Pielframa case for NZ90 coming!!!

[kongg]

Here u go............

Dear Bernard,

It is a pleasure to contact you again to inform you that we
have already made the first sample case for the Sony Clié NZ90.
If you want and you are still interested in getting this case, you can
already place the order for this case from our website.
The delivery time is about 20 days, since we are now making the first
cases for this model.
I´m sure that you will like a lot the quality of our leather cases.

Please you can see these cases from our web site:
http://www.pielframa.com/sony_NZ90_with_clip.htm

Please email us if you have any question.

Looking forward to hearing from you.

Rubén Montero
Export Manager
Http://www.pielframa.com

[BaconGrease]

That is a nice case.
Should be perfect for the belt clip crowd.

[zack777]

At last, something w/ a belt clip...
Thanks for the heads-up kongg.
Exactly what i've been looking for! Had been using a Krussel w/ my T665 last time so needed something similar.
It's actually listed on the site there's a 30 days delivery time, major bummer.
Wonder whether i should wait for what Vaja has in store...

[EvilErnie]

The case looks great. I think the 30 days delivery time is just in case you live on Mt Everest, But if you stay in a major city then it should be much shorter.

[oneeyesquare]

Not too bad!

[rhart00]

Originally posted by EvilErnie
The case looks great. I think the 30 days delivery time is just in case you live on Mt Everest, But if you stay in a major city then it should be much shorter.

doubt thats the case. my vaja case took that long for delivery because it is handmade. could be the same situation with this case

[EvilErnie]

We will see how long it will take. I just ordered one. Soon i hope.

[George M]

Kongg,
When you get the case email Francisco or ruben back and ask them to make the case more narrow. PF ALWAYS maked them WIDER than the pda itself. Take a good look at the pics and you will see what I mean. Their cases are excellent, they use to make custom cases for my silver slider www.silverslider2.com and this is my only dislike about their cases. With it being wider than the pda it makes hoding the pda BUUULKY.

Vaja on the other hand makes them either the same size as the pda or even more narrow (which I prefer). If PF would do the same they would have a much better case.

Francisco if you are reading this I urge you to make them more narrow and they will sell much better believe me.

[YTTAN]

kongg
Do you have that case yet? How do you find the quality?

[kongg]

Yttan, I got the Pdair case. Had to modify to add in a belt clip. So far so good.

[YTTAN]

ok good for you.
I still wandering around to get one.
May considered to get from pielframa.

[knowledge]

2 weeks and still no vaja. The piel frama case looks better each day.

[cretan]

I ordered the black NZ90 case from Piel Frama, I had one from Bellagio for my NX70 before upgrading to NZ90 hope I like it as much as the bellagio

Any thoughts?

[EvilErnie]

I ordered mine from Peil Farma 10 days ago. i just emailed them yesterday and they replied that it would only ship in 15 days time.
Its going to take too long to come. I hope its worth the wait.

[markga]

just ordered one myself, I like the look of it, and the belt clip, I need that because my pockets are already full of other stuff. Was a bit dismayed when the email came back in spanish, but my translator program solved that little mystery. I'm looking forward to it, now I can take it to school to work with my stuff there. We science teachers do love our gadgets!

[Matai]

I am very much looking forward to being the very first person in the world to own the PF NZ90 case!! Yeeha!! Can't wait!! ;)

[Unregistered]

I just received the case today! Everything looks great, except that the bottom holder part creates a slight gap between the screen and the rest of the Clie. I noticed that the screen bends up just slightly. I am hoping that this will not hurt the swivel connection. Otherwise, the case looks great!

[teastain]

Excuse me but are you people all software guys?

*****A MAGNET?!?! near my CF slot?!?!***********
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[TriPLeX]

Teastain has a good point, won't the magnet interfere with a CF card in the CF bay???

