How old is the typical tg-50 user?

[plessdude]

I know that they are trying to market this PDA to more of a business market so I am wondering how old the typical person using this device is here. I am 28.

[yOyOYoo]

I am 21 =)

[JGCcom]

i m 22

[Ah9]

28 here

[plessdude]

28 here
Ha we must be related :)

[Dougf]

I am 30

[plessdude]

Damn Doug your pretty old:)

[jhason]

28 here.

[Sneezy]

eh, um, eh...just turned 30 too. Oh, the agony.

[T1000X]

I'm a 23 year old PDA user, and all except my Visor Deluxe I bought on my own.

[wilsonch_98]

24,
to follow T1000X disclosure, I previously own Visor Platinum

[wilsonch_98]

preliminary conclusion, PDA responsive age 20-30

[T1000X]

My Mom has a T415 she uses, and she is (dare I say?) 58. If she saw this, she'd kill me! Sorry Mom!

Thankfully she hasn't been turned on to cliesource yet.

[alan98]

18 years old here

[tiwee]

I am 26 years old! :cool:

[jamesj1k]

23 years young

[wilsonch_98]

if how many "years old" is count from zero, then what would be "years young" be? maybe from 100....
then 100-23=73 yr old?!

:D just joking jamesj1k

[MikeRiegel]

Sneezy, I feel you...just busted the big three-oh myself...

I have to quote Dr. Jones here:

"It ain't the years, sweetheart, it's the mileage..."

Feelin' like I just busted five-oh...

[ngwailung]

I'm the oldest one, I'm 32. TG50 is more attractive to me than the NZ and NX.

[Baker1369]

19.

[clevewaterman]

Birthday: Jan 12, 1949 Age 54

Boy, do I feel old!

Anyway, I own both an NX70 and a TG50. The NX is my primary PDA. I'm developing content for the Flash player, so I got the TG because of the more advanced player. I don't have the nerve to try porting the player from the TG to the NX.

[jwang0416]

22 yrs old....

[plessdude]

@ clevewaterman

I did not know the TG had a punch card reader :)

[tantousha]

I'm one of the young'ns...I'm only 18...only 18 and I've already own a Visor Neo, a Treo 90 and soon a TG50...:D

[dseiden]

32 years old here.. 9th Palm device and loving it... built in bluetooth is great.

DAN

[A1CPete]

21, and at the current rate that I'm swapping out pda's every year, I'm decidedly afraid at how much money I'll have pumped through the consumer electronics market by the time I'm 30 or 54.

I seem to, in the last few years have settled on clies though.

[danno]

Can't decide if i should feel bad cause I'm old (49) or cool cause I'm hanging out with the rest of you young dudes.

[sonyfan]

I'm 44. By the way, I run around the lakes, play tennis, lift weights, and play softball so no wise cracks. Just kidding! Seriously, I like cliesource because age is pretty irrelevant to most of the discussions. I have been a pda user since two and a half years ago I started with a visor solo. The TG is a pretty nice upgrade.

later,

sonyfan

[wilsonch_98]

Originally posted by plessdude
@ clevewaterman

I did not know the TG had a punch card reader :)

Oh you don't? just try to push in some generic punch card into the slot strangely named "Memory Stick", then you can have fun.

:D

[Jeffry]

I think Sony failed to target the device to business execs... which is around what? 35 years old?

:p

[Kesh]

27 here.

[Unregistered]

Originally posted by Jeffry
I think Sony failed to target the device to business execs... which is around what? 35 years old?

:p

Hmmm ... then that'd be right on the money for me. I'm 33, turning 34 in less than 30 days.

I agree - this is a killer unit for a traveling businessperson. I'm having a ball doing stuff through my t68i with it....

[yOyOYoo]

I wonder how old the typical "unregistered" poster is...

haha jk

[caudax]

heh, im 13 ive had a Vidor Deluxe, Platinum, Neo, Edge (I won) e310, T665 and TG50. All but first 2 visors i bought on my own.


Caudex

[Unregistered]

I am 18 years old and I've owned a palm m100, m125, Tungsten T and now a superb TG50.

cheers,

BDB

[JoeT]

38 here. (Quite a good user response!)

