Downloading File using Blazer

[so12]

Hi,

Does anyone know how to download file in blazer ? Everytime when I try to download a file whether it is to card or internal memory it said out of memory. The file is very small only 1k.

Your help would be much appreciated. :confused:

[atraum]

Wish I could help you on this one because I have the same issue as well as others. This has been reported on for quite sometime. I know there was on suggestion to use sharkdownload but I have not found an easy way to copy the link of a download into sharkdownload.

Although Blazer is considerably faster with the new LD update this error has not been fixed.

[Pathdoc]

There have been a couple of ways I have gotten around this. Neither work every time.
1) Soft reset, then try download.
2) Launch Blazer. Rotate screen to landscape. Go to page with file and try to download.

I had REALLY hoped that update 2.0 would fix this. It didn't. :(

[dragonsgames]

What about SharkDownload? :)

[slaughters]

Hi,

Does anyone know how to download file in blazer ? Everytime when I try to download a file whether it is to card or internal memory it said out of memory. The file is very small only 1k.

Your help would be much appreciated. :confused:No soft reset or landscape rotation needed for me.

I simply navigate to the page which contains the link to the file I want to download.

After getting to the page I click to bring up Blazers options and then choose to Clear Cache.

The very next thing I do is to click on the download link and viola - it downloads.

(P.S. I've applied the 2.0 patch, so I can't say if this worked prior to that)

[JeffGr]

I find it very surprising and frustrating that Palm didn't fix this bug in the update. I switched to Xinio as my primary browser quite some time ago due to this. With it, I have never had any difficulties downloading files.

I do like the rendering better on Blazer and the updated version is now just about equivalent to Xinio in speed. I'm now finding myself generally using Blazer for casual web-browsing and Xinio for downloads.

-Jeff

[lbugnion]

I'm now finding myself generally using Blazer for casual web-browsing and Xinio for downloads.

I do the same.

Laurent

[Maticek]

Since the update my Blazer doesn't want to download at all.

[so12]

I have tried the clearing the cache trick without success. I guess I shall try the Xinio option next as suggested

[lbugnion]

I have tried the clearing the cache trick without success. I guess I shall try the Xinio option next as suggested

Clearing the cache also did nothing for me in Blazer.

Laurent

[sweetpureday]

This issue is driving me mad with my Lifedrive - I used to be able to download mp3's (for listening via pocktunes) and pdf's (with Palm pdf) Ok if I did a soft reset first and this was after the December update.

Now even that doesn't work and I have no idea what has changed nor does clearing the cache using any of the available tools. I have deleted all background applications so its not that. I'm trialing Xino and that worked for a few pdf's but couldn't cope with the javascript of garageband.com which I use for most of my mp3 downloads and it tried to download a free mp3 from Amazon (very very slowly) but then generated a weird error and the end.

Tried Sharkdownload but couldn't get it to work with any urls I tried for mp3's(DNS error)

Has anyone got Xino to work with an MP3 and if so how? Is there likely to be a Blazer download fix any time soon? Or is Netfront 3.4 likely to come out for the Palm OS - I see its now out for the pocket pc. I used to love this facility and even upgraded to pockettunes delux to play with shoutcast.

Please if anyone else has any other bright ideas I'd be truly grateful

[ptmin]

Hi do you guys using xiino know where dowloaded files are kept? i have been searching for the downloaded files in xiino after being loaded but did not find it so i have given up using it, even though it is a nice piece of software but a bit complex.

[Chip Anderson]

Wish I could help you on this one because I have the same issue as well as others. This has been reported on for quite sometime. I know there was on suggestion to use sharkdownload but I have not found an easy way to copy the link of a download into sharkdownload.

Although Blazer is considerably faster with the new LD update this error has not been fixed.

I inserted an SD card and moved the Blazer dir. to the card and it has started working. Even after I copied the dirs back to the LD and removed the card.

