"New" TH-55 owner

[smoothjordan]

I have ordered it and it will be here on Tuesday. I'm so excited to be a Clie user again!

[JAmerican]

I have ordered it and it will be here on Tuesday. I'm so excited to be a Clie user again!
Congrats.WOW, whats happening. CLIE users are turning to Palm and Palm users to CLIEs??? Soon Jeff Kirvin will buy a UX and will deem Clamshells the best devices in the world. LMAO!!

JAmerican

[DanT]

Congratulations and welcome back to the CLIE club!

Soon I have 3 TH55s in good working order and one is disassembled for parts. ;)

[smoothjordan]

Congrats.WOW, whats happening. CLIE users are turning to Palm and Palm users to CLIEs??? Soon Jeff Kirvin will buy a UX and will deem Clamshells the best devices in the world. LMAO!!

JAmerican

Doubt JK will switch, he loves his webbased apps :confused:

[wellsjs]

I have ordered it and it will be here on Tuesday. I'm so excited to be a Clie user again!We're excited for you! Congratulations! :)

[dragonsgames]

Wow, TH looks cool. Bet you will love it! European or American? lol, funny sounding question... ;)

[JAmerican]

Doubt JK will switch, he loves his webbased apps :confused:

It was a joke. Hence the LMAO! comment.

JAmerican

[dragonsgames]

Lmao!!!!!! ;)

[smoothjordan]

It was a joke. Hence the LMAO! comment.

JAmerican


I know dude, kirvin is a character. :) I'll post some pics when I get it with my new phone too :)

[Fanny]

Hi there,

yesterday he's coming home :)

After switchin' in July 05 to LifeDrive and Oktober 05 to T|X, I'll be back.

[DanT]

Why switchin'back? What's wrong with LD & TX?

[Fanny]

Why switchin'back? What's wrong with LD & TX?
everything ;)

LD is too slow and the Digitizer from T|X has a malfunction.
The T|X is on the way: from Germany (Palm Support Center) to the Tschech Republik (Repair Center in Prague). From Palm Support I received a track number today.

[DanT]

Thanks for the reply, Fanny. Hear that, JAmerican (http://www.1src.com/forums/showthread.php?t=108068)? ;)

[LanMan]

Congrats! We can't let the TH55 forum die, so all new members are welcome.

[daver]

the TH55 cannot die! it's the ultimate handheld ever to have been created. sure the new generations have 90000 mhz processors and 30gb microdrives, but the TH55 still trumps them all! :D :D

[harpgliss]

the TH55 cannot die! it's the ultimate handheld ever to have been created.

Hi,

I certainly agree 100% with you.

I may have went to a PPC but will guard my TH55 with a lot of care.

Best pda I have owned and I will continue to be a TH55 owner.

Long live the TH55.

David

[smoothjordan]

That's what I'm hoping guys and gals... I'm going to revive and liven up the TH forum :)

[wellsjs]

That's what I'm hoping guys and gals... I'm going to revive and liven up the TH forum :)Oh boy . . . and I had to go and encourage you! :p :D

[JAmerican]

Thanks for the reply, Fanny. Hear that, JAmerican (http://www.1src.com/forums/showthread.php?t=108068)? ;)

and my UX has a WiFi malfunction. Does not mean all devices do. The TH and UX all have slow processors, thats a fact ;). Recently, I've used my PDA mostly as a PMP/MP3 Player and Internet. My T-Mobile phone no longer offers me DUN service so I've got no service to the internet whatsoever. So I need WiFi. I'm done buying UXs. I've bought three UXs to date and a UX50 motherboard. The only one that works (including motherboard) is the one in my working UX. Everything else is dead. So tell me, why should I buy another. If the TH had a faster processor, I'd get it. But it doesn't. If I could get a TH for the price I got a TX for ($206) with BT in it, I'd get it.

JAmerican

[DanT]

Speed means nothing if your digitizer doesn't work and the power goes to pot in a hurry. ;)

Actually I have no problem with my TH55 speed. Long battery life, stable system, WiFi, camera, movie, and MP3 are what I care most. TH55 has them all. I have Bluetooth in one of them that I plan to hook it up with Bluetooth GPS. Almost forgot to mention about the audio recorder bonus. :D

[salesrep]

If I could get a TH for the price I got a TX for ($206) with BT in it, I'd get it.

