PalmPDF 1.2 and 2PlayMe 3.0

[MetaView]

Both are update. See http://www.metaviewsoft.de

[hotmar]

Great news, MetaView!!!! :D


These 2 programs are fantastic!


2PlayMe has been my favourite alarm clock, and PalmPDF is an amazing software that can view pdf files in the Palm. :)


Congratulations for your job!

[bh77a]

Great work Henk!!!

[SoS]

Nice job Henk, works great on my LD.

Are there any skins available yet??

[Telyx]

On my Zodiac, after installing PalmPDF 1.2 to RAM and then using the To Card option to move what it usually does to the card, I'm left with a file bigger than 500k in RAM. Previous versions had this down to around 71k, if I remember right. Not a big deal--I moved the 500+k file to my card and created a shortcut to it in RAM using LauncherX--I just wondered if this was the normal size of the file left in RAM after using To Card.

...I just noticed a Strip PRC item in Options. Maybe I should try that after the To Card option? (But the shortcut I made is only 5k...)

[MetaView]

The "strip PRC will" remove the fonts from the PRC. The fonts are not removed automatically with this new update to make it easier to use multiple card with PalmPDF and to always have the full PRC to send it to the one next to you ;-)

At the end you will have again around 100KB in RAM. If you don't need the receive functionality for PDF files, you can move the whole stuff to memory card and don't need any shortcut etc. PalmPDF isn't syncing with the desktop, therefore the shortcut isn't necessary. It runs just fine from the card. To move the renderer and then the remaining PRC to the card is a bit overkill :-)

Sos: the "skin maker" (download from the PalmPDF site) includes an example skin.


Regards
Henk

[SoS]

Sos: the "skin maker" (download from the PalmPDF site) includes an example skin.


Regards
Henk


Thansk Henk..Ill take a look!

Steve

[Telyx]

The "strip PRC will" remove the fonts from the PRC. The fonts are not removed automatically with this new update to make it easier to use multiple card with PalmPDF and to always have the full PRC to send it to the one next to you ;-)

At the end you will have again around 100KB in RAM. If you don't need the receive functionality for PDF files, you can move the whole stuff to memory card and don't need any shortcut etc. PalmPDF isn't syncing with the desktop, therefore the shortcut isn't necessary. It runs just fine from the card. To move the renderer and then the remaining PRC to the card is a bit overkill :-)

Sos: the "skin maker" (download from the PalmPDF site) includes an example skin.


Regards
Henk

Ah. Thank you. I'll reinstall, then strip the .prc, move what's left to the card, then create a shortcut :D

[cyberdude]

The "strip PRC will" remove the fonts from the PRC. The fonts are not removed automatically with this new update to make it easier to use multiple card with PalmPDF and to always have the full PRC to send it to the one next to you ;-)

At the end you will have again around 100KB in RAM. If you don't need the receive functionality for PDF files, you can move the whole stuff to memory card and don't need any shortcut etc. PalmPDF isn't syncing with the desktop, therefore the shortcut isn't necessary. It runs just fine from the card. To move the renderer and then the remaining PRC to the card is a bit overkill :-)

Sos: the "skin maker" (download from the PalmPDF site) includes an example skin.


Regards
Henk
What do you mean the font are removed? Does this effect the quality of the rendered image?

[_Em]

He means that after the fonts are installed on your SD card, you can remove them from the original PRC to save filespace.

[MetaView]

Strip PRC: The PalmPDF.prc does also include the Fonts. They are there to make the installation of PalmPDF easier and copied to the memory card when PalmPDF doesn't find them on the memory card. Once copied to the memory card they could be removed from the PalmPDF.prc. In former versions, PalmPDF did remove the fonts automatically during first run. Version 1.2 doesn't do it anymore, but wait for the user to call "Strip PRC". The fonts still need to be on the memory card, regardless if you copy it on your own or use PalmPDF.prc to do it auomatically. The quality of the rendered image isn't affected at all, PalmPDF refuses to work, when it doesn't find the fonts.

