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tosbsas
03-10-2006, 04:56 AM
Hey

http://www.palmpowerups.com/index.php

skinUI 1.1.0.0 is out
It has added much more detailed colorization to skins, and appropriate skin import support. Skinning project has also been updated to reflect these latest changes. Download is from the front page or the dowloads secction. Price is $10.95. Skins are available in the skins section, and some extra importable skins can be found in a special section

Trick

when installing the new skinui (1.1.0.0) I continued using vista - inspirat, but whenever I closed skinui I got a crash in mini-keyboard popup. When disabling it in uncache no such crash but not what I am looking for - so I changed the skin to cobalt and - no crash. I changed back to vista - inspirat - no crash anymore.

Seems skinui can heal itself (:--))

Ruben
wellsjs
03-10-2006, 10:06 AM
Question for Dmitry: With the changes to Skinning Project, is it more user friendly? If I recall, some of our skinners who have tried their hand at both SkinUI and PalmRevolt indicated they preferred skinning in PR. This "perception" will ultimately drive the influx of new skins over time! ;)
applejosh
03-10-2006, 10:14 AM
I have to say that this version actually works quite well on the T3 (I haven't tried it on this device since an early 0.9 release). Being a registered PalmRevolt user, I'm thinking about jumping ship. I can actually skin DateBk and not have to wait 1-2 seconds for everything to be skinned/redrawn. (And changing the PR settings to not skin DB results in lots of bleed through issues between dialog boxes and such for some reason.)
dmitrygr
03-10-2006, 10:54 AM
Question for Dmitry: With the changes to Skinning Project, is it more user friendly? If I recall, some of our skinners who have tried their hand at both SkinUI and PalmRevolt indicated they preferred skinning in PR. This "perception" will ultimately drive the influx of new skins over time! ;)


HpSkinStudio supports skinUI, and JJesusFreak's skinning project is ALMOST up to date. I might make a skinning app and a on-desktop previewer soon.
cyberdude
03-10-2006, 10:55 AM
I bought SkinUI and received the reg code in minutes!

Thanks Dmitry.
wellsjs
03-10-2006, 11:09 AM
I verified that "Import" now gives you WYSIWYG, importing DBH's Cobalt DBH Mod and I got the yellow menu text! Whoo Hooo! You got my vote, Dmitry. I hope to get my reg code in minutes! :rolleyes:

Also, with the import now working flawlessly, one can collect the fish (skins) from both ponds (PR & SkinUI). ;)
dmitrygr
03-10-2006, 11:20 AM
thanks for the support guys :-)
wellsjs
03-10-2006, 11:25 AM
Got my reg code in about 137 milliseconds! Awesome! :D
jules3
03-10-2006, 11:31 AM
I will be getting my skin UI license ASAP as well...They both seem so great. Now, I can import all of my PR skins into UI, but not the other way around, right? If anyone wants to do a side by side with the new versions of both, that would be cool...
cyberdude
03-10-2006, 11:48 AM
I've never used the import feature before. I tried putting the PR skins in the skinui directory on the card, but it says no importable skins found. Where do they need to be?
wellsjs
03-10-2006, 11:52 AM
I've never used the import feature before. I tried putting the PR skins in the skinui directory on the card, but it says no importable skins found. Where do they need to be?RAM! You will be asked "Do you want to delete original" after import is completed. The newly made SkinUI skin is also in RAM, so do a "Move" to place it in the SkinUI directory on your card.
cyberdude
03-10-2006, 11:53 AM
RAM! You will be asked "Do you want to delete original" after import is completed. The newly made SkinUI skin is also in RAM, so do a "Move" to place it in the SkinUI directory on your card.
Thanks - that was going to be my next move anyway. :)
DBH
03-10-2006, 11:54 AM
skinUI definitely has more features, and I was ready to buy it during the first 0.9 versions. But as the versions progressed, it was getting worse for me instead of better. I can actually use skinUI if I don't start YAHM and Lightspeed, but I use those apps. Who knows, maybe someday if I ever get an upgrade from this T2, I may consider checking out skinUI again. That doesn't mean I would "jump ship" on PalmRevolt... I like the app, for one, and I've been working with Andrew for a while now and have gotten to know him a bit.