JAmerican

I just paid $190 for my new backup TH55/E from London. Shipping was around $20. . .so you should consider it if/when your TX betrays you! :eek:

[JAmerican]

Speed means nothing if your digitizer doesn't work and the power goes to pot in a hurry. ;)

Actually I have no problem with my TH55 speed. Long battery life, stable system, WiFi, camera, movie, and MP3 are what I care most. TH55 has them all. I have Bluetooth in one of them that I plan to hook it up with Bluetooth GPS. Almost forgot to mention about the audio recorder bonus. :D

As I said, he said his digitizer don't work. Does not mean all them do not work. I've used the TX before and had little to no issue with it. Yes, I did have an issue with it because I rarely use a digitizer on my UX. You can't play SNES on the TH55 or UX. The screen on the TX is larger than the TH as well. I've used a TH and don't get me wrong, I like it a lot but economically, I'd rather get a newer device that cost less than an older one that costs more. I also like the fact that I can get a 2GB SD card for $50 compared to the MS cost. I'm done. I've already purchased it. When I get it, I'll let you guys know.

BTW, I find the audio recorder to be not really important without a camera. Yes the TH has a camera (and the Movie recording soft from the UX), so having a audio recorder makes sense.

In the end, its based on need. I will no longer need a keyboard device for college due to I will be getting a laptop. I need a larger screen, WiFi, BT, cheap media, gaming and media. The TH does not do SNES gaming due to slow processor so its out. Media can be done via TCPMP. With MaXX, you can have Netfront on your Palm. The new PDF solutions available works on your Palm. DocsToGo actually seeks documents faster on TX than it did on my UX. The $50 2GB SD card was a steal. I will never find a deal like that for the MS. Only in like 3 yrs. The stylus (is another major reason for switching). I got tired of the toothpick and the pen-like stylus on the TX is so much more comfortable. If you can find me a TH with BT and WiFi and processor 312Mhz, I'll get it. But you can't. Yes, the TX may have its quirks, just like the American TH does not have BT, but these quirks can be fixed. I will look into battery mods and other mods that can be done for the TX. Remember, I like to do stuff like that. I did it with the UX and now might be able to with the TX. Only time will tell. Eventually you will give up your TH. You won't be using it 10 years from now.

JAmerican

[JAmerican]

I just paid $190 for my new backup TH55/E from London. Shipping was around $20. . .so you should consider it if/when your TX betrays you! :eek:

Where did you find this??

JAmerican

[Chou Chou]

I just paid $190 for my new backup TH55/E from London. Shipping was around $20. . .so you should consider it if/when your TX betrays you! :eek:
Where did you get it in London??

[wellsjs]

I just paid $190 for my new backup TH55/E from London. Shipping was around $20. . .so you should consider it if/when your TX betrays you! :eek:Yeah, especially since they're going for $599 at Amazon.con (no typo there! :D )

[JAmerican]

Yeah, especially since they're going for $599 at Amazon.con (no typo there! :D )

My point exactly. DanT, if you want to buy me a Th55/e and I pay you $206 for it, we have a deal.

[JAmerican]

I just paid $190 for my new backup TH55/E from London. Shipping was around $20. . .so you should consider it if/when your TX betrays you! :eek:

My UX has betrayed me many of times. If the TX dies on me, at least my data is safe (unlike on my UX or on a TH).

JAmerican

[DanT]

JA, it is clear that you get a damn good deal on TX. Economically, getting TX makes sense if it meets your needs. My point is everything looks rosy until things start to go south on you.

There are reasons why TH holding the prize up, while TX sliding down. I hope your TX is keeping up with your high power usage. I'm tired of Palm inferior quality in the past. I remember my Vx power button quit and I almot smashed it to the wall.

[wellsjs]

I remember my Vx power button quit and I almot smashed it to the wall.Then you got a cute puppy to help with your anger management! :)

[DanT]

I got two of them puppies. They play with each other all day and always happy to see me, so I would say yes, they would have kept me from smashing that Vx to the wall, had I not lost it first.

I lost the Vx on the airplane (left it on seat pocket). Good ridden, I would say. Tried M505 for 2 weeks and then N760C showed up with MP3 and headphone remote control. Exchanged the M505 with N760C, back in September 2001, and never looked back to Palm One product since. I haven't have any problem with all of my CLIEs. Am I lucky?