Edit: _Em, exactly, that's what I wanted to say :-)

[yitzle]

PalmPDF
Either stripping the PRC or removing fonts renders the prc file 'corrupt' in the sense that you can't copy it to a card or back it up.
Periodically, PalmPDF will disappear from my RAM and I can't restore from backup so I need to keep the whole prc on card...

[SoS]

PalmPDF
Either stripping the PRC or removing fonts renders the prc file 'corrupt' in the sense that you can't copy it to a card or back it up.
Periodically, PalmPDF will disappear from my RAM and I can't restore from backup so I need to keep the whole prc on card...


You will get much more useful feedback here if you let us know what device and what version you are using! A little info goes a long way...

btw, a belated welcome to 1Src :)

[yitzle]

Sorry about that.
T|E2
Ver PalmPDF 1.2 (first release of 1.2, not the updated version)

[SoS]

Sorry about that.
T|E2
Ver PalmPDF 1.2 (first release of 1.2, not the updated version)

maybe try the updated 1.2!! Other than that, difficult to say. It seems fine on my LD. Henk may have some ideas...

[yitzle]

Yeah... The updated version works great. Thanks.

[DennisOS2]

Both are update. See http://www.metaviewsoft.de

Really like PalmPDF ....... amazing Adobe couldn't get it right. One thing though, where is the exit or close command?

[yitzle]

You see an 'X' in the bottom left corner?

[DennisOS2]

You see an 'X' in the bottom left corner?

That's to exit the PDF and return to the main screen. Once in the main screen how do you exit the application?

[MetaView]

The normal launcher icon should do it. Can't you see it? What's your device?

[DennisOS2]

The normal launcher icon should do it. Can't you see it? What's your device?

Don't quite know what you mean by 'launcher' icon. In the PalmPDF screen where PDFs are chosen to open, there is no icon or menu item that closes the application. This is on both by NX80 and my T650.

On the NX80 I have to use the back button to close PAlmPDF. Not so much a problem on the T650 as I just use the home button.

[MetaView]

launcher icon -> home button, that's what I mean. Is quite common for Palm OS apps not to provide a special exit button. The launcher button quits the application. In PalmPDF it breaks the rule a bit and first goes back to the file selection screen.

[DennisOS2]

launcher icon -> home button, that's what I mean. Is quite common for Palm OS apps not to provide a special exit button. The launcher button quits the application. In PalmPDF it breaks the rule a bit and first goes back to the file selection screen.

When running full screen on the NX60 or 80 there isn't a home button, as the virtual grafitti area isn't showing. I haven't found a way to bring the grafitti area up while in PalmPDF. So, I've gone to using the back button on both units. Again, not a problem on the T650. Not a big deal, just something worth considering in the event under these conditions someone's back button isn't functional.

[MetaView]

Ah, ok, I don't have a Sony device here, and therefore can't really test the DIA issues on this devices. I will add an exit menu item in the next update.

[yitzle]

Wowa. Weird. I thought 99% of apps don't have an exit button...

[MetaView]

Wowa. Weird. I thought 99% of apps don't have an exit button...
Correct, fixing the DIA issue on Sony devices would be the better approach, but adding an exit menu item is faster ;-)

[DennisOS2]

Correct, fixing the DIA issue on Sony devices would be the better approach, but adding an exit menu item is faster ;-)
Again, not a big deal. Could be problematic in a very few cases where the DIA/button issue comes into play. Thanks for a great application!

[plaid]

I see that PalmPDF is now included in the Mobi-systems Office Suite, selecting a pdf in the mobi-systems office file browser opens in PalmPDF. Great integration there!

[MetaView]

Yes, it works well, or?

[plaid]

seems to be working very well!

[codeman12]

Dear MetaView, yesterday I installed PalmPDF 1.2 on my Treo 650. It's very nice, but there are a few things I don't understand.

When I use the PalmDOC selection in the menu to convert a pdf to text
and then open it in quickword (which is where it seems to be saved), the document only contains a tiny empty rectangle for each page. From goonie's reply in your upgrade suggestion forum, I'm wondering if this doesn't work with QuickWord & that I need eReader or PalmFiction.