Owned about a dozen Palms and CE devices beginning with the PalmPilot Professional, ending (so far!) with the TG-50, and I gotta say, in my opinion this is THE killer PDA for me because it has everything I've wanted since I had my first PDA:
Palm OS
built-in keyboard
tablet formfactor
small and thin
jogdial
back button
voice recorder
awesome color and clarity
fast secondary storage

Is it perfect? No. I would like the jogdial more protruded, the ability to control the keyboard backlighting (there are times I would like it not to turn off at night, and I would like to turn it off during the day), the ability to have the round buttons power the device on and off, and a nice tight leather flip case. But in time, most of these will happen. As I've stated, I've been through a dozen or so PDAs over the years, and this little bugger is the best so far. With every other PDA there's always been a much stronger "it's awesome but if only it had..." factor. Not so with this one. Closest thing to perfection so far, in my 38 year old opinion!

[plessdude]

Wow the ages are pretty much all over the place. Its nice to see some of you 40+ guys adopting this stuff. I tried for years to convince my older relatives to abandon their Day Timers and make the switch. I have been using a PDA since I bought my first Newton back in 94. Its pretty funny that even then I was lusting for a color device that was pocketable with high speed always on access. Although the Palm W and Treo have come close I am still lusting after that same device!

[TreoRenegade]

Originally posted by plessdude
Wow the ages are pretty much all over the place. Its nice to see some of you 40+ guys adopting this stuff
"40+" guy-ette ;)
Nice to see you youngin's as well :D

(To the poster who coughed up his (her?) Mom's age-- I'm a gonna find her, and tell on ya .....)


TreoRenegade
------------------
Previous:
- Casio E125 PocketPC
- Handera 330
- Treo90
Current:
- Blackberry 950
- Sony TG50
- (Samsung a310 cell)

[nosser714]

I'm 23 and I changed over from an hp ppc to a tg-50

[d4rthsid]

I'm 18 and one of the few ppl here at ASU that have/use PDA's in class. I got a Visor Edge for graduation last year, and then the screen cracked a little over a month later:( So then I had to upgrade to a color screen, after i discovered that I could replace it with a new one from ebay, and it'd be that same as a screen replacement. So I got the ClieT615c, and had that for a little less than a year, and its time to upgrade. I'll be buying my TG50 soon, mainly because of Bluetooth.

Greetings from Arizona State University!

[paxton]

27

;-)

[danno]

I'm one of the over 40's. My first PDA was from Sharp way before the Palm. Interestingly enough it had a keyboard and accepted RAM programs (spreadsheet, travel program). I still have it somewhere (although I don't think it works anymore.) I think I bought it in the mid 90's or maybe earlier. Next was the first Palm. Last was a Handspring Visor Deluxe which I pre-purchased (one of the first 100 people to call they day they went on sale.) I gave that to my ex a couple of weeks ago after I purchased the TG -50. (Payback)

[plessdude]

My first PDA was from Sharp way before the Palm. Interestingly enough it had a keyboard and accepted RAM programs (spreadsheet, travel program)

Was it a Wizard or a Zaurus? I used to love my Wizard! It had 128k which was unheard of back then.

[chrislee2000]

I'm surprised that the majority of the users are in 20's. I'm 38. I never thought that I was old. I still feel very young at heart.

[Psamtik]

I just turned 20, and I was transferring schools this year from a small college to pop. 25,000 Colorado State, and figured a Palm to keep me organized wouldn't hurt, and I had the money for at T615. Then I traded up for a T665. When that broke (hint:Don't sit on it) I got my TG50 under warranty. I cannot believe I lived this long without the Flash player! I carry StrongBad everywhere with me now!!

[shaunkanak]

@34 I suppose I'm approaching senior citizen status in this forum. I've been contemplating trading in the ol' Franklin planner for the past couple years and the TG-50 finally convinced me to make the move. The fear of having to learn grafitti had me leaning toward PPC but the cost of the full featured models held me back. These new palms w/ keyboard were just what I needed. The TG-50 in my estimation is the best balance of performance/features/price.

[s_n_m]

16...

I guess that makes me the youngest!

And if you are wondering I buy all my stuff myself, unlike some people I know whose parents shell out all their cash...

[Unregistered]

Originally posted by Psamtik
I just turned 20, and I was transferring schools this year from a small college to pop. 25,000 Colorado State, and figured a Palm to keep me organized wouldn't hurt, and I had the money for at T615. Then I traded up for a T665. When that broke (hint:Don't sit on it) I got my TG50 under warranty. I cannot believe I lived this long without the Flash player! I carry StrongBad everywhere with me now!!