[Drachen]

Magnetic closure + Microdrive = fun. :D Seriously, though I don't think you guys have much to worry about, with the flash memory-based storage cards OR the Microdrive. Most cards have some minimal electrical and magnetic shielding built into the design of the card, plus the card is inside inside the metal frame of the device itself. We're not exactly talking about an industrial high-voltage electromagnet here... :)

I've had a Piel Frama case for my old Casio PPC for over a year and for the most part, I loved it. It was well-made and looked great. I won't get another Piel case for my PDA because I don't like detachable belt clips. The PDA hangs too low and tends to try to push itself up out of the clip when I sit down. Once while sitting down a little too hard on a chair, I managed to catch the PDA on the arm and actually snap the belt clip apart! Luckily, with a little effort, I was able to get it back together. What I ended up doing was either taking the PDA off or swiveling the PDA in the same direction as my leg to sit. I use a holster-style case now and I don't even have to think about the damn thing anymore.

[Unregistered]

however, I noticed that after leaving it in the case overnight, the NZ90 would not power on. Furthermore, after charging it for a few minutes, I noticed that it would turn on, but the battery was completely drained. I hope that Piel Frama will honor my request for a refund or an exchange of a case that does not have the magnetic closure. They seem like a really decent, family owned company, so I sure would hate to see them get bad publicity. I will let you all know if they respond back to me on how they plan on handling this issue. I would recommend that everyone who has purchased this product to contact the company and request an exchange or a RMA # to return and get their money back.

[greg elmassian]

it seems unlikely your nz was drained because you have a magnet near your cf slot... even if it trashed your microdrive, that would have no relation to battery drain... sounds like you had the system turn on and not off for some reason, like an alarm that went off... even then, hard to drain the battery completel with a flashing led...

I think it has no relation to your case.

Greg

[TroyMIman]

I am new here I have been reading all the news on the Pielframa case. I ordered a black one with case 5 days ago and they shipped it out monday express. It should be here tomorrow. i will let you all know what its like!

[Unregistered]

I hear what you are saying, however I have never experienced this problem before with my NZ90. Also, I am not aware of the Palm devices staying on after alarms. I used to have a PPC, which can easily stay on because you can change the power options to allow it to stay on always. I sincerely hope you are correct that the case did not cause my power to drain over night, because I really like the case and would prefer not to return it. If someone else can tell me that the strong magnetic strip on the inside of the case has no possible way of depleting the battery, erasing the MS card or CF card, then I will try it one more time before returning. Also, I will change my opinion on my previous post. I am too worried about leaving it overnight again for fear of it completely messing up my unit. Please let me know your thoughts.

[greg elmassian]

Well, let me try a bit of "credibility check" first. I am an engineer, have been working with palms, pc's custom hand helds since they were invented (before the newton)... I have managed several pda projects and designed devices with strongarm's and xscales for several years. (first 206 MHz strongarm design 4 years ago)...

Magnetism cannot affect anything in your pda except possibly for the microdrive, since that is the only device that USES magnetism in your PDA (other than the speaker, which has a magnet much stronger than your magnetic catch)....

Flash memory is a cmos device which stores electric charge, not magnetic flux. (I have a degree in physics as well as computer science and minored in electrical engineering)....

My guess is there was something that happened that kept your pda on... is it possible that a button was depressed? unlikely, but possible... I have had Palms since the first one was built... I have had hacks and other software that made the PDA come on and stay on... there were versions of Palm that would always turn on at midnight (to update alarms), and software that interfered with the auto off function...

you can set the os internally to never turn off also, there are several utilities...

I'd look to see if it happens again... (back up your system)... if it happens again, hard reset, then see if it happens again...

hard to believe a case could do this... never heard of it in all my pda years unless it "caught" on a button

Regards,

Greg

p.s. please do not interpret the "bio" as bragging, just wanted to dispense with the "do you really know what you are talking about" bit...

[MAJI]

Originally posted by kongg
Here u go............


The delivery time is about 20 days, since we are now making the first cases for this model.

Please you can see these cases from our web site:
http://www.pielframa.com/sony_NZ90_with_clip.htm



How much is this case in US dollars? Also is the delivery time still 20 days?

