Bug in SilverXP(ZLauncher) and WorldMate

[williepalm]

Just found a bug.
If you're using WorldMate 9.1 and you've SilverXP as your theme on ZLauncher, your Palm will crash when you select to view currency exchange page. Maybe its just my unit having the bug. Can anyone using these 2 apps try whether it crashes on yours?

[ClieMarty]

I don't use "SilverXP". But I doubt that just a skin may crash a second app. Could it be just zLauncher interferring with WorldMate?

[williepalm]

I've got 6 skins(theme) on my ZLauncher and I've ran all of them and it seems that only Silver XP crashes with my selection of Worlmate currencies.

[Burdie]

I don't use SilverXP either, but I have been having the same issue, sporadically (since upgrading to ZL 3.00). My Palm crashes after I do a HotSync and get the new currency rates.

Again, it does not happen every time, but it does seem similar to what Williepalm is reporting.

Burdie

[sebring]

It doesn't seem to be skin specific. I use the default skin and it also freezes with a blank screen, requiring a soft reset, when Worldmate is updating currencies. I am using ZLauncher v3,01B.

[williepalm]

Funny though, I've experimented it with other themes and the only one that crashes when launching Worldmate's currencies is Silver XP.

[harpgliss]

Im using the copperdeck theme and am having the same issues.

David

[williepalm]

CopperDeck II seems ok with mine.

[wellsjs]

Confirmed. Yes I got a soft reset when Updating Currencies completed, using ZL Silver XP and not with Aquawood. I don't use the currency feature of WorldMate so it's not critical for me.

[Sid]

I too have this problem on my T665 with WM 9.1.1 and ZL 3.01B with the free Silver XP theme (there is the $2.00 shareware one also, but I don't have it).
I will try with a different theme next time.

[Sid]

I still have the same problem using a different theme, Honolulu's OSX theme. I guess I'll try the default ZLauncher theme next (in another 6 hours).

[Sid]

OK, I used the AquaWoodXP theme and even exited ZL before hot syncing, but still had the same freeze after currency rates updated.

I sent ZZTechs an email about this, since it seems to be an issue with ZL itself and not a certain skin, at least on my T665.

[sebring]

Has anyone been able to determine the cause of this behavior. It doesn't seem to be ZLauncher at all. I have the same problem from the default launcher now. I have emailed both Mobimate and ZZTechs. ZZTechs is looking into it, but I haven't heard from Mobimate yet (I did email them much later than I did ZZTech).

I have tried disabling all hacks and uninstalling recently installed apps, but still not fixed.

[Sid]

ZZTechs told me that they have not been able to reproduce this problem, and asked me for more details. It may turn out to be something else. I don't want to reinstall 2.3 and see if still happens (it didn't before).
Once WorldMate is launched, ZL is no longer active, right?

[sebring]

I have pretty much eliminated ZLauncher as the cause. I installed ZL v3 on my N610, which also has WM and WM does not crash on it. I've been trying to isolate all the changes I've made to my NR recently, but have not come up with the solution yet.

[Burdie]

The only other program I have installed in the last few days is SyncAll 1.4.1

Has anyone else had problems with that?

Burdie

[Burdie]

Scratch my idea that maybe SyncAll 1.4.1 was the problem. I just deleted it, did a hotsync etc and tried to access the currency rates in WorldMate 9.1. Crashed again - more accurately, the screen just goes blank and does nothing, and the buttons don't work etc.

Burdie

[sebring]

Unfortunately, I've added and removed several apps recently. SyncAll was not among them. The following are some of them.
Nevada Craps
WorkSmith
Repligo
FlyZip
LightNzip
Newpen
DTMF DA
ToDo DA
RifleSLUGsII
Recent updates
Uninstall Hack
Cleanup
ZLauncher
Has anyone that is having this problem installed or updated any of these recently?

[harpgliss]

Zlauncher and ToDoDa for me from your list.

