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tosbsas

01-17-2006, 06:12 PM

PalmPDF Version 1.0!

Its finally out! Version 1.0 of PalmPDF has been released, and can now be found on Metaview’s website.

For those who have been in the dark lately, PalmPDF is the only free native PDF viewer for the Palm OS.

http://www.metaviewsoft.de/en/Software/PalmOS/Freeware/PalmPDF/index.html

Ruben

Greek

01-17-2006, 08:07 PM

Great job! :) I have one problem. I own a TX, turned On the Debug Log, and I can´t turn it back off, I unchecked the box, but it keeps showing the purple balloons showing the events. It slows the process (opening or closing takes much longer than it did before), so I want to turn it off but I can´t. Any suggestions? Thanks!

Regards,

MetaView

01-18-2006, 02:24 AM

The debug log settings aren't saved between two app runs. You should be able to just go back to your launcher and reopen PalmPDF to get rid of the debug output. Please contact me if this doesn't work. ANother approach is to remove and then reinstall PalmPDF. But this shouldn't n be needed. (Just imagine, I had to reinstall PalmPDF after I had checked something with DebugLog on...)

Regards
Henk

bobbd

01-18-2006, 06:24 AM

Congratulations Henk on the first "official" release. It is a lot faster. Cool.

Bob

SoS

01-18-2006, 07:59 AM

Congratulations Henk on the first "official" release. It is a lot faster. Cool.

Bob

a lot faster than which version....? Havent had chance to install 1.0 yet..

ntw, Ill add my thanks and congrats to Henk too :)

bobbd

01-18-2006, 10:56 AM

Faster than any previous version (0.9, 1.0rc1, 1.0rc2) as far as I can see. I've had speed problems with some pdfs because of the way they are coded. All the problem ones load reasonably fast. The ones that loaded fine before now load faster. These are 3 meg files and up.

Bob

SoS

01-18-2006, 11:07 AM

bobbd

01-18-2006, 12:59 PM

Please let us know what your experience is.

Bob

I love my mom

01-18-2006, 01:07 PM

I think the speed in greatly increased on my Zire 31 over all other versions.

SoS

01-18-2006, 04:21 PM

it is, indeed, most rapid.....joy must surely be collectively ours!!! :)

bobbd

01-18-2006, 07:56 PM

Absolutely - LOL^2

Ebookjunky

01-19-2006, 03:40 AM

So far it has crashed my hotsync twice and my handheld four times. I am not impressed.

swstar

01-19-2006, 05:50 AM

So far it has crashed my hotsync twice and my handheld four times. I am not impressed.

have you tried to install by card reader?
every version I install though card reader has no problem at all.

dsaroff

01-19-2006, 07:41 AM

I installed it on my LD and, I have to say, it works very sweetly! I can't understand why it has taken SO long for this to occur. It has a few interface glitches (the tool bar gets duplicated?!), but great. Once it renders, it is very fast and flexible. The author should win an award. I certainly WON'T be upgrading to D2G 8.

Now I wish someone would create a hacked version of G1 that doesn't crash Blazer!

Drunkard

01-19-2006, 10:28 AM

On my new T|E2 I have the same bug happen when I first installed this release, though it's the first I've seen this particular bug. I used NorthGlide Uninstall to completely remove the program, including the files in the PalmPDF folder on the card, then with a file manager copied the prc to RAM, and the files for the PalmPDF folder back into there folder, ran it and it worked fine after that, but I used the move to card feature again and the same bug occurs again. When I try to open any PDF, the screen says "Copying, please wait..." and then it goes back to the file list of my PDF files.

Palmípedo

01-19-2006, 10:55 AM

In my TE2 the 5 way navigator only moves the document up and down. Is this normal?

MetaView

01-19-2006, 02:23 PM

enotar, Drunkard: That PalmPDF doesn't start up the renderer is very strange, indeed. I've just uploaded a version with more debug output. Please have a test and tell me which black text you can see on the screen (if any at all).

Palmípedo: no, it isn't normal and it should work in all directions. Please also try the freshly uploaded file and switch on DebugLog. It will report the key you pressed. Then try left and right several times and close the app again. Send me then the file /PALM/Programs/PalmPDF_debug.log from your memory card.

