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Puppy
04-08-2003, 07:20 PM
Well, I’m considering the NX60/70, SJ-33, and SJ-22. I bought a Tungsten T, and shipped it back, as the screen was blurry and dim if you tilted the top edge away from you even slightly (which is how I hold my PDAs). I compared it to a store model, which was brighter, but still not as good as the NX models, so…

Unfortunately, there doesn’t seem to be a single PDA out there that’s exactly what I want. The Tungsten T is flaky. The SJ 22/33 screens are too small, especially the graffiti area (for whatever reason, graffiti doesn’t seem very accurate on them) and the 33 has a lame scroll wheel. That GRwhatever only has a thumb keyboard, which I hate. The NX series feels pretty nice in the hand. I love the virtual graffiti area (love the size of the area, being able to see what I’m writing, and text entry seems easier than on other PDAs). And the screen seems to be the best on any current Palm. Except I hate that there are no hardware buttons on the bottom of the screen when in “tablet” mode, which is how I’d use the NX 99% of the time. Not sure if I could get used to that.

At any rate, I’ve got some questions about it maybe you guys could help with.

*Have there been any widespread problems with them? The Tungsten T seems to, and the NX series is so ludicrously over-engineered that you’d think there would be problems. Is there an issue with Memory Sticks not reading, like there appears to be with the NV models?

*Are the NXs as stable as other Palms? (How about Sony’s low-end models, for that matter?) I’ve had various Palm and Handspring models, and probably have to do a soft-reset less than once a year, and then only when I’m screwing around with various programs. I’ve heard that the NV and NX seem to crash more often.

*Do I need those stupid MagicGate Memory Sticks for anything (like MP3s)? I’ve got several regular 128MB sticks I use in my camera, and because of that (and because I’m generally opposed to things like MagicGate anyway), I want to make sure all the media capabilities are usable with regular memory sticks.

*Can I just copy MP3s or videos or whatever to a Memory Stick by accessing it like a disk drive? (Like I do with my camera) Or would I have to use some specific Sony program? Can’t believe the NX doesn’t play 64Kb/s MP3s! That’s nuts! I was hoping to record some NPR/Talk Radio from the internet, and stick it on the PDA to listen to on my drive home. That’s only like 24Kb/s, so obviously having to use 96Kb/s is a waste of storage space.

*Do the NX models come with any alternate virtual graffiti/status areas? Something with virtual buttons at the bottom of the screen for the 4 main applications would at least make the unit more usable for me. Like I said, I’m not sure I could get used to always switching to the launcher, and loading basic stuff from there. Too much thought involved :)

Anything else I should know about with it? I wouldn’t even be considering it, except that you can get them for around $400 now, which is basically double the SJ-22, which may or may not be worth it.

Also have to decide between the NX 60 and 70, I guess. I can get them for the same price ($412), but the NX 60 without a rebate for that price. I HATE rebates, as they never seem to come. Plus I have no real use for the camera, as I've already got a real digital camera. Though it would be kind of nice to have one with me all the time, in case something popped up.

I guess what I'd really like is a Palm with the NX form factor and screen when it's in tablet mode, but just a regular design, none of this goofy swiveling stuff. Stick a bigger battery in there with all the extra space you're saving, and give it 32MB. That would be pretty close to my ideal PDA right now.

Thought of another question. How usable is the audio player? Can you easily fast forward through something? Does it remember where you left off if you hit stop, use other apps, and start playing the track later? Or does it start playing from the begining again?

mrbjg4
04-08-2003, 08:42 PM
Sounds like you have a clue, if so...have you looked at the new sharp zaurus? I tried one a few weeks ago and it is slick.

sstrasser86
04-08-2003, 08:44 PM
not really, pretty stable, no, yes, yes

sstrasser86
04-08-2003, 08:45 PM
get the cam trust me in comes in use and if all else fails....you can spend a half hour playing with it

Inginious
04-08-2003, 08:47 PM
you dont need to use the magicgate MS.

When you connect the clie on the PC it appears as a removable
drive.

Easy drag and drop for MP3's, and think that a program comes with the CD where you can convert any MP3 to 96kb/s.

there are a few dozen programs that can allow you to switch the Graffity area and add a few quick launch apps.

Thought of another question. How usable is the audio player? Can you easily fast forward through something?-->YES

Does it remember where you left off if you hit stop, use other apps, and start playing the track later?-->YES

Or does it start playing from the begining again?--> no, you can even play it in the background while using other apps

all and all its a great PDA, top of the line, no regrets, the camera comes in handy every now and then.

