE SONY'S IMAGE CONVERTER TO TRANSFORM THE MPEG FILE INTO A MQV FILE.

IT WAS VERY HELPFUL FOR ME TO READ THE FOLLOWING ARTICLE:
http://www.afterdawn.com/articles/archive/dvd2vcd_with_smart_dvd2avi_tmpgenc.cfm

[(oyo)]

I take floor plan with me when I visit the construction site. Don't have to carry all of the blueprints with me. Very cool...

[(oyo)]

Sorry, wrong forum...

[l0keman]

aml311,

How long does this process take you?

You might want to look into using DVDx. I used to use the programs you used and it to forever and a day. With DVDx it's takes 2.5 hours from start to finsh with my 800 Mhz laptop. It took me 15 hrs using those on the same computer.

[aml311]

LOKEMAN,

It took me about 1.5 hours to go through the whole process (I have a 2 Ghz P-M). I did try to use DVDx and it took less time, but did not like the end result as much and could not tweak the audio and video as much as I wanted to.

[l0keman]

caipro,
I used your settings and it works better. I got 56 minutes of Joe Dirt, then it stopped. Right at the part where the janitor is in the hall talking like a gansta : ) But I can't for the life of me rip a whole movie all the way through. Does anyone else have this problem?

[l0keman]

caipro,

Okay, I think this is getting a little clear to me. In the pics you sent in the outgoing menu you have 81105 for the max frame. So I set it to that also and it gets to that max frame and stops converting. How do I know what to set this number to? I guess I have to set it for each movie then?

[Tek Phreak]

make sure you click the "whole" button next to the max fram rate in order to do the whole movie.

amleet - 75mb file? I assume that's in long play mode, how can you stand to watch a movie in that format. Mine have to at least be in standard movie which means i then have to split the files up between 2 MS'.

Enjoi.
-Tek

[l0keman]

Okay I've been ripping for a couple of dys now and amm getting some good quality movie files and they ARE the whole file. The ONLY problem I can complane about is the offset of the sound and video. I set the option for sync sound and video. Is this something that just can't be helped?

[caipro]

that is a tricky one..i have never had this problem ,does this happen with everything? it would really bug me.. so i can see your point..

[AndyJapan]

Folks,

have a look at
http://www.digital-digest.com/dvd/downloads/ripping.html

Quite useful website and great downloads of all kind of tools needed for ripping a DVD.


Andy
Tokyo, Japan

[l0keman]

Yup unfortuneately. It's of by one second proir. I mean you hear the sound one voices one second befor the lips move. I deal with it, but I would definately prefer to get rid of this problem if I could.

AndyJapan thanks for the suggest, but as far as I am concerned, DVDx is all I need for ripping. Anything else is just too complicated. I stick to the extreme basics and hardly know what I'm looking at already.

[TheSpies]

aml311: I do it almost the same way you do (except the settings in TMPGEnc and DVD2AVI if you follow that guide (to much not needed)). The only other difference is i use HeadAC3he to convert the AC3 sound first. Takes about an hour and a half for the average movie on my 1 gig p3

[caipro]

i did a little bit of looking round and it seems like that is a common complaint... what is suggested is making sure that detect and force 24htz are both checked.(input settings). the only other solution i came accross was decoding out out sync (doind the video and audio files separatly) then using virtualdub to resync as you can manually set + or - audio sync, but this all depends i suppose on if it is a big problem and if it happens on every DVD you encode, but i know where you are coming from on the diffuculty thing.. it took me so long to work DVDx out.. i just cant face trying another program LOL.. im with the stupid club :)

[l0keman]

I'm not only a member, I'm the president. :0 )

[caipro]

ooh.. only 10 more posts til i become *senior*.. but it scares me

[pharmnatr]

I'm ripping my first DVD right now. After it's finished, I assume I use MS Import to store it on my mem stick. After that will it play in movie recorder or kinoma or flash player?:confused:

[TheSpies]

after you get it to mpeg1 format you can use image converter to convert it to .mqv that will play with the built in movie player.

[pharmnatr]

I just finished ripping eddie and the cruisers from dvd. After using image converter, I'm ready to downlaod to my 128mg mem stick. I am getting a message that the file is too large for the mem stick, so I'm downloading whatever fits this time. How large is a 90 minute movie. I reformatted my mem stick so its empty. Did I miss a setting in DVDX to format the movie at a particluar size?

Thanx All,
Al

[TheSpies]

you can set the quality options in image converter to get a smaller file size at the loss of quality.

did that make sense? ah well, im tired.

[pharmnatr]

It does, I'll try it tonight. I ran image converter last night and this am I have 32 minutes of my movie loaded before my mem stick filled up.
thanx again

[l0keman]

It will slit the file into as 121Mb files. So if the file is 925Mb, it will compress it into about half of that size and break them up I just save to C: drive and it creates the MQRROOT folders then you can see the size. This allows you to drag and drop movies and you never lose it even if you erase your stick. Also you can open the files on your computer and wath them there. Just right click on it and select open with quick time.

[Hrun]

Originally posted by aml311

I FIRST RIP THE DVD WITH "SMARTRIPPER"

THEN, I USED ANOTHER PROGRAM TO CHANGE THE VOB FILES INTO A D2V PROJECT FILE... THE PROGRAM IS DVD2AVI:

THEN, I USE "TMPGEnc" TO ENCODE THE D2V PROJECT FILE INTO A MPEG FILE.


FINALLY, I USE SONY'S IMAGE CONVERTER TO TRANSFORM THE MPEG FILE INTO A MQV FILE.

IT WAS VERY HELPFUL FOR ME TO READ THE FOLLOWING ARTICLE:


Thanks, this worked for me up to a point.
I now have an MQV file of 60MB. In order to watch it on my TJ35 I need to convert it through Kinoma Producer and this gives me a file of 150-190MB, to big for my memory stick.

Thing is a file of the same size from ncoday converts to 102MB and I cannot see what I have done wrong?

Hope someone can help

Giles