View Full Version : PalmRevolt Causing Resets?
wellsjs
02-26-2006, 06:10 PM
Since installing the latest version of PalmRevolt (ver. 0.942b), I get resets when I go back to Palm OS Default with a PR skin loaded, not on every occasion, but too often to let it ride. Anyone else experiencing this?
Then, if I set (in preferences) the Color Theme to "Default Colors" and change colors in Palm OS's Preferences/General/Colors so that I have a blend of PR/Colors (which is a new feature of this release of PR), I get resets all over the place. Anyone confirm this?
bh77a
02-26-2006, 07:23 PM
Have you contacted Andrew? Version .942b is working on my TX. Have tried changing a few skins and not had any problems. Interested to see if this might be an issue with the CLIE line... not bashing you though on your TH-55 :).
Whenever I switch to a different skin, my T2 resets itself, but not with every skin. Funny, I thought this might be a normal thing, thinking the Palm needed to reset to get everything straight. :)
wellsjs
02-26-2006, 08:11 PM
Yes I have sent Andrew 2 bug reports! No response yet. Interesting that it's happening to a T2 and a Th55! Well, I guess we'll see what Andrew has to say.
bh77a
02-26-2006, 09:06 PM
Unfortunately, I spoke too soon. After testing a bit, my TX has the same problem. Will try (not tonight) to narrow down the problem with the settings. Will you try this as well, seeing which settings/themes may cause the issue? Are you given any errors? Unfortunately, my TX doesn't provide them.
wellsjs
02-26-2006, 09:38 PM
I am also suspicious that it might be individual skin related. My current one, PR_StealthOS_Blue, I have not been able to get it to crash. I haven't tried "stress testing" it with "Colors" turned on. I'll try a few other skins without colors turned on first to see if any of them crash.
I stick with v.0.941b until you guys sort out the problem.
dmitrygr
02-27-2006, 03:37 AM
I love how I dont have these problems :-P
docholliday
02-27-2006, 05:33 AM
No kidding Dmitry...neither do I!
I love how I dont have these problems :-P
Yes, but there are too many other problems that I have with skinUI. For example, I installed the latest update of skinUI on my T2, just to see if there were any improvements (for me, at least :D ) . I went to preview a skin and immediately crashed. Not only did it crash, but it seemed to have lost 500kb of memory. This happened even after I uninstalled PalmRevolt and performed a soft reset. The only way skinUI will work on my T2 is if I disable YAHM and Lightspeed. I don't want to do that. I can live with a PalmRevolt reset once in a while. At least I don't lose any memory when PR resets. :)
Best of luck with skinUI, dmitry! :)
wellsjs
02-27-2006, 08:42 AM
I love how I dont have these problems :-PI switched from skinUI to PR because importing PR skins changed things, primarily the menu text color, and when I brought that to your attention, you did not show concern toward correcting that. When, as a customer, I'm treated that way, if there is another option, I usually take it.
cyberdude
02-27-2006, 09:37 AM
I've so far stuck with 0.941b, because 0.942b crashed my T|X.
wellsjs
02-27-2006, 09:45 AM
I realize that a weekend was in the interval, but I gave my first report to Andrew last Friday, and I have not heard from him. :(
catzi
02-27-2006, 10:12 AM
I'm using 0.942b with my TX and haven't had any crashes. I'm using the default installation settings.
I tried a number of skins before settling on PR_Mako_Glass and didn't experience crashes with any of them.
I realize that a weekend was in the interval, but I gave my first report to Andrew last Friday, and I have not heard from him. :(
He'll get back to you. In the past, I've waited a few days to hear from him after I've sent him a skin for approval. He's a very busy guy, like Dmitry, with school and other things, but he eventually responds. He's usually very apologetic for getting back to me so late. :)
Chukar
02-27-2006, 10:28 AM
I am also suspicious that it might be individual skin related. My current one, PR_StealthOS_Blue, I have not been able to get it to crash. I haven't tried "stress testing" it with "Colors" turned on. I'll try a few other skins without colors turned on first to see if any of them crash.I don't get any craches with DBH's cobalt skin, so I suspect you may be right about it being skin related.
That's interesting, because I don't crash at all if I use that Cobalt skin...but, I crash when I select WinXP Silver...weird, I didn't do anything different to the format besides chsnging the bitmaps. I did both skins the same way. :confused:
wellsjs
02-27-2006, 11:07 AM
DBH,
When do your crashes occur? When exiting PR after changing a skin?
Yep, as soon as I make the switch, then go to ZL main screen.
edisong
02-27-2006, 12:37 PM
I get a reset when I use an application that uses Blue Fang to switch bluetooth on and then off. example: Launch 4cast (blue fang activates bluetooth), update forecast and then when I exit (blue fang disables bluetooth) to Zlauncher my palm resets. ANy one have the same issue? Will try with blue fang disabled?
jules3
02-27-2006, 01:15 PM
I have been having similar issues as DBH...when returning to Zlauncher screen by hitting the home button.
bh77a
02-27-2006, 01:36 PM
@ edisong,
What does your reset have to do with PalmRevolt?
wellsjs
02-27-2006, 01:47 PM
OK, I'm demented! :eek: Now I can't get PR to cause a reset at all! I've turned the "Color Theme" in PR to "Default Colors" which was causing resets all over the place before, and popped in and out of a bunch of different skins including WinXP Silver and cannot cause a reset. :confused: One thing I did, thinking it might be the conflicting app, was to uninstall PicselAccelerator. I still got some resets after uninstalling it last night, but today I have it now reinstalled. I wonder if someone who uses it could uninstall it, reset, run a few apps, reinstall it and see if you can get PalmRevolt to reset?