Thanks
Henk

Drunkard

01-19-2006, 03:43 PM

Okay Henk, I hope this helps. I uninstalled the last version with Uninstall, and re-installed the newest version. When I first ran PalmPDF this time, without first turning on the debug log, it reported an "Error loading the PNOlet." when I try to open any PDF file.

By the way, I'm using the default settings for everything, which is zoom 65%, and Gray mode, AA checked, everything else unchecked except the debug log when I specify I turned it on. Oh, and I'm almost always trying to open the PalmPDF_ReadmM.pdf file included with PalmPDF since I expect that at least that PDF file should work.

So, when I turn on the debug log, it seems to work just fine, aside from spewing those wonderful purple blurbs on the screen, and a debug log is generated in the PalmPDF.

I then tried the move to card option again, and it will not open PDF files, and additionally reports the same "Error loading PNOlet." It also still says "Copying, please wait..." at that point on the screen. A debug log is NOT generated nor are any errors printed to the screen (d'uh) and it returns to the file list view, after tapping the OK button to close the error dialog.

Worse yet, I haven't been able to reproduce either of these bugs following the same procedure I outlined above. I uninstalled and re-installed PalmPDF two more times, and after using the "move to card" feature and NOT enabling the debug log, I have been able to open PDF files without any problems now.

As you said Henk, this is very strange, indeed.

I think this is related to the NVFS/DBCache in some manner, and I asy that because in between the first install where I encountered the PNOLet error, and the last two attempted installs, I received a Fatal Alert relating to NVFSDBCache being corrupted and which forced a manual soft-reset. After that soft-reset, and with two installs of PalmPDF later, I haven't had either problem again. Curious, don't you agree?

Oh, and the debug log entries when I tap left or right keys on the d-pad are below.

For left button:

00183629: key: 00040000 keyBitLeft: 01000000 keyBitRight: 02000000

and for right button:

00183824: key: 00080000 keyBitLeft: 01000000 keyBitRight: 02000000

Hope that helps too. Thanks for your hard work Henk, I can't imagine how much time you've already put into PalmPDf, but thank you again!

Palmípedo

01-19-2006, 04:23 PM

My log file is

00192897: PalmPDF 1.0
00192915: display_width: 320
00192935: display_height: 320
00192954: display_pitch: 320
00192973: display_density: 144
00192992: hwflags: 0x00000023
00193011: open: /Curso PRL/Tema 1/UD.1.pdf
00193029: zoom: 4
00193055: page: 6
00193073: scroll_x: 136
00193091: scroll_x_even: 0
00193110: scroll_y: 552
00193128: step_x: 32
00193146: step_y: 32
00193164: even_uneven: 0
00193182: color: 1
00193200: call_what: 0
00193219: invers: 0
00193298: lookup page 1
00193316: free ram: 2871/2163 KByte
00193337: lookup page 2
00193355: free ram: 2870/2163 KByte
00193375: lookup page 3
00193394: free ram: 2869/2163 KByte
00193414: lookup page 4
00193432: free ram: 2868/2163 KByte
00193453: lookup page 5
00193471: free ram: 2867/2163 KByte
00193491: lookup page 6
00193510: free ram: 2866/2163 KByte
00193530: lookup page 7
00193548: free ram: 2865/2163 KByte
00193569: lookup page 8
00193587: free ram: 2864/2163 KByte
00193607: lookup page 9
00193626: free ram: 2863/2163 KByte
00193646: lookup page 10
00193665: free ram: 2862/2163 KByte
00193685: lookup page 11
00193704: free ram: 2861/2163 KByte
00193724: lookup page 12
00193743: free ram: 2860/2163 KByte
00193763: lookup page 13
00193781: free ram: 2859/2163 KByte
00193802: lookup page 14
00193820: free ram: 2858/2163 KByte
00193840: lookup page 15
00193859: free ram: 2857/2163 KByte
00193879: lookup page 16
00193897: annots array: 4
00193916: free ram: 2856/2163 KByte
00193936: lookup page 17
00193955: free ram: 2855/2163 KByte
00193975: lookup page 18
00193993: free ram: 2854/2163 KByte
00194014: lookup page 19
00194033: free ram: 2853/2163 KByte
00194053: lookup page 20
00194071: free ram: 2852/2163 KByte
00194092: lookup page 21
00194111: free ram: 2851/2163 KByte
00194131: lookup page 22
00194150: free ram: 2850/2163 KByte
00194170: lookup page 23
00194188: free ram: 2849/2163 KByte
00194209: lookup page 24
00194228: free ram: 2848/2163 KByte
00194248: lookup page 25
00194266: free ram: 2847/2163 KByte
00194287: lookup page 26
00194305: free ram: 2846/2163 KByte
00194326: lookup page 27
00194344: free ram: 2845/2163 KByte
00194364: lookup page 28
00194383: annots array: 2
00194401: free ram: 2844/2163 KByte
00194421: lookup page 29
00194439: free ram: 2843/2163 KByte
00194459: lookup page 30
00194478: annots array: 8
00194496: free ram: 2841/2163 KByte
00194516: lookup page 31
00194535: free ram: 2840/2163 KByte
00194553: Catalog ready
00194622: free ram: 2220/1673 KByte
00197164: free ram: 1962/1673 KByte
00198908: EvtGetPen down: 0 x 4 y 153 PenMove down: 1 x 4 y 153
00198960: EvtGetPen down: 0 x 4 y 153 PenMove down: 1 x 4 y 153