Oh yeah....I can carry strongbad with me now...show the hundreds of people the humour of it.

[Jeffry]

Originally posted by s_n_m
16...

I guess that makes me the youngest!

And if you are wondering I buy all my stuff myself, unlike some people I know whose parents shell out all their cash...

I'm 16 also... but I have an NR :p

[Jake K]

And I'm 15 and I had a T665.

[danno]

Wizard. The coolest thing was the it self closed and locked. No need for a case and you really didn't need to worry about dropping it.

[mvfrancisco]

25...

Symbol SPT1500 > Handspring Visor > Palm VII > Sony PEG-N710C > Sony TG-50

btw, what phones are people using? StarTac > Nokia 8890 > T68

The Clie did a good job of hooking me on Sony, since I got my first clie, I've bought a Sony camera, Vaio and the T68....

I feel so used... :p

[T1000X]

Originally posted by TreoRenegade

(To the poster who coughed up his (her?) Mom's age-- I'm a gonna find her, and tell on ya .....)


Ehh, that's not funny. She would hurt me! Please don't tell!

[Baker1369]

there's a fourteen year old kid who bought his own nr somewhere around here...that blows my mind...I thought 20 dollars was a lot when I was 14... I can't imagine what I would do if I had 4 or 5 hundred.

[tantousha]

Oh I know...when I was fourteen my parents bought me a computer (even though it wasn't entirely mine) and the concept of buying something for $4000 seemed like the biggest amount of money I've ever seen. It made me feel like we were poor and it was my fault...teehee...now I'm in college and I know how fast even $1000 can go by....sometimes you can even hear it fly by...:D

[mugwump]

At 55, sounds like I'm 2nd oldest - yikes !!:D

I've had a Visor Deluxe, Visor Platinum, Clie N760C and now the TG50.

If, as your original post said, Sony's after the business market, then how many of the umm, younger posters are "the business market" ??

On the other hand, I'm in business - but not everything on my PDA is business-oriented. And until somebody makes a PDA that I can actually read e-mail or a Web page on, I'm not going to be using it too much for those functions.

Interesting thread . . .

[teda]

I'm in the middle of the pack, 25 yrs old, but I've owned a Pilot 1000, IIIx, N760 and now the TG50.

[teda]

Hah! Now all I need is a hard camo case to so that I can wear it under my BDU top!

[plessdude]

Any females use these? I see a few on the board but I guess the PDA is still a guy thing. I once dated a chick who had a Palm but her favorite progam was the one that made the screen black so you could use it as a mirror. I am surprised that there isn't a Palm geared towards women. (Not counting the Zire which uses females in a lot of their print media) I guess you could put a mirror on the inside of the TG flip. Or how about a stylus/lip liner?

[T1000X]

Originally posted by plessdude
Any females use these? I see a few on the board but I guess the PDA is still a guy thing. I once dated a chick who had a Palm but her favorite progam was the one that made the screen black so you could use it as a mirror. I am surprised that there isn't a Palm geared towards women. (Not counting the Zire which uses females in a lot of their print media) I guess you could put a mirror on the inside of the TG flip. Or how about a stylus/lip liner?

LOL! That is so wrong on so many levels...

There have been special edition Palm Vs in the past that came in blue and pink metallic colors.

As for the Clie line, why doesn't sony make a nice metallic pink colored TG50? I'm sure it would sell like HotCakes!

[A1CPete]

Teda: You're in the military? What branch? I'm Air Force or as the iraqis know us, Terror of the skies

[teda]

USAF as well, Reservist on active duty, doing military funeral honors, but standing by to be called up still

[falafel]

21

[Unregistered]

14 I guess that makes me the youngest, but I still have some creds:
Palm IIIc
Clie N760c
Palm m505
Palm i705
Palm Tungsten T
Clie Tg50
Paid for all myself 'cept the IIIc (10yrs old) thanks to summer jobs and ebay

[Jake K]

Back then, the IIIc was almost $800 in Canada!

[daborderz87]

I think it was something like $300 +
ps im unregistered (forgot to login

[olrac]

gradpa here is 51

[kusumo]

29 and just switched from the very first Clie S300!