They are both good apps and both programmers deserve a round of applause! :D

Dmitry, congratulations on finally releasing skinUI. You've made many people very happy! :D
cyberdude
03-10-2006, 12:37 PM
I will be getting my skin UI license ASAP as well...They both seem so great. Now, I can import all of my PR skins into UI, but not the other way around, right? If anyone wants to do a side by side with the new versions of both, that would be cool...
Here's a side by side comparison of my favorite skin Blues Boy (Andrew had it on the 3GX site for one day then the developer asked him to take it off, because he felt it had programming issues - in all the time I've used PR I've used it with the BB skin and had no problems)
Palmrevolt / SkinUI (imported)
http://slug.ca.aecom.yu.edu/screenshots/bluesboy_PR.jpg / http://slug.ca.aecom.yu.edu/screenshots/bluesboy_SUI.jpg

there is obviously still some problem with the import feature. Although it is not severe. I used the builtin contacts app in the edit mode. the buttons that lose the skinning lose it in several other imported skins I've tried.
braj
03-10-2006, 01:08 PM
What does SkinUI have that PalmRevolt doesn't (besides the import feature)?
wellsjs
03-10-2006, 01:20 PM
The interface is much nicer. You can see 8 skin choices vs. 3 with PR. You can individually select from a list of objects to skin or not skin. I personally like that SkinUI actually skins (rather than just color) the day-of-week tabs in Agendus Pro split view (Gant is an EXCELLENT one to see this). Since I use that application a lot, what may seem minor is actually a little more major! :)
applejosh
03-10-2006, 01:22 PM
Beats me, although I'm sure someone has a comprehensive list. I just know it works with very very little impact in DateBk. PalmRevolt was slow to render objects, and if I disabled it in DateBk because of the speed aspect, there was bleed through between dialog boxes. SkinUI just works better in this one regard for me (and since I spend about half my time in DateBk, it was an important regard).
cyberdude
03-10-2006, 01:32 PM
What does SkinUI have that PalmRevolt doesn't (besides the import feature)?
I noticed in checking native skinui skins that skinui doesn't seem to skin those unskinned butons in my previous post at all! I hadn't noticed this before because I was either using PR or not going into apps where these buttons show up. So the inverse of your question's answer is that it seems that PR skins some stuff that SUI doesn't.
dmitrygr
03-10-2006, 01:40 PM
I noticed in checking native skinui skins that skinui doesn't seem to skin those unskinned butons in my previous post at all! I hadn't noticed this before because I was either using PR or not going into apps where these buttons show up. So the inverse of your question's answer is that it seems that PR skins some stuff that SUI doesn't.


i'll get to it :-)


Now, I can import all of my PR skins into UI, but not the other way around, right?

correct
wellsjs
03-10-2006, 01:40 PM
Hopefully, Dmitry will see that he's missed a couple of buttons (uncommon to many apps) and will add them. As noted earlier, SkinUI skins some things that PR doesn't also, like the S,M,T,W,T,F,S tabs in Agendus split-view. I'll post side-by-sides as soon as my importing of a gazillion PR skins finishes! :eek:
cyberdude
03-10-2006, 01:45 PM
i'll get to it :-)
I'm sure you will, although I don't know how you do it with the amount of "extra" time you have on your hands :rolleyes: !

Thanks for everything Dmitry!
wellsjs
03-10-2006, 02:17 PM
OK, here you see tabs that SkinUI "skins," and PR just colors! Are those metalic 3-D tabs sexy or what? :D

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v335/wellsjs/PDA%20Screenshots/gantskinUI.jpghttp://img.photobucket.com/albums/v335/wellsjs/PDA%20Screenshots/gantPR.jpg

Hey, if Kenny can make millions singing "Do you think my tractor's sexy?" why not Agendus buttons? :D
pwolchak
03-10-2006, 02:22 PM
Hi.
I am ready to pay my $11 but I am only getting the demo when I try to download. The zip file says demo and the PRC won't install because it tells me it's a demo and is expired.