[Unregistered]

Okay, that last response has made me think about it again. I tried setting an alarm this evening, I left my sony in the pda position as I did last night, and let the alarm to go off like it should three times. Every time it turned off after 2 minutes as I set it up. It reminded me three times, and never stayed on after that. I am not using a hack or a utility on my PDA, and the device works perfectly. I am willing to try it again just to give the case and the company credit back if I am completely wrong. Everything you said earlier makes me believe that the magnet did not cause the problem. Maybe the bottom leather holster got caught on the power button or maybe it pushed the battery compartment down. So, you are saying the the inside part of the leather magnet connector should not mess up my battery or memory card (or internal memory for that matter) if I leave it the case on tonight? I was wondering how strong the magnet was on the inside, and it was strong enough to hold a metal paper clip against the leather on both the inside and outside. I guess I am being anal, but I really do not want to mess up my Clie. I have had bad luck with the Pocket PCs since they are not reliable in terms of function and syncing, and this Sony is perfect in all respects. Besides, I really like this case and would like to keep it.

[markga]

MAJI - the case is just over $66 US. And when I ordered mine they said delivery time would be about 13 days.

[Unregistered]

Okay, I used the case last night again and woke up to find that the battery did not deplete one percent! I am not sure what happened the previous night, however I can relay that the magnet did not cause the problem. I plan on keeping this great case and also want to give credit back to Piel Frama for creating a wonderful case that works as promised. Thanks, Greg for clearing up my concerns!

[MAJI]

Originally posted by markga
MAJI - the case is just over $66 US. And when I ordered mine they said delivery time would be about 13 days.

Post when U get it!

Thanks

[markga]

MAJI - orderd it on the 26th, received it today! Couldn't believe, I didn't expect until next week, and their web site now says three days delivery! And btw, I love the case!!!

[Empire Devil]

Has anyone had any problems with the PF cases/magnetic closure and credit cards? I am desperate for a case that can protect my NZ 90 and yet can hold my credit cards.

[±CyborG±]

Just received from PF. Great product (as usual!). No problem with magnetic enclosure (battery and CF installed).
Good job

[Unregistered]

Can any of you guys please post some pictures with the nz in the case and in several angles, please.

Thanks.

[Unregistered]

I am wondering if the powerful magnetic clip has any effect on the small button battery (back up battery) underneath the magnetic clip.

[markga]

Unregistered - 1. Please register, it isn't painful. 2. It has no effect at all on the batteries, the memory sticks, or the CF card

[loucifer]

Originally posted by Unregistered
Okay, that last response has made me think about it again. I tried setting an alarm this evening, I left my sony in the pda position as I did last night, and let the alarm to go off like it should three times. Every time it turned off after 2 minutes as I set it up. It reminded me three times, and never stayed on after that. I am not using a hack or a utility on my PDA, and the device works perfectly. I am willing to try it again just to give the case and the company credit back if I am completely wrong. Everything you said earlier makes me believe that the magnet did not cause the problem. Maybe the bottom leather holster got caught on the power button or maybe it pushed the battery compartment down. So, you are saying the the inside part of the leather magnet connector should not mess up my battery or memory card (or internal memory for that matter) if I leave it the case on tonight? I was wondering how strong the magnet was on the inside, and it was strong enough to hold a metal paper clip against the leather on both the inside and outside. I guess I am being anal, but I really do not want to mess up my Clie. I have had bad luck with the Pocket PCs since they are not reliable in terms of function and syncing, and this Sony is perfect in all respects. Besides, I really like this case and would like to keep it.


Hmm, anal, I don't think so, OCD possibly, but just in case put it in your microwave for 3 minutes, minimum power, and that should neutralize the effects of the magnet, or bring the case down to one of the local AEC labs and have it tested for radiation.. or go to cyberguys.com and buy a demagnetizer..

just having some phun

[EvilErnie]

My PF case has been in transit for 6 days now! If it doesn't come soon i will bite bert's ears off! :)

[Unregistered]

Gee, so many "nice case, good job" but no pictures of this so called great case.


One would think ONE person would at least post ONE picture, come on people!