[TreoRenegade]

Originally posted by tantousha
__________________
Goodbye my lovely Treo 90 :(
Hello TG50!! :D
Comrade!!! :D

TreoRenegade
-------------------
...And I *thought* "noffin" would EVAH beat my Treo90!
40+ OldHead
(No, I won't tell Momma that you coughed up her age in a public forum ;))

[TreoRenegade]

Originally posted by plessdude
Any females use these? I see a few on the board but I guess the PDA is still a guy thing. {snip} I guess you could put a mirror on the inside of the TG flip. Or how about a stylus/lip liner?
Yes, dear, females do use the Tg50. And without the lip liner or mirror. Imagine!

TreoRenegade
------------------
Live brain cells, puh-leeeeease.
(Don't get hyper. I'm funnin' ya.;))

[alan98]

Originally posted by kusumo
29 and just switched from the very first Clie S300!

Same here. Friend.....
My first device was the S300....Work hard for it...My first paycheque.
Then it was an toshiba e310.....pay for it myself,
Then it was an Ipaq 3870....same
and now My TG-50...also paid by myself.

Love the clies...so proud of them as I see them evolve.....

[The Professor]

I'm 42 and using bifocals. Started out with the Casio B.O.S.S. back in 1989.:D

[plessdude]

The Casio....I forgot about that one. I bought that in 87 from the Sharper Image. I think that was my first PDA! Ahh a trip down PDA lane.

[killah fury]

I'm 25... I'm just about to buy a TG-50 which will be my 8th Palm OS machine (Palm III, Palm IIIx, Palm Vx, m505 x 2, Clie 770C, Clie T665C)

[Unregistered]

38
Sharp Wizard 1993
Sharp Something else 1995
Palm IIIc
Palm Vx
Compaq Ipaq 3635
Sony Clie TG50

[tantousha]

I've seen you around the Palminfocenter boards...and possibly the Treocentral boards. At any rate, miss your Treo? I don't think I'm going to, but I do miss my blue neo...

Originally posted by TreoRenegade

Comrade!!! :D

TreoRenegade
-------------------
...And I *thought* "noffin" would EVAH beat my Treo90!
40+ OldHead
(No, I won't tell Momma that you coughed up her age in a public forum ;))

[WGSquallx2002]

I guess I'm the youngest one here. I'm a 17 year old senior graduate of high school. I'm having fun with my PDA but can't find much productiveness with it yet. I'm afraid many schools sun the use of electronic devices and other related what-nots. It'd be nice if I could use my pda in class, but bring it out with its flashy bluetooth lights would cause attraction, jealousy, and probably jeopardy of my TG50. At my age, you can say my "want" overhwelmed my "need," but I'm paying back my parents for their contribution for me getting this unit in the summer! :) I'm not that spoiled after all, though owning this does make me spoiled.

[hughden]

My average age is 54. yeah that is old; but surely good news to know that you can still enjoy toys as you get older!! I also enjoy a Nokia 3650, a 20GB iPOd, a Sony digital camera, Mini-Z racing cars and too many other toys to mention!
Life begins at 50!

[swinter]

Originally posted by Sneezy
eh, um, eh...just turned 30 too. Oh, the agony.

LOL, just turned 50.

[ScottM]

I'm 24. (i think).

From Malaysia !

[joesort]

34

casio BOSS - died in a puddle of milk >> Palm Pilot 1000 - sold >> Palm Pilot Professional - gave away >> Visor Deluxe - Gave away >> Visor Prism - my wife has it >> Clie T665 - fell into a (clean) toilet (I dried it out and it still works!) >> TG50

[Eduardo]

39 and counting...

Eduardo

[quintuss]

Although i'm not yet a TG50 owner.

My past PDA's: Atari Portfolio ( i guess that counts too :) )Palm m100, Palm IIIc, T675C

Next PDA TG50 :D

..ah ... and i'm 29

[sparkyclie]

Old Boy at 42. Still miss the Psions multi-tasking though . . .sigh!

[X Destruction]

I'm fourteen, I keep bluetooth off, and the green led isn't bright. During the day, the keyboard light barely shows. Of course it attracts a little attention, but not really. I even use word to go (my tg50 actually came with it!) to write out assignments. I write out my homework in the to do list, and tests on memopad. I of course, make a "school" category for all this stuff. Whenever I need to get somebody's number, all I have to do is pull out my clie. When use it, I also use the handstrap for extra protection.

[deepwater]

almost 30;)

[Al W]

55 y/o here (argh!)