BuRnN
02-27-2006, 02:44 PM
for my self i never get any reset problem with both my T|E and T|T3
everything flow
edisong
02-27-2006, 03:03 PM
the resets only started when I installed palmrevolt and noticed that when i attempted updates to programmes via gprs followed by returning to zlauncher by hitting the home button
wellsjs
02-27-2006, 07:13 PM
Still no more resets . . . I am dumbfounded what was causing them and the only thing I can think of that cleared the problem, as I've already said, was uninstalling and reinstalling PicselAccelerator. DBH, anyone . . . find anything interesting?
Nope, still the same here.
kiteandcamera
02-27-2006, 10:37 PM
I downloaded PR 0.942b this morning after reading this thread. No resets on a Clie NX-80 also running ZLauncher. I tried switching several skins from the 3gx website, each one loaded fine. I only have two exclusions and tried fiddling with the color modes and could not break the app.
Since you have no reset, I tried PR 0.942b on my TH55. No resets on mine either including changing skins.
Would I able to change the button colors with this version? How?
Since installing the latest version of PalmRevolt (ver. 0.942b), I get resets when I go back to Palm OS Default with a PR skin loaded, not on every occasion, but too often to let it ride. Anyone else experiencing this?
Then, if I set (in preferences) the Color Theme to "Default Colors" and change colors in Palm OS's Preferences/General/Colors so that I have a blend of PR/Colors (which is a new feature of this release of PR), I get resets all over the place. Anyone confirm this?
I can go to Palm OS's Preferences/General/Colors and change the menu dropdown color, say from original blue to desert orange theme, even with ver.941b. So what do I not see in ver.942b?
wellsjs
02-28-2006, 12:58 AM
In PR Preferences, set "Color Theme" to "Default Colors." Then in Palm OS's Preferences/General/Colors choose a color with a colored background, like "Blue." You will now see the light blue background where applicable in applications. ;)
bobbd
02-28-2006, 05:23 AM
Slightly off topic here. What's the difference between "Leave untouched" and "Default colors"?
Bob
In PR Preferences, set "Color Theme" to "Default Colors." Then in Palm OS's Preferences/General/Colors choose a color with a colored background, like "Blue." You will now see the light blue background where applicable in applications. ;)
I can get the blue background with ver.941b too by just going to Prefs/General/Color/Blue, regardless whether I check or uncheck "Don't use skin's color theme" in PR Preferences. I have ver.941b in my TH55/E with this setting and ver.942b in my TH55/U with your setting. They both are looking the same.
BTW, I don't do anything with Picsel Accelerator. It is still in both TH55s. I just copy ver.942b in MS over to the ver.941b in TH55/U RAM.
wellsjs
02-28-2006, 08:58 AM
0.942 beta, 7 Feb 2006:
- Interface changed: added ability to choose color theme from Default colors, Skin's colors and third-party applications. This option is available globally and for particular application
- Interface changed: added ability to configure Field's look for particular application
- The maximum number of skins is increased (up to 100 skins)
- The algorithm for menu frame is little changed (affected on some skins)
- Bugfix: the McPhling menu was not erased completely
- Some other bugfixes The first bullet reads very similar to this one back in the .94 release: "Don't use skin's color theme" option added (can be applied to specific application or globally, allow to change interface colors from another program (Prefs, Butterfly etc.)) So the "colors" ability is not new, just improved I guess? :confused:
I think my problem may have been related to hotsyncing PicselAccelerator along with something else. Something that requires a reset most likely should be loaded by itself. Anyway, I still have been unable to break PR for the last 30 hrs. It's been rock solid. But, it appears DBH and a couple others are still experiencing resets when changing skins.
wellsjs
02-28-2006, 08:59 AM
Slightly off topic here. What's the difference between "Leave untouched" and "Default colors"?
BobHonestly, I have no idea. I haven't fooled with that setting at all.
...it appears DBH and a couple others are still experiencing resets when changing skins.
The thing is, it happens sporadically. I'm guessing it's another program that is triggering the reset.
wellsjs
02-28-2006, 02:36 PM
I think I found one. I have been changing PR skins/system colors relentlessly trying to break PR the last couple of days with no resets. Word Comp (By CIC) has never played well with NetFront. When entering text, either via graffiti or soft keyboard in a web text box, the auto word suggest feature of Word Comp causes a reset. After getting a couple of these, I turned Word Comp off, went back and finished my web text task. A little later, with Word Comp still off, I went to change from Gant PR skin to Palm OS Default and got a reset upon exiting PR. So it would appear another application triggered reset (in this case, Word Comp) may have caused the subsequent PR induced reset.
I always have Word Com on. Playing with NetFront and changing PR v.942b skins lead to no reset so far (fingers crossed).
jules3
03-02-2006, 03:53 PM
Anyone figure anything out about this?
wellsjs
03-02-2006, 04:01 PM
My resets are in spurts. I got an email from Andrew saying he would send me a debug file in a couple of days . . . very busy I guess. Haven't gotten the debug file yet. Other registered users might want to submit an error report on 3GX website to let him know it's more than just me. I did mention to Andy in my email about this thread (for him to read it).
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