[yobbo]

Nice looking case. Very similar to what EB company ( http://www.ebcases.com/StoreFront.bok ) have been producing for all other PDA/Clie versions. Good quality, I used one for the PalmVx and Clie NR70V. I hope they come out with one for the NZ soon their prices are about half what Pielframa are asking.

[EvilErnie]

Its here! At last! Brb with photos!

[knowledge]

Please post pics. Thanks.

[EvilErnie]

Here are some picture for the Piel Frama case,
Case For Piel Farma (http://www.pielframa.com/sony_nz90.htm)
The people at PF have nothing but pleasent and have provided me with exeptional service. The case itself is well made with access to the MS slot, CF slot, the reset button and even die cuts for the sony and clie logos. I bought the one without the belt clip because i dont wear a belt. :) The price is 69.1681 USD.

[MAJI]

I ordered mine Tuesday! I can't wait to get it!

[johnprout]

I have received my PielFrama Case for my NZ90 and it truly is fantastic!
My NZ looks quite at home in it's new leather case.

I ordered it from here in the UK and it took only three days to reach me.

I cannot thank the guys at Piel Frama enough for their quality of service.

John

[med]

Can anyone enlighten me about shipping from PielFrama.....I ordered my case yesterday (Tuesday) and was told by the now famous Ruben that I'll get it in three days. But this is my first time buying anything online and using shipping so I would like to know what kind of custom fees and taxes are involved.

I am in Toronto Canada so cliesource users from up north please reply but anyone in states and anywhere else but Europe can reply if they paid for custom and taxes.

Thanks a lot.

[knowledge]

You can actually get the piel frama case for $54.95 with free shipping from http://www.executivepda.com/HTML/Products/pdaaccessories/nzaccessories.htm Enjoy.

[MAJI]

Gee thanks Knowledge. Where were you two days ago?!? I ordered mine from Pielframa.com Huh, man you talkin bout a bummer!

[Med]

Already order my case from PF but thanks for that piece of info Knowledge (maybe it'll be useful for someone else).

[MAJI]

Originally posted by Med
Already order my case from PF but thanks for that piece of info Knowledge (maybe it'll be useful for someone else).

Med, let me know when you get your case. Tomorrow will be three days right?:confused:

[Med]

Originally posted by MAJI


Med, let me know when you get your case. Tomorrow will be three days right?:confused:

__________________________

I'm actually expecting it Friday since I put in my order late Tuesday night. Maji, No one actually replied to my post earlier today re: custom/tax costs associated with international shipping....do you know from past experience? (I know shipping is included with the PF prices).

I'll let you know when I get the case (tan with belt clip).

[MAJI]

Sorry Med, I have no idea about custom/tax costs.:confused:

[knowledge]

Excutive Pda just got the case in yesterday. Sorry.

[the_iceman]

I wish,... whether it be from vaja ... or PF or whomever .... to create a case... which is an 'empty shell.

By this I mean .... it would be like a cigarette box with the top cut off. The PDA would slide into it with a 'clear' screen down the 'face' of the PDA case. Of course it would need all the good cutouts on the sides for all the NZ's buttons, and access points. But it would be nice to have one.. with a clear screen on the front-face of it. That way I could actually carry my PDA and if I wanted, have the screen in a flipped mode to do work on it without having to remove it from the case itself. For Traveling I could simply remove the PDA from the case.... close the Clamshell so the screen is fully protected ... and place it back in the Case/Sleeve. Once the PDA was seated into the Case ... there would be some kind of small flap from the top-front to the top-back(makes no difference if it is magnetic, snap, velcro) so it could be secured. It would definately have a BELT Clip on it and the clear plastic covering on the face would be replaceable. The plastic sheet would slide into place from the inside of the case. That way ... through wear and tear ... you could replace it with a new screen covering and it would look good as new.

The problem I have with most cases for ClamShell style PDAs... is the dang 'flip' they have. While Vaja and PF make very aesthetically pleasing to the eye Cases ... and are Durable ... they don't work well... with actual USE of the PDA while it is in it's protective cover. You unsnap it.... let the FLAP drape over your hand as you open the ClamShell to actually do some work. That is the one big downside to most cases out there.

