View Full Version : T665 Built Bad!
RaptorX30
04-08-2003, 05:54 AM
Aggh this thing wasnt properly built. There is electricity in the metal case, which means that theres not proper insulation for the electricity inside the thing, there is either something metal touching the case or it is too close and it is jumping. You can feel it shock you (and it stings a bit) when you have it plugged in and charging, it tapped my upper arm and gave me a shock, but if you touch it with your fingers you can feel a slight tingle. This explains why static electricity screws with it so much
williepalm
04-08-2003, 06:03 AM
In that case, you will be entitled for an exchange. That shouldnt happen.
DIGITALgimpus
04-08-2003, 08:43 AM
I would guess that's a problem with the AC Adapter....
I don't think there is nearly enough power in the T665C for you to actually feel it.
abe214
04-08-2003, 09:03 AM
Yes, that happens to me every now and then too specially when the weather's cold. I "fixed" it somehow by attaching a ground wire to the cradle.
madkins007
04-08-2003, 09:52 AM
Hmm, the Sony AC adaptor's output is 5.2VDC at 2000 milliamps (2 amps). That seems pretty tame to be giving shocks that you can feel.
It sounds a bit like a static shock, which is always worse when the humidity is very low, like in the winter.
If there IS a short or some other problem, I'd send the AC adaptor back ASAP. if it is buzzing you, it might be really harming the internal batteries.
DIGITALgimpus
04-08-2003, 09:58 AM
Didn't have the AC adapter on hand to look... but that is WAY to low to feel.
Even 12V you will not feel.
It could be static. The back of the T665 is metalic. And being winter, it does make good sense...
But electric shock doesn't make sense.
It's an alloy, perhaps the nickel content is too high? A majority of people are alergic to Nickel and don't know it.... perhaps since you hold it in your hand long enough... It's possible... That is a feeling some get from an alergic reaction.
And a majority of people do have a Nickel reaction to some extent... just most it doesn't distrupt their lives... I have one. Got tested a few months ago. Never knew it until the test came back.
My Clie is in a case, so I don't touch the back, hence wouldn't know.
RaptorX30
04-08-2003, 07:45 PM
Well im sure its not static, because its a constant feed of electricity, it shocks me until i take my arm away from it. Its not really a bad shock, just a stinging one, but iy only stings on like my under arms or sensitive places, and it only tingles very slightly when u touch it with ur fingers
DIGITALgimpus
04-08-2003, 07:56 PM
It just doesn't make much sense... That's not enough power for a baby to feel.
I wonder what type of metal it is made of... and what your alergic to.
happycorepuppy
04-09-2003, 03:00 AM
I have that same problem with my laptop. And it seriously isn't static. It's like a shock-shock-shock-shock-shock-... over and over till I move it. Just every once in a while, little stinging shocks. I'm going to get my laptop checked out this week so I'll check back with what I find out.
madkins007
04-09-2003, 10:36 AM
Originally posted by happycorepuppy
I have that same problem with my laptop. And it seriously isn't static. It's like a shock-shock-shock-shock-shock-... over and over till I move it. Just every once in a while, little stinging shocks. I'm going to get my laptop checked out this week so I'll check back with what I find out.
a.) Laptops have a pretty hefty amperage load (both internally and in their chargers), so shocks with a laptop are far more likely... but
b.) 'till I move it' sounds like there is a short somewhere. This could be potentially very bad for your computer. A lot of the components will burn out if the wrong voltage passes through them and with a short, pretty near anything is possible. The short might also be in the charger cable, etc. I'd be getting this looked at PDQ!
madkins007
04-09-2003, 10:52 AM
OK, with the Clie being recharged and you are getting a 'tingling' feeling with some body parts.
A natural allergy to nickel MIGHT be amplified (I would guess) if there is a small current passing through the nickel at that time, so this might be the culprit.
Some people are just more sensitive to voltage/amperage than others- it takes a smaller amount to pass through the skin than for most people. This might be your problem, especially if you experience this with other devices.
Your charger might be shorted or defective in some way passing too much current to the Clie. Excess current could severely damage the Clie so I'd get this looked at. If you know how to use a digital multimeter, you can check it with that. If the problem does not happen with other AC chargers you might use with your Clie, then this would be my prime suspect.
Your outlet might also be defective, either passing too much voltage or current to the charger, etc. A simple plug-in device can diagnose several outlet problems. (Changing outlets might not help because it might be a problem with your whole house.) Try the charger in a differnt house or building. If it goes away, then this is a likely cause.
MAYBE there is something wrong with the USB sync cable. Unplug that and see if the problem persists. If you are using a hub, try plugging the USB directly to the computer. If this works, then the hub was the problem and may be endangering all devices plugged into it.
Finally, you may be completing a circuit somehow. It is possible that there is a lot of leakage current coming from some source associated with your charger, that is using you to complete a path to ground. I am not sure the average multimeter can test this well, but try measuring amperage between a good reliable ground (like a cold water pipe) and the Clie's case, where you get buzzed.
If any of these seem to work, let us know and maybe we can provide some more specific assistance.
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