My 3 TH55s should last me long enough before I find a worthy replacement someday. Hmm, Dell's Axim X51v (http://www1.us.dell.com/content/products/category.aspx/pda?c=us&cs=19&l=en&s=dhs) with VGA display, wifi, Bluetooth, 624MHz, 256MB ROM, 64MB SDRAM, for $374 after 25% off, is not too bad of an upgrade. What do you think? ;)

[JAmerican]

So you'd rather switch than to go to a Palm. Wow, you remind me of me. Just that I didn't have the money to go through with it. I also hope the TX does not die on me for the Treo 90 died (my first PDA) died on me in a week after I got it. I'm going to see if I can register my TX through Palm.com since they don't ask for place of purchase info. Just date :). Hopefully it wasn't.

JAmerican

[JAmerican]

JA, it is clear that you get a damn good deal on TX. Economically, getting TX makes sense if it meets your needs. My point is everything looks rosy until things start to go south on you.

There are reasons why TH holding the prize up, while TX sliding down. I hope your TX is keeping up with your high power usage. I'm tired of Palm inferior quality in the past. I remember my Vx power button quit and I almot smashed it to the wall.

I plan to do some battery mods if I don't like the battery life. Just hope there's room for what I want to do.

JAmerican

[salesrep]

Where did you find this??

JAmerican

Ebay! Don't forget that there are several ways of purchasing on eBay--straight up auction and Buy It Now.

Typically, BIN isn't a good deal because people who list it as BIN Only know what they will go for and it's usually like retail price would be in a store.

But, often you will see an item listed that will start at $ .99 for the auction but will also have the BIN feature added to the listing hoping that someone will come along and just end the thing. Maybe they don't want the suspense or there could be numerous reasons. Sometimes it could be they aren't fully aware of what the item for sale COULD bring and they priced the BIN too low. . .as was the case with my recent example. The item was listed as an auction, but also had the BIN option at US $190. . .needless to say that I jumped on it right away! It would have definitely gone for much more than that on the auction side.

SO--the point here is that, yes, you can just get lucky on eBay from time to time. But it helps to know when people are listing their items, which depends on when they want them to close and at what time because unless there's a reserve price set on these combo auctions, then the BIN option goes away with the first bid at whatever the opening price was. Typical auctions will go either 3, 5, or 7 days and you want to end them when you think most people will have a chance to follow them to raise the price as much as possible. . .mostly Saturday or Sunday ending days, but there's others too. So what I do is check eBay for deals really late Sunday night or early Monday morning (because people listing a 7 day auction would have just put them up and odds are good that no one's seen or bid on them yet.) Also, look for auctions that end in the middle of the day when everyone's at school or work--mid morning or mid-afternoon.

I just sold my previous back-up PDA (tg50) on eBay. When I listed it, I started the auction price at $.99 to attract buyers early on and keep them interested, but I also put on a BIN at $125 because I felt it would probably hit it and I thought it was a fair price for the package I was offering. So bidders jumped all over the $.99 bid and it went from there. . .ended tonight at $162.50!! Not bad considering I had a total of $80 in it including shipping when I purchased it from eBay myself. :D

[wellsjs]

Figure out how to mass produce that transaction and you can quit your daytime job. ;)

[DanT]

salesrep, I think people are wondering if that is 190GBP, not 190USD since you get it from eBay UK. 190 GBP or 331.66 USD makes more sense. What is the eBay item number?

I hope you get it as advertised. It sounds too good to be true, knowing how good TH55/E demand is.

[salesrep]

salesrep, I think people are wondering if that is 190GBP, not 190USD since you get it from eBay UK. 190 GBP or 331.66 USD makes more sense. What is the eBay item number?

I hope you get it as advertised. It sounds too good to be true, knowing how good TH55/E demand is.

Here's the link for the auction:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=9700014760&ssPageName=STRK:MEWN:IT

I went ahead and bought the 512 MB MS from him as well, and total with the MS & shipping came to about US$250. . .should be here early next week I would imagine.

Let you know when I'm officially a member of the TH55 nutcase club! :D

[Fanny]

... 190 GBP or 331.66 USD makes more sense. ...
whate are 260,-- €uros in Dollar?
doesn't matter: I will have a TH-55 and that's the price!

Excuse my fraktal english.

[dragonsgames]

So you'd rather switch than to go to a Palm. Wow, you remind me of me. Just that I didn't have the money to go through with it. I also hope the TX does not die on me for the Treo 90 died (my first PDA) died on me in a week after I got it. I'm going to see if I can register my TX through Palm.com since they don't ask for place of purchase info. Just date :). Hopefully it wasn't.