If you look at VAJA's site.... I would like to see something made which would be 'similar' in desing to what they create for the IPODs... a nice beautiful 'sleeve'. Of course I'd love it to be made of Leather ... and fit the form of the PDA like a glove. ..... Just seems people have given up on knowing what to do with a 'clamshell' design PDA. It seems the thoughts are to have some 8" flap that needs to go from the top of the PDA... all the way to the bottom.. and wrap partway back around to the back. I see that as a very silly design.

It is the most 'protective', I'll give you that. Your entire PDA is protected by Leather and possibly some padding inbetween the Leather layers. I look at it .... that I'd like to have a case to not only be protective... but also practical. I think it is 'ugly' to have the flap dangling while I open my PDA for a minute to do something which wouldn't really require me to remove it from the case itself.

Many Cell Phones do the same thing as I'm asking for. They create protective sleeves for your cell phone so if you drop it it doesn't get all scratched up. They come with belt clips, and you don't have to remove the phone from the case to use it. I'm hoping someone... somewhere will develop such a case for the Clamshell designed PDAs. I'd definately pay $100 for that!

But for what is currently out there ...... I haven't seen anything that really sparks my interest.

Just my 2cents.

[Patriquen]

Got my PielFrama case on Wed. (May 14) It's very nice - not too bulky considering the size of the NZ.

I think it could use some MS holders on the back, not the front flap, where I think they may drop out more esaily. Wouldn't want to lose one (esp. a 1GB!)

I had a Covertec case for my NX which my wife now uses. It had one nice addition - a small loop to hold a spare stylus.

I noticed my wife had some rubbing on the screen protector and I mentioned it. She said it was like that when I gave it to her, but I then noticed she closes the case with the screen rotated forward, and the Memory Sticks can rub - especially the Bluetooth stick (sticks out more).

BTW - the PielFrama allows access to the CF/wireles slot in the case, and has an extra fold in the back so it doesn't obscure the camera lens. Finally, the belt clip attachment is quite low-profile.

[MAJI]

Originally posted by the_iceman
Just my 2cents.

Boy'ee, you gave more than 2 cents! How about $10.00!:eek:

[MAJI]

Originally posted by Patriquen
Got my PielFrama case on Wed. (May 14) It's very nice - not too bulky considering the size of the NZ.

I think it could use some MS holders on the back, not the front flap, where I think they may drop out more esaily. Wouldn't want to lose one (esp. a 1GB!)

I can't wait to get mine. How much did you pay? Did you order yours from PielFrama.com? Hey, I know the feeling of loosing a memory stick. AhHHHHHHh! :o :( :mad:

[Patriquen]

I paid 60 Euros, including courier to London. I pre-ordered it direct back in April (on the 12th)

[Unregistered]

these guys are amazing...ordered it midnight on wednesday.....arrived in italy 8:30am friday.........now THAT is service, and the case is very nice and discret ;-)

[MAJI]

I'VE GOT MINE! Now this is service, I ordered mine Tuesday evening and BAMN! I received it today. It looks very classy! I love the magnet instead of a cheesy button.:D

[mclin]

I agree with the_iceman. I've been looking for a "pouch" type case for my NZ90 with no luck so far. The "wrap" type cases such as Vaja don't seem practical to use, especially in tablet mode.

[MAJI]

AHHHH! I love this case!

[zoppe]

As rhart00 pointed out, it takes some time since it is completely hand-made product. The leather used is also of a very high quality, it fits like a glove on the NZ....
It is really a worthy purchase!!

Greetz

[Flash-57]

> I think it could use some MS holders on the back,
> not the front flap, where I think they may drop
> out more esaily.

Here's what I did with my previous flip-style case for my old N760C. Get some small rubber bands and stretch one lengthwise over the memory stick. Then, when you slide it into the sleeve in the case, it won't fly out, since the friction of the rubber band will keep it in for all but the most violent flips.