When the file is opened, first i pick left and right four times each one and then up an down four or five times too. The up an down works but left and right not.
:o

MetaView

01-19-2006, 04:46 PM

Drunkard, I also suspect the DBCache to interfer here. Can you run the DBCacheTool and tell me how big the cache is on a E2? Also, please try to see if the left/right keys work now.

Regard
Henk

PS: that's the last thing for today, I'm tired :-)

URL-DBCacheTool: http://www.jade.dti.ne.jp/~imazeki/palm/DBcT/

Palmípedo: You did the key pressing too early, the event-loop of the renderer wasn't up and running :-) But try the freshly uploaded version, if the keys are working now.

Drunkard

01-19-2006, 04:57 PM

Henk,

The DBCacheTool reports:

Cache (Heap) size: 9436912
Free: 4324952
Max alloc: 1876624

Sleep well Henk! :D

Palmípedo

01-19-2006, 05:02 PM

I used the last version, just downloaded a few minutes before the post. I waited for the ready display an the up-down works but not the left-right even seconds after the ready display. All the other hard keys worked properly. What i'm doing wrong? I can't understand, in the older versions the horizontal didn't worked too.

Drunkard

01-19-2006, 05:06 PM

Wow, I just ran the DBCacheTool again only this time I have disabled anything that I could think of (ZLauncher, Hi-Launcher, OnGuard Backup specifically) and did a soft-reset.

Now it reports:

Cache (Heap) size: 9436912
Free: 5251728
Max alloc: 5232496

Quite a difference that makes. I wondered why some apps crash when launched from inside ZLauncher.

MetaView

01-20-2006, 02:18 AM

Ok, any changes regarding E2 keys?

Palmípedo

01-20-2006, 09:17 AM

Ok, any changes regarding E2 keys?

No, seems that left and right are not detected, waiting after the ready msg of course. Only works the up and down. :(

Drunkard

01-20-2006, 10:58 AM

Ok, any changes regarding E2 keys?

I can confirm the left and right keys do no scroll the view on my E2 either.

CLOS420

01-20-2006, 12:26 PM

So Does Anyone Have This Working On A Ux50?

MetaView

01-20-2006, 12:31 PM

Ok, now try this :-)

Vetdoctor

01-20-2006, 12:37 PM

I have a Treo 600 and have downloaded and installed the PDF viewer, no problems there. Apparently though even if I do a hard reset and load only PDF viewer I have only some 2700 KB dynamic memory free. Not enough to make the doc's bigger than 65 % in grayscale. Can't really read much that way.

Is this real? Is it likely that my machine will only give me that much memory? I don't think I would download the memory enhancer. Viewing PDF's is not my main function in life and not having damaged memory elsewhere is a big deal.

MetaView

01-20-2006, 12:48 PM

Unfortunately, the Treo 600 hasn't much dynamic RAM. UDMH might your only chance at the moment.