[magpies14]

I'm 28....kekekekeke

[xenna]

42, I started out with a HP100LX, you really were a nerd when you had a PDA in those days.

http://www.pdastreet.com/hardware/Hewlett-Packard-HP200LX-2001-5-3-pdastreet-pdas.html

Even though my current TG50 can do a lot that my old 100LX couldn't I'm still a bit disappointed about the fact that the PIM applications haven't made much progress since then. The Date, Addres and Note applications on the 100LX easily matched the TG50's.

I still have it lying in a drawer somewhere and it still works unlike the PDA's I owned since then.

X.

[HotSpot]

Young at heart 31.

People give me lectures of when I will grow out of these gadgets.

I say its a toy and everyone needs a toy plus it may come in handy for some work!

[yOyOYoo]

just turned 22 yesterday! :D

[tabjo]

I'm 35. My second palm. Upgraded from Palm III (gave to my husband).

[slortar]

30 - gack - started out with an Apple Newton 110 at about 18 (on my own).

[juehoe]

I am 42...

-Juerg-

[Shipwreck]

I'm 33 Years old

Started out with the Visor Deluxe, then the Palm m130. I bought my Clie TG50 about a week after they were released. :D

Hey, now THIS is funny!!! I did a spell check on this reply, and Clie wasn't recognized!!! hee hee hee :D :D :D :D

[Unregistered]

may be the youngest at only 14 :) i know how to save a lot of cash :)

[cccccc]

i am 17 .
and i think i am the youngest chinese in this fourm:)

[Bob_C]

Ummm, 49. I've been waiting my whole life for the TG50.

Don't tell my wife :)

[flomet]

52 years old here

[howiemandel]

I'm 20 now

20 years old = Sony Clie TG-50 paired with a Sony Ericsson T68i
19 years old = Casio E-200 Pocket PC 2002
18 years old = Handspring Visor Deluxe Black

The evolution continues.............

[Vectrex]

18

[dacmo]

Just got myself a shiny TG-50. I love it. I'm 29

[arjay]

Originally posted by xenna
42, I started out with a HP100LX, you really were a nerd when you had a PDA in those days.

http://www.pdastreet.com/hardware/Hewlett-Packard-HP200LX-2001-5-3-pdastreet-pdas.html

Even though my current TG50 can do a lot that my old 100LX couldn't I'm still a bit disappointed about the fact that the PIM applications haven't made much progress since then. The Date, Addres and Note applications on the 100LX easily matched the TG50's.

I still have it lying in a drawer somewhere and it still works unlike the PDA's I owned since then.

X.

I really can't agree with you here. While I loved my HP200LX, and especially it's "Solver" application, there was one distinct difference between the PIMs on the old devices and devices available today....synchronization! I had to convert my pim info to text files then import to my PC (Mac at the time as I remember). And, really, what advances have been made in PIM technology, even on the PC. Very little...as there doesn't seem to be much you can do. A calendar is a calendar, and an address book an address book. Very little has changed on handhelds, save synchronization, because very little has changed on our PCs. Until there is an acceptable advance there, there won't be a change on the handheld.

I had my HP200LX stolen several years ago, or I would still be using it in some instances (again I loved that solver!).

And...ummmm I'm 56 (if I remember correctly)! HP200LX, Palm III, Palm IIIx, iPaq 3635, Toshiba e570, (contemplating TG50) love youth, live on a sailboat (fall off occasionally), and don't post often!

Regards,
arjay

[coxy]

35 and on my first PDA.

[marcus_yam]

I've just turned 19 recently. TG 50 is my second and already my third is the SJ 22!

[xenna]

Originally posted by arjay
I really can't agree with you here. While I loved my HP200LX, and especially it's "Solver" application, there was one distinct difference between the PIMs on the old devices and devices available today....synchronization!

That's right of course. There was however a smart synchronization application for the HP200LX, made by a small company called Palm Software. I was a beta tester for that software. I always thought they gave it up and started their own line of PDA's (with synchronization as one of the key selling points)... ;-)

Can anyone confirm that's the same company?

I still have that stuff lying around somewhere.

X.

[arjay]

Originally posted by xenna


That's right of course. There was however a smart synchronization application for the HP200LX, made by a small company called Palm Software. I was a beta tester for that software. I always thought they gave it up and started their own line of PDA's (with synchronization as one of the key selling points)... ;-)

Can anyone confirm that's the same company?

I still have that stuff lying around somewhere.

X.