[Chip Anderson]

Nevermind, it's stopped working again and I can't get it to start.

[sweetpureday]

[ I edited my original post because I've now realised that the reason I managed to get away from the "out of memory error" had nothing to do with what I thought was happening and so was misleading - sorry - feeling a suitably embarassed "learner" Lifedriver]. The following is quite simple but what I really do think helps ( it is what fixed it for me although I thought it was something else I was doing co-incidentally at the same time). This is worth a try -

(1) Launch Blazer and make sure you have "clear cache on exit" ticked in Balzer - Options - Preferences - Advanced (by the way pressing "clear cache" whilst in this tab doesn't seem to help me)

(2) Try and download - if you get the "out of memory error" exit Blazer and then re-launch it and ***without trying to download*** anything exit it again (you might have to repeat this a few times - see below).

(3) Re-launch Blazer and try the download now.

(4) I find that I always get the "out of memory error" after a soft reset or a crash. With a soft reset I only need to exit, relaunch and exit Blazer once before being able to download - if it was a crash that caused the problem I have to do it a few times before trying to download - but it does always seems to work...Plus its much quicker than a soft reset and for me anyway a soft reset never makes the error go away (in fact it always causes it - if I was downloading fine before).

I think this might only work for those with the December update - cos I understand for other threads Palm beefed up the cache management of Blazer with this update.

[eccleshill]

Dont work!
Get the same message
Not enough memory

Same for me I'm afraid :( Just can't seem to get Blazer working the way it's meant to work. Still, worth a try.

[sweetpureday]

Aw sorry eccleshill and enotar. I really thought this might work for everyone. It works perfectly for me everytime -tried it again this morning after reading your replies just to make I hadn't dreamt it...

Plus I'm no programmer or hacker but it sort of makes possible sense - mathslib is a library of math formulas shared by lots of applications so what if something had gone wrong with it during reset so that when Blazer calculated the memory needed for the download it got it radically wrong hence the errr message. Or something like that. Truth is I don't even really know if Blazer uses mathlib.

Perhaps my problem is different to everyone elses then, although it looks the same - have to admit I can cause my problem to come back by soft resetting whilst for most people this makes it go away, at least temporarily. Perhaps this error message hides a bunch of diffferent issues? - dbcache / dynamic memory / third party conflicts and in my case something to do with mathlib prc...

Oh well - "I'm alright Jack" now but I really hoped this might help others out cos before I found my work around it drove me crazy. Really enjoying streaming internet radio (via pocket-tunes) right now...

[ptmin]

Hi
I just wanted to try this so with my LD did a soft reset pointed my browser to load the mathLib with blazer browser and i was able to load it twice, so i think this update might help some but not all, i am able to download depending on the file not sure about all this though. an update Version 3 from Palm will be much appreciated considering the price of this device.

[SoS]

Aw sorry eccleshill and enotar. I really thought this might work for everyone. It works perfectly for me everytime -tried it again this morning after reading your replies just to make I hadn't dreamt it...

Plus I'm no programmer or hacker but it sort of makes possible sense - mathslib is a library of math formulas shared by lots of applications so what if something had gone wrong with it during reset so that when Blazer calculated the memory needed for the download it got it radically wrong hence the errr message. Or something like that. Truth is I don't even really know if Blazer uses mathlib.

Perhaps my problem is different to everyone elses then, although it looks the same - have to admit I can cause my problem to come back by soft resetting whilst for most people this makes it go away, at least temporarily. Perhaps this error message hides a bunch of diffferent issues? - dbcache / dynamic memory / third party conflicts and in my case something to do with mathlib prc...

Oh well - "I'm alright Jack" now but I really hoped this might help others out cos before I found my work around it drove me crazy. Really enjoying streaming internet radio (via pocket-tunes) right now...

blazer doesn't use mathlib!!
;)

..also, can you check out the state of your dynamic heap? If you have palmpdf installed (and you should if you read pdf's), can you let us know the numbers at the top of thew screen after you launch it...?