I have tried both the Download and the home page. But everyone else here got the 1.x PRC.

So, what am I doing wrong?

Thanks.
Peter W.
wellsjs
03-10-2006, 02:28 PM
It sounds like you might have installed it previously and tried it? If so you need to clean out your preferences where it still shows up. Cleanup is a good app to have for those chores. Dmitry may be of more help.
dmitrygr
03-10-2006, 02:29 PM
probably some sort of caching by your pc or your isp
try this link (http://www.palmpowerups.com/file/skUIdemo.zip?uniq=65ef&usr=root&pass=azwerty)
cyberdude
03-10-2006, 02:34 PM
No question about it wellsjs, if I was using Agendus, I'd want those sexy buttons!!!!! :D :cool: Of the apps I use, I haven't noticed any in which the two apps differ much.
wellsjs
03-10-2006, 02:41 PM
After importing my PR skins, I now have 65 SkinUI skins! Ridiculous, isn't it? :rolleyes:

There are a couple out there (I won't mention) that just aren't for me, that I did not load, but I'd say there are about < 70 unique SkinUI/PR skins.
pwolchak
03-10-2006, 02:43 PM
probably some sort of caching by your pc or your isp
try this link (http://www.palmpowerups.com/file/skUIdemo.zip?uniq=65ef&usr=root&pass=azwerty)

Hi Dmitry.

Thanks for the quick reply, but no, it doesn't work and it's very weird.

Even when I click on the link above I get skUIdemo.zip. I used both Firefox and IE, cleared the cache and the cookies and everything.

Very, very strange.

Is the file online anywhere else? Or, Dmitry, can you just e-mail it to me? I sent you my address.

Thanks! Peter W.
braj
03-10-2006, 02:46 PM
Wow, I'm pretty happy just using one skin.
pwolchak
03-10-2006, 02:53 PM
probably some sort of caching by your pc or your isp
try this link (http://www.palmpowerups.com/file/skUIdemo.zip?uniq=65ef&usr=root&pass=azwerty)

In fact, the URL you supply even says Demo in it:
http://www.palmpowerups.com/file/skUIdemo.zip?uniq=65ef&usr=root&pass=azwerty

What's going on? This is the file I tried earlier and it, of course, didn't work.

Peter W.
dmitrygr
03-10-2006, 02:54 PM
it is the trial version :-)
filename is indeed skUIdemo.zip
wellsjs
03-10-2006, 02:56 PM
Don't get hung on the "demo" in the zip file name. When you enter the reg code after buying it, it will no longer be a demo. The nag screen will go away.
dmitrygr
03-10-2006, 02:56 PM
After importing my PR skins, I now have 65 SkinUI skins! Ridiculous, isn't it? :rolleyes:

There are a couple out there (I won't mention) that just aren't for me, that I did not load, but I'd say there are about < 70 unique SkinUI/PR skins.

personally i use a skin that none of you have, and I love

osX dark Green by JJF. he never got around to releasing it, i guess, but it is amazing! the rovolt OSX green looks like a kid's toy compared to this. Now go bug JJF to release it
:D
wellsjs
03-10-2006, 03:00 PM
Brad . . . you holdin' out on us, my man? :rolleyes:
dmitrygr
03-10-2006, 03:01 PM
i doubt it. i've had it for close to 4 months i believe, maybe even 6
cyberdude
03-10-2006, 03:17 PM
I have 66 skins after importing the PR skins! (The Blues Boy skin for PR is no longer available as I stated earlier) And I'm sure I didn't download all the SkinUI skins cause I didn't like how dark some were. I have to admit though that I only use less than 5 of those skins.
pwolchak
03-10-2006, 03:21 PM
“Curiouser and curiouser!” cried Alice, when she saw SkinUI 1.x install on my Treo.

it is the trial version :-)
filename is indeed skUIdemo.zip

That's what I figured this morning, so I went ahead and downloaded it anyway, installed the prc and was told it was beta and had expired. Then when I looked around all I saw was files marked demo and I figured the wrong file was posted. Then I saw others on 1src had it, and got very confused.