Rick 098
04-08-2003, 09:03 PM
Get the NX

n2ifp
04-08-2003, 09:18 PM
If you want the best pocketable PDA currently on the market, go for it. You could also wait until a newer model to come out and that should be real soon, as Sony just dropped the price on the NX to $499 USD.

That typically is an indicator that a newer model will replace it.

Decisions-decisions-decisions...

stronggeek
04-08-2003, 09:44 PM
Originally posted by Rick 098
Get the NX

 

Yea, what he said!

sstrasser86
04-09-2003, 09:49 AM
so what everyone else said i did in about 300 less words

CTzen
04-09-2003, 10:22 AM
got mine two days ago.

BBERIC
04-09-2003, 11:16 AM
Go for the NX60.....

Wolfsmoke
04-09-2003, 11:21 AM
Go for the NX - you won't be sorry.

sstrasser86
04-09-2003, 11:23 AM
nx70

jklfafa
04-09-2003, 11:27 AM
go for nx...i think the price should be higher...its so cheap!!! i use it 100% of the time!!!
its great awsome hardware

defyin
04-09-2003, 01:52 PM
I just got the NX and must say I had some of your same thoughts before purchasing.

After purchasing I love the swivel screen. I didn't think I would but I love it! I have installed a silk screen plug in that gives me controls to my audio player and a few other apps. I did at first miss the hardware buttons when in tablet mode but now I don't. The stability is fine also. I've had no real problems. I think in the beginning when you start installing all kinds of apps you may have to reset every once in awhile, but once you find your "core" set of apps and figure out which ones work and which ones don't you will be fine. MP3 play is great and it shows up as a drive on your computer when you open MSIMPORT on the clie and MXEXPORT on the computer. I am very happy with my NX although I'm returning it to get the NX70v as it's the same price as I got my NX60 for.

mikra
04-09-2003, 02:10 PM
I had a PIII, Handera,PalmV, M505, Clie 625C.
Now I have a Clie NX70V, it´s the best plam i ever had.

There are only two minor issues for me:

* the CompactFlash Slot makes the device a bit to thick and at the moment it does not support CF-cards. So i would like a thinner clie without that slot better.

* Only 11mb of free ram. But thats not a severe problem because Memory stick access is really fast and if you buy Jackflash you get 2,5 - 4 MB more (Flash-)Ram.

Overall:
Its pretty expensive and you have to consider that you MUST buy a memorystick if you really want to use all features (at least 128MB).

I would buy it again without any hesitation

Michael

Puppy
04-09-2003, 05:15 PM
Thanks everyone! I'm pretty sure I'm getting an NX now. I'd get the 60 if I could find it cheaper-I've seen it for $350 versus $412 for the 70, but only at places I wouldn't trust. So I guess I'll go with the 70.

Memory sticks aren't a problem for me, since actually they're the only format I have. Wish they weren't so expensive co mpared with other formats though. I'd really like a 512MB one for use with these things.

Rick 098
04-09-2003, 07:29 PM
NX will support ms-pro(215,512,1gb cards)(with update from sony)

Puppy
04-09-2003, 07:47 PM
I probably won't buy a Pro stick until the prices come down, but out of curiosity, is it possible to just stick it in and have it work (after the update is applied)? I remember reading some thread on here that acted like you needed to format it specially or something weird.

At any rate, that $16 WiFi card convinced me to get the NX!

anniebluesky
04-09-2003, 08:26 PM
Originally posted by Puppy

 Except I hate that there are no hardware buttons on the bottom of the screen when in “tablet” mode, which is how I’d use the NX 99% of the time. Not sure if I could get used to that.

*Do the NX models come with any alternate virtual graffiti/status areas? Something with virtual buttons at the bottom of the screen for the 4 main applications would at least make the unit more usable for me. Like I said, I’m not sure I could get used to always switching to the launcher, and loading basic stuff from there. Too much thought involved :) 
 

Install OKey with 'Scroll Up/Down' enabled. This allows a couple of added bonuses. The up and down scroll button is now arrows that I can tap with my stylus. It also gives you the 4 hard buttons that you have mapped to your most used apps. (For instance on my NX70, when I tap on the battery, Agendus pops up. If  I tap on the left third of the time area, Quik Budget pops up. When I tap on the middle of the time area, Shadow pops up. When I tap on the right third of the time area, HandyShopper pops up.)

BTW, you can't go wrong with the NX70. I got mine the end of January, and I enjoy it everyday.