David

[williepalm]

Ok here's what I've tested.
As long as Silver XP(and other skin reported) is set/selected, even if you exit ZLauncher and use the default Launcher, Worldmate's currency will stillcrash. Only when you set the default ZLauncher's skin that Worldmate's currency wont crash your Palm.
Other skin that wont crash with Worldmate that I've tested:
-Crystal Clie
-Zoopie
-Hon_Poly_Os5

[Sid]

Originally posted by williepalm
Ok here's what I've tested.
As long as Silver XP(and other skin reported) is set/selected, even if you exit ZLauncher and use the default Launcher, Worldmate's currency will stillcrash. Only when you set the default ZLauncher's skin that Worldmate's currency wont crash your Palm.
Other skin that wont crash with Worldmate that I've tested:
-Crystal Clie
-Zoopie
-Hon_Poly_Os5

This method does NOT work on my T665.
I switched to the AquawoodXP theme, un-checked "Default Launcher" and then exited ZL. After hot syncing and trying to check the currency on WM I had the sme freeze as before. :confused:

[williepalm]

No, its not about the "default launcher check box". Its about which skin you have set.

[Sid]

Originally posted by williepalm
No, its not about the "default launcher check box". Its about which skin you have set.

I understand that, and I had the default skin, AquawoodXP set, and exited ZL before hot syncing AND still had the same freeze.

[Burdie]

Williepalm:

I tried changing my skin to the ZL3_Poly_Hono_Sony_64K on my T665 (is that the right equivalent skin?). Worldmate still crashed when I went to the currencies after a hotsync.

It is crashing no matter what skin I use (always after a hotsync, after it updates the currencies list).

Burdie

[williepalm]

Maybe thats the difference. Mine's ZL2_Hon_Poly05_SonyHR_64K.

[williepalm]

Or maybe its Worldmate's bug?

[sebring]

This is very mysterious. Worldmate still works fine on my N610, even after installing ZLauncher 3, but it crashes consistently on my NR regardless of what Launcher I use. That is why I listed the apps I've recently installed, above, to see if there are any that may be responsible. On my NR, I use the default skin and that is the only skin I've used since v3 came out.

[Sid]

Could there be some type of problem with the currency rate data obtained from the WM server? Maybe something changed on their end that's just different enough to affect some models and configurations, but not others.

[sebring]

Apparently the problem is with Worldmate. I did a hard reset on my NR, renamed my backup directory on my PC (so nothing would be restored), reinstalled Worldmate so it was the only third party app on my NR. Did a hotsync and the currency update still crashed my NR. For some reason, it still works on my N610 so maybe it is a device specific problem or maybe it relates to processor speed, since the NR processor is twice as fast as the N.

[Sid]

Well since the version of WorldMate hasn't changed then my earlier suggestion about a change to the WM server/currency data may be on the right track.
The thing is, we won't get the same prompt attention from MobiMate as we do from ZZTechs :(

[Burdie]

Sid:

Mobimate have contacted me twice about this. So, maybe it will get some attention.

What I don't understand is why this just started. I have been using Worldmate 9.1 for a couple of months and all of a sudden this problem has cropped up.

So, maybe your suggestion is on the right track.

Burdie

[Sid]

I sent an email to MobiMate today (4/12) and provided a link to this thread as well.
Burdie, what has MobiMate told you about the problem?

[Burdie]

Sid:

I have now received three replies from Mobimate. Two said "Thank You", and one asked "Does it also happen when the Zlauncher is closed and you try to run WorldMate from the Palm launcher?" (it does).

Other than that they said they are investigating it.

Burdie

[sebring]

I found out why WM still worked on my N610 and not my NR. I had never updated my N610 to v9.1, it still had v9 on it. Reinstalling v9 on my NR fixed the crash problem, but I'm back to having the extended hotsync times whenever WM syncs. I can live with the long hotsync times, since I can set WM to sync only a couple of times a day.:( I've emailed Amir at Mobimate with my findings, so maybe he can come up with a fix. Weird how it worked fine until recently, but they are working on WMPro now so maybe they changed something in the file we get.

[Sid]

I just got an email from Nir at MobiMate asking me to try it again and now it works correctly! My last sync was at 8:20 AM EDT.
Hopefully this fix will take care of everybody who had this problem.
Quite a coincidence though with the ZLauncher update.

[sebring]

Sid,

I think it is more likely related to their work on Worldmate Pro than anything to do with ZLauncher. Also Megalauncher's new version came out the same time as ZLauncher and ML folks also had the problem.

[Sid]

Originally posted by sebring
Sid,

I think it is more likely related to their work on Worldmate Pro than anything to do with ZLauncher. Also Megalauncher's new version came out the same time as ZLauncher and ML folks also had the problem.

I agree with you, nothing to do with ZL, just an untimely coincidence causing ZL to be the prime suspect at first.

[Burdie]

I just did a hotsync and got the currency rates and it is working fine for me too.

Yeah!

Burdie