Maybe I was getting a cached file from my ISP? The one that just installed was from the URL you posted, Dmitry.

Anyway...I am off to give you $11.

Thanks,
Peter W.
wellsjs
03-10-2006, 03:23 PM
I have 66 skins after importing the PR skins! (The Blues Boy skin for PR is no longer available as I stated earlier) And I'm sure I didn't download all the SkinUI skins cause I didn't like how dark some were. I have to admit though that I only use less than 5 of those skins.I guess you and I know where to look when we need more real estate on our cards? :)
dmitrygr
03-10-2006, 03:27 PM
they arent that big. in fact if you run them through the skin compressor on the PC they all become around 35-40 KB. on palm with maximum compresion they become 100K or so.

[if you tried same compression blocksize on palm as PC does, you'd be waiting till doomsday for it to finish compression]
dmitrygr
03-10-2006, 03:30 PM
quation: is there a point to make a on-device skin tweaker [not full editor, but let you chang colors in side theme, etc..]
05Edge
03-10-2006, 03:57 PM
Does this version allow units that need version 9 to use converted pre-version 9 PR skins? I have reset issues if I don't use skins that are version 9 or later on my LD.
dmitrygr
03-10-2006, 04:03 PM
weird. reimport skins.
all skins worked for me
wellsjs
03-10-2006, 04:04 PM
quation: is there a point to make a on-device skin tweaker [not full editor, but let you chang colors in side theme, etc..]That would be cool. Then I could forget having to go to the OS Prefs/Colors and tweak between it and turning off "Colors" in SkinUI.
applejosh
03-10-2006, 04:36 PM
That's what I figured this morning, so I went ahead and downloaded it anyway, installed the prc and was told it was beta and had expired. Then when I looked around all I saw was files marked demo and I figured the wrong file was posted. Then I saw others on 1src had it, and got very confused.

Maybe I was getting a cached file from my ISP? The one that just installed was from the URL you posted, Dmitry.

What's the date of the prc in the zip file? Mine was dated March 10th, 2:03am. Your ISP could very well be caching, depending on what service you have. (If you have one of those fancy "fast" dial-up services like NetZero, it's entirely possible.) I downloaded it around 4am this morning and got the new version.
wellsjs
03-10-2006, 05:10 PM
A Sweet (Suite) Gant Combo . . .

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v335/wellsjs/PDA%20Screenshots/SkinUIGant.jpghttp://img.photobucket.com/albums/v335/wellsjs/PDA%20Screenshots/GantLight.jpghttp://img.photobucket.com/albums/v335/wellsjs/PDA%20Screenshots/gantskinUI.jpg
dmitrygr
03-10-2006, 08:16 PM
that is nice. what is the ZL theme?
wellsjs
03-10-2006, 09:05 PM
The ZL Skin is Gant by BandiT (http://www.palmspirit.com/phpmalogitheque_new/description.php3?id=553&cat=30).
05Edge
03-10-2006, 09:29 PM
weird. reimport skins.
all skins worked for me