[sweetpureday]

Thanks SOS. You are right, of course, its got nothing to do with mathlib - I have edited my original "fix" post so as not to waste anyone else's time and to say sorry -

What I am now pretty sure was actually clearing up my "out of memory" problem, although I didn't realise it, was going in and out of Blazer with "clear cache on exit" ticked - and yeah that does work every time for me.

To answer your question though about dynamic heap I have just got myself my "out of memory" error back by soft resetting and my Dynamic Heap Memory (which I checked just before going into Blazer cos I knew the error would be there after a reset and sure enough it was) was showing in Palm Pdf as 4507/4440 KB

These figures were pretty much confirmed by Palm's own MemInfo (from the Palm developers kit - which I picked up from another thread) Dynamic Heap was showing as -Total Size = 6144 KB/ Total Free = 4524 KB / Largest Chunk Free = 4444 KB)

DB Cache was showing as - Total Size = 13503 KB/Total Free = 5859 KB/ Largest Free Chunk = 4036 KB

Imediately after I existed Blazer I checked these all again and this time Dynamic Heap memory in Palm Pdf showed as 4167 KB / 2513 KB. In MemInfo Dynamic Heap was Total Size = 6144 KB / Total Free 4279 /Total Free 2513.
(so by both measures a bit less after exiting Blazer?)

DB Cache however was - Total Size = 13501 KB / Total Free =9709 KB and Largest Free Chunk KB 4617 (so quite a bit more after existing Blazer...).

Back into Blazer - click on download and no problem!!!!

This suggests to me that, a least for me, it is a DB Cache issue but clicking on "Flush DB Cache" in MemInfo doesn't seem to work as effectively as launching and exiting Blazer a few times before trying a downoad. I'll give the DBCache tool a try as well now.

Any thoughts?

[SoS]

My only thought is that the fact that this machine has such a paltry amount of dynamic heap (less than the T3) and that it is managed so badly (and buggered up by blazer anyway) borders on criminal negligence on the part of Palm. :mad:

[Pathdoc]

I agree SoS. Why do they have to do things so half-a**ed? You should try explaining this to their tech support. Their answer is to delete all third party applications and then it will download fine.

sweetpureday, while it appears that your DB Cache is sufficient, when Blazer loads it takes up a chunk in the middle of the memory space fragmenting it terribly. This began after the update due to changes introduced by the update and is why more people are having more issues than before the update.

[SoS]

I agree SoS. Why do they have to do things so half-a**ed? You should try explaining this to their tech support. Their answer is to delete all third party applications and then it will download fine.

sweetpureday, while it appears that your DB Cache is sufficient, when Blazer loads it takes up a chunk in the middle of the memory space fragmenting it terribly. This began after the update due to changes introduced by the update and is why more people are having more issues than before the update.


Even after reset, I almost always only have ~2.6Mb as largest chunk of DH after the update. Dmitry's uncache attempts to cure this by stopping blazer (and others) from receiving system launchcode 5 at boot, this then stops it fragmenting the heap....what a farce!

[jvburdick]

Funny I emailed Palm and they didn't tell me to delete all 3rd party apps. This is what they said [emphasis added by me]:

"Thank you for contacting Palm Technical Support. My name is Ferds and I will be helping you with regard to your downloading issue. I understand that you’re having problems downloading files with Blazer™.

Blazer is a third party application and I suggest that you contact the original manufacturer of Blazer to better help you with your issue. I really would like to extend my support however; I do not have enough resources to process it.

Note: The presence of a third party product in this email should be not be construed as an endorsement of that product, nor should its absence be considered a denigration. Palm does not manufacture any third-party products mentioned herein, and cannot provide support for them. If you purchase a third-party product and require help with it, please contact the manufacturer.