Is there a way to switch the Treo 650 to landscape before opening the
pdf, as you suggest?

I do not understand how to access or use the Scratch Pad or Personal
Bookmarks. When I entered something in the Scratchbook screen, I couldn't find it again. Also, I do not understand what the "Text" and "Memo" buttons do on the Scratchbook screen. Every time I click the "Memo" button there, my Treo hard resets. Also, how do you enter a Bookmark in a particular spot in the pdf document?

Finally, what does that little icon with the crossing double direction arrows at the bottom of the page of a pdf document window do? Sometimes when I click it, I get a message that it's not supported yet.

Sorry for all the questions, but I could not find this info in your Tips. If there's somewhere that gives this type of info, please let me know.

Any information you can supply on these issues will be greatly
appreciated. Many thanks for making this very useful application available!

[MetaView]

It seems to me, your document doesn't has text. The text you can see might be included as graphics, like a scan of a page.

About the Scratchpad: When you enter something it should stay there and be connected to your actual document. When you use the mark-function to mark some text and add it to the Scratchpad, it might be that your PDF doesn't include any text. Please try the PalmPDF_Readme.pdf file. "Text" should export the content of the Scratchpad to the card, "Memo" should do the same to the notepad application. There might be a problem when the Scratchpad is empty. Btw: Are you sure it hard resets? Do you know what the meaning of hard reset is?

About the bookmark: mark it, tap bookmark and there should be a bookmark with the text copied from the marked spot. When there is no text, then the bookmark will prbably be created, but the title will be empty. You can examine the list of custom bookmarks when you open the info window and press the "Bookmarks"-button.

crossing double direction buttons? move the page with your stylus
black lines in the upper left corner? mark the content-> copy to device, scratchpad or custom bookmark
dotted square? not implemented yet, will be the selecting zoom function

Regards
Henk

[Aces]

I recently started having a problem using PalmPDF. I was using version 1.0rc2, and hadn't used it in a while. When it acted up, I installed version 1.2, and the problem is still there. I can open the application but when I pick a file & select "Show", I get "PNOLoader.c, Line:261, Wrong size of PNO." and I have to reset the device.

I assumed it was a problem with too little memory available. But I have freed up enough memory that internal has 2.4Mb of free program memory; 6.5Mb of free system memory; & 170Mb free on the card where these documents reside. I have a TH-55.

If anyone has experienced this, I'd welcome any ideas. BTW, the most recent applications I've added are: Data Import driver (for XP); ArtelopeV; Powerclip & Mobile DB.

[MetaView]

Please try to remove PalmPDF and reinstall it. I don't know if it helps. You could also try to redownload it from my website.

[MetaView]

BTW: The Treo 650 has no landscape. It's 320 pixels in any direction.

[goonie]

Codeman12--

In addition to MetaView's response, if in fact you DO have text in your pdf (as opposed to a scanned image), I don't think quickword will open it. Regrettably, there is a *.DOC file format that has absolutely nothing to do with Microsoft Word, and therefore, quickword or Documents to Go (Word to Go) will not be able to read this. You will need the free ereader:

http://www.ereader.com/product/browse/software

or, the even better Palm Fiction

http://www.freewarepalm.com/docs/palmfiction.shtml

to view THIS kind of DOC file. Hope this helps.

[cyberdude]

Codeman12--

In addition to MetaView's response, if in fact you DO have text in your pdf (as opposed to a scanned image), I don't think quickword will open it. Regrettably, there is a *.DOC file format that has absolutely nothing to do with Microsoft Word, and therefore, quickword or Documents to Go (Word to Go) will not be able to read this. You will need the free ereader:

http://www.ereader.com/product/browse/software

or, the even better Palm Fiction

http://www.freewarepalm.com/docs/palmfiction.shtml

to view THIS kind of DOC file. Hope this helps.
I know when I do the conversion it automatically opens in ereader pro.