Interesting...I didn't remember that, but now that you mention it I seem to recall some chatter regarding HPX00LX synchronization. I wonder what happened to them? The Pilot came along, and its' synchronization was right on the money at the time, which I believe is why the Pilot took off as well and quickly as it did.

arjay

[xenna]

Originally posted by arjay


Interesting...I didn't remember that, but now that you mention it I seem to recall some chatter regarding HPX00LX synchronization. I wonder what happened to them? The Pilot came along, and its' synchronization was right on the money at the time, which I believe is why the Pilot took off as well and quickly as it did.

arjay

I wasn't clear I guess: The point is I've always thought that the Palm Software guys behind the HPLX sync stuff got some investors together and went on to make the Palm Pilot...

I may be wrong of course.

X.

[arjay]

Originally posted by xenna


I wasn't clear I guess: The point is I've always thought that the Palm Software guys behind the HPLX sync stuff got some investors together and went on to make the Palm Pilot...

I may be wrong of course.

X.

Yeah....I think you're right! Seems like forever ago, but I do vaguely remember that now that you mention it. The details are gone though. The only things I have left of the 200LX are the owner's manual and a serial cable I used for both synching (with an adapter) and for modem connection. Ahhh...those were the days! 2400 baud and thought I was flying! Actually, the internet was text based back then...no graphic overhead, and it did move along rather well. I think I started with GEnie. My first venture into the internet! No spam, no advertisements, nothing but information! No point and click either for those old enough to remember.

[Unregistered]

I am 20

[ksievers]

I'm 44.

[Andyvan]

I'm 44

[Ezra4no1]

31 here.....

[bakker]

T W E N T Y N I N E years old....:rolleyes:

[Ezikial Anta]

When i had my TG i was 14 :D and it was great, then i sold it, and now i have a nice (WiFi enabled :p) NX60, and its great. I save a lot of money, because my parents say they dont like them, then they take it to work for the day (Go figure) Anyway, there seems to be all different ranges, which is good, i guess...

[Lazy38]

I am 16
TG50 My 2nd PDA!!

[Chepe]

45 here... and still waiting for Duke Nukem Forever :D

[edsol]

34 and counting...

[Revd]

As if it's not bad enough being so old, I now feel like a statistical aberration too. I am nearly 41!
I had a Psions at your age. Now that keyboards are back in, it was time to update.

[Wannabean333]

I'm 15 and I know what youre thinking. His dad must spoil him so much. However, that is not the case. I paid for my tg50 with my own money ($180 on ebay!!!). I love ebay!

[punk4life]

15 here ... S300 >Cracked Screen>, S320>Cracked Screen>, S360>Fell Off Top Floor Of Mall>, T415>Gave To Mom>, And Last But not Least TG50... Never Getting Rid Of This one... (untill The TG60 Comes Out :)

Beleave It Or Not I Payed For All Of Them Except For The S300 ... Christmas Present... And Thats how I Became Hooked One Clie's

[DRider]

I'm 39. What am I, the old man in the mountain?

[mtbiker]

18 years old

[tonyreynolds]

Just got one for my wife:

She's 51

Tony

[Unregistered]

Vingt neuf ans...Twenty Nine...29...'er shi jiu'...
Savouring every bit of the last year of my 20s before 'upgrading' to the 30s category! :D

[mdlsimpson]

I'm 47 and holding......

[silleevets]

51 and I used Covey planner and Franklin/Covey planners until I got a Palm Vx a few years ago and then went to Sony for hi-res.

[fleabag]

43

[firescorpy]

I am 13 and I bought all the stuff my self.

Palm IIIx-->Palm IIIc-->m505--->T665C-->NR70-->TG50 (lovin' it!)

[RevAaron]

Just out of curitosity, where would a 13 year old get all the money to buy all that stuff? Or even a 15 year old? I mean, I would get $30 total for my birthday when I was a kid, and maybe $5/week in allowance. But then again, I suppose rich kids always got it better, right? :)

Not to say you guys are guilty of this, but it never fails to amuse me when people think they've paid for something themselves, simply because they wrote the check- even though someone else just gave them the money. I've known many other people who tell me they pay for college themselves. That money may have got into their account by mommy and daddy writing a $5,000 check for that semester. Boy, that sounds rough! Paid for it myself, my arse. Ok, rant is done!

[arjay]

Well, I can't speak for him, but I know I began working for folding money when I was 12 years old. I had a paper route, bailed hay in the summer, and cleaned the windows and floors of a little local restaurant on weekends. OTOH I didn't get an allowance, so if I wanted spendin' money, I had to work for it! Not saying he did, but at least I know from personal experience it's possible.