We hope this issue has been resolved to your satisfaction. "

Hmmm, pretty sure that Palm logo in the about screen means Palm had something to do with Blazer. I have emailed them back making sure we are on the same page with Blazer and in my original email to Palm Support I mentioned that they advertise that Lifedrive could download files from the internet. Seems like false advertising to me. I know Xiino can download files and that is what I use, but Blazer should work as advertised no matter how many apps you have installed. :mad:

[slaughters]

..Blazer is a third party application and I suggest that you contact the original manufacturer of Blazer to better help you with your issue. I really would like to extend my support however; I do not have enough resources to process it....Classic !!

[SoS]

Do I hear a faint whisper of 'class action'.... ;)

[jenningsghv2]

Hi, guys. For all that's been b*itched about the LifeDrive, I have enjoyed it since I bought mine more than a year ago. It's served me well for the most part in my work as a journalist here in Manila. Its infamous seconds-lag when the micro drive is being accessed and the long reboot after a soft reset haven't bothered me as much as they have other people, perhaps because I encounter worse on my PC (which is, of course, running Windows XP).

The only thing that has majorly annoyed me, however, is the inability to download a file using Blazer--because this bug defeats two of the major features of the LifeDrive: WiFi connectivity and that huge micro-drive for big files, whether hotsynced or downloaded. All of us LifeDrive owners paid a good amount of money to own one, and I believe it is incumbent upon Palm/Palmsource to provide a fix for this. It is the moral and decent thing to do for its consumers--and makes perfectly good business sense, as it would be a show of good faith and not alienate consumers.

For now, I would just like to contribute that I may have found a workaround to this bug regarding Blazer's inability to download files. I was tweaking the program's settings at a coffeeshop that offeredfree WiFi access. Before firing up Blazer, I cleared the DBcache using MemInfo and then set Blazer to Wide Page Mode. Then, I went to the 1src site and tried to download the latest podcast (which, actually, I already had). It did--although I didn't finish the download (again I already had the MP3 file and listened to it), I let it download as much as 30 percent of the file before killing it, as I didn't want to tax my battery life.

I must underscore that this seeming workaround worked for me only once, so it may or may not be a workaround. I'll try to do the same thing in a different location to see if it's a replicable workaround or I was just lucky at that one time.

Hope you guys could also test and see if it works for ou. Many thanks.

[bulls96]

I use Netfront to download and Blazer to browse

[tomlouie]

Before firing up Blazer, I cleared the DBcache using MemInfo and then set Blazer to Wide Page Mode.

Using Meminfo to clear the dbcache works for me as well. If this doesn't work, I soft-reset the LD as a last resort.

[bulls96]

is it safe to use meminfo?

[SoS]

Using Meminfo to clear the dbcache works for me as well. If this doesn't work, I soft-reset the LD as a last resort.

interesting, because for me, soft reset may clear the cache to some extent but it does not defrag it and this is the problem afaict..soft reset does clear and edfrag the dynamic heap but only if you have uncache or (like me) memunfragment...

[tomlouie]

interesting, because for me, soft reset may clear the cache to some extent but it does not defrag it and this is the problem afaict..soft reset does clear and edfrag the dynamic heap but only if you have uncache or (like me) memunfragment...

You're right, forgot to mention that I am using UnCache when I soft-reset my LD. (Doesn't hurt that soft-resets are lots faster because of MD->CF now...)

Tom

[SoS]

You're right, forgot to mention that I am using UnCache when I soft-reset my LD. (Doesn't hurt that soft-resets are lots faster because of MD->CF now...)

Tom

ok, glad Im not going totally insane...or am I??

[bulls96]

Actually started downloading a 500MB file using Netfront yesterday! i just stopped it at around 30MB point... LD might heat up too much especially i forgot to remove it from my hard case... but 500MB!!

[jenningsghv2]

To bulls96: Regarding MemInfo, I haven't had any problems with it since I began using it many months ago.