I'm not sure if it will work with your PielFrama case, but it's something to consider.

[MAJI]

Vaja is still GARBAGE!!!!!!

[Med]

Originally posted by MAJI
AHHHH! I love this case!

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My first experience with UPS has left a lot to be desired but FINALLY i'll be getting my tan PF case tomorrow, more than a week after it should have been delivered.

Can't wait.

[MAJI]

Man, did you order it directly from RF.com? They were on time with mine!

[LITTLESIX]

How was anybody's ordering experience with executivepda.com and this case? Their price is cheaper than direct from Pielframa by about 16 bucks going at the current conversion.

[knowledge]

I got the pielframa case for the nz from executivepda.com. I received the case in 3 days without any problems. I highly recommend buying from them rather than pielframa.

[mkpc]

Littlesix,

I ordered my pielframa case from Executive PDA on May 25 and received it yesterday, May 30.&nbsp; My experience with them was great!&nbsp; They confirmed my order immediately. I then received an e-mail confirming the ship date.&nbsp; I am extremely pleased with the quality of the case, and the buying experience.

&nbsp;

I highly recommend them!

[LITTLESIX]

cool - thanks for the feedback

[Patriquen]

I've been using my PF case for a few weeks, now, and it's a fine, well-made. attractive case. My only suggestions are that they add a loop (as in the Covertec) for a spare stylus) and a flap over the MS slots. It would greatly trouble me to have a 1GB MS drop out while I wasn't looking (not that I have one... yet.)

[shostetler]

There needs to be a case that would be a fold over, and would allow a couple spots for additional memory sticks and a stylus. I HATE using my stylus, I prefer my pentopia. I have this feeling that with all the pulling out and putting in of the stylus that eventually it'll fall out. No case out there does this though. I don't know if it's asking too much out of these people or what.

btw, by fold over, I mean that would fold to the side, not over the top as every case seems to do.

[the_iceman]

Still Waiting for PF or Vaja to create a nice sleeve type case..... with window on the front ..... *sigh* .... I guess I better brush up on my leather-making skills.... and create my own... :(

[Empire Devil]

I'm with Shostetler on this one. Fold over like a wallet instead of a flip case. No magnets because I use credit cards. Very form fitting, so we don't add to the only negative on the NZ90, the bulk factor. The Stylus loop/holster can go in the fold area. No belt clips needed here. Can't believe I have this great marvel of technology and can't come up with a decent case for it.

I emailed vaja on this and was told that they are not looking to make a wallet style at this time.

Looks like I'm stuck with the Pielframa for now. I sure do hope that belt clip post doesn't cause problems. Anybody know executivepda's return policy?

[Flash-57]

> How was anybody's ordering experience with executivepda.com

The company was great. The transaction went very smooth.

> and this case?

Now, I've had the PielFrama case in my hands for five hours now, and I absolutely hate the thing. It's going back tomorrow.

First off, I was dismayed at the lack of protection on the sides of the case. Dust and splashes could easy get in. Second, the flap is rather floppy. I understand that the flap needs to bend at a point far below the camera. But, the flap sticks out like a drawbridge. As I turned, I knocked over a drink with it. It bumped into a few more things too.

Third, the magnet is kind of weak. I put my ID, one credit card and $17 in the flap and the magnet wouldn't close anymore.

But, the big problem is the darn belt clip. On the back of the case is knob that you can attach a clip for hooking to your belt. I guess that's nice, in theory. But, in reality, you can't lay the NZ90 flat on the table in the case. The knob is right in the middle and acts like the middle of a seesaw. To use the NZ now, I have to either take it out of the case or hold it in my palm (but, it's too bulky in its case to hold).

Nope, this thing goes out the door. The search goes on.

[Empire Devil]

Thank you for saving me the purchase. The knob on the back of the case was one of my fears.

executivepda.com has a Krusell case listed with a "removable" post for the belt clip. They don't have a picture of it, however, so it is difficult to tell what kind of design it is. I guess the search continues...