[RevAaron]

Good point there- you can make a good amount of money (well, it seems like that then!) doing a paper route. I've had a job straight since I was 14, starting with detassling the summer before I turned 15. But there weren't many opportunities for making money before that- paper routes were run by adults, and when you can get an adult to do the job, why bother with kids? (other than to pay them less, but these adults were getting paid crap anyway) I mean, I babysat and stuff when I was younger, but that wasn't a steady job.

Good to hear about a hard working kid. :)

[arjay]

You're right though, it's not as easy now. It's been a long time since I was young, and times have changed. I can't remember the last time I saw a kid delivering papers. That's almost always done by adults now, with huge routes.

arjay

[RevAaron]

Yeah- big routes, run by adults. Big enough to require a car to get the job done. You'll see kids who just got a car run them, but in their cars. I'm 23 now, and when I was 12-13, there were still a few jobs delivering papers, though only for the local city paper- the Minneapolis Star Tribune and St. Paul Pioneer Press were done by adults in cars. About the only job I could get back then was to detassle- which one couldn't do until age 14. The job sucked, though you could make some nice money, especially if you survived through the first year and went back the next year. Or there were the usual kid jobs, ones that weren're steady- mowing lawns, babysitting, etc.

Oh well, either way- gotta love PDAs. As a kid, my first computer was a handheld - a Tandy PC-3 (http://oldcomputers.net/trs80pc3.html) More or less a glorified calculator that was programmable in BASIC, with a whopping 1.4 KB of RAM! A casette interface for loading and saving programs and a thermal printer. It was about the best thing a 10 year old could have- it also got me started programming, and put me on the path of my obsession with handheld computers. I can't say I had to work for this, an uncle got it free for me- they were tossing it out at work. The family didn't get a computer until a few years later, when a different uncle gave me an old XT. Mind you, this is in the day when the new computers were 386s, so even then it was a dinosaur. But you could do so much!

Ok, sorry about the little digression...

[firescorpy]

haha I buy some things wholesale off Ebay and then sells them for profit. It takes work, but hard work earns money!

P.S. I've been thinking about selling my TG50 and move onto something else. Now I looked at the TH55, UX40, and TJ37, but I cant afford them. TJ27 seems too lean. I am kinda leaning toword PPC, since it looks cool, more features, and sometimes, cheaper (off Ebay). Whats your opinion? Thanks!

[RevAaron]

Ah yes- a kid could make some money that way, that's for sure? Although, it begs another question- do you have a credit card at your age? Or just use PayPal + checking account? Maybe you can even use a savings account through paypal?


P.S. I've been thinking about selling my TG50 and move onto something else. Now I looked at the TH55, UX40, and TJ37, but I cant afford them. TJ27 seems too lean. I am kinda leaning toword PPC, since it looks cool, more features, and sometimes, cheaper (off Ebay). Whats your opinion? Thanks!

Trying to start a flamewar? Sorry, I just couldn't resist asking. :D

What kind of features were you thinking of? I'm not sure what kind of PocketPC or other Palm OS models you were looking at, but I wouldn't write off Palm OS. That said, I'm not like the majority of folks here- I am not a hard core Palm OS person at all- this Clie NX70V is the first Palm OS PDA I've owned. I've owned pretty much every kind of PDA that there's been, since the first- the Apple Newton OMP.

For instance, you can get the Clie NX70V (http://www.compuplus.com/insidepage.php3?refer=cnet.com&id=955) pretty cheap if you look around. That one is even new. I bought mine from an Amazon Store (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/B00006RSJ1/qid=1094098862/sr=8-3/ref=sr_8_xs_ap_i3_xgl147/102-7396334-2406508?v=glance&s=pc&n=507846) and it was in great condition, for something like $220. Mine was marked as used, but it was in new condition. Not sure what kind of features you were looking for, but at this kind of price, this is an awesome PDA for the money. It even has the capability for wifi and bluetooth, with add on cards- it has a memory stick and a CF slot, though the CF slot can only be used for Sony's wifi cards or memory. Me, I'm a sucker for a higher-res screen, and the NX70V has a nice 480x320. That has twice as many pixels as the vast majority of PocketPC screens out there, with the exception being the *one* 640x480 PocketPC that is out there now, though there are a couple coming out soon.