JAmerican

Was the Treo 90 even made by Palm? I believe it was made by Handspring, so.. you have never owned a Palm ;)
I have owned a Palm before, and it was fine.

[DanT]

Here's the link for the auction:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=9700014760&ssPageName=STRK:MEWN:IT

I went ahead and bought the 512 MB MS from him as well, and total with the MS & shipping came to about US$250. . .should be here early next week I would imagine.

Let you know when I'm officially a member of the TH55 nutcase club! :D

Wow. You are one lucky dude! :cool:

[JAmerican]

Was the Treo 90 even made by Palm? I believe it was made by Handspring, so.. you have never owned a Palm ;)
I have owned a Palm before, and it was fine.

It was made by a Colligan-run company. So its the same to me.

JAmerican

[DanT]

whate are 260,-- €uros in Dollar?
doesn't matter: I will have a TH-55 and that's the price!

Excuse my fraktal english.

Your English is fine. At least I understand you. Much better than my German for sure. The eBay Item number: 9700014760 (http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=9700014760&ssPageName=STRK:MEWN:IT) is in US Dollars. It worths checking eBay once in a while for good deals such as this one.

Tschuess ;)

[smoothjordan]

Well, getting and closer and closer to the day where my 650 will not be with me anymore and I'm excited. I'm not sure what to think of the processor, hopefully it will run video's at full speed and surf the net at a decent speed as well. I must not miss the 650 :) (I love the KB tho for texting!!!)

[JAmerican]

Videos will run smoothly. You will love it. I've used the TH and I've loved it for mainly its screen and the clear cover that dims the screen brightness.

JAmerican

[THX-1138]

SmoothJordan,

Why are you letting go of your 650? Is it because of your cellphone plan or job?
Thought 650 owners would not let go of theirs just as TH55 owners. :confused:

[smoothjordan]

SmoothJordan,

Why are you letting go of your 650? Is it because of your cellphone plan or job?
Thought 650 owners would not let go of theirs just as TH55 owners. :confused:

NOpe, tired of the small screen and instabilty as a phone/pda (even with stock apps, i get resets after a certain amount of calls or texts. I can't put up iwth it anymore!)

[DanT]

You're not the only one with Treo instability. Check this PDA 24/7 thread (http://clieuk.co.uk/forum/showthread.php?t=5147&highlight=switch+treo) and this thread (http://clieuk.co.uk/forum/showthread.php?t=4957&highlight=switch+treo) and this thread (http://clieuk.co.uk/forum/showthread.php?t=5612&highlight=crash+treo) and this thread (http://clieuk.co.uk/forum/showthread.php?t=1236&highlight=crash+treo). LOL.

[wellsjs]

Also, most of the "fuss" and bugs in Iambic's Agendus Pro revolves around Treo issues. Agendus 10.06 (.04 for that matter) works fantastic on my TH55. Of course, I can't take advantage of all the phone features in the 10.x version, but I'm experiencing no bugs.

[dragonsgames]

What about Clie Organizer?

[DanT]

What about it? I hardly use it.

[wellsjs]

What about it? I hardly use it.I hardly have even thought of hardly using it! :D

[smoothjordan]

Is clie organizer any good? I remember I wanted it to work so bad on my T|E but it had to be a sony to work. It looked really cool! Thoughts?

[THX-1138]

Hello DanT,

It is a fact that most of the posters in any device forum are owners with issues. The TH55 is a great machine but it is not flawless, same thing with the Treo and any other device. By just showing threads with people complaining about it does not proof that a device is faulty but instead it just shows the people who have issues.

[wellsjs]

Is clie organizer any good? I remember I wanted it to work so bad on my T|E but it had to be a sony to work. It looked really cool! Thoughts?It's better than the built-in PIM apps, but far inferior to the likes of DateBk and Agendus.

[DanT]

Hello DanT,

It is a fact that most of the posters in any device forum are owners with issues. The TH55 is a great machine but it is not flawless, same thing with the Treo and any other device. By just showing threads with people complaining about it does not proof that a device is faulty but instead it just shows the people who have issues.