[rickster]

Hello one and all!

I have a Zire 72s with an 1GB SD card. Following Metaview's idea I did App->Delete and then reinstalled PalmPDF (v.1.5 "Halloween"): following the To Card and Strip PRC options, FileZ showed I had 2.4 m internal, 615 m external memory, while PalmPDF itself reported 4990/4945 KB.

I set general options Zoom: 65%, Mode: gray, + Anti-Aliasing, PDoc: None, On RX: File list, + Return to previous app, Scroll values: Horz: 8px, Vert: height/4...no hardware buttons set...skin default...

I select a small PDF from the card subdirectory, about 2 pages worth, and tap Show.

I see a purple and black message "Copying Resource--please wait" then I see that Fatal Alert message "PNOLoader.c,Line:261,Wrong size of PNO.

So,...any ideas about what to do next?

Regards, rickster

[Gwidion]

Hello one and all!

I have a Zire 72s with an 1GB SD card. Following Metaview's idea I did App->Delete and then reinstalled PalmPDF (v.1.5 "Halloween"): following the To Card and Strip PRC options, FileZ showed I had 2.4 m internal, 615 m external memory, while PalmPDF itself reported 4990/4945 KB.

I set general options Zoom: 65%, Mode: gray, + Anti-Aliasing, PDoc: None, On RX: File list, + Return to previous app, Scroll values: Horz: 8px, Vert: height/4...no hardware buttons set...skin default...

I select a small PDF from the card subdirectory, about 2 pages worth, and tap Show.

I see a purple and black message "Copying Resource--please wait" then I see that Fatal Alert message "PNOLoader.c,Line:261,Wrong size of PNO.

So,...any ideas about what to do next?

Regards, rickster
Delete the palmPDF Folder on your Card. then copy the files of the palmpdf 1.5 into a new palmpdf folder.
Copy palmpdf application to ram and try it again.
The mem message of palmpdf means your free memory (not dbcache or cardsize)

[rickster]

Hello Gwidion:

I tried your suggestion but got exactly the same "Fatal Error" message...

While poking about in internal RAM with FileZ I found a file called PalmPDF_ARMC (type: ARMC, creator: PPDF). But this file varies in size every time I reinstall PalmPDF...384k, 896k, 704k, and now 640k (640k? Could we blame Bill Gates?), and the main file is 163k. I've looked at the ARMC file with RsrcEdit and it seems to be code, but not having any skill with reverse-engineering, I haven't a clue what it does.

Still mystified,
rickster

[Gwidion]

I haven't a clue what it does.

Still mystified,
rickster
Hello rickster,
I can't help you, so I suggest you contact metaview himself, he's the developer of PalmPDF and a smart guy.

[MetaView]

Try without "To Card". Maybe there is a problem with copying the Armlet to the SD-card on your device. How do you install PalmPDF? Using hotsync? Try to copy it with a card reader to your SD-card, folder: /PALM/Launcher/.

[zhangsan]

Dear Henk,
Thanks your great job. It's only true pdf reader for palm(not like adobe pdf reader for palm or pdf to go, lack of fonts or formats), showing all fonts and formats of pdf docs correctly. I'm using PalmPDF 1.5 on treo centro now. Is it possible to add some extra functions, please?
1. PalmPDF copies the fonts to memory card, does it have option to copy to internal memory? Will the last option increase the speed of pdf loading time?
2. When I select the MARK instead of MOVE, it appears a list of COPY TO DEVICE, ADD TO SCRATCHPAD and CREATE BOOKMARK(3 items). Is it possible add HIGHLIGHT and UNHIGHLIGHT two items additionaly to that list(now with 5 items), please? When the HIGHLIGHT item is selected, the user can select the COLOR(Yellow, Fuchsia, Red, Maroon, Purple, Blue, Navy, ...) to highlight the marked pdf text; the UNHIGHLIGHT item is used to erase the highlighted color from the marked text. I think this is one of the most wanted functions for me to review or study the pdf docs. Just like Highlight Marker for paper book.
Thanks for your attention!