Drunkard

01-20-2006, 12:51 PM

WORKS!!!

The left/right buttons now scroll on my T|E2, awesome Henk.

_Em

01-20-2006, 01:01 PM

If anyone has a copy of LJP, try going into one of the config menus and pressing the L and R buttons to see the result codes. On my T|X, L is 00040000 and R is 00080000 just like Drunkard reported; these are not the default values, which display NavLeft and NavRight (not sure what the actual codes are). I'd guess there are at least two sets of keycodes out there for L and R.

Palmípedo

01-20-2006, 01:25 PM

Ok Now works in all directions.
Congratulations you are doing a great job!

Are you thinking in translating the program to other languages?

MetaView

01-20-2006, 01:26 PM

the problem is, the E2 reports to have the nav-codes but in fact, the device sends out rocker codes.

Add: Translation, I might start to think about.

Palmípedo

01-20-2006, 02:06 PM

I´m spanish, if you want i can translate the mensages.

MetaView

01-21-2006, 06:28 AM

I will announce it here when I have a list with strings ready.

mikle820forex

01-21-2006, 02:22 PM

Henk,

i really appreciate your effort in making the PalmPDF, it helps a lot. anyway, just one question, can you convert Locked PDF files to a palm doc using the PalmPDF? i see no option to do this... and if its not possible are you planning to support this feature?

thanks,
mike

MetaView

01-21-2006, 03:43 PM

You can convert any PDF which is allowed to convert to text (copy-allowed) into a PalmDOC. The menu is your friend.

mikle820forex

01-21-2006, 05:04 PM

sori i dont understand.

you mean in the PDF file itself, i need to set it the document properties first to allow to copy the content of the pdf? (if yes, sori i dont have a professional edition of the adobe reader, i only have version 7)

MetaView

01-22-2006, 03:50 AM

NOpe, the creator of the document has to allow it. PalmPDF honors the restriction flags, the creator has put into the file. If copy is allowed you can select the file and then select PalmDOC in the menu of PalmPDF.

alex_lorenzo

01-22-2006, 05:30 AM

I am using v1.0 in a T3. I have used landscape mode to improve readability (larger fonts but still full wide page) but I have noticed that the buttons behave as with portrait mode, instead of changing orientation as well. Not really serious, but it could be more convenient (I am used to this from other applications, and just expected the same behaviour).
Thanks

gooselab

01-22-2006, 07:55 AM

I'm having a little trouble with bookmarking on my TX. When I select a PDF document with quite a few bookmarks in it and open the bookmark window, I find that the text is progressively moved to the right as one goes down the bookmark selections. Eventually, all I see are lines filled with ">>>>>>>>>>>>>>" with the text completely pushed off to the right and out of sight. Is there some way I can scroll to the right to see those bookmarks?
Henk, do you have any plans of improving bookmark presentation?

MetaView

01-22-2006, 04:44 PM

alex: please use the OS staus bar icon to rotate to landscape inside!!!!! the file browser. When you rotate the render display inside the PDF renderer you will get a bit strange button experience. But hte rotated view inside the renderer is especially made for devices which doesn't support the usual landscape orientation. I might later fix some more issues with that. But anyway, it's really more convenient to do it using the OS stauts bar icon.

gooselab: Yes, I've heard about, have to recheck it and will fix it.

mastezone

01-23-2006, 10:06 AM

Hi MEta, I just donwloaded the 1.0 version...so great! the speedup compared with Documents to go it's fantastisc! so greatings to you...I've seen that there are no problem with "files" app on my T5.

Only one problem...during normal use of PalmPDF I found some problem with the main bar of T5...some times the original PALM main bar appairs and your PALM PDF bar remain above, and it's impossible continue to use it...I try to replicate the problem and I found that avery time I clic on "go to page" or some other internal windows of palmPDF, the Palm main bar appears...

Thanks :)

Mz

MetaView

01-23-2006, 01:21 PM

05Edge

01-23-2006, 01:58 PM

Hi Meta, Great program, thanks!

mastezone

01-23-2006, 02:32 PM

Hi mastezone: I've heard about. PalmPDF should be still workable, as it should still react on the stylus taps. It's a braindead implementation of the status bar, which is very different in each and every devcie. I only have 3 devices here for tests. I'm missing T5 and LD, unfortunately.