That is true. No PDA is perfect. Different strokes for different folks. We make mistakes. However, how often such complains are made is a good indication of how well the device is designed to cope with our various needs, curiosity, and shortcoming habits or physical attributes. Facts that you can't deny are the Treo's small buttons and screen size can be irritating to some people with weak eyes or big fingers. Poking the buttons with stylus is not an efficient way of using the keyboard. Just my 2 cents. :)

[THX-1138]

Though I do agree with the following statement from NarrowRoad:

"...As far as Palm sitting on its laurels, they've been doing that a looooooong time. It was Sony that forced them to make any kind of move forward IMO, and that was a few years ago. The only time Palm really innovated was in the very beginning when they stole the market away from the Zoomer and Newton. The real innovation in the Palm platform has always been mostly from the software developers; the natural advancement of technology has allowed Palm to add more memory, use color, etc. But they've never been drastically innovative. Just look at what Sony did with the platform. That should have been what Palm was doing too, but no. Maybe it was due to Sony having greater resources - to some extent, ok, but that doesn't excuse all of Palms inertia, and when they finally did 'innovate' look what they came up with: NVFS and the LifeDrive. Good concepts, but very poorly implemented. There's no excuse for that. They've sullied their own name and squandered the good will of the community with those half-assed efforts.

I love the PalmOS, despite Palms cobbled development efforts, and I just bought a TX, because it's the best POS handheld on the market right now, imo. But I know Palm could do better, if they wanted to. Maybe they just don't want to. Maybe they just want to make phones, with small screens.

I have a TX, I have an SJ30, I had a Neo; I like Palms. I also have an Axim X30, and I like it a lot. I would like to see Palm remain in the handheld market, and excell in it. But maybe that's not practical or possible, especially if they themselves don't value that market.

In the so-called 'war' between WM and POS if the Palm loses, the way things are going, Palm is going to be to blame for a large part of it..."

[smoothjordan]

Just got it earlier today, just came home from work and it's so freeking awesoem!!!

[dragonsgames]

Congrats! It is always fun to have a new toy! I bet having the Camera/Voice recorder/WiFi/great battery life/great size will be nice ;)

[JAmerican]

That's the Sony Experience!! :) ENJOY!! :)

JAmerican

[LanMan]

Is clie organizer any good? I remember I wanted it to work so bad on my T|E but it had to be a sony to work. It looked really cool! Thoughts?

CO is a great concept, but Sony just didn't follow-through with it. It needs some of the basics that I have become dependent upon with DB5. Plus it's just too slow when you have a lot of entries and media content.

[SonyStyle]

i love sony clies, in fact i love all of them, we share a bond together!! The TH55 is a great machine i must say but lacks a megapixel camera and 500mhz+ processor. but iam really proud that sony could make use of the 123mhz very efficient which does not make it that slow at times. its just sad how sony left the market, now i have no new toy to buy!! palm doesnt impress me with their latest handhelds. i am after cellphones now, hah.

[smoothjordan]

i'm having troubles uninstalling palm desktop and reinstalling the clie one. Everytime i go to uninstall it says palmone.msi and won't uninstall. I search and see if i can figure it out

[wellsjs]

Usually when that sort of thing occurs, it's a registry key (malfunction of their uninstall process). Hopefully you will find something in Palm support or as I'm finding more and more, if you can put together the right "key words," Google will provide excellent "hits." I have gotten to where I "Google it" before going to Microsoft Support and usually get to the answer in FAR LESS time. ;)

[smoothjordan]

w00t!! I got it working!!! I've just got to finish my homework (economics bites!) and then i can start installing stuff!!!

[salesrep]

w00t!! I got it working!!! I've just got to finish my homework (economics bites!) and then i can start installing stuff!!!

I hated economics in high school, but when I got to college, it was probably the best class I took the whole time (I took Micro...)

Probably the difference with being in high school vs being married, owning a home, working, etc. :)

[smoothjordan]

i'm in college. Taking macroeconomics... It's not really the class, it's my teacher, english is not his first language heh

[salesrep]

Yeah, that makes a huge difference, ESL. . .

My professor used calculus a lot to make the connection with many of the concepts, and since I came from Engineering, I loved it. There were many, however, who didn't have the background and hated it.

BTW--smoothjordan, where in Texas are you?

[smoothjordan]

Near forthood, sales rep.... I'm going to Tartleton State (Bought by A&M) . I just installed docs 2 go, I'm needing more stuff to install, I enjoy Clie Organizer so i won't be installing db5 for now... Maybe some games for class :)