But then again, for the same $200-250 you can get a decent PocketPC. For $250 you can get a Dell Axim X30 with a 312 MHz CPU, and builtin bluetooth *and* 802.11b. That's a great deal. It's been somewhat amusing to me... In the last few years, things have really flipped in the PDA world. A lot of the arguments Palm OS people used to use against Pocket PC apply to the Palm OS world now. Especially price- you can't get anything with built-in wifi- let alone wifi *and* bluetooth- for anywhere close to $250 on the Palm OS side.

It all comes down to what you're going to use it for. Pocket PC makes for a better browsing experience, software wise. But if you want the most out of your browsing experience, a 320x240 or 320x320 display just won't cut it- I personally won't use anything lower than 480x320. Sure, there are the VGA models like I noted, but the cheapest- the Toshiba e805- is still $499, probably beyond your budget.

I think that the software you can get for Pocket PC is a lot better than for Palm OS, at least considering individual apps. After hours and hours of looking for and testing notetaking apps, I've still not found a program for the Palm OS that gets anywhere near the built-in Newton Notes app- or even the one that comes with Pocket PC. My whole college career I've taken all of my notes on my PDA, but that is something I cannot use my Clie NX70V for very well. I've been using Clie Memo and having drawn notes and no text, but it's a big drag... On the Pocket PC and Newton, I was able to take most of the notes in plain-text, using real handwriting recognition, something the Palm OS also doesn't have, with sketches mixed in when I needed them. I'm a biology major, so I'd often have chemical formulas or diagrams to throw in between lines of text, but no can do on the Palm.

I'd say that the over-all user experience is better on a Palm- the package seems to be more integrated- think a Mac vs a PC. The PIM apps really don't do anything more on Palm OS than they do on Pocket PC, but there is something that just feels a little nicer about them, IMHO.

What is my point with all of this? That it all depends on what you need. I havea lot of big, show stopping problems with the Palm OS- no full screen real handwriting recognition, not good notetaking apps, no multitasking, no web browser that allows more than one window, no means of scripting applications, . Yes, I'm a power user, and I'm sure that's obvious. But for me, a PDA should be a real computer. I use a "PDA" as my main computer at home- Sigmarion 3 (http://handheldpcs.superboxes.com), before that a Zaurus SL-C760, and before that a Jornada 720 and before that a Newton MP 2100.

But I still like my NX70V. 90% of what I do with it is just reading ebooks. It is the PDA I carry with me all the time. I expect very little from it- at least compared to what I expect of a Newton, WinCE or Linux device- and it delivers 100% in that regard. But when I first got it, I expected it to have the same kind of power that all the other PDAs I've had did, which was a mistake, but one I soon corrected by adjusting what my idea of what I should expect out of it. I don't ask much so it never lets me down.

Lastly: DANG, that was long. sorry to everyone it may bother. :P

[kid]

i could be the youngest

13 years old here

[rcxAsh]

Could be. The poster on the previous who woke this thread from the dead is also 13. So.. you may not be the youngest, depending on months now. Hehe.do you have a credit card at your age? Or just use PayPal + checking account? Maybe you can even use a savings account through paypal?I don't think you can have a credit card at 13..? I'd guess that the easiest way to do it would be to go through your parents. Get them to use their credit card, and then reimburse them with cash.

[firescorpy]

yup, thats what I do. I use their paypal account and reimburst them with cash.

Adding onto what RevAaron said, things have been upside down in the PDA world, since now pocket PC holds about 40% marketshare and Palm holds 40% marketshare. The PPC looks very appealing, and the interface is cool. I owned a NR70 before, and I like the extra screen space - its just nice. But the screen is not the matter here, it is the appearance and functionality. I like the native support for word and excel documents on PPC, since I am a student, and does alot of typing and stuff. Also the ability to play raw video file on Window Media, more RAM on PPC, and the Mini-me internet explorer. I really cant decide now, but this weekend my dad is going to take me to Staple to try out the units. I'll let you guys know. Thanks.

[firescorpy]

ok its official, I am switching to a Dell Axim X5 with 256mb CF. It was onlt $100 including shipping!

[SirKillalot]

ooooooh
am i really the youngest TG50 user?!
<< 15 years young

[Kaiser Soese]

31 winters here.

[TG50 minus 9]

at 41, I claim to be the oldest

[jjesusfreak01]

Im 17, but I was 16 when I got my TG-50. I am now the proud owner of a TH-55, the greatest PDA ever!