Regards
Henk

Hi Meta, I understand you, is impossible to have all device to test software :)
Anyway...I hoep you can fix some issue about "appearing bar"..if you like, I can make the interface for you...I worked on TCPMP interface but time ago I wasn't able to continue for few time left:

http://www.c4dzone.it/clienti/tcpmp/t5.jpg

If you need I can make a graphical bar for your software, I'm a 3D graphic developer...
Anyway, I've tested some pdf with colour rendering on my T5...your software is moore speedup of documents to go pdf reader...believe me...

Mz

MetaView

01-24-2006, 04:52 AM

mastezone: cool stuff, yeah. The TCPMP bar looks nice.

I will have to rewrite it to use a graphical bar. Best would be you send me an email and we work together in this. There is also a German Palm forum where the owner wants to make a contest for a new buttons :-) Wouldn't be bad if the user could have a broughter selection of interface bars.

Regards
Henk

Paavels

01-24-2006, 05:10 AM

MetaView

01-24-2006, 06:11 AM

Paavels, what's DjVu, btw?

mastezone

01-24-2006, 06:27 AM

Paavels

01-24-2006, 09:22 AM

Paavels, what's DjVu, btw?
here :)
http://www.djvuzone.org/wid/index.html
its like pixel based pdf with very small files
and very good for some book with lots of pictures, graphics, diagrams, blueprints, formulas and etc.

artherstrasse

01-24-2006, 12:14 PM

Just installed per Read Me file on a TX.

Very nice.

I did notice one issue - not a big deal. I make pdf's from screen shots, using the Print command (Apple) and downsizing them (again, Print command, Apple). I've noticed one file would not open in PalmPDF. I recreated and resync'd the file several times but it still would not open. I then deleted the file from the directory on the opening page of PalmPDF. Once this was done, the new file opened just fine. Really strange as I saved the file under a different name and it would still not open until I deleted the original.

I have not tortured the product or tried every combination of buttons but, I have opened lot's of PDF's and read them all just fine. I was able to navigate all over the place, change zoom on the fly and go through all of the menu's. Other than the above paragraph, which was more than acceptable, the product is solid.

Nice job.

jjesusfreak01

01-24-2006, 03:12 PM

here :)
http://www.djvuzone.org/wid/index.html
its like pixel based pdf with very small files
and very good for some book with lots of pictures, graphics, diagrams, blueprints, formulas and etc.
Now thats a cool format. I want it, I want it!

rei

01-28-2006, 05:46 PM

I can't install it on my TE2, it quits halfway during PInstall with Error -1 (ffffffff)

Drunkard

01-28-2006, 07:02 PM

PamPDF works on my TE|2, so I recommend you maybe re-download it.

rei

01-28-2006, 11:21 PM

i had lots of space left, and even tried after soft reset, but it must have had something to do with heap memory. i had to put it on sd card and transfer it over using filez.

MetaView

01-29-2006, 03:38 AM

If you are not going to receive PDF files, I would recommend to let it on the SD Card :-)

rei

01-29-2006, 12:28 PM

I had 10 MB RAM left or so and it would not Hotsync over at all, but gave me that cryptic error. I had to play it safe by soft-resetting, and then using a program to manually copy it off. Afterwards I could install it and then use the internal function to move parts of it onto the SD card.

Telyx

01-30-2006, 06:38 AM

Sounds like it might be a problem with PInstall and NVFS (or heap) and large files.