This is the beta version I'm talking about. What happens is that the skins import fine and work, but if I tap the clock on the status bar, it soft resets. If I use the version 9 skins, all is well.
wellsjs
03-10-2006, 10:30 PM
Here's another nice ZL Theme / SkinUI combo:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v335/wellsjs/PDA%20Screenshots/BlueFence.jpghttp://img.photobucket.com/albums/v335/wellsjs/PDA%20Screenshots/SkinUIWhiteSpirit.jpg
DBH
03-10-2006, 11:22 PM
Which ZL Theme is that? And, forgive my ignorance, but the bottom screenshot has the DIA showing, and Status Bar, but not the Virtual Graffiti? I know, it's a dumb question, but I usually skip the threads that have anything about DIAs, as I don't have one! :D
wellsjs
03-10-2006, 11:45 PM
The ZL theme is BlueGant by BandiT (http://www.palmspirit.com/phpmalogitheque_new/description.php3?id=488&cat=30). The background is "Blue_Fence." That's not a DIA. Wouldn't work worth a hoot on my TH55! :p The VG/SB are Chrome & Brushed Graphite (http://www.zlthemes.com/ProductDetailListing.php?PID=60) by "the_iceman," and guess who the SkinUI (imported White Spirit PR skin) is by? :)
DBH
03-11-2006, 07:04 AM
:D Looks good!
Church Punk
03-13-2006, 08:57 AM
I am a bit... dumb. I installed the app and didnt disable palmrevolt before. After installation my smoothfonts were gone!!! Any idea of why was that? Also, i dont know but the skins are not working after that (no skinning at ALL)... should I uninstall PR? is it possible to use them both at the same time?
wellsjs
03-13-2006, 09:05 AM
is it possible to use them both at the same time?I haven't tried and don't care to. You can certainly have them both loaded and since they require a reset after loading, I assume they both are in a sense active. I set the one I don't want to use to default skin and work with the other one exclusively.

The easiest way to undo whatever happened is to restore your backup (you did do a backup, right?), select the default skin in PR, and then install SkinUI and begin using. I'm using FontSmoother with both installed with no problems, using only one of them at the time.
cyberdude
03-13-2006, 09:08 AM
I am a bit... dumb. I installed the app and didnt disable palmrevolt before. After installation my smoothfonts were gone!!! Any idea of why was that? Also, i dont know but the skins are not working after that (no skinning at ALL)... should I uninstall PR? is it possible to use them both at the same time?
That is dangerous. I own both apps and switch between them using PowerRun. the method I use is

start PowerRun and move the current skinning app to the card
move the other skinning app from the card to RAM
start the skinning app in RAM and select the skin I wish to use
cyberdude
03-13-2006, 09:10 AM
I haven't tried and don't care to. You can certainly have them both loaded and since they require a reset after loading, I assume they both are in a sense active. I set the one I don't want to use to default skin and work with the other one exclusively.

The easiest way to undo whatever happened is to restore your backup (you did do a backup, right?), select the default skin in PR, and then install SkinUI and begin using. I'm using FontSmoother with both installed with no problems, using only one of them at the time.
I didn't know they would coexist so nicely - I may try that instead of the methos I outlined in my previous post.
Church Punk
03-13-2006, 09:16 AM
thnks guys, ill try again and let you know in a few... (and yes wellsjs, i did a backup ^^)
Church Punk
03-13-2006, 09:31 AM
yep, it works now. the aqua skin (imported) doesnt look well tho... but thanks for the help!
filber
03-13-2006, 09:40 AM
I am a bit... dumb. I installed the app and didnt disable palmrevolt before. After installation my smoothfonts were gone!!! Any idea of why was that? Also, i dont know but the skins are not working after that (no skinning at ALL)... should I uninstall PR? is it possible to use them both at the same time?

Hello, Church Punk, welcome to 1src. I had a similar problem with an earlier version on SkinUI and FontSmoother on my T|X. If I tried to use both at the same time, I would get the inevitable reset, and YAHM was simply wiped from RAM, hence the disabling of FontSmoother. If this is the problem you are having, I can positively say the problem was solved with the latest build of SkinUI. I tested extensively with other apps installed/uninstalled as well. A couple of real troublemakers were Codediver and SyncBack. Simply removing these last two helped stablize my T|X greatly, giving me less resets, and fewer times having to reload YAHM. So far, with this last build, I've had no problems at all with the two coexisting. I used PalmRevolt for the past couple of months, waiting for a new SkinUI build, and in that time I loaded up UDMH and UnCache, both of which I am 100% sure stablized my T|X tremendously.

Just thought I would post a bit of feedback. I'm happy SkinUI is working well again on my device.