DanT

02-02-2006, 10:32 AM

Wow, it works! :cool:

I tried PalmPDF 1.0 after not able to see anything from PicselViewer for viewing US Patent PDF files (2.2 MB, 44 pages or even a smaller 700KB, 12 pages) and PalmPDF is a winner this time :D

PicselViewer gave me a blank 44 pages and 12 pages of those UPS PDF files. PDFToGo either it took a long time or came out with a popup saying insufficient memory. PalmPDF has no problem displaying both files. It is slow opening with my slow TH55, but it is relatively fast in comparison to PDFToGo, which is like watching the grasses grow :rolleyes:

DanT

02-12-2006, 10:34 AM

Cannot Exit PalmPDF

I recently restored my TH55 and reinstalled PalmPDF, but for some reason the status bar (SB) would not display below PalmPDF file manager when I first open PalmPDF. So there is no SB Home button to tap to exit, just the "Show" button at the bottom of the screen. :confused:

When I select a file and tap the "Show" button to open the PDF file, the SB is displayed, below the PalmPDF toolbar. That status bar is used to be hidden and replaced by PalmPDF toolbar. Tapping SB Home or "X" button on PalmPDF toolbar only bring me back to the PalmPDF file manager, i.e., no button to
tap for exit.

Some how the SB display got flip between the PalmPDF file manager and open file GUI. Has anyone experience this and know how to fix it?

Thanks,
Dan

Mike Chicago

02-14-2006, 02:05 AM

Awesome software. Thanks. It's the new best friend on my LifeDrive. One small problem: I am not able to change the default zoom from 65 percent. No matter what I change it to in Options, it always initially shows me the PDF at 65 percent. I had this problem in the previous version too.

vasma

02-14-2006, 07:29 AM

Dear Henk & MetaVieSoft, congratulations for the PalmPDF, it's one, from my favorite program on my Treo 650.

MetaView

02-15-2006, 01:43 AM

Mike Chicago: PalmPDF stores the settings for the last 5 files, when you open a file once and later change the default zoom, it will not open with this zoom value but with the zoom value it was formerly open. Also at the moment, PalmPDF does not store the zoom value but the selection in the zoom popup list. Means, open the file, change the zoom step in the zoom popup list and close the file. Next time it will be open with this setting.

Regards
Henk

swstar

02-15-2006, 07:04 PM

I am using PalmPDF 1.0 (final release)
My machine is palmOne Tungsten T3

I've installed all fonts in SD CARD
/PALM/Programs/PalmPDF/
and the main program to
/PALM/Launcher/
and moved the reading engine to card.

I tried to open a Traditional Chinese PDF and a Japanese PDF
the characters didn't show properly in the Chinese PDF
and there is no correct font for the Japanese one.

Any clues?

I'm not avalible to capture a screenshot due to key mapping of palmpdf
is one the most top layer and other apps don't respond, also I don't
have a DC to take a photo for it.

p.s. attached testing pdf,
test.pdf contains chinese chars (t & s) and also japanese [jap & s.chi
shows perfect but t.chi does not]
winny.pdf contains jap chars [no font found]

http://kit1021.no-ip.info:7777/swstar/temp/TEST.PDF
http://kit1021.no-ip.info:7777/swstar/temp/Winny.pdf

MetaView

02-16-2006, 01:54 AM

swstar: I've got your email and the files. But could only test them on the desktop Acrobat reader. The test.pdf looks a bit different between desktop and PalmPDF. I don't know why it looks different. Did you ever test it with Xpdf? I will try to find a reason but it's very hard, as I don't know chinese and therefore the chars look all the same for me.

The Winny.pdf doesn't even open correctly on my desktop. I would recommend to embedd the needed fonts in the file.

Regards
Henk

swstar

02-16-2006, 06:43 AM

MetaView: I think it is too difficult for me even to install Xpdf on windows. So I've never tried to open it in Xpdf

In test.pdf, first line is t.chi<shows monster char>, second line is s.chi<correct>, the sixth line is japanese<correct>.
encode environment t.chi winxp pro, t.chi office03, pdf995 printer

In winny.pdf, all are japanese but I'm not sure what fonts are used as I'm not the one to encode the file. When I open it with adobe reader 7, it asks me to download font plugins in order to display the file correctly.

MetaView

02-18-2006, 02:10 PM

ok, it is even worse in Xpdf. But it might be also a configuration problem. It didn't show any japanese or chineses chars, neither in test.pdf nor in winny.pdf. Also it complains about winny.pdf having the wrong version number, 1.6, but Xpdf only supports up to 1.5. I might have a look intotest.pdf one time and try to get the correct chars displayed, but any fiel like winny.pdf is out of look. It must at least embedd such fonts to be viewable correctly.

Regards
Henk

swstar

02-19-2006, 09:09 AM